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RE: Alaska - 11/2/2012 1:06:16 AM   
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Not much has changed in the south pacific or australia. He has a level 6 airbase at Lunga now which controls the area, but with the bulk of his naval air playing hopscotch off of Alaska I would say my line is very very safe. He isn't coming south anytime soon.

The air war has begun to heat up over Burma as he has introduced Tojos into the battle. Happy to see him finally cap some of his cities. Less happy to see Tojos. My hurricanes will pay a price for fighting them. I may back of the sweeps and go back to night bombing with my Blens. I want to attrit him here, but I am unwilling to do it if it cost me too heavy. Too early for that just now.

China remains a truck wreck. I have had some success running units around in his rear but overall the front lines haven't changed from 2 months ago.

He is using Helens to beat the hell out of my ground units. I only now have begun to test the skies over china with my meager Chinese air...

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Numbers - 11/2/2012 1:21:01 AM   
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Some numbers to chew on.

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This screen makes me a sad panda. I'm am in facted getting crushed.

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This one makes me happier, I have lost no major warships since that stupid battle off Lunga. Patience is the key, and I lack it.

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This would be all his warship losses to date. He has lost "just" 97 ships overall. Not good.

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Is it a bad thing that half of my aces are dutch?

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9 months till may huh...man that's a lifetime.

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RE: Alaska - 11/2/2012 1:21:50 AM   
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Just started reading this and am now subscribed Nice AAR

I'm not the best Allied player but have played some handy JFBs and would comment thus far:

Alaska - what on earth are the Japanese doing? Makes no sense to me. This is a long war and it seems your opponent just wants to play with his toys whilst he can, he will regret this invasion.

China - if you're holding him around Changsha and Sian you're doing a good job

Oz - don't rush troops up North too quickly - I did once and then he landed south of me and cut everything off.

DEI - have these been totally taken yet?

Burma - ditto - if not then his war machine will come to a shuddering halt very soon

New Caledonia and area - think you are doing a good job here.

He can't be everywhere at once. You will start to see masses of good troops, aircraft, ships coming online next year. Don't panic. The Japs have overextended themselves and you will bring the war to an end well within the time limit.

One question I forgot to ask or haven't noticed - Scen 1 or Scen 2? Makes a big difference

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RE: Alaska - 11/2/2012 1:39:50 AM   
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Hello and welcome aboard

I'm not the best Allied player but have played some handy JFBs and would comment thus far:

I'm a terrible player always have been. Yet for some reason I love this dumb game and keep trying. I have surrendered more often then I care to remember.

Alaska - what on earth are the Japanese doing? Makes no sense to me. This is a long war and it seems your opponent just wants to play with his toys whilst he can, he will regret this invasion.


I honestly didn't see this one coming. I have toyed with the area there as the Japanese but this has been a full on invasion supported by KB. I am throwing what I can at him but as most of my combat strength was or is heading towards the south pacific it's not much. I'm hopefully he will get tired of the area before winter...which is coming.

China - if you're holding him around Changsha and Sian you're doing a good job

So far, but only because he stopped pushing. I almost called it a game early as he just swept the Chinese aside like they weren't there. Then. He stopped.

Oz - don't rush troops up North too quickly - I did once and then he landed south of me and cut everything off.

I agree. And I haven't I have quite a few Aussie brigades and at least one US combat division in the area now...but not much happening other then me occasionally popping his troop ships at Port Hedland with the RN.

DEI - have these been totally taken yet?

Oh yes, long since his.

Burma - ditto - if not then his war machine will come to a shuddering halt very soon

Burma is all but his but he shows no sign of moving north from the country or east into china. Up until the last couple of days I had not seen a single fighter other then what he had based at Rangoon.

New Caledonia and area - think you are doing a good job here.

Thanks, it's pretty solid now. He stopped even trying fighter sweeps over Luginville. Was getting too costly for him. I need to decide what my next step in the area is, I was going to hit Lunga with B17s but they are busy over Australia now. I will probably stay pat for a long while here.

One question I forgot to ask or haven't noticed - Scen 1 or Scen 2? Makes a big difference

As I recall we are scen 2...but its been a few weeks since we started.


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RE: Alaska - 11/2/2012 2:41:07 AM   
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Where did you lose so many ground troops? 12849 army loss points?

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RE: Alaska - 11/2/2012 4:30:15 AM   
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Where did you lose so many ground troops? 12849 army loss points?



china.

Completely inexperienced on the allied side of things there...the few games I played there before...it was more realistic then this game in terms of the fighting.

