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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 12:19:42 AM   
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It was, this morning here, nine degrees.


True, but tomorrow will be positively balmy, 37 or so.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 3:29:00 AM   
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It was, this morning here, nine degrees.


True, but tomorrow will be positively balmy, 37 or so.


Not when our alarm goes off at 0430!

Certain temperatures are just inherently funny. Nine is. Another example is . . . two. OTOH, seventeen can't make anybody laugh.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 5:58:37 AM   
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It was, this morning here, nine degrees.


True, but tomorrow will be positively balmy, 37 or so.


Not when our alarm goes off at 0430!

Certain temperatures are just inherently funny. Nine is. Another example is . . . two. OTOH, seventeen can't make anybody laugh.


Anything less than 5F, but above 0F is amusing. 5F is about the temperature at which your nose hairs will freeze, providing that tickling / punch in the solar plexus "remember me?" sort of sensation every time you want to draw breath around here in Winter. Then there's the 'cuteness' factor (which lasts about 1 day) wherein you ask your spouse to recite the temperature.

"What temperature is it, sweetie?"
"It's one. Just one. Count it out-one."

Hilarity ensues.

And then you hope for a rapid aneurysm to take you painlessly from this interstellar wasteland.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 1:00:48 PM   
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It was, this morning here, nine degrees.


True, but tomorrow will be positively balmy, 37 or so.


Not when our alarm goes off at 0430!

Certain temperatures are just inherently funny. Nine is. Another example is . . . two. OTOH, seventeen can't make anybody laugh.


Anything less than 5F, but above 0F is amusing. 5F is about the temperature at which your nose hairs will freeze, providing that tickling / punch in the solar plexus "remember me?" sort of sensation every time you want to draw breath around here in Winter. Then there's the 'cuteness' factor (which lasts about 1 day) wherein you ask your spouse to recite the temperature.

"What temperature is it, sweetie?"
"It's one. Just one. Count it out-one."

Hilarity ensues.

And then you hope for a rapid aneurysm to take you painlessly from this interstellar wasteland.


Ah, global warming. It'll be 40 today, mark my words.

The funniness of a temperature is all in the syllables. Seventeeen? Too many.

My first trip to Minneapolis, from NC, it was -32 when we walked out of the terminal to go to the rent-a-car bus. I had never been in temperatures lower than 3 in my life. The nose hair thing was startling. I thought I had a nose bleed for a minute. The ex asked "Why are you grabbing your face?"

And yet it was my idea to move here. And I really like the winters. When we actually get one.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 1:14:47 PM   
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Sitting alone, 0712. Only light on in the house is my monitor. Cat asleep in her special "winter bed."

Open the e-mail with the movie from yesterday's turn. Comment is "That was unexpected."

Now I watch the movie.

This is GREAT!.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 2:05:03 PM   
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It was. Details to follow.

My opponent is VERY sneaky.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 5:36:43 PM   
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Well?

ETA: Tease.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 6:14:32 PM   
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Had to watch "Morning Joe." Then an ep of "Alien Surf Girls." Then d/l two more gig of Steam deep holiday deal games across on our pitiful DSL. Then I got the next turn, which meant an hour of scratching around in Tracker, looking at naval mines again. Twenty minutes of rub the cat's belly. Five treating the bleeding wounds from that last.

Busy morning.


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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 6:16:55 PM   
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Well I hope he didn't invade Hawaii if your reaction to that is a massive asian land war through Burma! I've seen lots of AARs were Japanese player just goes bat-**** bored with 4E bombers pounding him to dust while little green boxes slowly push through the jungles. Plus your audience is going to want to see a carrier knife fight. You ARE in this for us right?? ;)

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 6:20:57 PM   
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Umm, no?

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 6:22:42 PM   
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235 more meg and I get some bandwidth back.

Hint for the day's sneakiness--how many Mavises does Japan get at the start of Scen 2, and how many can be clustered on one small Pacific island?

