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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/15/2012 7:58:13 PM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/15/2012 9:58:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, not sure why it dried up here, for one it didn't seem to host much in the playing of it like the Blitz does. For awhile only negative comments scared up action, which turned off a lot of folks as well. I visit here every day, always have the internet/comp on, so you will see my name on! I fully support this series, and still do a lot of modding/correcting as I can. Most times I can answer tech problems, although I have no understanding of the C++ language, unfortunately. I have however done extensive digging into every file in the game, and understand most, so..fire away if you need help, maybe I can!!

Just getting into PBEM, this truly is where the game shines, you meet folks from everywhere, and are competing against an actual person, which makes every scenario a different experience every time you play it against someone!

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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/16/2012 2:49:25 AM   
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Hey, not sure why it dried up here, for one it didn't seem to host much in the playing of it like the Blitz does. For awhile only negative comments scared up action, which turned off a lot of folks as well. I visit here every day, always have the internet/comp on, so you will see my name on! I fully support this series, and still do a lot of modding/correcting as I can. Most times I can answer tech problems, although I have no understanding of the C++ language, unfortunately. I have however done extensive digging into every file in the game, and understand most, so..fire away if you need help, maybe I can!!

Just getting into PBEM, this truly is where the game shines, you meet folks from everywhere, and are competing against an actual person, which makes every scenario a different experience every time you play it against someone!


That is too bad. Matrix seems to be a great place, and there isn't any reason this could be a great place too.

I wish I could figure out how to really size these screens down. It takes massive screenshots. Maybe I can get them in my posts a different way that uploading. Host them some where, and then link it in the post or something.

Any who... Do you spend a lot of time with CS? I really enjoy the series.

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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/16/2012 10:32:20 AM   
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Hey, not sure why it dried up here, for one it didn't seem to host much in the playing of it like the Blitz does. For awhile only negative comments scared up action, which turned off a lot of folks as well. I visit here every day, always have the internet/comp on, so you will see my name on! I fully support this series, and still do a lot of modding/correcting as I can. Most times I can answer tech problems, although I have no understanding of the C++ language, unfortunately. I have however done extensive digging into every file in the game, and understand most, so..fire away if you need help, maybe I can!!

Just getting into PBEM, this truly is where the game shines, you meet folks from everywhere, and are competing against an actual person, which makes every scenario a different experience every time you play it against someone!


That is too bad. Matrix seems to be a great place, and there isn't any reason this could be a great place too.

I wish I could figure out how to really size these screens down. It takes massive screenshots. Maybe I can get them in my posts a different way that uploading. Host them some where, and then link it in the post or something.

Any who... Do you spend a lot of time with CS? I really enjoy the series.


It si a very good place, I've been with Matrix since about 1998 or so starting out converting Steel Lightning(a version of Steel Panthers 3), into SP:WAW, which was awesome as well!!

I use Photobucket to host screenies, it's free, and you can have multiple albums!

Of all the games I have, I spend all of my time anymore in some capacity or other in the CS!! I love this series, it's very easy to modify and plays well!!



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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/16/2012 6:04:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Marc just sent me the turn.

I have yet to see the replay, but I knew we would have combat. I left all of my front line tanks with enough APs to have a shot a piece during his phase.

He mentioned in his email that one T-34/41 destroyed to the loss of two 50mm AT guns. That SHOULD mean that AT unit only has one gun left. They usually have three. Should be elimnated during my turn.

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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/16/2012 7:58:03 PM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/16/2012 7:58:51 PM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/16/2012 8:57:26 PM   
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Hope this is big enough to see.





Graphics very reminiscent of the ____ General series. Cool.


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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/18/2012 2:29:13 AM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/18/2012 3:49:48 PM   
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So disappointed.


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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/18/2012 4:34:36 PM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/18/2012 9:27:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Marc licked me good this turn. Everything he fired AT wise, he hit. I, however, couldn't hit crap.

I will do my portion and send to Marc.

Basically trying to manuever around that Tiger, get behind them, and knock them out. Proceed to victory locations. Chose new scenario, start new AAR, and walah..





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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/19/2012 11:02:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the above screenshot, I moved my T34 behind the Tiger up and to the left, brought in the remaining 8 T34s you see in the opening. Shot once, destroyed 2 Tigers. Then assaulted from the left and right, and wiped out the last Tiger. Praying I don't run in to any more. He ruined my day. Moved the KV up onto the hill, was shot at, but no effect. Shot back at the AT Gun, destroying two. T34 shot as well, no effect. He has infantry all dug in in all of he trees...going to be impossible to dislodge without artillery and more inf than I have.

Turn to Marc.

Bloody turn.

Ill post a pic at home.

