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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/3/2012 10:44:25 PM   
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Ok so it might depend on whether one eyed jacks plans to shock .. or just starve them out ... Percival can starve as any commander .. but if shock is on the agenda .. nobody yet has mentioned this scenario ..

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/3/2012 11:13:58 PM   
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One of the big things about replacing Percival is that you can install a commander with much higher administration ratings.  This can help "cure" disablement (or is it "disruption"? whatever it's called).  So, if you're in for a long, drawn out fight, replacing Percival can be productive on several levels.  But if it's a traditional "starve out Singapore" then probably not worth the expense.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 1:36:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

One of the big things about replacing Percival is that you can install a commander with much higher administration ratings.  This can help "cure" disablement (or is it "disruption"? whatever it's called).  So, if you're in for a long, drawn out fight, replacing Percival can be productive on several levels.  But if it's a traditional "starve out Singapore" then probably not worth the expense.


All good points, pro and con. I haven't played the early game in about 1.5 years. Does a move from JB into Singer's hex across the causeway count as a shock attack, or can he move there peacefully? I thought I recalled it's a shock due to the river regardless.

Singers has only about 27,000 supply. Mike has really been wailing on it in ways the AI would not. I miscalculated the defense early and got some units stuck I wish were out. If he sits in JB it won't ever starve due to LI. There are about 150,000 fuel there too, so some HI supply is being generated. Forts are still building. I have intel in that about five total regiments have prepped for there, but that doesn't mean the intel is complete.

I've never fully grasped the value or the efect of top-level commanders in defense of sieges. I always pay for Nimitz just because, but I've always tended to spend PPs on better ship and squadron COs. I have upgraded all the combatant LCU COs at Singers, especially the Indian COs, but not the HQs.

The admin rating issue might sway me.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 2:13:35 AM   
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The first move across the river is a shock attack. But it is possible to move a whole bunch of units across take the shock and wait to recuperate .. then do a cojple of deliberates after pounding Singers for awhile from the air ... the slow starve .. or it is possible to exchange bodies for time and space and follow up with 5 or 6 shock attacks taking Singers early ...

My current opponent did the latter ... He entered Singers with 30K troops on Jan 23 and it took 50K troops on Feb 7th to take only about 20,000 Allied troops were alive to surender at the end ... A much bigger impact in scenario #1 ...

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 3:11:43 AM   
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The first move across the river is a shock attack. But it is possible to move a whole bunch of units across take the shock and wait to recuperate .. then do a cojple of deliberates after pounding Singers for awhile from the air ... the slow starve .. or it is possible to exchange bodies for time and space and follow up with 5 or 6 shock attacks taking Singers early ...

My current opponent did the latter ... He entered Singers with 30K troops on Jan 23 and it took 50K troops on Feb 7th to take only about 20,000 Allied troops were alive to surender at the end ... A much bigger impact in scenario #1 ...


I thought it was a shock. Based on what I can see he's not ready to move across in any numbers for some days/weeks. Mersing is still mined and I send the Wiraways there to recon about every third day. Haven't seen anything come in. JB is still Allied. I don't know what's at Malacca; need to recon that next turn. Just sent the turn back and Singers has 25,600 supply and is 46% to level 4 Forts. The AF bombing really puts a crimp in that.

I always figured to lose Singers, but I hoped to hold into Feb. By then I should have a smattering of decent US bombers in the theater, plus some extra base forces.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 12:55:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

One of the big things about replacing Percival is that you can install a commander with much higher administration ratings.  This can help "cure" disablement (or is it "disruption"? whatever it's called).  So, if you're in for a long, drawn out fight, replacing Percival can be productive on several levels.  But if it's a traditional "starve out Singapore" then probably not worth the expense.


I find Admin ratings 'cure' both both CR .. 7th Inf Division attacking Wake Is gets smashed on the landing with a General with a high Land Rating but poor Admin rating. 100 disruption all but 6 squads are disabled. 3 Days go by disurution still at 50 & no squads have reversed disablement .. replaced General with High Land/High Admin Rating .. Next turn Disruption 10 & 6 squads come back from being disabled.

Supply was 90K for this 4 day escapade. So supply could be a factor too along with Admin. So I am proposing for discussion from observations that a combination of admin rating + supply == cured disruption and disablements. Alfred would know ...

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 1:22:31 PM   
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Just a quick comment on this Honolulu foray ..

