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Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 3:33:42 PM   
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Is it possible to modify counter color, not the HQ grouping color, but the color of the counters themselves...I'm not really fond of the deep purple Guards color and would like to modify it...if it is possible, please point me to the file that needs modification, I've been unable to locate it thus far.

Thanks in Advance, and thanks to redmarkus4, and krupp for their works so far, and to Vic for his support of the modding community.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 3:37:33 PM   
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Yeah, I was looking to do the same thing. I prefer flatter colors. I couldn't find any counters in any of the files.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 3:44:37 PM   
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You have to change them in the scenario file. Base colors can be changed in regime window, some colors can be changed in people window and to make matters more complex some color adjustments can be changed in the historical units window.

I'll consider the subject for an editor tutorial.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 6:37:52 PM   
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Gents. Please post examples of the counter colors you like (maybe from other games) and I will mod them for you in the Fall Blau scenario we are working on now.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 6:42:42 PM   
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Here's what I like-

http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Enamel/Testors/Enamels/Flat-Red/Flat-Red.html

http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Acrylic/Testors/Model/Grey/Grey.html

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 6:46:20 PM   
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Yes, those look good.

I was thinking maybe:

1. The Grey for the Wehrmacht
2. Light Brown for the Soviets
3. Your Red for Guards units


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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 6:53:13 PM   
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Cool.


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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 7:27:08 PM   
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I'm a fan of MMP/The Gamers OCS series...here is what it looks like they use (in CMYK)

Russian 18 35 73 0 (they use an orange red for guards...I like the Red mentioned above)
Wermacht 20 16 26 0
Italian 35 0 20 3
Rumanian 18.5 0 100 18.5
Hungarian 60 27 20 0
Cossack (Ost Truppen) 0 0 30 0



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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 7:45:09 PM   
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The Wehrmacht should likely to be lighter gray!

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/24/2012 9:51:40 PM   
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OK, editing the color scheme is non-trivial. 50% is done in the Editor but the Army and Korps colors (which need to match the base color) are edited by the player in game mode. So far, I can't see a place to edit those in the Editor.

This means that I can only Mod the basic colors and recommend changes to be made by the players. Also, if playing the AI, you can't edit the colors of the other side...

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/25/2012 2:01:56 AM   
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While you're modding the colors any chance you can also mod the NATO symbols to correctly depict the unit type within the Divisions?

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/25/2012 5:51:08 AM   
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I figured how to mod the colors fully in the Editor, so players won't need to make any changes to the HQ schema, although they still can if they wish.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/25/2012 5:51:40 AM   
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While you're modding the colors any chance you can also mod the NATO symbols to correctly depict the unit type within the Divisions?


Please post a graphic explaining exactly what it is you're looking for.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/25/2012 1:57:36 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arinvald

While you're modding the colors any chance you can also mod the NATO symbols to correctly depict the unit type within the Divisions?


Please post a graphic explaining exactly what it is you're looking for.



I simply would like all Regiments to have the NATO symbol that represents their type and not the NATO symbol of their Division. At high resolutions and zoom the "A" and "Pz" can be hard to see.

This would depict:

Infantry Divisions with three Regiments with the Infantry NATO symbol and one Regiment with the Artillery NATO symbol and Mechanized Infantry Regiments within an Armor Division to have a Mechanized Infantry NATO symbol instead of the Armor NATO symbol and so forth . It sounds like from what Vic has said that it is a matter of changing the designation of the units in the Editor. So for instance, every unit with an A designating it as Artillery would have its NATO symbol changed from its Divisional type to the actual NATO Artillery symbol. Not sure how to depict this graphically.






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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/25/2012 2:06:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arinvald


quote:

ORIGINAL: redmarkus4


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arinvald

While you're modding the colors any chance you can also mod the NATO symbols to correctly depict the unit type within the Divisions?


Please post a graphic explaining exactly what it is you're looking for.



I simply would like all Regiments to have the NATO symbol that represents their type and not the NATO symbol of their Division. At high resolutions and zoom the "A" and "Pz" can be hard to see.

This would depict:

Infantry Divisions with three Regiments with the Infantry NATO symbol and one Regiment with the Artillery NATO symbol and Mechanized Infantry Regiments within an Armor Division to have a Mechanized Infantry NATO symbol instead of the Armor NATO symbol and so forth . It sounds like from what Vic has said that it is a matter of changing the designation of the units in the Editor. So for instance, every unit with an A designating it as Artillery would have its NATO symbol changed from its Divisional type to the actual NATO Artillery symbol. Not sure how to depict this graphically.








