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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 8/25/2012 8:14:09 AM   
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No.. that will not be the end.. We will be eliminated as an obstruction to the Pan-Galactic Super Highway.



Thanks for nothing. I laughed while reading this in bed and got a stern look from the Missus.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 8/25/2012 10:49:37 AM   
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Borg-like humans will first appear in the Tour de France.


This subject was explored in a frightening TimeWatch documentary from several years ago entitled 'The Cyborg Cometh'

A truly frightening ( possible ) evolutionary path for humans.


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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 8/25/2012 11:04:49 AM   
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Extreme Weather Linked to Global Warming, Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Says

(You are not allowed to post links for 7 days from the date of your tenth post.) !??!???!


The funny thing is because global warming has been allowed to advance unchecked everyone will be calling for a one world government in 10-20 years. Is this a sad coincidence or an evil plot, well your guess is as good as mine.


Most Brits I know don't want to be governed from Europe, being governed by a world government has got no chance.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 10:14:38 AM   
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I could explain much of that, seen many of those doctrines, I didn't watch the videos, but I have heard and even posted about many errors in those doctrines.

The issue is I need money
And if they could control me, they would not have created situations that make acquisitions of material resources more difficult to attempt to limit people that do not 'do what they are told'. It is material issues that are mostly used to try and control people in society. Then they discuss the other issues so you don't discuss economic situations.

There is a difference from being controlled,
and doing everything you are told to do.

The thing is, if they can get you to think you are controlled, you will do what someone else says you have to do.

99% of controlling someone is to get them to think they are controlled. There are also some doctrines that say people can effect the world they are in, and if you think you can be controlled, then that would be the effects you would create.


It is also possible some people are controlled, and some might even like that way of living, that is a free will choice also.


Although...
"I have seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion,
I have seen sea beams glitter in the darkness off of ten house of gait" - Blade Runner

So there is always that to think on.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 10:37:14 AM   
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Don't worry, be happy
if this guy's predictions are true,

http://www.livescience.com/1951-forecast-sex-marriage-robots-2050.html

by 2050 we will all (or those that are still kicking around), be happily married or in a "relationship" with a tailored-made Romba/ nurse/ companion/sex-robots

I am looking forward to my golden years

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 1:30:03 PM   
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This has been a common Science Fiction theme for 50 years. The book/movie 2001 were written in 1968 and had a self aware computer. Despite dramatic advances in computing beyond even what Stanley Kubric and Arther Clarke saw back then, we do not have self aware computers 11 years after the date of that movie.

Bill

Well my PC sometimes doing stange things, sometimes it work, sometimes not, sometimes i think pc simply doesnt like me.

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For end of human race - yes it will come and will be caused by humans. And yes, it will be due to overpopulation, but not by nummer of ppl itself, but by war which will start from need keep resources for own population.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 1:36:41 PM   
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Extreme Weather Linked to Global Warming, Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Says

(You are not allowed to post links for 7 days from the date of your tenth post.) !??!???!


The funny thing is because global warming has been allowed to advance unchecked everyone will be calling for a one world government in 10-20 years. Is this a sad coincidence or an evil plot, well your guess is as good as mine.

1. global warming caused by human is one of biggest BS in this century.
2. calling for one global goverment is done only by these which are directly intered in creating it for own profit.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 1:41:24 PM   
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The USA no longer leads in green house gas emissions, so to address the problem it will take a one world government. ( which of course is a dreadful idea)


wow, we dont like your goverment ways, we will thown you down and setup goverment to your liking. Wow, very nice idea.
Wait, but this is what US do to est of world post 2001. Who will put down goverment of US down ?

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 1:48:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lcp Purcell

Extreme Weather Linked to Global Warming, Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Says

(You are not allowed to post links for 7 days from the date of your tenth post.) !??!???!


The funny thing is because global warming has been allowed to advance unchecked everyone will be calling for a one world government in 10-20 years. Is this a sad coincidence or an evil plot, well your guess is as good as mine.


Most Brits I know don't want to be governed from Europe, being governed by a world government has got no chance.

Yeah, Brits will only like one world ruler only if all will drive on left side and goverment will be monarchy.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 1:54:16 PM   
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They better let us keep playing AE!