I tried to allude to this in CR's vs. PJH AAR but did not communicate very well -- but as we discussed Moose-- One reason PJH fell short on his plan was the false believe that Strat bombing was somehow going to get him points. In my opinion another interesting tidbit in the victory rules is the requirement for bases to be supplied to gain full points. So if the full point swing is going to happen for AV the IJ have to keep these bases supplied. Further, in my view, PH/WC presents the same problem for the IJ that the IJ presents to the Allies in the IO. The ability to interdict supply. So for One-Eyed Jacks to receive full value he not only has to simply capture, but also has to run convoys out here. If he plans to defend .. then that involves fuel ...If he plans to defend more forces that consume more supplies rasing the supply requirements for full value. It is almost a conumdrum ..

Alaska, PH, WC might offer very rich point swings but also have very long LOC's to keep those points. BTW) I observe that Tracker is keeping is daily count of the base points totality rather than the accumulation of maximum points as shown on the map. As supply wanes this variation is accounted for in the total victory points. as bases lose/gain back points due to supply.

Anyway, in CR vs PJH I envisioned very vulnerable convoy lanes running from the Kuriles to Alaska because of the emphasis on AV. Here, if One Eyed Jacks is planning for AV -- very long and vulnerable lines running out to PH. On the other hand the strategy might be simple denial. Even in this case at least 25K supplies has to be kept out here for each base taken, and more like 100K for each base if the islands are to be defended.

This game is a horrible similation ... but is an extermly interesting and intriguing game ..

Just a thought ....

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 1:58:58 PM   
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The VP swings surprise me sometimes until I dig into the details. Some of it is of course sunk ships finally being recognized (or removed from the list), and some of it is port/AF multipliers. I had not reflected too much on the supply rule. You are correct on that. The rule gets little to no discussion in the forum.

My feeling is he probably isn't focused on auto-vic. His moves n the DEI, for example, have been too methodical and are using up too much of the amphib bonus. The Hawaii expeditions are pinning the USN for sure, but not taking many ships down on either side. (Except Warspite. In the yards, first day--830 days. Ouch!) My guess is he's also not used to a player who doesn't run convoys west, although he hasn't taken Tarawa yet, and that's a "normal" Betty base for convoy sniping.

I will be alert for a move on NorPac as spring approaches. Not much I can do right now land-wise I haven't done. There are no PPs to be had to buy anything. I've strengthened Kodiak and DUtch as much as I can. I think I learned some things there watching PH too. But there are VPs to be had if Japan is in a gambling mood.

I'm also interested to see what he does with the China situation. I'm 95% sure he sees what's up there. But I'm trying to give him a big fat target at Chungking so he doesn't keep rolling on to Burma with all the non-PP "free" LCUs he can move in a no-HR game. I need to hold Chungking to keep reinforcements coming in for China, but I'd be OK with a siege there.

Just ran the next movie and the TFs near Hawaii continued generally westerly. Some refueling going on at Johnson which reads as BBs/CAs. He may have reconsidered the calendar and will be content to harrass Hawaii with subs. (Two stayed inside PH this turn despite almost 400 mines and three ASW TFs in the port. Mini-sub was detected.)

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 4:55:16 PM   
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Ho Hum

Perhaps this will become the standard daily title for when nothing much happens. Any other nominees?

1) Heavy TFs around Hawaii continue to withdraw west. One TF full of BB/CA seen at Johnson, presumably refueling. Sub vector traps all miss on best estimate tracks. This may be an abandonment of Hawiian objectives, or it could be another pause. E-mail crap-throwing suggests Japan might take one more shot at finishing Warspite off in the yards. If KB comes back one bomb would probably do it, but it would give USN another kick at the cat for a ship which will probably not contribute to the war effort again.

2) IJN subs remain inside Pearl Harbor, including at least one sighted mini-sub. Surface TFs formerly standing out as AA castles disband, and many DDs brought back as in-harbor ASW TFs. They attack many rounds. Best result is one penetrating hit and three total on I-5. With mines, ASW, patrol assets, and shallow water this is a bad percentage proposition for the subs. I'll be surprised if they're there next turn.

3) Mine clearance continues at Miri and Johnson I. Very slow at 1 per turn. But my inventories are about flat. More chess moves.

4) Chinese bombers hit Rangoon refineries again, but meet 8 Oscars this time. Don't know if they're flying "flat" or if he's railroaded aviation unit in. They get one bomber, damage 10, but a point of refinery damage is recorded. This tactic is over for now.

5) B-17s hit Miri and also fight Oscars. 1 point of Oil damage. No Forts lost. Three fairly large B-17 units are in the packages arrivng at CT in the next week.

6) Third set of strat strikes on Tarakan fail to punch through. Dutch lose three bombers even though three weak fighters accompany. This one also may have run its course.

7) Sidate in the Celebes falls to Naval Gd. unit.

