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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.0) - 2/12/2013 3:05:26 PM   
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Significant improvement as I am now able to access the screen to get reports. I have zero days however it says on my screen. Now most of that is my fault because I didn't have archive set up until right before I posted first message. Do I have to have Intel monkey running while I'm playing?

Each time you run Intel Monkey it "starts over" from scratch, reading in all the applicable files from that archive sub folder underneath the save sub folder. So, you don't have to have Intel Monkey running when AE is running. In fact, you could (if you wanted to) not run Intel Monkey for 50 turns, then run it, and it would look just the same as if you ran it every turn.

Because Intel Monkey does not (currently) keep it's own database, it relies on all the files being present in that archive sub folder. If you were to, say, play 1,000 turns and then delete all those archive files, Intel Monkey would come up empty. So of course never do that! My plans are for Intel Monkey to keep a database in the future. Right now there are still many improvements to come in how the report files are processed, meaning that there is more information in them to be found that Intel Monkey does not yet recognize. When those improvements are pretty much all done it will be time to look at exactly what sort of database is best for IM and use that to help with some advanced reporting functions.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.0) - 2/12/2013 5:37:18 PM   
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Thank you sir. Think we are almost there I can now get to the screen saying basic signt report and basic combat. But clicking on these buttons says no days and no reports.

Trying to type this on my phone. Ok I have monkey in its own folder. Still in my download section. First line I have set for scenario through my matrix folder where game is at. Second line is set at default. Third line, I mispoke and it not 003 but 009. I clicked the proceed button and it appears to work fine. Few lines says something about cvs files. The I exit that and clicked on intelmonkey a. Because I am allied. And that's where it tell me after clicking basic Sig or combat buttons I have zero days.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.0) - 2/12/2013 6:47:36 PM   
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Thank you sir. Think we are almost there I can now get to the screen saying basic signt report and basic combat. But clicking on these buttons says no days and no reports.

Trying to type this on my phone. Ok I have monkey in its own folder. Still in my download section. First line I have set for scenario through my matrix folder where game is at. Second line is set at default. Third line, I mispoke and it not 003 but 009. I clicked the proceed button and it appears to work fine. Few lines says something about cvs files. The I exit that and clicked on intelmonkey a. Because I am allied. And that's where it tell me after clicking basic Sig or combat buttons I have zero days.

OK. You know how to get the Bases.txt file and you know it has to be in the same folder as Intel Monkey, so that part is good.

Next up is how does Intel Monkey find your archive sub folder? By default, if you do not edit the Intel monkey program file (the .py file), Intel Monkey is set up to presume it is in a certain sub folder. You have a folder for your main AE install

- Main AE install folder (exact name does not matter)
-- tools
--- Intel Monkey (exact name of this folder does not matter, but this is where Intel Monkey expects to be installed.)

From that spot, Intel Monkey backs upwards two levels, then goes downwards through the SAVE folder to find the archive folder.

- Main AE install folder (exact name does not matter)
-- SAVE
--- archive

So the easiest thing to do, is just copy (or move) that whole folder that you've created in your download section. Move it so that it is inside the 'tools' folder.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.0) - 2/12/2013 7:42:15 PM   
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Hey, guess what works. Thank you for your response and patience to walk me through this. Also very much appreciate the time it took you to make this program.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (New Version: 0.4.0) - 2/12/2013 7:58:14 PM   
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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/22/2014 4:10:07 PM   
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I've decided I need something o help keep track of and organise Allied intel and this seems to fit. Two questions, do you need this program called Python (whatever that is) if so I'll skip it. If not where can I download it?

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/22/2014 5:04:05 PM   
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I've decided I need something o help keep track of and organise Allied intel and this seems to fit. Two questions, do you need this program called Python (whatever that is) if so I'll skip it. If not where can I download it?

Yes, you do. "python.org" is where to find it. There are two general versions, 2.x and 3.x as the language is in the midst of a multi-year upgrade process. You need the latest version of 3.x, which at the moment is 3.4.1.

This is the 32-bit installer: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.1/python-3.4.1.msi (should work on any Windows PC).

This is the 64-bit installer: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.1/python-3.4.1.amd64.msi (requires a 64-bit PC, which most of them are now).

A little explanation, Python is the language that Intel Monkey is currently written in, and the way that IM is currently distributed you do need to install Python (just like you need a certain version of Java installed in order to run Tracker).

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/22/2014 11:31:22 PM   
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I've decided I need something o help keep track of and organise Allied intel and this seems to fit. Two questions, do you need this program called Python (whatever that is) if so I'll skip it. If not where can I download it?

Yes, you do. "python.org" is where to find it. There are two general versions, 2.x and 3.x as the language is in the midst of a multi-year upgrade process. You need the latest version of 3.x, which at the moment is 3.4.1.

This is the 32-bit installer: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.1/python-3.4.1.msi (should work on any Windows PC).

This is the 64-bit installer: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.1/python-3.4.1.amd64.msi (requires a 64-bit PC, which most of them are now).

A little explanation, Python is the language that Intel Monkey is currently written in, and the way that IM is currently distributed you do need to install Python (just like you need a certain version of Java installed in order to run Tracker).


