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ORIGINAL: dr.hal

If you train at low altitude, then the "low N" for navigation I believe kicks in....

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

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ORIGINAL: dr.hal

If you train at low altitude, then the "low N" for navigation I believe kicks in....

Low N means, low naval attack. I don't think it has anything to do with navigation.

You don't want to use or train DB pilots for low N as they will not dive bomb at levels below 6k. However, I train my torpedo bombers in both torpedo skill and low naval. Before they get decent torpedoes or even late war vs fast small ships such as DDs they are much more effective using 500 pound bombs at low levels. It is a trade off because you are giving up the lethal effect of the torpedo for lesser bomb damage but I think it its worth it.

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Altitude does not matter much for TBs as long as they carry torpedoes. They drop to 200ft during final release.

Dive bombers only dive-bomb when set 10-15k. Both type of planes get checked against AA twice, at approach altitude and release altitude. For TBs, latter is 200ft, for DBs generally between 2-4k, depending skill.

Putting CV DBs and TBs at same altitude increases the chance of coordinated strike. For US planes, optimal would be 15k, since DBs do not dive bomb if set above that (good hint when attacking airfields, to avoid getting into low level AA).

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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Altitude does not matter much for TBs as long as they carry torpedoes. They drop to 200ft during final release.

Dive bombers only dive-bomb when set 10-15k. Both type of planes get checked against AA twice, at approach altitude and release altitude. For TBs, latter is 200ft, for DBs generally between 2-4k, depending skill.

Putting CV DBs and TBs at same altitude increases the chance of coordinated strike. For US planes, optimal would be 15k, since DBs do not dive bomb if set above that (good hint when attacking airfields, to avoid getting into low level AA).

I thought DB do not dive bomb over 14k? I have always wondered this when setting secondary attack to Airfield, and my planes are all at 13k...I really don't want them to dive bomb for the secondary attack (Airfield).. but if I set them to 15k...they won't dive bomb during their primary attack (Naval attack)

I guess I could always try a small scenario to answer this..but..

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There is a 1000 foot gap in each in the FAQ and to me the opposite seems true according to my combat reports (10k is still level). Its a good question
2 turns both Naval attacks
10k
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb*

15k
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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ORIGINAL: Balou

Thanks to all of you for your input. The initial question was: DB and TB training. So,

1. set training of DB and TB to 10-15k, naval attack

2. set same combat altitude in TF for DB and TB(chance of coordinated strike)
-never below 10k (horizontal attack, no dive bombing of DB)
-never below 1k (low level, no dive bombing)
-never above 15k (glide bombing, no dive bombing)

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ORIGINAL: mullk

I think if you set DB or TB for naval attack training they practice bombing. To get TB to practice torp attacks I believe you need to set altitude to 100 feet otherwise they practice bombing style naval attacks. Set them and watch pilot skills to see if they are increasing where you want them to.

As far as naval attack I set all mine to 15k. DB seem to dive bomb, TB torp bomb. Unless everything including fighters are set at the same altitude your strikes will be piece meal.

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

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ORIGINAL: mullk

I think if you set DB or TB for naval attack training they practice bombing. To get TB to practice torp attacks I believe you need to set altitude to 100 feet otherwise they practice bombing style naval attacks. Set them and watch pilot skills to see if they are increasing where you want them to.

As far as naval attack I set all mine to 15k. DB seem to dive bomb, TB torp bomb. Unless everything including fighters are set at the same altitude your strikes will be piece meal.

No, you don't have to set them to 100 feet to train for torpedo attack. In fact they might gain fatigue and lose morale faster at this level. You only need to set them to train for naval attack at any height and make sure you have them set to "use torpedoes" while traingin. That is all. I train mine at 5,000 feet only because that is the default setting.