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 6:54:02 PM   
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Yeah, the Moose is a tease.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 8:55:02 PM   
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You sent PT boats to torpedo Mavises!!! Awesome!

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 9:43:02 PM   
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Yeah, the Moose is a tease.


Gotta lotta leg.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 9:43:52 PM   
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You sent PT boats to torpedo Mavises!!! Awesome!


Is "Mavises" the real plural? The world wonders . . .

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 10:47:57 PM   
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January 8, 1942

The Big Bopper Sez: "Helloooooooooo Bay-beeee!"

What was it that dude on the A-Team used to say? "I love it when a plan comes together"? A flyer planned two days ago does come together at Johnson Island, and gives some remarkable intel.

1) Two days ago, after reading a former AAR concerning an attempt on the Hawaiian Islands, PacFlt decided to take a calculated risk while the position of the KB south of the Big Island was known. Cobbling together a surface raider force of recenlty-repaired CAs and CLs, Nimitz installed Admiral Spruance in the big chair and sent the force on a dog-legged northern route to Johnson Island. The objective was to catch submarines in port, and secondarily xAKs bringing supplies or planes. Daily Cat recon is still giving only spotty results; it was hoped Spruance's personal stats would fill in the blanks.

Unfortunately, Spruance was ill-served by his planning staff (sound familiar?) They miscalculated the dogleg and the Full speed sprint ended up one hex from the island as January 7th ended. Exposed. Pants down. Curtains.

But no. The nearsighted Japanese do not detect them, or at least do not attack. But during the planning for January 8 the recon shows only a lone PB in port. Rats. So Spruance shifts to a bombardment mission, orders Mission speed, launches every float plane present to recon the fall of the shot, and bores in to attack in the night hours.

The first victims in view are two patrolling small boys. They are dispatched as the force thunders onward.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Chokai Maru, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PB Yahada Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans
CA San Francisco
CL Raleigh
CL Concord
CL St. Louis
CL Phoenix
CL Honolulu
DD Sims
DD Hughes

Next up are three fat merchants. Two are pounded to the bottom of the harbor as the third scrambles to safety:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Clyde Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Izan Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Mitu Maru, Shell hits 33, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans
CA San Francisco
CL Raleigh
CL Concord
CL St. Louis
CL Phoenix
CL Honolulu
DD Sims
DD Hughes

Finally in range, the sweating men of TF 135 fire shell after shell into the sleeping island fortress, the US Navy's first real revenge for the cowardly sneak attacks on Pearl Harbor. During the bombardment, however, the orbiting recon floats radio back amazing, vital intelligence. Johnson Island has been preparing itself in unexpected ways:

Night Naval bombardment of Johnston Island at 164,112

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 19 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M2 Zero: 33 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed on ground
H6K4 Mavis: 81 damaged
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied Ships
CA San Francisco
CA New Orleans
CL Honolulu
CL Phoenix
CL St. Louis
CL Concord
CL Raleigh

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Airbase hits 37
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 89
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

82 Mavis! Pretty much the entire Japanese inventory, flown thousands of miles across open ocean. Why?

Possibly as air search overkill for the substantial Betty force also re-located. If an air HQ is present--and so many Bettys so far forward would suggest that conclusion--the Bettys can severely interdict Pearl's approaches. But another possibility is they are there to drop paratroops on outer islands in a pincer attack with a landing on Hilo or Kona. Landings to be quickly consolidated with base forces and fighters while the US fleet is busy with Hilo.

However, 81 damaged are a sharp barb in such a plan. Mavis carries a support level of 4, and Johnson can't be rich with aviation support yet. The Bettys will need repair as well, and the CAP assets are also shredded. B-17s will need to visit soon. And the vulnerability of Johnson has been exposed. The Japanese should be happy HMS Warspite was judged too slow to go along.