Hey Witpqs,

Did you ever get that tool running that builds Intel Monkey into a standalone application (that doesn't require the python programming environment to be installed)?

I'll PM you about it.

Cheers,
Reg
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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 6:07:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: Chris H

I've decided I need something o help keep track of and organise Allied intel and this seems to fit. Two questions, do you need this program called Python (whatever that is) if so I'll skip it. If not where can I download it?

Yes, you do. "python.org" is where to find it. There are two general versions, 2.x and 3.x as the language is in the midst of a multi-year upgrade process. You need the latest version of 3.x, which at the moment is 3.4.1.

This is the 32-bit installer: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.1/python-3.4.1.msi (should work on any Windows PC).

This is the 64-bit installer: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.1/python-3.4.1.amd64.msi (requires a 64-bit PC, which most of them are now).

A little explanation, Python is the language that Intel Monkey is currently written in, and the way that IM is currently distributed you do need to install Python (just like you need a certain version of Java installed in order to run Tracker).


Thanks. I'll think about it.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 7:21:07 AM   
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I've decided I need something o help keep track of and organise Allied intel and this seems to fit. Two questions, do you need this program called Python (whatever that is) if so I'll skip it. If not where can I download it?

Yes, you do. "python.org" is where to find it. There are two general versions, 2.x and 3.x as the language is in the midst of a multi-year upgrade process. You need the latest version of 3.x, which at the moment is 3.4.1.

This is the 32-bit installer: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.1/python-3.4.1.msi (should work on any Windows PC).

This is the 64-bit installer: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.4.1/python-3.4.1.amd64.msi (requires a 64-bit PC, which most of them are now).

A little explanation, Python is the language that Intel Monkey is currently written in, and the way that IM is currently distributed you do need to install Python (just like you need a certain version of Java installed in order to run Tracker).


Thanks. I'll think about it.

Laying tile on the kitchen floor for the umpteenth day in a row (not that big a room, just not my bag!), so bleary-eyed responses here. I should have added that the Python installation should be drop-dead automatic. You just run it, give it permission, maybe answer a question or two like any installation. After that you forget about it until/unless you decide to upgrade it later on.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 9:34:17 AM   
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Laying tile on the kitchen floor for the umpteenth day in a row (not that big a room, just not my bag!), so bleary-eyed responses here. I should have added that the Python installation should be drop-dead automatic. You just run it, give it permission, maybe answer a question or two like any installation. After that you forget about it until/unless you decide to upgrade it later on.


Does it install on start up or when the ap starts? Oh! and best of luck with the tiles.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 11:49:05 AM   
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ASKING FROM IGNORANCE -

I see Intel Monkey and Tracker referred to.

Are they complimentary? Or do they overlap? Or completely different.

I've made some halfhearted efforts to get Tracker, but having issues getting Java 6 to stick.

I've been even more halfhearted getting Intel Monkey.

SO which should I put the effort into getting.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 12:41:16 PM   
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Intel monkey is for the AFB's intel.

Tracker is a must have for JFB's to run the economy. AFB's use it some, but it isn't critical.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 6:00:04 PM   
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Intel monkey is for the AFB's intel.

Tracker is a must have for JFB's to run the economy. AFB's use it some, but it isn't critical.

Intel Monkey also has searches on ships and LCU in the combat reports. Useful for IJ player too.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 6:01:21 PM   
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ASKING FROM IGNORANCE -

I see Intel Monkey and Tracker referred to.

Are they complimentary? Or do they overlap? Or completely different.

I've made some halfhearted efforts to get Tracker, but having issues getting Java 6 to stick.

I've been even more halfhearted getting Intel Monkey.

SO which should I put the effort into getting.

Complimentary, as the overlap is trivial. I use Tracker every turn. I wrote Intel Monkey and obviously I use it too, but I don't need it every turn.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 6:04:40 PM   
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Laying tile on the kitchen floor for the umpteenth day in a row (not that big a room, just not my bag!), so bleary-eyed responses here. I should have added that the Python installation should be drop-dead automatic. You just run it, give it permission, maybe answer a question or two like any installation. After that you forget about it until/unless you decide to upgrade it later on.


Does it install on start up or when the ap starts? Oh! and best of luck with the tiles.

Python installs one time. When the application starts, it uses (runs in) a Python interpreter, the start up of which is part of the application starting up.

It's the same situation as Tracker, just that Tracker uses a Java interpreter (instead of a Python interpreter).

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/23/2014 6:06:48 PM   
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I've made some halfhearted efforts to get Tracker, but having issues getting Java 6 to stick.


Search for my posts in the Tracker forum. I have shown the steps on how to get the old Java 6 installed correctly even while the latest Java 7 is on the system. IIRC I even included links on where to get old Java 6 on Oracles web site.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/24/2014 12:03:50 PM   
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I've installed everything and IntelMonkey runs OK but cannot find any Intel files or Combat reports to read and yes, I do have archive files in my save folder.