I think I could easily change this, but it will have to wait till maybe weekend or next week, unless someone else wants to do it.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/25/2012 2:15:42 PM   
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Go for it!

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/25/2012 2:24:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: krupp_88mm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arinvald


quote:

ORIGINAL: redmarkus4


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arinvald

While you're modding the colors any chance you can also mod the NATO symbols to correctly depict the unit type within the Divisions?


Please post a graphic explaining exactly what it is you're looking for.



I simply would like all Regiments to have the NATO symbol that represents their type and not the NATO symbol of their Division. At high resolutions and zoom the "A" and "Pz" can be hard to see.

This would depict:

Infantry Divisions with three Regiments with the Infantry NATO symbol and one Regiment with the Artillery NATO symbol and Mechanized Infantry Regiments within an Armor Division to have a Mechanized Infantry NATO symbol instead of the Armor NATO symbol and so forth . It sounds like from what Vic has said that it is a matter of changing the designation of the units in the Editor. So for instance, every unit with an A designating it as Artillery would have its NATO symbol changed from its Divisional type to the actual NATO Artillery symbol. Not sure how to depict this graphically.








I think I could easily change this, but it will have to wait till maybe weekend or next week, unless someone else wants to do it.



That would be much appreciated. You and Redmarkus are really great assets for this game and the efforts of both of you are outstanding. If you could do this anytime next week I would be thrilled. Just don't skip jury duty and get in trouble.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/25/2012 3:14:03 PM   
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I figured how to mod the colors fully in the Editor, so players won't need to make any changes to the HQ schema, although they still can if they wish.


CLARIFICATION

Unit colors are set inside each scenario by the scenario designer or by a modder. OUR MAP MODS WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR UNIT COUNTERS - ONLY EDITED SCENARIOS CAN DO THIS. New unit colors inside one edited scenario have zero effect on the colors in your other scenarios.

When playing the game, a player can ALSO edit the HQ and Sub-unit group colors (the little stripe on the left of each unit) as they wish.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/30/2012 8:32:57 PM   
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Redmarkus, could you give a brief "how to" on changing counter colors...I've had no luck sorting it out in the editor.

Thanks in advance and thanks for your modding efforts

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/30/2012 9:38:37 PM   
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OK...

First, to change the background color for a whole Regime (e.g. Soviets etc.) select Regime from the Editor menu and click the button shown here. Your color chart will pop up and you choose the desired color.




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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/30/2012 9:42:03 PM   
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To change the background color for a specific people within a Regime (e.g. SS, Cossacks, Romanians, etc.) click the Ppl button and then the color button...




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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/30/2012 9:46:01 PM   
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To edit the color of a specific historical unit Type (e.g. Guards Rifle Division), click the 'His' button, select the unit type from the list and click the Color button...




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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/30/2012 9:50:02 PM   
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To change the on-map side bar color of an HQ unit:

1. Click the Units button.

2. Locate the HQ unit

3. Make sure 'HQ = True'.

4. Select the desired side bar color.




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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/31/2012 1:50:08 AM   
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Thanks for your help. Am I right in my impression that there is some blending of people, regime, and unit color?

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/31/2012 6:37:31 AM   
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Thanks for your help. Am I right in my impression that there is some blending of people, regime, and unit color?


I am not sure about the blending - I haven't used these features much.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/31/2012 6:38:06 AM   
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Maybe after you play with this you can post your findings here? It would be useful to learn more.

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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/31/2012 3:51:00 PM   
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My blending comment resulted from reading some of the dialogs and the fact that I couldn't get guards colors to change.

So what I did was try and work through it logically (ha!)

I first set the regime color to white which resulted in the light grey you see in the pic. The Guards units (highlighted) came out green




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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/31/2012 3:53:59 PM   
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I left the people color at the default (-1,-1,-1) for the soviets which does not (as I understand it) modify the counter color...note highlighted text. My understanding from reading the menu is that changing the people for Guards only changes graphix???? there was no change to the green guards




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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/31/2012 4:01:09 PM   
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Finally, I changed the Historical units color for Guards Cav Corps (see image). Dialogs indicate that this should modify the people color by modifying the RGB settings of that color...the screenie is from when I set it at 0,0,0, but I set it to a couple of values (-255,-255,-255) and (255,255,255) with no change to the green Guards color...

I'm at a loss as to the next step...Vic?




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RE: Modifying Counter Color - 7/31/2012 11:50:58 PM   
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OK, I got it sorted out...changing the MODEL color in the Hist tab doesn't change the color, you must change the individual formations. The modification adjusts the regime color (I believe) but possible the People color as well.

Here is a first stab, light brown Russians, Red Guards...I'm not sure the brown works for me, but I like my Guards Red!




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