Yeah, but the AI will regularly kick our asses.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 3:14:34 PM   
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I'm surprised no-one has mentioned some of the more likely causes of apocalypse.... while over-prescribing of antibiotics won't end the race it'll mean people die from routine surgery once again... The real danger though is a fragile, rapidly mutating airborne virus a la "swine flu" or marburg. We've been lucky so far in that when Ebola went airborne it was a simian strain with really low infectivity for humans and very mild symptoms.... if a human strain of Ebola became airborne or swine flu variant became more lethal then we'd have a society-ending event ( some would live, obviously for many of the same reasons that a tiny % of the human population is "immune" to HIV ) but you could be looking at 95 to 99%+ death rates IF you had the right mix of latency, infectivity and lethality--- IOW all 3 of the factors which make something a Biosafety Level 4 hazard ( most of the diseases which are BSL 4 meet just one, maybe 2 of the criteria ). To put this into perspective HIV is BSL 2 since it really doesn't have the potential to destroy the world --- just the fabric of certain societies.





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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 3:52:22 PM   
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So something along these lines is what you are refering to is it ?

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/plague-inc./id525818839?mt=8

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 4:26:21 PM   
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Yes, that game is a very interesting piece of edutainment. Personally I think they should use that to teach infectious diseases and epidemiology to medical undergraduates.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 4:39:54 PM   
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Somewhere on a book shelf in my house is a book titled, 88 Reasons the Rapture will Occur in 1988.

On another shelf is a book by the same author, written the next year, that he had made a mistake and that the rapture would occur in 1989.

I don't know what that author is doing these days.

Also on my dusty shelves are some NewsGroup magazines from the mid 1970s confirming that we were entering a new ice age.

Also, I have from 2003 a copy of NewsGroup and a copy of Time predicting that the US armed forces were going to get chewed alive by the Iraqui army as they drew closer to Bagdad. Just after those issues arrived in the mail, I was reading them in the cab of my pickup truck, listening on the radio to news that the US forces had rolled into Bagdad and the city had fallen. (This isn't to say anything about the long and trying period to follow.)

NewsGroup no longer offers a print edition. Time is now a pamphlet-sized publication that specializes in ranking colleges and hospitals and propaganda.

Meanwhile, reality is very different from apocalyptic predictions. Mayan calendar, meteor, asteroid, war, disease, global warming, overpopulation, polution, death, the end!


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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 4:52:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Somewhere on a book shelf in my house is a book titled, 88 Reasons the Rapture will Occur in 1988.

On another shelf is a book by the same author, written the next year, that he had made a mistake and that the rapture would occur in 1989.

I don't know what that author is doing these days.

Also on my dusty shelves are some NewsGroup magazines from the mid 1970s confirming that we were entering a new ice age.

Also, I have from 2003 a copy of NewsGroup and a copy of Time predicting that the US armed forces were going to get chewed alive by the Iraqui army as they drew closer to Bagdad. Just after those issues arrived in the mail, I was reading them in the cab of my pickup truck, listening on the radio to news that the US forces had rolled into Bagdad and the city had fallen. (This isn't to say anything about the long and trying period to follow.)

NewsGroup no longer offers a print edition. Time is now a pamphlet-sized publication that specializes in ranking colleges and hospitals and propaganda.

Meanwhile, reality is very different from apocalyptic predictions. Mayan calendar, meteor, asteroid, war, disease, global warming, overpopulation, polution, death, the end!




Wasn't that Harold Camping? ;)


RE: the whole end of the human race thing - life in this universe is fragile. It can end at any time for any number of reasons. The universe is a dangerous place.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's always been this dangerous, and always will be. Just because somebody says something or an article comes out now, doesn't mean that it's any different now than it always has been. Culture war issues perhaps notwithstanding...

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 5:08:42 PM   
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Doomsday scenarios are part of that negative bias. We have this niggling feeling that if things are going OK, they must be a sabre toothed tiger around here somewhere and we're its next meal. Because sabre toothed tigers are extinct (and we're not!), we scare ourselves with the dangers that could conceivably happen.

Bill


Yeahbut, yeahbut . . .

