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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:06:27 AM   
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The broadcaster here (who is doing it for the first time and paid a pile to win the rights from the previous one) is starting to freak out because Australia usually gets off to a great start with the swimming and even though the medals dry up a bit in the second week, that usually keeps the ratings up. It hasn't happened this time and additionally the time difference means that a lot of the action is on during the graveyard shift.

As has been noted with the U.S. coverage, the broadcasters have morphed into virtual cheer-squads, and when the results aren't good that grates with the public. At least the Aussie coverage are making noises about not just focusing on our athletes. NBC, it seems, hasn't bothered with any of that nonsense

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:39:32 AM   
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Well Neilster,

If nothing else u got some thing to be proud of:
http://www.london2012.com/athlete/barnard-elisa-1057939/

Cutie!

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 2:29:43 PM   
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And the first danish medal.... Silver in Skeet shooting. Gratz Anders Golding.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 3:57:46 PM   
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As has been noted with the U.S. coverage, the broadcasters have morphed into virtual cheer-squads, and when the results aren't good that grates with the public. At least the Aussie coverage are making noises about not just focusing on our athletes. NBC, it seems, hasn't bothered with any of that nonsense

Cheers, Neilster



The American network NBC shouldn't need to bother with equal coverage for non-American athletes any moreso than the Australian networks would cover the Cambodian or Togan athletes writ large. As far as broadcasters turning into cheer squads, I've got no beef with the American broadcasters being biased in their POV.

I've got "X" amount of time to watch / follow the Olympics. I want 0.9 X of that time to be on my country's athletic events and participants. I'll select the balance of the 0.1 X from the full real-time feed (often devoid of announcers at all) of the different events (e.g., women's archery semi-finals) that may not involve Americans.

If you REALLY want subjective emotional fanboi-ism, look no farther than the Russian, Chinese or French televised coverage. I haven't seen any of the Australian network coverage, so can't speak to that.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 4:02:22 PM   
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American shooters put up another fine stand and get the Gold. Total medals for PRC and USA still tied at 18 apiece.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 5:03:55 PM   
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I've an interest in Australian athletes but too often we are subjected to some pretty average performances to the exclusion of the best ones simply because of the focus on the Australians. I actually think sports fans here are a bit more sophisticated than that, especially the sort who are watching after midnight.

I notice a lot of Americans think the NBC coverage is poor, jingoistic and trying to operate a time-warp where events take place hours after they actually do.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 7:04:57 PM   
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Commenating is one thing I guess we can do right. The BBC coverage is always very even handed - and for expert analysis they always seek real experts - not some cheerleader for the home team - McEnroe, Thorpedo, Johnson etc.

We do have the occasional lapse, but generally it's all very fair. Perhaps the most famous lapse was the excellent Barry Davies, commentating on the Britain vs Germany hockey final in 1988. GB had scored, having gone through the German defence like a knife through butter. When the goal was replayed he said "where were the Germans? ...frankly who cares"....

After years of being stuffed by the Germans, I think he can be forgiven

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 7:20:17 PM   
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The net is alive with ways of getting the BBC stream in the U.S. in protest at NBC's lockout of live net unless you're a cable subscriber.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 7:35:00 PM   
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I notice a lot of Americans think the NBC coverage is poor, jingoistic and trying to operate a time-warp where events take place hours after they actually do.


Meh. I think you'll hear the same comments going back some 20 years for American coverage of the Olympics. You can't please all people all of the time.

Were they to try to please those viewers wanting broader coverage (did you see the knockout performance of that Qatar shooting competitor to capture the bronze?), they would lose most American's viewership. I suspect that NBC's approach is highly correlated with the 'average' fan's interest base and very carefully directed towards that more 'casual' audience.

Jingoistic? Show me one nation's national television coverage that isn't disproportionately geared towards the exploits of their own athletes. I'll show you a television network that is losing their domestic audience.


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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 7:38:26 PM   
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we are subjected to some pretty average performances to the exclusion of the best ones simply because of the focus on the Australians.


Sounds like a viewership issue you need to address with the Australian networks then. My guess is if they alienate the viewing demands of too many of their viewers, they'd quickly be brought to task for their coverage.

Alternatively if most Australians like to focus on...the Australians...then the national networks are doing it right by their viewers. Those niche customers that want 'the best athletes regardless of nationality' are probably (intentionally) on their own for filling in the bits of their viewing demands.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 7:43:00 PM   
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Question?  In men and women's floor volleyball, why is one person on each team in different teams colors?

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 7:48:08 PM   
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How about that US women's gymnastics Olympics squad? Taking team gold. Well done, ladies! Well done!

Now on to the individual all-around competitions. C'mon Aby and Gaby!

