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The green triangle and other mysterious things - 7/24/2012 7:30:04 PM   
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Someone explain the meaning "defense" on the popup window for the troops to me please.
Not the specific values ​​of hard-, respectively Soft defense.
I talking about the green triangle.
What should, what can we do with it?

Other:
Russian infantry has the exact the same fight / defense values ​​as the infantry of the German Wehrmacht.
Well, if it serves the gameplay.





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RE: The green triangle and other mysterious things - 7/24/2012 10:46:31 PM   
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Yeah, I can't find anything about it in the manual either but I would assume that the green triangle defense rating is the survivability of the unit and the red ratings are the ability of the unit to deal damage to enemy units while defending. At least then most of the stats would make sense to me.

About Russian infantry: I don't think that is so unreasonable, if we go down to the individual level - the worse performance of the Russian units can be reflected otherwise, for example with morale, officer rating, support weapons in each division etc.

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RE: The green triangle and other mysterious things - 7/24/2012 11:38:29 PM   
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I posted a question a few days ago on this topic but haven't received any replies; lots of views but no replies. I PM'd Vic about it because I am also confused, although ALEX0809's comments seem to make sense. If Vic doesn't post an answer to my PM in the forum, alll post an answer here.

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Other mysterious things - 7/25/2012 2:13:46 AM   
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In the detailed battle report will appear two columns under "Individual List".
How these columns are to be interpreted?





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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/25/2012 4:16:02 AM   
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I believe column 1 refers to a unit's status at the beginning of the combat round and column 2 refers to the unit's status at the end of the combat round.

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/25/2012 10:27:10 AM   
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Basically combat on individual to individual basis is randomized attack score versus randomized defense score. If attack ends up higher the attacking individual scores a hit.

If attack or defense score is indicated with 2 values like 100/50 it means the first value is used by the side thats on the offensive (trying to take the hex) and the second by the side thats on the defensive (trying to hold the hex).

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/26/2012 1:46:42 AM   
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What does a solid horizontal bar at the bottom of the unit counter indicate?
When you have an HQ highlighted what does the button to the right of the tab that shows how many Commnd Point mean? There is a + symbol in it.

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/26/2012 5:16:50 PM   
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That would be how many command points the officer regains per round, I assume.

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/26/2012 6:18:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Appren

That would be how many command points the officer regains per round, I assume.


Thanks.

Any idea on the horizontal bar on the unit counters?

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/26/2012 6:33:49 PM   
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I believe that bar only appears on artillery units. Ammo stockpiles?

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/26/2012 6:38:21 PM   
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I agree with Cleveland. Just I've tried to fire a barrage and shooting unit turned bar from green to yellow.

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/27/2012 2:36:55 AM   
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^^ That seems to be it.Thanks.

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Other mysterious things - 7/28/2012 12:54:58 AM   
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The Russian 295th Rifle Division is selected.
Recon on the hex is 1300.
Why is the unit integrity on the bar on the counter on the map and on the counter in the unit base info area different in heights and has a different color?
It's the same division!

This is now an enemy division, but it also happens to my counters!
And that issue does not happen always!





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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/28/2012 1:40:38 AM   
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I've wondered the same thing re: the unit integrity colors..

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/28/2012 8:13:50 AM   
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I think is the opposite, now you can see a guard unit with good recon, different height/color and it seems more strong:





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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/28/2012 8:16:34 AM   
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Now, no good recon but its height/color is pretty correct, I think a reversed FOW.




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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/28/2012 11:36:45 AM   
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Re: your first screen, any idea why there is a difference in integrity bar color From the main screen (red) and the unit base info (blue)?

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/28/2012 1:24:31 PM   
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I think the bar color should be reversed, I mean if I don't have enough recon points then I should see the blue bar otherwise I should see the red one.
The main screen bar should be the correct one.

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Color an hight of the bar - 7/28/2012 2:30:39 PM   
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Check color an hight of the bar from the German 23rd Panzer Division, PZ Regiment and also from the German Motorized Engineer Corps.

I am in the same round and there were no attacks between these two images!




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German U-.Boots are impressive - 7/28/2012 9:41:50 PM   
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If I ever want to attack a city or a village, my submarines get 100% Att-Mod!

Good to know.





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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/29/2012 12:16:40 PM   
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@Templer & Sniper

Will be fixed with patch 2. Actually the bars are the same height, but a 3 color coding system is used on the big counter and a 4-color coding scheme is used on the small counter.

Basically its a graphic glitch, has no repercussions on game calculations or actual stats.

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RE: Other mysterious things - 7/29/2012 1:39:19 PM   
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As for the ammo stockpile (which I assume the bar on arty units is), how big is the effect on the unit if you launch a barrage without the bar being in the full green? Or does it only matter that you don't completely empty the bar, in which case the unit will have depleted their stocks completely?

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Other mysterious things - 8/2/2012 3:50:42 AM   
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I read somewere on this forum 'MX-ENTR' stand for maximum entrenchment.
Here the blackboard says 'MX-ENTR' 200.

But in fact it is 253!
So what's going on here?





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RE: Other mysterious things - 8/2/2012 4:15:18 AM   
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I want to piggyback off your screenshot. I mentioned this in another post. Look at the Inf CROSS-RIV for Combat (50/40/20/30). And look at the Inf CROSS-RIV for Movetype (40/30/10/20).

These should be the exact opposite. The Movetype is correct (VOLGA/MAJOR/MEDIUM/MINOR) because the cost to cross goes up. The COMBAT ones are not correct because in COMBAT, the exact opposite is true in that in COMBAT the higher the number the less penalty (INFANTRY in Forested Mountain are 100) and the lesser the number the greater the penalty (GUNS in Forested Mountain is 20).

With that said, look at the cross-river calculation (50/40/20/10), it gives the VOLGA a 50 and a minor river a 20, so it is exactly the opposite of what it should be. I cross-reference this effect in the COMBAT DETAILS and I could not correlate ANY of the RIVER numbers to what is in the HEX screenshot above . I will place that in a different post.

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RE: Other mysterious things - 8/2/2012 12:59:33 PM   
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quote:

But in fact it is 253!
So what's going on here?


I think fortifications bonus.



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RE: Other mysterious things - 8/2/2012 1:38:44 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

But in fact it is 253!
So what's going on here?


I think fortifications bonus.




No i think its mistaken recon. I note on the screenshot the enemy positions are being surveyed with FOW on.

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A mistaken recon? - 8/2/2012 6:26:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Blind Sniper

quote:

But in fact it is 253!
So what's going on here?


I think fortifications bonus.





No i think its mistaken recon. I note on the screenshot the enemy positions are being surveyed with FOW on.

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A mistaken recon?
How can this be, when you know that the position / hex does not allow more than 200?

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RE: A mistaken recon? - 8/2/2012 6:43:40 PM   
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full recon is around 700 iirc. low recon points tend to make ennemy units weakerthan they are.

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Bombers intercept? - 8/4/2012 9:28:16 AM   
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My bombers have a interception setting?

Very interesting, very exciting, very strange.
Who or what will my bombers intercept?




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RE: Bombers intercept? - 8/4/2012 4:54:13 PM   
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What type of bombers were these, Templer? Fighter-bombers, or level bombers, or dive bombers? Maybe they aren't so much "intercepting" as providing close air support, on defense?

I'm pretty sure I've seen enemy bombers "intercept" me. If they're providing close air support, maybe that's okay.

I hope Vic can explain what's going on here, as I'm curious too.

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