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ORIGINAL: aphrochine
Regarding Retirement Allowed, this can be a bad idea if the direct line between your destination and home port goes through enemy water. Like between Pearl Harbor and Sydney. You'll find your allied ships sailing past Japanese occupied Guadalcanal, and through Marshals.

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Hello!

OK, I just checked, and can't find this in the manual, at least, not by doing key word search for the involved terms.

It's my understanding that "Allow Retirement" basically means when a TF finishes it's mission, it'll go home. Correct?

What if, though, the Destination Hex is a port, and Allow Disband is set? Will the TF "retire" into its current port? Or, do I have to set the Home port to the destination port to get that to happen?

Also, if the TF is a transport, but you don't wish for it to actually carry anything, will it leave port immediately if you do not attempt to load it, or will it wait around? (I think I'm seeing that they eventually leave--it could be they are low on OPS, so they don't go right away, but would if they had the OPS.)

I'm trying to evacuate the Philippines, and I'm not recalling what the proper way to do that would be.

Thank you!

Chad S.

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ORIGINAL: ChadS

OK, I've seen this one a couple of times, but haven't figured it out yet--Oz? I don't guess that's in Kansas, is it?

Oz = Australia, a wonderful place to visit if you are single, American, and male.

Something that came up on CombatReporter last night indicated that I was running low on oil for Heavy Industry. But, I was under the impression that Allies don't really need to worry about oil and resources. Is there any point in moving these around, and if so, where should they get moved to?

I've been following Sardaukar's newbie AAR, and that's been a fantastic help, but I'm not entirely clear about where smart places are to stockpile supplies and fuel, other than Suva and Pearl. I'm assuming there's somewhere in Australia that is commonly used. Are there other natural distribution centers?

There are many threads devoted to Allied logistics. I'd do some poking and some experimenting. You'll get lots of POVs if you ask here and all will have pros and cons. Me, I wouldn't put a can of corn in Suva let alone make it a major log base. Other opinions differ.

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Well...Suva is basically one of the very few places that can hold infinite amount supplies & fuel when build up. New Caledonia of course too, but then it's same as taking it all the way to Sydney anyway. PagoPago might work too. Of course you need to heavily garrison those places anyway against invasion.

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ORIGINAL: LoBaron

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Well...Suva is basically one of the very few places that can hold infinite amount supplies & fuel when build up. New Caledonia of course too, but then it's same as taking it all the way to Sydney anyway. PagoPago might work too. Of course you need to heavily garrison those places anyway against invasion.

Sardaukar, I disagree here.

In my opinion Suva is actually one of the worst possible positions for a staging post as it usually is on the Japanese nice-to-have list, exactly because of its
obvious role.

As aphrochine said, the area ia full of bases which can be built up for the job, the most obvious one (and also chosen in my last PBEM) is Vavau. Bigger harbour than Suva
if you build it up, in case you need to. But it is by far not the only one: Lifuka, Tongatapu, and further south a few places in the Cook Islands, last but not
least, Tahiti, if you really have to deviate far South because of a Japanese attack.

I reccommend building up an efficient and a alternate route, where the alternate can be used in case the efficient one is threatened. When the fronts stabilize the routes
obviousely move a bit further North, maybe along the Phoenix/Ellis Islands and later the Gilberts and Marshalls, if this is still neccesary by then.

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ORIGINAL: LoBaron

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Well...Suva is basically one of the very few places that can hold infinite amount supplies & fuel when build up. New Caledonia of course too, but then it's same as taking it all the way to Sydney anyway. PagoPago might work too. Of course you need to heavily garrison those places anyway against invasion.

Sardaukar, I disagree here.

In my opinion Suva is actually one of the worst possible positions for a staging post as it usually is on the Japanese nice-to-have list, exactly because of its
obvious role.

As aphrochine said, the area ia full of bases which can be built up for the job, the most obvious one (and also chosen in my last PBEM) is Vavau. Bigger harbour than Suva
if you build it up, in case you need to. But it is by far not the only one: Lifuka, Tongatapu, and further south a few places in the Cook Islands, last but not
least, Tahiti, if you really have to deviate far South because of a Japanese attack.

I reccommend building up an efficient and a alternate route, where the alternate can be used in case the efficient one is threatened. When the fronts stabilize the routes
obviousely move a bit further North, maybe along the Phoenix/Ellis Islands and later the Gilberts and Marshalls, if this is still neccesary by then.

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

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ORIGINAL: LoBaron

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Well...Suva is basically one of the very few places that can hold infinite amount supplies & fuel when build up. New Caledonia of course too, but then it's same as taking it all the way to Sydney anyway. PagoPago might work too. Of course you need to heavily garrison those places anyway against invasion.

Sardaukar, I disagree here.

In my opinion Suva is actually one of the worst possible positions for a staging post as it usually is on the Japanese nice-to-have list, exactly because of its
obvious role.

As aphrochine said, the area ia full of bases which can be built up for the job, the most obvious one (and also chosen in my last PBEM) is Vavau. Bigger harbour than Suva
if you build it up, in case you need to. But it is by far not the only one: Lifuka, Tongatapu, and further south a few places in the Cook Islands, last but not
least, Tahiti, if you really have to deviate far South because of a Japanese attack.

I reccommend building up an efficient and a alternate route, where the alternate can be used in case the efficient one is threatened. When the fronts stabilize the routes
obviousely move a bit further North, maybe along the Phoenix/Ellis Islands and later the Gilberts and Marshalls, if this is still neccesary by then.

Well..you need base that can be build to 10 combined (airfield and port combined, 5+5 as average) to make it really viable supply hub. Of course Suva is high on IJ list for obvious reasons, and similarly Allies should make big effort to retain it.

There are alternatives, as you and others have stated, and they work well too. Just that losing Suva & New Caledonia forces Allies to have fairly limited "Central Pacific strategy". Suva is both excellent supply dump and staging area for future advance.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: ChadS

OK, I've seen this one a couple of times, but haven't figured it out yet--Oz? I don't guess that's in Kansas, is it?

Oz = Australia, a wonderful place to visit if you are single, American, and male.

Something that came up on CombatReporter last night indicated that I was running low on oil for Heavy Industry. But, I was under the impression that Allies don't really need to worry about oil and resources. Is there any point in moving these around, and if so, where should they get moved to?

I've been following Sardaukar's newbie AAR, and that's been a fantastic help, but I'm not entirely clear about where smart places are to stockpile supplies and fuel, other than Suva and Pearl. I'm assuming there's somewhere in Australia that is commonly used. Are there other natural distribution centers?

There are many threads devoted to Allied logistics. I'd do some poking and some experimenting. You'll get lots of POVs if you ask here and all will have pros and cons. Me, I wouldn't put a can of corn in Suva let alone make it a major log base. Other opinions differ.

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ORIGINAL: ChadS
What kind of timeframe does it take to start to get all the supply lines worked out so you start to prosecute the war? Should things be falling into place by, say, mid-1942? I'm finding that just sorting the tankers and AKs is a full-time job for the first several weeks.