It's the reason I almost surrendered a couple weeks ago, never seen a blitzkrieg campaign in china quite like the one he is running...

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RE: Alaska - 11/2/2012 9:16:20 AM   
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So I am seriously thinking going to ground in this game. Completely. Drawing my troops as far back as I can while maintaining my rob superhighway in the pacific...not letting him overrun China completely and keeping as much of Australia as I can. Basically just avoid confrontation.

Australia is a mess...I have already begun the process there. My troops are falling back from Daly. He controls the air for now because my fighters don't have the legs to protect my ground troops. Until they do. It's his.

He controls Alaska for now. He obviously can't hang on to that. KB will leave eventually and when it does, while it won't be a cake walk it will fall. That is a matter of time and patience. I have both.

Nothing is happening in Burma. I mean nothing. I have stopped the sweeps and the night bombing campaign...such that it was. I don't need to attrit here sooner then later I will have massive amounts of air...and he won't. Frankly, the lines are fine where they are drawn till 43 (Ill get pics up tomorrow sometime). He obviously is satisfied with his gains there.

China...the ongoing disaster. This really is my fault. I have long had little interest in china. WHich was fine against most opponents. Taking China is central to his strategy and I have paid for my indifference. That being said he really isn't doing much more then bug killing there anymore. I run the occasional unit out behind his lines. Cause some mischief and he swats them. Yeah he is bombing the hell out of my Chinese troops here and there...but honestly that is just pilot training to him.

I have looked over my order of battle (spent a good 2 hours tonite just checking things out) and I am woefully under trained when it comes to pilots. It's scary how bad my squadrons are. I have some decent ones here and there but no where the amount I need. Further the quality of my aircraft is garbage. He has Tojos on the board in bulk already...in august 42. He is making runs over China with at least 100 or more helens. I simply cannot stand up to this level of crushing in the air and hope to do much more then offer my pilots as targets.

My naval forces have done okay for the last 4 months, but that's mostly me avoiding him every chance I get. He clipped about 10 ships tied to the pier in Alaska recently but beyond that he hasnt really done much navy wise except when Im trying to sneak something past him.

I really am starting to see the wisdom of just retreating and hiding until 43. Kind of sucks as a strategy though spending a year ducking, but with a player like CV2 I really don't see much else I can do. The guy is scary good. I guess being a beta tester will do that for you. He plays the game..like its a game.

The massive amount of divisions he has floating around in scenario two really tosses this mod out of balance, at least how he is using them. If we were playing for points this game would be over soon.

At any rate...Im mulling that now...going to ground..running and hiding everywhere...seems like really the only strategy left.

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RE: Alaska - 11/2/2012 8:15:06 PM   
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Hiding is what you mainly do as the Allies early in the game, and when you have lost several CVs you have to do it a bit longer .... BUT ..... that does not mean hiding everywhere and at all times. You have significant surface assets and subs that can inflict damage if you use them at the right place and time. The keys are:
Search and recon extensively so you know where his major land/air/naval units are
Use pickets where search is weak
Use sub recon of particular small harbours where there are no mines
Be more aggressive when you know where Netties, KB and LKB are not
Move your 4E bombers around and hit weakly CAPped bases/ports
Move your fighters around to sometimes CAP a base being hit frequently by bombers. Even if escorted, the CAP usually does well against the escorts and in sufficient numbers will take down some bombers too.
Rotate units that have been worn down in battle to the rear for recuperation and bring in fresh units. This is necessary in China.

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RE: Alaska - 11/4/2012 1:39:27 AM   
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A quick update as our game enters september.

Alaska.

I really don't get my opponent here. He curb stomped my forces here. Wasn't close. Then...he withdrawals. Now he beat up some ships, shot down a few planes and of course bayoneted all the prisoners he took in Alaska. But it did cost him. At least two Cruisers (turned out Mogami didn't sink as I discovered when my bombers put a couple 500 lbers into her moored at Kodiak) ate torpedoes and when I did take down his pilots...well they don't return. And three or more divisions got beat up, particularly at Kodiak. So he goes in takes Alaska, including Kodiak. Then evacuates. I simply don't get that. I assumed it wasn't much more then a raid, but it was a HUGE raid...

Dutch Harbor fell this turn, nome a few turns earlier.

I now have marines on the march as I landed them at Whittier Seward and they are moving to Anchorage, should be there soon. I expected to not retake Alaska until sometime next year due to winter. So I'm more then surprised he left nothing to defend the area given. Either way, there are no Japanese troops to be found here or at Kodiak which I will retake soon enough.