Today I read about MERS (scary stuff) on the SAME DAY (!!!!) "World War Z" debuts in theaters. Coincidence? I think not.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 5:11:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nemo121

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned some of the more likely causes of apocalypse.... while over-prescribing of antibiotics won't end the race it'll mean people die from routine surgery once again... The real danger though is a fragile, rapidly mutating airborne virus a la "swine flu" or marburg. We've been lucky so far in that when Ebola went airborne it was a simian strain with really low infectivity for humans and very mild symptoms.... if a human strain of Ebola became airborne or swine flu variant became more lethal then we'd have a society-ending event ( some would live, obviously for many of the same reasons that a tiny % of the human population is "immune" to HIV ) but you could be looking at 95 to 99%+ death rates IF you had the right mix of latency, infectivity and lethality--- IOW all 3 of the factors which make something a Biosafety Level 4 hazard ( most of the diseases which are BSL 4 meet just one, maybe 2 of the criteria ). To put this into perspective HIV is BSL 2 since it really doesn't have the potential to destroy the world --- just the fabric of certain societies.






Like I said, MERS. It's coming!!!!

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 5:12:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Somewhere on a book shelf in my house is a book titled, 88 Reasons the Rapture will Occur in 1988.

On another shelf is a book by the same author, written the next year, that he had made a mistake and that the rapture would occur in 1989.

I don't know what that author is doing these days.



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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 5:48:42 PM   
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I didn't buy those books. I acquired them from a class somewhere and then kept them to use as examples of "apocalyptic fever" when I teach, from time to time.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 5:55:15 PM   
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I, personally, subscribe to King's scenario in 'The Stand.'



"It's the end of the world as we know it and I FEEL fine."

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/20/2013 6:01:29 PM   
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It's a mathematical certainty that mankind as a society will fail. The only variable is technology.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 12:26:19 AM   
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I, personally, subscribe to King's scenario in 'The Stand.'



That was a great book, I remember reading it years ago (shortly out of college). It was late one night, there was a storm out, I was listening to the radio and it cut out, so my little apartment became creepy-quiet. Next thing I knew, I coughed, and I sat up with a start "Oh my God, now I'm infected!!"

That was a sign of really being drawn into the story! Not really a fan of Steven King or the horror genre, but that one still stands out for me.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 1:00:39 AM   
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quote:

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I, personally, subscribe to King's scenario in 'The Stand.'



That was a great book, I remember reading it years ago (shortly out of college). It was late one night, there was a storm out, I was listening to the radio and it cut out, so my little apartment became creepy-quiet. Next thing I knew, I coughed, and I sat up with a start "Oh my God, now I'm infected!!"

That was a sign of really being drawn into the story! Not really a fan of Steven King or the horror genre, but that one still stands out for me.


The Stand is one of my favorite ever. Because of it, I also read Dark Tower. Flagg is one of my favorite villains.

I haven't read much of his other stuff, but his fantasy-horror I quite adore. I'll probably re-read Dark Tower within a year or so. There are rumblings it's going to be produced as a TV show.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 1:03:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Somewhere on a book shelf in my house is a book titled, 88 Reasons the Rapture will Occur in 1988.

On another shelf is a book by the same author, written the next year, that he had made a mistake and that the rapture would occur in 1989.

I don't know what that author is doing these days.

Also on my dusty shelves are some NewsGroup magazines from the mid 1970s confirming that we were entering a new ice age.

Also, I have from 2003 a copy of NewsGroup and a copy of Time predicting that the US armed forces were going to get chewed alive by the Iraqui army as they drew closer to Bagdad. Just after those issues arrived in the mail, I was reading them in the cab of my pickup truck, listening on the radio to news that the US forces had rolled into Bagdad and the city had fallen. (This isn't to say anything about the long and trying period to follow.)

NewsGroup no longer offers a print edition. Time is now a pamphlet-sized publication that specializes in ranking colleges and hospitals and propaganda.

Meanwhile, reality is very different from apocalyptic predictions. Mayan calendar, meteor, asteroid, war, disease, global warming, overpopulation, polution, death, the end!




My father said he recalls seeing a guy back in the 1930s when he was a teen claiming the world was about to end. He's seen a lot of predictions of doom come and go since.

Bad things do happen in the world. The game this forum is about is one of the largest human events/disasters in history. (It was a disaster for those directly effected.) But I've found human imagination for what could conceivably happen is usually far more colorful than real events most of the time. Look at all the various disaster movies that have been made. Very few ever happened.

