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Left handed player - 8/1/2012 2:14:06 PM   
tydan

 

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Status: offline 		Hi,
I'm left-handed, my W7 is configured for that (I mean the mouse configuration), but it seems that the game doesn't take this into account. Very disturbing. I don't see anything in the options panel. Any ideas ?
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RE: Left handed player - 8/1/2012 2:27:32 PM   
junk2drive


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From: Arizona West Coast
Status: offline 		I have my mouse on the left of my keyboard with the right button as left click and have not had a problem. Is it a mouse click problem or a keyboard hotkey issue?

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RE: Left handed player - 8/1/2012 8:16:07 PM   
ericbabe


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Status: offline 		I don't know much about customization and mouse-driver / Win7-setting issues. It seems that some people are able to use their custom settings with "Conflict of Heroes." That others may not be able to do may simply be a matter of the particular driver involved.

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RE: Left handed player - 9/14/2012 10:37:03 PM   
tydan

 

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Status: offline 		Going back ... I've read your advices, and then installed/updated my mice drivers both on my PC/laptop. On my PC, I use a Razor Krait; on the laptop, an old logitech V500.
Same results . BTW, only in-game buttons and menu are inverted, the included manual from the menu is ok.

So I've looked at the XNA framework. It seems that a implementation needs to be done to take into account left-handed player
ref : xboxforums.create.msdn.com/forums/t/77445.aspx

I am convinced it has to do with XNA, because I bought a few years ago another game (War Plan Pacific -oups, not a matrix game ) also implemented with xna, and I had the same problem (with other pcs, other mice).

Please, the Dev, could you have a look at this ;)

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RE: Left handed player - 9/16/2012 7:55:17 PM   
ericbabe


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Status: offline 		Thanks for looking into this. I'll take a look and see whether I can check for that registry value. The mouse polling is a bit distributed throughout the program, so before reviewing the code I'm not confident of opining on whether changing all mouse behavior is a reasonable task for me to undertake or not, but it may be possible.

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RE: Left handed player - 9/17/2012 11:00:05 AM   
tydan

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for your reply.
Hope it will be possible ...
Last night I play another game with right controls in my left hand.
Very frustating when I want to click on the map to deselect a unit, and it turns wrong changing the facing of the unit.
My brain is upside down

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RE: Left handed player - 11/1/2012 4:19:54 AM   
junk2drive


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Status: offline 		I upgraded to Win8 and now have this problem too.

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RE: Left handed player - 12/22/2012 12:30:15 AM   
tydan

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the lastest update. Seems great ... but so bad you couldn't take into account the left handed players problem.
Do you think it could be possible ... one day

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RE: Left handed player - 12/22/2012 1:18:30 AM   
junk2drive


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From: Arizona West Coast
Status: offline 		For years I shared a computer and had to use the right hand. When I got my own I eventually moved the mouse to the left but was afraid to switch the buttons. I used the middle finger to left click and index finger to right click. One day I took the plunge and switched keys. Now with CoH I sometimes move the mouse and sometimes just try to remember what is what. Stranger than that is the settings and MP windows are for left handed mouse and my brain has to go back and forth. At almost 60 this is getting tough.

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RE: Left handed player - 12/22/2012 2:30:34 PM   
tydan

 

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Status: offline 		Yes it is, even in the forties . But right hand players can't understand .

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RE: Left handed player - 12/24/2012 1:21:30 AM   
ericbabe


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Status: offline 		It's possible one day that we might find a way to change this behavior.

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RE: Left handed player - 12/24/2012 5:15:14 PM   
junk2drive


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Status: offline 		That would be nice but I understand that it is not a simple fix.

Meanwhile I just went nuts going back and forth with my login and administrator login that is right handed and the game that is right handed but the in game popups are not and...

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Conflict of Heroes "Most games are like checkers or chess and some have dice and cards involved too. This game plays like checkers but you think like chess and the dice and cards can change everything in real time."

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RE: Left handed player - 12/25/2012 1:48:39 PM   
junk2drive


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Joined: 6/27/2002
From: Arizona West Coast
Status: offline 		My mouse is an older MS comfort optical 3000. It is USB with a PS2 adapter. When I got it, my USB was 1.1 and PS2 was preferred. For W8 the PS2 is not supported and I had to use the old driver. This morning I decided to switch to USB and use the new driver. Guess what, my game is normal now.

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Conflict of Heroes "Most games are like checkers or chess and some have dice and cards involved too. This game plays like checkers but you think like chess and the dice and cards can change everything in real time."

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RE: Left handed player - 12/27/2012 10:28:32 PM   
tydan

 

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Status: offline 		I succeded to solve my problem with Autokey program (do a google search)
Configure your mouse as a right-handed user -important-, then install Autokey, and use this script to switch from right to left handed player -with Ctrl+Alt+L- : 
#NoEnv
#KeyHistory 0
#SingleInstance force

SetBatchLines, -1
ListLines, Off
SetMouseDelay, -1

Suspend, On
LButton::RButton
RButton::LButton

^!l::
Suspend, Toggle
return

I can now play with all my XNA games (CoH, terraria, War plan Pacific) as a "REAL" left handed player

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RE: Left handed player - 12/28/2012 12:38:26 AM   
junk2drive


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Joined: 6/27/2002
From: Arizona West Coast
Status: offline 		I think you mean AutoHotKey. I have used it with a few games. Good for WASD on the number pad keys.

You can add a line to exit with the Esc key.

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Conflict of Heroes "Most games are like checkers or chess and some have dice and cards involved too. This game plays like checkers but you think like chess and the dice and cards can change everything in real time."

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RE: Left handed player - 12/29/2012 7:13:06 AM   
tydan

 

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Status: offline 		Yes, AutoHotKey I meant

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