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floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/15/2012 10:44:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Most of FTs, inparticular Japanese ones, have CL and CA with one or two floatplanes.

do you have to click and set one by one ship to configure a reasonable arc search around your FTs? Im afraid yes, but even so, let me know your tactics using floatplanes in TFs.

Do you combine them with carrier-based bombers for naval search missions?
I think this is what was done in real operations, since IJN lacked of specialized embarked search mission aircrafts.
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RE: floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/15/2012 11:02:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don't set search arc for ship FPs. They work just fine when set for 50% search and 6k altitude (default settings).

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RE: floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/15/2012 1:26:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I'm not sure I can entirely agree Sardaukar. If the Float plane has a longer range than four, then arcs can be set, and can be useful. I use them to scout out the areas ahead of a TF to make sure I spot anything out there, or along a threat sector. The real weakness of float planes is that they are very susceptible to weather. Unlike carrier launched search planes that you can count on, float planes from a CA or BB are problematic as they may not fly if the weather is poor!

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RE: floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/15/2012 3:12:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: fulcrum28

Most of FTs, inparticular Japanese ones, have CL and CA with one or two floatplanes.

do you have to click and set one by one ship to configure a reasonable arc search around your FTs? Im afraid yes, but even so, let me know your tactics using floatplanes in TFs.

Do you combine them with carrier-based bombers for naval search missions?
I think this is what was done in real operations, since IJN lacked of specialized embarked search mission aircrafts.


Don't set search arc if there's just 1 to 3 float planes. Search work fine without arcs.

When there's a possibility to meet enemy, I set my Japanese float planes (Jakes) 100 % search and range 7 or 8. When my fleet is heading home, I let them rest or set them to 50 % ASW. You can use 100 % search without problems at least 10 turns.

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RE: floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/15/2012 6:26:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		You guys should know that arcs are not relative to TF course...so..setting arc will potentially hurt you when TF changes course.

You need 360 degree cover, thus, don't set arc tor ship planes.

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RE: floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/15/2012 9:32:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

You guys should know that arcs are not relative to TF course...so..setting arc will potentially hurt you when TF changes course.

You need 360 degree cover, thus, don't set arc tor ship planes.


I just assumed the arc had nothing to do with TF course. I figured it was always "0 degrees = North, 90 degrees = East, 180 degrees South and 270 degrees = West". Is that correct?

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RE: floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/16/2012 5:43:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icedawg

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

You guys should know that arcs are not relative to TF course...so..setting arc will potentially hurt you when TF changes course.

You need 360 degree cover, thus, don't set arc tor ship planes.


I just assumed the arc had nothing to do with TF course. I figured it was always "0 degrees = North, 90 degrees = East, 180 degrees South and 270 degrees = West". Is that correct?

Correct.

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RE: floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/16/2012 9:06:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Indeed..but when your TF changes course, your planes still search towards arc you have set. This can have potentially bad consequences, leaving less search cover to other directions.

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RE: floatplanes in FTs and search - 8/18/2012 10:20:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I tend to set those with shorter range on ASW.

Also, since they can be targetted by enemy flak, and CAP, I generally set them above enemy AAMG range (9000-10000), and even higher, when they are nearby enemy CAPped base

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