2) Everything else today is anticlimax. Two hexes from Pearl an I-boat shoots and misses a small TF bringing in vitally needed fighters from the WC. Lurking I-2 near Allford Bay surface attacks--twice--a small xAKL resupplying the Yukon and misses both times. S-28 gets in position south of Hawaii to attack a surface TF consisting of two BBs and 3 DDs, but misses. I-173 penetrates Hilo yet again in search of cripples (?), but is damaged for no gain. The on-fire AE and AD from yesterday have been sent to Pearl with scant hopes, but as decoys to draw off KB attack groups. Both sink en route.

3) At Sabang several large bomber strikes try for the small group of ships taking on fuel. Three Royal Navy DDs were ordered to leave Singers and proceed to Sabang to fuel, then on to Cocos to merge with Force Z. Additionally, the last xAKLs to leave Palembang are loading fuel there to complete the ad hoc fuel dump on Cocos before proceeding to Perth. All ships are missed, but this fuel source is no longer viable. The AA unit shipped in from CT does good work in breaking up the attacks.

4) Singapore is bombed as it is every day. More supply lost, but 18 Sallys are damaged and 2 are downed by flak.

5) Near Sian the ragtag remnant of the Hudsons destroy another tank across the river and disbale a second. Japanese forces are gathering here. Best intel shows three LCUs, but three days ago 32 LCUs were noted at the rail cross-junction hex NE of Chengchow. That city is now abandoned, but remains in Chinese hands, effectively closing the railroad for at least one more day.

6) In three fragmented attacks the Balikpapan bombers lose four of their number, but inflict 3 Refinery hits in an experiment. They will shift back to Oil now.

7) A strong force of 16 B-17s flying mixed Naval and Port(Miri) missions decide on Naval at Sambas. It was a risk. Yesterday four CAs, 2 CLs, and 4 DDs were sighted refueling at Miri, and it was hoped the Forts would pick that target. Instead they target 5 xAKs at Sambas and miss all of them. They are opposed by Zeros and Claudes which damage all 16 but down none. It's a little funny to watch the Claudes try to chase the big boys on the egress and pull up panting.

8) At Rangoon another bit of comedy:

Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 11 damaged

Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 2

The joke is that Rangoon is clean as a whistle. Not one Allied soldier. Japan is blowing up its own port and supplies, less a day or two.

9) Pucheng and Kukong are taken without a fight, just about finishing the clean up of southern China. In the PI Japan takes Iba, flanking Lingayan. Can't tell if it was landings or Rowboat Corps, but I figure the former. Time to pull the two underfed defenders of LIngayan back to Clark and leave the mines.

The situation off Hawaii is becoming more crowded. In addition to the full KB, there is at least one 2BB/3DD surface action group, and at least two TFs with at least some xAKs involved. They continue to hang around south of Hilo. No alfa strike there today. My subs continue to surge south. The CL and DD defending Hilo are sent to a patrol route to the NE about ten hexes today. (The other surface icon is Oklahoma heaidng for the map edge, taking on water this turn.) The CL/DD will orbit until the landings start. At Lahaina a large TF carrying the 2nd Marine CD unit is landing. It contians two CAs and about five DDs which will be stripped to remain at Pearl.

This general chart shows the disposition of TFs. The white hex is around the KB.






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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 11:03:17 PM   
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Nice bombardment! Very effective.

I'll be the first to suggest you not read the 'damaged' a/c reports literally. Extreme FOW here. While it was a very nice poke in the eye, you most likely did *not* damage 84 Mavises / Mavisi / Mavisum.

ETA: What does your 'aircraft loss' screen tell you about the bombardment?

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 11:13:54 PM   
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Nice bombardment! Very effective.

I'll be the first to suggest you not read the 'damaged' a/c reports literally. Extreme FOW here. While it was a very nice poke in the eye, you most likely did *not* damage 84 Mavises / Mavisi / Mavisum.

ETA: What does your 'aircraft loss' screen tell you about the bombardment?