8) Developing for next few days in PI--Japan took Iba several days ago, without taking Lingayan. Hex sides favor Allies. A Filipino infantry division and a USA heavy tank unit set out for Iba to see if Shock attack can pin retreat with no sides and liquidate. It's possible Iba was taken and troops loaded up and left; I have no eyes worth a scratch in the PI any longer. But if they're there they have no retreat. Might be a nice surprise for Japan. I there are two divisions there a bad surprise for the Allies, but at least some intel.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 5:00:51 PM   
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How about:  zzzzzz

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 5:10:50 PM   
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How about:  zzzzzz


Ill put it on the list.

Maybe coming up with a new title every time will be the intellectual test?

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 5:35:33 PM   
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That's a mission that could drive you nuts and, in the process, deplete your creative juices.  I think we both like words.  Coming up with titles is fun.  Until you face the prospect of coming up with something clever and/or pithy for 150 or 250 or 350 turns.  Ouch!  That leads to burn out and less-than-stellar titles like "War and Peas" and "I Dismember Mama."

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 5:46:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

That's a mission that could drive you nuts and, in the process, deplete your creative juices.  I think we both like words.  Coming up with titles is fun.  Until you face the prospect of coming up with something clever and/or pithy for 150 or 250 or 350 turns.  Ouch!  That leads to burn out and less-than-stellar titles like "War and Peas" and "I Dismember Mama."


One of those sounds familiar.

I hope to have to come up with clever titles for 1000+ turns. You know something I don't?

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 5:56:46 PM   
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No, I was just hazarding a guess that at some point your posts will on occasion cover more than one turn at a time.  That's not a certainty, of course, but it would be the "norm."  As a public service, here are suggestions for a few words that you can sprinkle into your titles when your writer's muse is absent: versimilitude, kumquat, torque, plutocrat, angst, dryad and nematode. 

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 5:57:41 PM   
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"I Dismember Mama."


Personally, I think "I Dismember Mama" is an excellent title. Brings to mind a posting from Q-ball from years back. "On today's menu: Chile con carnage" [inserted chainsaw smiley emoticon here].

I encourage Bullwinkle58 to come up with many more like that.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 6:01:11 PM   
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No, I was just hazarding a guess that at some point your posts will on occasion cover more than one turn at a time.  That's not a certainty, of course, but it would be the "norm."  As a public service, here are suggestions for a few words that you can sprinkle into your titles when your writer's muse is absent: versimilitude, kumquat, torque, plutocrat, angst, dryad and nematode. 


When you can't quite get something "out of your head", why not a (vestibular) tip of the head to Parelaphostrongylus tenuis, the moose brain worm, for a title? A subheader of "Why moose shouldn't eat snails" may be in order too-particularly when discussing activities around New Caledonia. See? There's countless ways to tie this esoterica together with the game, moose.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 6:42:58 PM   
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The humble nematode was blamed by my football club for ruining the pitch for a season a few years ago.

That, and lots of usual Northern England rain!


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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 6:59:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

No, I was just hazarding a guess that at some point your posts will on occasion cover more than one turn at a time.  That's not a certainty, of course, but it would be the "norm."  As a public service, here are suggestions for a few words that you can sprinkle into your titles when your writer's muse is absent: versimilitude, kumquat, torque, plutocrat, angst, dryad and nematode. 


I actually know all those. I'm a nerd.

I just sent an email wherein I corrected my correspondent's incorrect spelling of "tenterhooks." (Nerd squared.)



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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 7:12:30 PM   
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Just don't commit some of my many spelling faux paus, which include "salid" and "spicket."

(The smartest person I've ever known couldn't spell a lick.)

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 8:03:06 PM   
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No, I was just hazarding a guess that at some point your posts will on occasion cover more than one turn at a time.  That's not a certainty, of course, but it would be the "norm."  As a public service, here are suggestions for a few words that you can sprinkle into your titles when your writer's muse is absent: versimilitude, kumquat, torque, plutocrat, angst, dryad and nematode. 


I actually know all those. I'm a nerd.

I just sent an email wherein I corrected my correspondent's incorrect spelling of "tenterhooks." (Nerd squared.)


Well,you could write about “The angst of antler loss” the next time you suffer a setback.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 9:29:44 PM   
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quote:

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No, I was just hazarding a guess that at some point your posts will on occasion cover more than one turn at a time.  That's not a certainty, of course, but it would be the "norm."  As a public service, here are suggestions for a few words that you can sprinkle into your titles when your writer's muse is absent: versimilitude, kumquat, torque, plutocrat, angst, dryad and nematode. 