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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/23/2012 2:16:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Marc sent me the wrong file or something... he did mention me knocking out his Tigers. I hope he means Tigers as in his only Tigers. That would be wonderful.

Sorry for the slow pace.

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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/25/2012 3:07:05 AM   
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I have elimnated all AT guns that have fired the last few turns, I dont see any more on the map. I have only seen one more platoon of Panzer IV tanks....so I am going to be more aggressive and go for VP locations directly now as all he has left is infantry that is dug in well, but he can't mass them fast enough to assault the VP positions once I take them.

PRAYING he doesn't have anything laying in ambush for me. I do for him though...






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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/25/2012 3:11:25 AM   
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Marc did say on the phone tonight that he is nervous he can't do anything now...he didn't say one way or another when I asked him if he had tanks left. He said, I'll find out one way or another haha.




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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/25/2012 11:04:18 AM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/25/2012 2:30:03 PM   
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All the Tigers were knocked out? Damn. Must've been a blow for your opponent.


He never said one way or another. Doing so would reveal a lot of information in my opinion...I am still playing with caution, but I am being far more aggressive the closer we're getting to the end of the turns.

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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/25/2012 2:30:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		That platoon I knocked out only have three. Fairly easy to take on if you have a bunch of units.

Quantity has a quality all on its own.

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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/25/2012 2:31:17 PM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/25/2012 11:18:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Produced another turn for Marc. His turn was uneventful. His Panzer IVs showed up on the railroad cut...as expected. They fired once, I returned fire twice with my units I left in opp fire mode...he didn't do any damage. My first shot destroyed nothing. Second shot destroyed one, and he retreated...losing points to fire any more that turn. That is the beauty of of leavings units with enough AP to fire during your opponents turn. All of my tanks are like this unless there is NO WAY they can be fired upon during his turn. Inf still tying up his infantry in the forest, that could other wise be used to mass defend the victory locations. My T34s back around the main action fired and made infantry unit in the victory hext next to the RR retreat forward out into the open. My KV1 unit then moved in, and fired on the retreated Panzers from behind, destroying two and eliminating the unit. Seems pretty quit now, but I didn't take anymore victory hexes than that one. The T34s up north at the city discovered the artillery unit and it's carrier. Fired on the carrier once, and destroyed one. Didn't realize I could fire on the art unitl until later, but I want my tanks to have enough AP for Marc's turn. Still didn't move into the city hex..as these are only one tank platoon units..not two or three...they can easily be destroyed. Probably going to take the city on the last turn or so, so I don't have to hold out a lot in case he has reinforcements from the north or anything.

Took two screenshots, and saved them to edit and upload tonight. Progressing nicely. Currently at a "draw" according to victory if the scenario were to end today. I would be curious to see how this turned out in real life.. I am guessing the Russians steamrolled this delaying action by the Germans...but that is purely a guess.

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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/26/2012 3:19:35 PM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/26/2012 3:19:59 PM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/26/2012 3:22:43 PM   
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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/26/2012 3:23:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		The main action...as you can see the only threat that I can see currently to my tanks would be direct assaults from his infantry...every once in a while, with armor facing effects, you can fire on a tank from behind, and knock it out...especially if it is in the open.




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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 10/29/2012 10:56:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		No turn from Marc yet... I have a board meeting..so, hopefully he sends me one so I can do my portion tonight.



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RE: Crickets and Echoes - 11/2/2012 8:16:03 PM   
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I just sent Marc the last turn...I own all of the victory hexes, and I have been shooting at all of his infantry units to try and distrupt them so they will not be allowed to assault. Numerous inf units can easily overtake a tank. I ran into his Tigers east of the city. My ambush didn't work... he went through my T34s like they were nothing. I still think the city will hold out. I might lose one VP hex, as he is assaulting with engineers, a leader, and inf unit against a unit of T34s...

That should wrap it up. Most likely a Major Victory for the Allies according to the victory details.



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RE: Game over - Minor Victory - 11/7/2012 3:14:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		All she wrote. I really started rolling once I got my tanks out into the open and began assaulting positions. That has to be a pretty hard scenario for the Germans.

Many Soviet tanks vs not very many German tanks and AT guns..

Well played Marc. He made me nervous when his tanks showed up and I made the poor initial moves misjudging the number of turns by 2x too many.

On to our Rising Sun scenario - Burma Railway with me as the British. He has sent me the firs turn.

Marc is free to read this as I will read his I am guessing.






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RE: Game over - Minor Victory - 11/7/2012 10:37:29 AM   
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RE: Game over - Minor Victory - 12/20/2012 3:19:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you sir. Marc and I planned to always have a CS game going between us, however he no longer has access to the internet at the moment, so our game "Burma Railway" is on hold after the initial turn.

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