I echo these thoughts. My interpretation is the number of damaged planes is not that at all, but rather a number of Mavis's were damaged 81 times. Still, a nice bombardment.

P.s. You'd have to play Commander Stormwolf in order to see Mavis's in that quantity, er...Emily's I mean.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 11:23:27 PM   
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Nice bombardment! Very effective.

I'll be the first to suggest you not read the 'damaged' a/c reports literally. Extreme FOW here. While it was a very nice poke in the eye, you most likely did *not* damage 84 Mavises / Mavisi / Mavisum.

ETA: What does your 'aircraft loss' screen tell you about the bombardment?


Good points. But I think I did probably damage most or all of what was there. The totals with Zeros and Bettys directionaly show overstacking. I also have no experience with differing results coming from bombarments with float plane recon; I never bothered playing the AI. The daily shows about what I'd expect for destroyed. My question is how much time did I gain on repairs?





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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 11:26:44 PM   
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Mavis's are service rating 3. I'd say you've put most of them out of action for awhile. It will depend on support and supply levels at Johnston.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 11:30:43 PM   
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Mavis's are service rating 3. I'd say you've put most of them out of action for awhile. It will depend on support and supply levels at Johnston.


Are you sure? I opened a new Scenario 2 to check and I thought the pre-war ones were 4.

Edit: Tracker has them as 4. Emilys too.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 11:56:15 PM   
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My question is how much time did I gain on repairs?


Tough to say. On individual a/c airframes? That will vary. On the H6K4 front-several of those present won't be able to fly for a week. Beyond that, a/f repair (engineers present to effect repairs), a/f overstacking and sufficient AV support squads / Air HQ will determine pace of airframe recovery.

Can you mouseover the a/f and provide us a screenie?


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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/27/2012 11:58:33 PM   
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Mavis's are service rating 3. I'd say you've put most of them out of action for awhile. It will depend on support and supply levels at Johnston.


Are you sure? I opened a new Scenario 2 to check and I thought the pre-war ones were 4.

Edit: Tracker has them as 4. Emilys too.


Yes. My scenario 2 database has them at service rating '4'.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/28/2012 12:29:07 AM   
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My question is how much time did I gain on repairs?


Tough to say. On individual a/c airframes? That will vary. On the H6K4 front-several of those present won't be able to fly for a week. Beyond that, a/f repair (engineers present to effect repairs), a/f overstacking and sufficient AV support squads / Air HQ will determine pace of airframe recovery.

Can you mouseover the a/f and provide us a screenie?



Daily recon for about five days and a night of float planes overhead, and d/l is 2/5. Tough room. No patrol planes at all in this pic.






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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/28/2012 1:24:13 AM   
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What are the D/Ls like on your subs south of the Big Island? Getting them onto KB at this stage would be a great follow-up to your bombardment!

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What are the D/Ls like on your subs south of the Big Island? Getting them onto KB at this stage would be a great follow-up to your bombardment!


Don't know, but I'm about to start the turn. Checking them is on the list. I check d/ls of the non-transiting subs about 80% of the turns. IOW, when I remember to.

I have hopes for the S-boats down there. He has restricted the KB's maneuvering to a pretty tight band for three days now.

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Are you sure? I opened a new Scenario 2 to check and I thought the pre-war ones were 4.

Edit: Tracker has them as 4. Emilys too.


Sorry, my mistake. I apologize for the wrong information.

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No bigs.

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What are the D/Ls like on your subs south of the Big Island? Getting them onto KB at this stage would be a great follow-up to your bombardment!


Second answer. Just sent the turn back.

Every sub down there was either 10/10 or 5/5. I moved every one of them to a new patrol zone.

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RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwin... - 11/28/2012 6:09:36 PM   
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Just got the movie for the last turn. Have not watched it yet, but the title was "Allies Give Japan The Johnson."

Well, I DID order a second day of bombardment before the TF screamed for home . . .


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