South Pacific.

He has taken to sending Nells to hit Luginville at night. I have a fragment of Wildcats who are chasing them around so they aren't having much effect.

Australia.

I moved my troops south, hoping he would keep bombing them. He did and my fighters chewed up a half a nell squadron. Yummy. He has been making fighter sweeps now and I intend to rotate my squadrons (3) in and out to keep them fresh and hopefully kill japanese pilots. So far he is cooperating though he is shooting more of my planes down then I am us his, but every dead enemy pilot is a good thing.

Burma.

Nadda. I have started moving my RAF bombers to China.

China.

I have begun the retreat to the core of china as I said. It surprised him I think. He continues to hit my troops with oogles of Helens, but since he doesn't appear to have much in the way of fighters in the area I have moved the RAF in and begun to bomb him outside Sian. Ill try to get some mappage of the area up tonite or tomorrow.

Indian Ocean. My remaining two British Carriers are now at Diego Garcia with the rest of the Royal Navy. I am considering a landing at the Cocos Islands. With most of his naval air a long long away. It would be nice to grab the place to use as an earlier warning area given my signint keeps telling me he plans to land at Diego Garcia.

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RE: Alaska - 11/4/2012 2:14:53 AM   
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The only rationale I can think of for his actions in Alaska is that he was trying to provoke a carrier battle. You didn't bite so he left.

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RE: Alaska - 11/4/2012 3:00:34 AM   
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The only rationale I can think of for his actions in Alaska is that he was trying to provoke a carrier battle. You didn't bite so he left.

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The only rationale I can think of for his actions in Alaska is that he was trying to provoke a carrier battle. You didn't bite so he left.


Im sure that's what was it. No way I was doing that and it makes sense at first I wasn't seeing many zeros...then when I started taking pokes with my avengers KB shows up and bombs the airfields out of existance. He was trying to catch me being my usual rash self.

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Alaska - 11/5/2012 7:49:46 AM   
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It's time for more maps

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As you can see by this simple map of Alaska...there are no CV2 Japanese troops to be found pretty much anywhere. I have begun to slowly retake everything he rolled over. Cold Bay fell this turn to airborne troops. According to recon Dutch Harbor is wide open. About the only activity I have found in this region is Adak. And I have plans for Adak...

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South Pacific - 11/5/2012 8:01:36 AM   
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And then there is the jewel of my defenses...

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From Luginville to Koumac to Noumea and east to Nadi and Suva I have well developed bases just chalked full of combat troops. At this point I would welcome an invasion from CV2. While he could probably sweep in and take these islands. My defenses are now to the point where he would pay a bloody price for it.

I doubt very seriously he will ever move south. He has a very limited amount of air at his forward base in Lunga. And while Im sure he is building up the bases northwest of it...I just don't see him coming south. Too risky.

I do have a secret project in this area that is close to be launched. We will see how it goes.

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Australia - 11/5/2012 8:19:20 AM   
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And the fight down under continues.

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For a while we were fighting over the airspace above my ground troops. I think he got tired of that or realized that even though he was dominating my green pilots he was still losing pilots. I also had moved my troops south far enough to keep air cover over them so he wasn't getting free shots with his bombers. Well he stopped sending out his zero sweeps in the last week or so.

I continued to pound his troops from the air until he finally moved them to darwin and out of my bomber range. I know he has a good size airfield there but I couldn't honestly tell you how much air power is there currently.

I have finally begun to deploy P 38s to the area..."if" and this is a big if, I can keep Tennant Creek supplied (and everyone was right that is a bitch to do) then I can provide air cover as my troops move north once again to take Daly Waters. My hope is that he will respond and move south again and into bomber range. If he doesnt then I move north to Katherine. Could get fun.

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China - 11/5/2012 9:04:26 AM   
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And lastly the mess that is China as we enter October.

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The lines have slightly shifted but that was mostly due to me pulling out of the Changsha area. Part of the whole going to ground and keeping my combat strength together until I can get to 43. And I will get to 43. He is crushing the airfield at Chungking. I had slide the RAF in to hit his troops. I think he didnt like that and for about a week I saw 100 plus bomber raids by his helens. He is now maintaining the destruction there with 50 plus raids. Was fun while it lasted.

He has shown no signs of moving further in the north. He sent a probe to Lanchow which I destroyed. In the South he is pushing hard but I am prepared to keep the line right where it is as I have about 300 thousand troops in the neighborhood. We will see how it goes, hopefully I can slog it out with him until he gets bored.