From earlier in the thread it appears that IntelMonkey looks in a specific location for them.  My IntelMonkey installation is C:\Matrix Games\WitP AE RA\IntelMonkey so how do I force it to look in C:\Matrix Games\WitP AE RA\SAVE\archive for the archives?

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/24/2014 1:11:15 PM   
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I've installed everything and IntelMonkey runs OK but cannot find any Intel files or Combat reports to read and yes, I do have archive files in my save folder.

From earlier in the thread it appears that IntelMonkey looks in a specific location for them.  My IntelMonkey installation is C:\Matrix Games\WitP AE RA\IntelMonkey so how do I force it to look in C:\Matrix Games\WitP AE RA\SAVE\archive for the archives?


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Next up is how does Intel Monkey find your archive sub folder? By default, if you do not edit the Intel monkey program file (the .py file), Intel Monkey is set up to presume it is in a certain sub folder. You have a folder for your main AE install

- Main AE install folder (exact name does not matter)
-- tools
--- Intel Monkey (exact name of this folder does not matter, but this is where Intel Monkey expects to be installed.)

From that spot, Intel Monkey backs upwards two levels, then goes downwards through the SAVE folder to find the archive folder.

- Main AE install folder (exact name does not matter)
-- SAVE
--- archive

So the easiest thing to do, is just copy (or move) that whole folder that you've created in your download section. Move it so that it is inside the 'tools' folder.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/24/2014 4:11:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chris H

I've installed everything and IntelMonkey runs OK but cannot find any Intel files or Combat reports to read and yes, I do have archive files in my save folder.

From earlier in the thread it appears that IntelMonkey looks in a specific location for them.  My IntelMonkey installation is C:\Matrix Games\WitP AE RA\IntelMonkey so how do I force it to look in C:\Matrix Games\WitP AE RA\SAVE\archive for the archives?


quote:

Next up is how does Intel Monkey find your archive sub folder? By default, if you do not edit the Intel monkey program file (the .py file), Intel Monkey is set up to presume it is in a certain sub folder. You have a folder for your main AE install

- Main AE install folder (exact name does not matter)
-- tools
--- Intel Monkey (exact name of this folder does not matter, but this is where Intel Monkey expects to be installed.)

From that spot, Intel Monkey backs upwards two levels, then goes downwards through the SAVE folder to find the archive folder.

- Main AE install folder (exact name does not matter)
-- SAVE
--- archive

So the easiest thing to do, is just copy (or move) that whole folder that you've created in your download section. Move it so that it is inside the 'tools' folder.



Thanks, it worked but I find it unusual that it's the location of program that matters and not were the files are that the program accesses, but never mind it works and that's all that matters.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/24/2014 5:06:30 PM   
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Thanks, it worked but I find it unusual that it's the location of program that matters and not were the files are that the program accesses, but never mind it works and that's all that matters.


It actually is where the files are that matters, and there is a variable inside the program to specify that. But - people make all manner of different decisions about where they want to put things that I cannot predict. Plus, many people use multiple installations of AE, and those installations have names that I also cannot predict.

In spite of that, I wanted to have a default configuration that would work for most people right out of the box. I figured that the 'tools' folder is the most likely place where Intel Monkey would get installed (it's created by Matrix as part of the installation, for example). So by default I presume that IM is installed under that 'tools' folder, then I navigate from there as EHansen cut and pasted.

You can put IM anyplace you want to as long as you edit the file and tell it where to find your data. If you don't want to bother with that, then you can just put it in the 'default place' as described in the doc and from there it already knows where to find the data.

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/24/2014 7:05:37 PM   
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Thanks, it worked but I find it unusual that it's the location of program that matters and not were the files are that the program accesses, but never mind it works and that's all that matters.


It actually is where the files are that matters, and there is a variable inside the program to specify that. But - people make all manner of different decisions about where they want to put things that I cannot predict. Plus, many people use multiple installations of AE, and those installations have names that I also cannot predict.

In spite of that, I wanted to have a default configuration that would work for most people right out of the box. I figured that the 'tools' folder is the most likely place where Intel Monkey would get installed (it's created by Matrix as part of the installation, for example). So by default I presume that IM is installed under that 'tools' folder, then I navigate from there as EHansen cut and pasted.

You can put IM anyplace you want to as long as you edit the file and tell it where to find your data. If you don't want to bother with that, then you can just put it in the 'default place' as described in the doc and from there it already knows where to find the data.


I happy, it works just not the way I would normally access a file but your explanation as to why makes sense. Thanks

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RE: Introducing Intel Monkey (Another New Version: 0.4.1b) - 6/25/2014 1:28:58 AM   
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Intel monkey is for the AFB's intel.

Tracker is a must have for JFB's to run the economy. AFB's use it some, but it isn't critical.

Intel Monkey also has searches on ships and LCU in the combat reports. Useful for IJ player too.

I know, but that is a secondary or tertiary thing for me given FOW.

When I play AFB, I have to have Intel Monkey to make use of the allied intel. Tracker, not really.

When I plan JFB, I have to have Tracker to run the IJ economy. Intel Monkey, not as much.

And of course I use Combat Reporter for both sides.

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