When you can't quite get something "out of your head", why not a (vestibular) tip of the head to Parelaphostrongylus tenuis, the moose brain worm, for a title? A subheader of "Why moose shouldn't eat snails" may be in order too-particularly when discussing activities around New Caledonia. See? There's countless ways to tie this esoterica together with the game, moose.


I don't eat any animal without a face. Snails gots no faces.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 9:31:47 PM   
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No, I was just hazarding a guess that at some point your posts will on occasion cover more than one turn at a time.  That's not a certainty, of course, but it would be the "norm."  As a public service, here are suggestions for a few words that you can sprinkle into your titles when your writer's muse is absent: versimilitude, kumquat, torque, plutocrat, angst, dryad and nematode. 


I actually know all those. I'm a nerd.

I just sent an email wherein I corrected my correspondent's incorrect spelling of "tenterhooks." (Nerd squared.)


Well,you could write about “The angst of antler loss” the next time you suffer a setback.


Or blame snail worms.

Seriously, the moose population of MN is being wiped out. Last few years have been very bad.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 9:32:27 PM   
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Just don't commit some of my many spelling faux paus, which include "salid" and "spicket."

(The smartest person I've ever known couldn't spell a lick.)


"A lick." Not that hard.

(rimshot!)

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/4/2012 10:19:50 PM   
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Just don't commit some of my many spelling faux paus, which include "salid" and "spicket."

(The smartest person I've ever known couldn't spell a lick.)


"A lick." Not that hard.

(rimshot!)


Well, since you're able to spell that just fine, that should tell you where you rate in CR's pantheon of smart people.

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Just don't commit some of my many spelling faux paus, which include "salid" and "spicket."

(The smartest person I've ever known couldn't spell a lick.)


"A lick." Not that hard.

(rimshot!)


Well, since you're able to spell that just fine, that should tell you where you rate in CR's pantheon of smart people.


'Cause I'm a lapsed southener.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/5/2012 7:30:12 AM   
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Any other nominees?



"And now for something completely... undifferent?"

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Any other nominees?



"And now for something completely... undifferent?"

Cheers,
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Very good! I may use it. But no royalties.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 12/6/2012 4:12:32 PM   
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"You have your ideology and I have mine(s)." (Almost) Khalil Gibran

1) Boy howdy am I glad I stuck some mines in Hilo!

TF 79 encounters mine field at Hilo (183,111)

Japanese Ships
SS I-173, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

2) ASW attack near Tawi Tawi at 71,89

Japanese Ships
DD Kuretake, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TB Otori
APD Yomogi
xAP Hakozaki Maru
DD Tatsukaze
DD Shikinami

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

At the end of the night phase a sinking sound effect is heard. My best guess is it is the DD and not I-173, sound-effect gourmet that I am. My experience is that subs very often survive pre-war mine models with about 50 flooding points. But I-173 should need a trip to Truk at minimum.

This TF is also very heavily escorted for one xAP. My best guess is it is carrying engineers to Tarakan for petroleum repairs and an air field to help with Balikpapan. Tarakan itself is still mined.

Also this turn Puerto Princesa falls, giving Japan an extra recon base for eastern Borneo ops. The base force at PP retreats to the NE.

3) For proponents of an HR forbididng night bombing, I offer this:

Night Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
SB-III x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB-III bombing from 7000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb

No CAP; a few bombers get through. But from the Combatevents report:

3 x 2nd BG/11th BS CAF SB-III stray due to night
2 x 2nd BG/30th BS CAF SB-III stray due to night


And the follow-on strike does nothing:

Night Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB-III x 3

No Allied losses

And the third costs the Allies:

Night Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB-III x 2

Allied aircraft losses
SB-III: 1 damaged

With a minimum night CAP it's unlikely any would have scored any hits. This would represent an expansion of Japanese effort, but also would complicate Allied planning and risk assessment. IMO, night bombing is not overpowered and should be allowed.

4) Initial Zero sweep at Palembang is timed perfectly and destroys the one Dutch fighter on duty before the big strike comes in on its heels:

Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
G3M2 Nell x 20

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 6 damaged
B-339D: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33

As at Singers, every turn I evaluate whether it's worth it to keep any aircraft at each base. Right now it's a matter of odds. There are a smattering of Hurricane units coming on the board, two at Aden this turn, and heavy Air Cobra units about to arrive at CT. But it may be time to evac Palembang's AF for now. Air search is nice, but I have really nothing with which to attack what I find. I may make one more (probably fruitless) effort to get enough of an air HQ from Singers to P. in order to use TBs at P. In the meantime I think Batavia might get more guests.

