SqzMyLemon
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ORIGINAL: Puhis
PDU off is not as big disadvantage for Japan than some players might think.
I honestly can't comment on late game affects of PDU off, but I know that I'm outclassed and in trouble by late 42 and early 43. In scenario 1, you have a total of 85 Ki-44 Tojo IIa's for the entire Pacific. The bulk of your fighters remain Ki-27 Nate's, A6M3a Zero's and Ki-43 IIa Oscar's. Faced against P-38's, Hurricanes, P-40K's and the Allied heavy bomber arsenal you simply can't put up the numbers to contest the air. Rotate Oscar's out of the line and use them for training? With what? Nate's?
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ORIGINAL: LoBaron
C´mon Puhis, I don´t know how intense your PBEMs are, but I guarantee you that PDU off practically removes any chance of the Japanese
player to meet the Allied airforce on at least roughly equal terms beyond Spring ´43 when the US production lines switch up a gear. And it
reduces the superiority before ´43.
It is a simple numbers game. Decided by how many late generation fighters both sides can get into the air at once on all relevant frontlines,
and what quality the bombers are. Also you are forced to use valuable HI for producing types you neither want nor can effectively fight with.
I agree on historical accuracy, and as I said, I want to play such a PBEM as well some time in the future, but it is a _HUGE_ disadvantage for the Japanese.
Having played PDU off until March of 43 in a scenario 1 game as Japan, I have to agree with LoBaron. Maybe the late game when the Frank's are available and a large number of Japanese air units can convert to them the numbers are there. Otherwise, you'll never be able to mass enough better fighters to put a dent in the Allied air juggernaut. As LoBaron says, it's a numbers game and PDU off ensures the Japanese still have to rely on masses of inferior aircraft, because the better planes are too limited in number to make a difference. For the Allies, who cares, most of their aircraft during late 42 and 43 already outclass the best Japan can throw at them, and in greater numbers. I'll take 250 P-40K's supported by Hurricanes and P-38's over 85 Tojo's any day.
That's my experience in the PDU off game I played. Others may have a different experience, but a good Allied player that masses his airpower will overwhelm whatever Japan can throw at them in PDU off simply because the numbers of better airframes just aren't there for Japan.
Another thing about PDF off which I think a lot of players forget, is the inflexibility. You CAN'T downgrade air units to older models, you can only upgrade moving forward. For Japan, this means unless you choose to not upgrade certain units to newer models, there is ZERO point in producing stockpiles of 1942 aircraft and some early 43 models. You'll either willingly choose to play the game with inferior aircraft or never be able to utilize the pools if you decide to upgrade.
Some like PDU off and I'll give them their due. I personally hate it and will never play another game with PDU off. It really comes down to personal preference and what you want out of the game. You want historic, play PDU off. You want to customize your air units to suit your play style, PDU on is the way to go.
Just my personal opinion based on my experience playing PDU off.
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