Burma remains sleepy phoney war silent.

I had been planning to hit the Cocos. I had a sub keeping and eye on the place. He now has a surface group with Chitose and a Battleship there. A bit of a surprise but I have the FAA about 3 days sailing time from there. Maybe I can give him a bit of a surprise.

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Australia - 11/6/2012 12:12:24 AM   
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uh oh.

This will not end well.

Right now it looks like "just" a carrier raid. But I have been getting sigint about a possible south Australian landing. Further he has an armored car group running around the outback (my bombers have been hitting it).

It's that group to the north of the carriers that has me worried.

The Royal navy has reformed and is a solid 4 days away and even then it's just one CV and CVL. No match for him if he has even 1 fleet carrier in this group.

Things are about to be explosive off Perth.

That being said I did leave the Formidible's FAA group at Geraldton. And I have a smattering of various fighters and bombers scattered between Geraldton and Perth. Maybe I will "finally" have some luck and put a bomb into one of his carriers or better still a torpedo from one of the several subs operating off the west coast of Australia.

Man I could use it.

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RE: Australia - 11/6/2012 2:01:40 AM   
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oh for ****'s sake.

This is going to be a first class rant. Sorry, I am beyond frustrated...I tend to not get ranty in my gaming forums but damn.

Here's the deal. The entire Japanese navy went from Alaska to Australia in around a month.

The entire navy.

The fuel costs alone must be out of this world.

yet he has fuel to burn. In a decade of playing the Japanese I have ever once had "fuel to burn" like this.

I enjoy a good game and lord knows I never expect to win, because I never have.

But I am feeling so gamed at this point Im not even sure what to do about it.

Tell me this...and it's a serious question,...perhaps I have been playing a straight game all these years and I just don't think to do things like he does.

He is using the Mavis L as a paratrooper transport.

Is it me or is that just outside the bounds of reality? Again, I don't really need to play a "realistic" game persay...but sitting here watching ever rule pushed to it's extreme has really got me frustrated.

I'm trying to soldier on because I keep think the good part starts for the allies sooner or later.

but when is sooner?

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RE: Australia - 11/6/2012 3:19:12 AM   
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grrrr okay, so im over that now...this damn game can be wildly frustrating. I think it's because we put so much time into each turn.

okay so here i sit in october and yet more setbacks. Western Australia is his. period. That being said, he won't stay long. he never does. Its another hit and run. The side part of his raid was he put down about 20 more transport ships (and one destroyer) and that hurt a bit but not as much as it could have. On an upnote he is paying one hell of a price for this landing the disrupted troops number in the thousands. And the guns at Perth did hit him hard. He hit perth with a small amount of troops and it's not likely to fall soon. He buried Geraldton with troops...I have high hopes he marches south with them...because I have 2 brigades of australian troops as well as a pair of armored units north of him. I have a huge (level 5 or 6) airbase at Alice Springs...filled with B17s. I doubt seriously he comes west. But if he does it will hurt him. I have also canceled my planned offensive north. Im hedging on this...because there just isn't any way he has this many divisions to toss around. So I doubt if he has much strength left at Darwin...but by that same token if he does come east...those troops are dead with only one avenue of retreat...so Im turn them all south to get on the railroads.

ugly ugly game.

I completely understand why allied players vanish now. It's tough to get your teeth kicked in for a year before you can begin to have any fun. Fortunetly we play at such a pace (we did a game month over the weekend) that it will probably be a couple weeks before we reach 43 and then I can finally explore the fun side of this game as the allies.



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RE: Australia - 11/6/2012 4:49:07 AM   
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Okay, I'm sitting here trying to decide what to do with the RN. When I thought it was a single carrier raid of perth I was going to try to catch him. Now Im back tracking and thinking about seriously hitting coco again. I "know" where his fleet is. I bet I could get in and out before he can redirect and hit me.

I also have been shooting up his PBs (and akls) here and there off of lunga. Lost in last turn's debauchery was another successful run. My next move is a bombardment group to hit his level 8 airfield.


Most of the American navy is in san francisco at the moment refitting. It's probably what kept me from being rash and getting my carriers sunk off Australia when I saw him moving to hit perth. I should have the bulk of my fleet (3 CVs, 2 CVEs, 7 Battleships and tons of cruisers and destroyers) ready to go in about two weeks. Their destination is Auckland and then I will figure what to do with them from there.

My subs are not having much success, I may have to rethink their deployment.

back to mulling this map.