5) Speaking of Hurricanes, having a few makes the movie go down a little easier. Also Singers' substantial AA.

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 25
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 24

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 44

6) Typical day at Bataan, beating up on the elderly (poor Stearmans!) Japan is really chewing up the supply dumps. There were two other attacks here not shown.

Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 3
G4M1 Betty x 83

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Stearman 75M: 2 damaged
Stearman 75M: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 36

7) Picked this up in the Combatevents report:

"SOC-1 Seagull sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 80,74 near San Fernando , Speed 14 , Moving Southeast"

This could be several things. Maybe more forces for San Fernando for an overland assault on Clark. Or it could be aimed at IBA or Lingayan. My tanks sent to Iba to try a shock attack made a little more than half the distance the first day. Recon with one plane available shows no LCUs at Iba. Could be below threshold, or he could have taken them off and only taken Iba to cut off a Lingayan retreat hex. If it's empty I'll re-take it and go back to Clark.

7) B-17 attack on the AF at Johnson I. doesn't get results and loses a Fort, but does give good intel. The CAP over Johnson is the KBs. Whether it is on the range fringe as the KB retires or the KB is in rat-trap mode waiting for another cruiser bombardment of Johnson I don't know. But for at least this turn I know the KB is still around.

Morning Air attack on Johnston Island , at 164,112

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes


< Message edited by Bullwinkle58 -- 12/6/2012 4:21:00 PM >


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Sub Sunk

Round-up day for the war. Some things come to closure, a few things are discovered, a dark day for the Silent Service.

1) First USN sub lost to combat at Johnson Island. USS Trout enters Johnson after recon shows many capital ships, including entire KB, in port. Considered acceptable risk. Three penetrating hits by DCs force her to the surface where she is sunk by gunsfire from DD Sazanami. 21 hits before she explodes and sinks with all hands.

Engagement reveals at least one of the TFs in port:

Japanese Ships
DD Kagero
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
CA Chikuma
CL Yubari
CL Tatsuta
CL Tenryu
DD Ushio
DD Sazanami
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu

A later attack by S-27 on this same TF nets her 5 bad hits. I think she will make it to Pearl, but overall, in a nest of juicy targets, today was not a good one for the bubbleheads.

2) The news at Johnson isn't all bad. Whether this will lead to a KB withdrawl is to be seen.

TF 75 encounters mine field at Johnston Island (164,112)

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
DD Shigure
DD Arare
CV Akagi, Mine hits 1
DD Urakaze
DD Shiranui

7 mines cleared

This could very well be total FOW as it's odd Akagi would be in a TF with this make-up. Unless it is the KB and the battle with USS Trout was very FOWed.

3) I-23, lurking around Lahaina, sinks xAK Ensley City. However, for the first time since 12/7, there is no halo of detected subs around Oahu. Only two. Uncertain if some progessed NE into the transit lanes from the WC, or if they withdrew to reload. Have to wonder how stiff ASW plus mines have discouraged them.

4) Night bombing at Rangoon slightly damages the AF. Same at Pegu finds night CAP of Oscars and bombers are ineffective. The chess match continues.

5) Singkawang is beavily bombed, then successfully attacked and taken. Three defenders retreat, but there is nowhere to go. May march down the coast and see if a base has been left vacant. Loss of Singkawang will almost immediately spike the air load on Palembang. Better Allied fighters are entering the theater now and more are en route. Whether they go to P. is still open.

6) Yenen is taken by the 41st Division and 4th Ind.Mixed Brigade. Finally. Relieves the Allies of a VP leak. Three Chinese units are cruising by to the south and SE headed for Sian. My hope is the Japanese will rest and let them cruise.

7) Kweilin is taken by the 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade. Helps complete domination of Chinese railroads. Units ex-Kweilin are roughly 60 miles north, retreating to good roads for the trip west.

8) Allied tanks find Iba empty and re-take it. Temporary I'm sure, but a little VP relief for the time being. The tanks will go back to Clark.

So, a Japanese "clean up" day. Johnson I. remains the traffic control center of the IJN. If the ships sighted just this turn are there for fuel, oh my what a load of fuel must have been shipped in. None of the ships expended anything except AA ammo, so reloading is probably not a priority. The old Forts at Pearl are beat up and now out of production. The newer model does not have the range to reach Johnson, so any raids will need to be carefully done. It is possible I may disband some or all of the Batavia crew to feed the pools for a bit longer.

Began one last try to get an RAF HQ from Singers to P. by air, so P. can arm TBs.

Did replace Perceval with a general with Admin of around 58 I believe. Don't know if it will help, but I owe the doomed defenders of Singers that much.

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