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TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 11:35:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have not found an explanation for the OnMap Weather Symbols in TOAW 3.4.
What do they stand for?
Terry




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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 11:47:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: terry1040

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have not found an explanation for the OnMap Weather Symbols in TOAW 3.4.
What do they stand for?
Terry




The level of cloud coverage and precipitation.

Klink, Oberst

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 11:57:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the quick reply.
Ok, but how does the big dark cloud differ from the small one?
And more important: What is their effect in the game? I asume they effect each hex where they appear.
Is that big, black, rain cloud worse then the small, grey rain?
How much?
Any concrete figures out there?
Terry

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 12:46:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: terry1040

Thanks for the quick reply.
Ok, but how does the big dark cloud differ from the small one?
And more important: What is their effect in the game? I asume they effect each hex where they appear.
Is that big, black, rain cloud worse then the small, grey rain?
How much?
Any concrete figures out there?
Terry

The severity; the big clouds are storms and the black big one a b*gger of a heavy thunderstorm. Try flying in those conditions or watch the terrain chance to mud :)

Klink, Oberst

P.S. Bob *below* got the 100% answer. And yeah, I tried to locate the info in the manual, apparently to no avail.

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 3:27:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: terry1040

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have not found an explanation for the OnMap Weather Symbols in TOAW 3.4.
What do they stand for?
Terry





The puffy clouds make the hex Overcast. The thin clouds make the hex Hazy. No cloud means the hex is Clear.

The precipitation is rain for the dark version, snow for the white version (temperature determines which is shown). And there is a version without precipitation.

Overcast and hazy conditions affect air attack strengths, and recon from peak hexes. Precipitation can cause snow or mud to occur on the ground.

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 7:53:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ahhh. that makes it more clear.
Any idea what the numeric effect is in the game?
For example:
How much do Hazy conditions lower the Mountain Peak visibility?
Terry

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 8:28:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: terry1040

Ahhh. that makes it more clear.
Any idea what the numeric effect is in the game?
For example:
How much do Hazy conditions lower the Mountain Peak visibility?
Terry


Visibility is a value based upon the combination of weather x lighting: clear/hazy/overcast x day/mixed/night. Clear is 1, hazy is .66, and overcast is .33. Day is 1, mixed is .66, and night is .33. So attacking an overcast hex at night would be done at strength x .11. (Note that Mixed visibility occurs on all turns of full-day or longer).

Overcast blocks recon from peak hexes. Clear allows it (to 40km). I don't remember about hazy. Do a test and see.

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 8:29:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

P.S. Bob *below* got the 100% answer. And yeah, I tried to locate the info in the manual, apparently to no avail.


It's not in the manual, but it's come up in 3.5 work.

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 8:53:07 PM   
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Visibility is a value based upon the combination of weather x lighting: clear/hazy/overcast x day/mixed/night. Clear is 1, hazy is .66, and overcast is .33. Day is 1, mixed is .66, and night is .33. So attacking an overcast hex at night would be done at strength x .11. (Note that Mixed visibility occurs on all turns of full-day or longer).
Overcast blocks recon from peak hexes. Clear allows it (to 40km). I don't remember about hazy. Do a test and see.


Does that combat modifier only affect Air Combat or also ground assaults?
Terry

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 10:17:08 PM   
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Does that combat modifier only affect Air Combat or also ground assaults?
Terry


Air bombardments are affected. Ground combat is not.

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/22/2012 11:40:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: terry1040

Does that combat modifier only affect Air Combat or also ground assaults?
Terry


Air bombardments are affected. Ground combat is not.


Not quite. Anti-Armor combat is.

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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/23/2012 6:33:53 AM   
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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/23/2012 6:35:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the other graphic. Both of these should probably say 'snow' instead of 'rain' for the 'frozen' ones.




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RE: TOAW 3.4 - OnMap Weather Symbols - 7/31/2012 4:55:39 PM   
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Overcast blocks recon from peak hexes. Clear allows it (to 40km). I don't remember about hazy. Do a test and see.


Just checked: Hazy blocks recon from peak hexes as well.

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