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RE: Australia - 11/6/2012 6:48:57 AM   
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I completely understand why allied players vanish now. It's tough to get your teeth kicked in for a year before you can begin to have any fun. Fortunetly we play at such a pace (we did a game month over the weekend) that it will probably be a couple weeks before we reach 43 and then I can finally explore the fun side of this game as the allies.



Why so, where do they vanish? There are still more people looking for Japanese opponent than Allied in the Opponent Wanted section.

TBH the Japanese side IS harder to play, depending on scenario, game settings and house rules. Every single naval loss hurts Japan, and even in air, IJNAF starts with literally zero experienced fighter pilots in the pool(well, just like the Allies). Scenario 2 does help the Japanese and depending on your house rules and game settings, Japan can R&D planes and produce the good ones so much that it can stay with the Allies well into 1943, even early 1944. But not on the ground or at sea.

Remember that its still early in the game and the war will be a long one. If you're lucky your opponent will think that his victory streak will never end, and you'll get to bleed his nose HARD somewhere. Just keep your CVs alive! The Allies can, quite literally, lose every ship they have and get in 1941 and first half of 1942 and still win one hand tied behind.

I would seriously reconsider doing anything with your BBs and CVs for now. "Keep them secret. Keep them safe!" They might not achieve victories from East Coast, but you WILL make your opponent think about their location. He WILL have to prepare to meet them everywhere he is, or take the risk. The more risks he takes the easier it will be to surprise him pants down WHEN you decide to do just that. Knowing that the F6F and F4U, once you get them, WILL wipe the floor with Ki-44 and A6M could help you through the hard times.

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RE: Australia - 11/6/2012 6:50:36 AM   
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If he has been burning tons of fuel, perhaps the Royal Navy should be used to raid across Sumatra into Palembang. Knocking off a half dozen tankers while he is out adventuring would spoil his fun! You could also hit the oil fields themselves. Take only your 30 kt ships so you can get outta Dodge afterwards.

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Japan and the East China Sea - 11/6/2012 8:02:49 AM   
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It occurs to me that I am doing a piss poor job managing my submarines. Mostly because he was able to move what appears to be the entire KB from the shores of Alaska (where I know there were two maybe three fleet carriers) to Perth in around a month...without me noticing until he was well on his way. Now he had to stop and rearm along the way and between Alaska and Perth..there is this tiny island called Japan.

here are my usual patrol zones.

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And the East China Sea

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Now it's just not his warships that I am not seeing.

Its "any" shipping whatsoever. No Tankers, No supply, and the rare ASW ship that comes out to challenge my submarines.

Am I setting up in the right spot?

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RE: Australia - 11/6/2012 8:07:55 AM   
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If he has been burning tons of fuel, perhaps the Royal Navy should be used to raid across Sumatra into Palembang. Knocking off a half dozen tankers while he is out adventuring would spoil his fun! You could also hit the oil fields themselves. Take only your 30 kt ships so you can get outta Dodge afterwards.



Sadly the RN is down to a carrier and a half due to withdrawals. I'm not sure how much damage they could cause there.

Yeah, I don't get where all this fuel is coming from honestly. I know with my Japanese games...the very idea of moving the entire fleet halfway around the world in a month. Ouch.

A big problem is I am just not sinking his shipping with my subs. The big joke off alaska was my subs were lining up his warships (including one or two carriers) and smack...dud. I know this begins to improve in January and thats just 3 months away...but I need some success here.

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RE: Australia - 11/6/2012 8:10:54 AM   
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I completely understand why allied players vanish now. It's tough to get your teeth kicked in for a year before you can begin to have any fun. Fortunetly we play at such a pace (we did a game month over the weekend) that it will probably be a couple weeks before we reach 43 and then I can finally explore the fun side of this game as the allies.



Why so, where do they vanish? There are still more people looking for Japanese opponent than Allied in the Opponent Wanted section.




I actually never much liked playing the Japanese. Hurts my head with all the numbers (part of the reason I suck at the game :P) but found if I wanted a game EVERYBODY wants to be the allies. Very few prefer the japanese, thus the opponent wanted section. So anytime I wanted a new game, I happily volunteered to be the Japanese. It's a lot to do with my absolute inexperience with the allies...In the (lord) 40 plus games I have played in the decade I have been at it..I probably have gotten to play the allies 5 or 6 times and only 1 of those games (my memory is hazy) ever got to 43.

I'm frankly very very excited that I am almost to 43. It's the promised land for me and fueling some of my frustration right now because I'm worried I wont have much left to defend.

