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skilled Nav Search v novice ASW - 7/31/2012 5:05:10 PM   
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If planes have high NS but low ASW is it better to fly them as say 2-3k rather than use low asw values?
We are talking about killing subs - esp early war for Japs

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RE: skilled Nav Search v novice ASW - 7/31/2012 7:58:08 PM   
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My understanding, which seems to hold true under actual play, is the following:

ASW = How well aircraft see subs.

NavSearch = How well aircraft see ships.

NavAttack/Torpedo = Ability to hit ships/subs above 1000 ft.

LowNav = Ability to hit ships/subs @ 1000 ft.


If that's wrong I'd sure like to know so I can alter training accordingly.

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RE: skilled Nav Search v novice ASW - 7/31/2012 11:01:26 PM   
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Naval search = spotting task forces. Every single submarine sent out in a patrol is put into a task force hence the submarine can be spotted by aircraft assigned a naval search mission.

ASW= searches only for submarine task forces. By specialising in this activity the odds are considerably improved that submarine task forces will be spotted and attacked.

Naval attack = attacks spotted non submarine task forces

Low naval attack = same as Naval attack mission except that bombersw approach target below 6000 feet. Unless employing Attack Bombers there are significant penalties associated.

There is no consensus as to what constitutes the best height for any search/anti-sub mission. Early in the war the Allied player lack both sufficiently trained pilots and suitable aircraft to have high expectations of achieving significant kills.

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RE: skilled Nav Search v novice ASW - 8/1/2012 12:22:39 AM   
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I run naval search from 1 to 2 k as standard operating procedure for quite some time because of the longer legs and I spot plenty of subs. Of course I have no scientific detail on how many I'd spot if they were trained in ASW. Besides a Chutai or two I quit training ASW to remove some of the clutter.

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RE: skilled Nav Search v novice ASW - 8/1/2012 9:43:28 AM   
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At start, japanese players have pilots with higher exp then allies. I don't know the exact formulas, but i am pretty sure exp can overcome low skills. A unit with 40-42 exp and around 70 ASW skill isn't as good as a unit with 50-55 exp and around 50 ASW skill.

As an allied player is use the plane ASW patrols mainly to spot subs and use DD ASW TFs with high naval commanders (all ships) and a TF commander with high naval and agressive rating to go after the spotted subs. Don't(!) use max reacting range, or your agressive commander starts to run from spotted sub to spotted sub all over the map.

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