It's possible Yellowstone will explode tomorrow, or California will have a massive earthquake that does a lot of damage (or the New Madrid fault will move flattening St Louis), or, or, or. However, the safe bet is that the world will continue to bumble along like it did today. The news will have a few stories that may be worth note, but in the grand scheme of things, probably not anything that will be remembered in 100 years, nor will the human race go extinct any time soon.

Bill

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 1:50:16 AM   
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Well, if you are really concerned about any of the above in our lifetime (and have some cash), might want to give these people a call:
Kansas Survival Caves



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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 2:01:54 AM   
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Like I said, MERS. It's coming!!!!


A few years ago it was SARS that was going to kill us all.

Not all of the disaster scenarios are profit driven, but some of it is. When I start hearing lots of fear laden stories about some potential disaster, I start looking for who stands to make a buck from it.

Bill

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 2:16:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wdolson


quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Somewhere on a book shelf in my house is a book titled, 88 Reasons the Rapture will Occur in 1988.

On another shelf is a book by the same author, written the next year, that he had made a mistake and that the rapture would occur in 1989.

I don't know what that author is doing these days.

Also on my dusty shelves are some NewsGroup magazines from the mid 1970s confirming that we were entering a new ice age.

Also, I have from 2003 a copy of NewsGroup and a copy of Time predicting that the US armed forces were going to get chewed alive by the Iraqui army as they drew closer to Bagdad. Just after those issues arrived in the mail, I was reading them in the cab of my pickup truck, listening on the radio to news that the US forces had rolled into Bagdad and the city had fallen. (This isn't to say anything about the long and trying period to follow.)

NewsGroup no longer offers a print edition. Time is now a pamphlet-sized publication that specializes in ranking colleges and hospitals and propaganda.

Meanwhile, reality is very different from apocalyptic predictions. Mayan calendar, meteor, asteroid, war, disease, global warming, overpopulation, polution, death, the end!




My father said he recalls seeing a guy back in the 1930s when he was a teen claiming the world was about to end. He's seen a lot of predictions of doom come and go since.

Bad things do happen in the world. The game this forum is about is one of the largest human events/disasters in history. (It was a disaster for those directly effected.) But I've found human imagination for what could conceivably happen is usually far more colorful than real events most of the time. Look at all the various disaster movies that have been made. Very few ever happened.

It's possible Yellowstone will explode tomorrow, or California will have a massive earthquake that does a lot of damage (or the New Madrid fault will move flattening St Louis), or, or, or. However, the safe bet is that the world will continue to bumble along like it did today. The news will have a few stories that may be worth note, but in the grand scheme of things, probably not anything that will be remembered in 100 years, nor will the human race go extinct any time soon.

Bill



Thanks a lot Bill! I honestly had not heard of the New Madrid fault that you mentioned. As I sit in my hotel room JUST outside St. Louis, preparing to move myself and all my worldly possessions here, and hurriedly look up the referenced disaster. ARG!!!!! I thought I left that crap in Seattle and on Guam!!!! Now I need to worry about tornados AND earthquakes! I'm doomed, doomed I tell you!........

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 2:26:43 AM   
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Washington State building codes take into account the possibility of earthquakes. I don't know of any Midwestern state that has earthquake provisions in their building codes.

Fortunately the geologic record shows that the New Madrid fault doesn't move very often. It has major earthquakes about ever 400 years, though there is a report from a missionary in modern day Tennessee who reported a mild earthquake on Dec 25. 1699 that was probably from the New Madrid fault.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 2:55:58 AM   
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I suspect we have met our end many times....we are good at it.

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RE: OT: The end of the human race - 6/21/2013 4:03:25 AM   
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Washington State building codes take into account the possibility of earthquakes. I don't know of any Midwestern state that has earthquake provisions in their building codes.

Fortunately the geologic record shows that the New Madrid fault doesn't move very often. It has major earthquakes about ever 400 years, though there is a report from a missionary in modern day Tennessee who reported a mild earthquake on Dec 25. 1699 that was probably from the New Madrid fault.

bill


It doesn't move often, but when it does, it tends to cause a lot of turmoil and travel a long way, due to the different composition of the soil here and lack of mountains/rocky formations. The last major one (actually 3 major ones, 7.5-7.7 each) in 1811-1812 were so strong, they rang church bells in Philadelphia, and were felt in Charleston SC and Boston. Luckily the land was sparsely populated at the time, but it had tremendous affects, changing the course of the Mississippi river (even flowing backwards for a period).

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