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South Pacific - 11/6/2012 8:18:48 AM   
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I had most of my S boats here as well as my share of fleet boats until recently.

I have been running them to Sydney for upgrades. I was hitting nothing and I mean nothing with my subs. It was a rare day when they would sight anything.

I have finally reduced my sub zones here and begun to patrol the various islands north east of Lunga. He has built some significant airbases (Kasaie and Naru) on some of them and he has to be running supplies to them.

It's a major problem if I can't start whittling his shipping down. He has way too much now and is running amok.

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RE: South Pacific - 11/6/2012 8:46:32 AM   
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By the way about half of his carriers are now moving east across the Great Australian Bight under Australia (well south of it). He is popping transports fleeing from him. If he continues east (he is about 15 hexes away from Port Augusta) he will kill about 40 fully laden transports who just weighed anchor and are attempting to get the hell out of dodge. The fighters I have there just arrived and will be of little use as they unpack from the rail cars.

On a note of entertainment, when I realized he was headed to "raid" Perth with his CVEs I sent a small surface group there to help the destroyers and smaller vessels stave off what I thought was coming.

Led by the Cruiser Chicago this 3 ship surface group is now in position just west of Albany to have a go at a small baby carrier group off of Busselton. He no doubt sees me but it will be interesting to see if the full speed dash I made at his shipping off Perth pays off with a couple of banged up transports before the sun comes up and he puts my cruiser down.

Geraldton did fall. But my troops got out and are retreating across the outback much as my troops from Broome did to the west coast....Ironically they are getting ready to retreat west..again.

I also crushed the paratroopers on the rail line at Cunderlane as I just happen to be moving a aussie brigade there hoping to catch that armored unit. Needless to say they are still headed west hoping to reopen the rail line.

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RE: South Pacific - 11/6/2012 12:25:56 PM   
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Sub Patrols - I would send some to be off Hong Kong. Since he has pushed you back in China, he can drop off his Oil/Fuel and Resources at this base and allow the roads/rails to move it to at least Shanghai and hopefully to Korea (or Port Arthur) before going on ships to Japan. If he isn't spotted there, then he is going though the Philippine Archipelago to get stuff to Japan vs around Formosa.

I'm near the end of 43 as Japan (farthest I've ever been as Japan) and I HATE those damn P-47s. If I come out on the wrong end of 3:1 in A2A I'm happy. Attrition is the way here. They are great in the sweep role. Second for me is the Corsairs in sweeps and then the P-38s.

What are your plans for your three plus Marine divisions?? They are your elite troops and need to be used to plan aggressively.

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RE: South Pacific - 11/6/2012 4:00:14 PM   
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Looking at your sub patrol distribution around Japan, there are a couple of openings he could be exploiting: the straight path into Nagasaki from the west and the shallow water path to Tokyo Bay.
What is the DL of your subs? If he knows where they are he can route around them or use air patrols to make your subs dive so that they cannot see convoys passing through the hex. I monitor the DL every turn and if the sub is seen at all, I move it several hexes and return in 3 - 4 days.

I think Michael hit the biggest factor: the Japanese can ship a lot of oil overland and then have the short hop from Fusan to N. Japan to finish the delivery. The Strait of Tsushima is mined and guarded by CD guns so the only good approach for now is the opening next to Wakkanai on NE Hokkaido, but that is a big detour that takes a lot of fuel. You will need a western Aleutians base to exploit that.

Have your subs had their radar upgrades yet? That should make a big difference to nighttime intercepts.

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RE: South Pacific - 11/6/2012 4:06:43 PM   
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My opinion: your sub routes around the Home Islands and Formosa straits are too close to his likely aerial surveillance. If you're a found submarine, you're a liability.

Back 'em off several hexes along likely ingress / egress lines.

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RE: South Pacific - 11/6/2012 5:03:28 PM   
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In my opinion your sub patrol zones are too short. This causes a couple of problems. One is that the detection level on the subs can become so high that they are easily avoided. Another is that with such a short patrol zone - which appears to be across the expected shipping lane - your chance of missing the enemy TFs is increased.

What I like are long patrol zones along the expected route of the enemy TFs. I believe that this increases my chance of finding his shipping while at the same time keeping the DL low on my subs. It seems to be working: as of Jan 10, 1944 the sunken ships list shows 184 Japanese vessels that have succumbed to my subs. Yes, that number isn't entirely correct - but my guess is that it is a little high on combat ships and low on merchant ships.

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