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 7:48:17 PM   
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Question?  In men and women's floor volleyball, why is one person on each team in different teams colors?

They are the libero, a specialised defensive player that was introduced in 1998. There are special rules involving what they can do.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 7:49:38 PM   
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Neilster beat me too it but for a fuller explanation.

The libero wears a different shirt because the ref needs to quickly be able to tell who they are. The libero is restricted to back row play but also cannot attack the ball while it is above the plane of the net, nor can they hand set the ball to be attacked while standing inside the 3m (10ft line). The libero can come in for as many as two positions in the rotation and usually they come in for middle hitters because they are big and have a harder time getting low enough to make consistent passes or dig the ball. Only recently have they been allowed to serve, but only for one of the positions they come in for. The reason they cannot set or hit is to prevent specialization in those areas and have them in the whole game, bypassing the rotation system.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:00:32 PM   
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Thanks guys, I didn't know that.  I thought they were the team captains.  Alot more to it than I knew.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:14:05 PM   
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Good showing in swimming this afternoon. Team USA has tied the lead shared with PRC: combined 23 medals.

The US 4x200m men's freestyle just smoked the competition. Michael Phelps becomes the winningest Olympian in history with a great team performance. PRC edged out the Germans by 0.5 seconds for the bronze. France took silver.

ETA: German performance to date (equestrian medals notwithstanding) has been quite underwhelming. The Japanese are doing particularly well.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:23:41 PM   
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Busy booking a trip to London.

Unbelievable what prices they are charging to watch the events. No idea what I'm going to see, Gf is busy with her dad on other pc booking.


But I fear I must postpone some eager awaited games.


Mat

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:24:03 PM   
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Congratulations Michael Phelps


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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:25:05 PM   
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Busy booking a trip to London.

Unbelievable what prices they are charging to watch the events. No idea what I'm going to see, Gf is busy with her dad on other pc booking.


But I fear I must postpone some eager awaited games.


Mat
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Good luck Mat - its a nightmare - and only the higher priced tickets seem available I am trying everyday...

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:30:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: british exil

Busy booking a trip to London.

Unbelievable what prices they are charging to watch the events. No idea what I'm going to see, Gf is busy with her dad on other pc booking.


But I fear I must postpone some eager awaited games.


Mat
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Good luck Mat - its a nightmare - and only the higher priced tickets seem available I am trying everyday...

Even more depressing when they show events with so many empty seats.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:40:58 PM   
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quote:

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Busy booking a trip to London.

Unbelievable what prices they are charging to watch the events. No idea what I'm going to see, Gf is busy with her dad on other pc booking.


But I fear I must postpone some eager awaited games.


Mat
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Good luck Mat - its a nightmare - and only the higher priced tickets seem available I am trying everyday...

Even more depressing when they show events with so many empty seats.
Warspite1

Indeed so - I don't know whether that is the IOC or London's fault, but it seems they are VIP seats that have not been taken up so assume its the former. Either way its bloody frustrating....

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:46:29 PM   
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Either way its bloody frustrating....

I feel your pain and you have my sympathies.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:50:49 PM   
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GL on finding some thing affordble guys. Redicioulus with empthy seats and then ppl cant get in.

So have the news of the female doubles badminton match between a korean and chinease couple broken at you guys yet?
Disgracefull, both couples should have been disqualified in 5 secs flat. Sorry, but u failed there organizers

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 9:58:22 PM   
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Swedish news claim that 12,000 seats were empty during Sunday's events.

A couple of pictures.



Swimming



Tennis



Volleyball

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 10:21:41 PM   
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No luck.

I was wanting to buy tickets for the so called available events but can't purchase 4!!! tickets. Willing to spend 125 pounds for 1 ticket. 500!!! for 4 people and they say no tickets!!

Flight, hotel and food and drink not calculated.

How can they expect people to come to the games?

Frustrating.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 7/31/2012 10:23:10 PM   
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I couldn't even get a flight to watch the marathon, at least I could get tickets for that venue.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 8/1/2012 12:18:12 AM   
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The empty seats is the saddest story so far IMHO. Why the organizers can't round up athlete's families and friens and let them use the seats is just plain sad.

The second saddest thing is the bad hair dye job Bob Costas is sporting. Jeez, it looks like they painted on his eyebrows with magic markers.

The most stunning sight so far, the Dutch Women's Field Hockey Team. Wowza!

http://blog.sfgate.com/olympics/2012/07/29/dutch-field-hockey-gains-worldwide-attention-for-reasons-beyond-field-hockey-photo-gallery/

Overall a good games with lots of stories. Its way better than 99% of whats on TV regularly.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 8/1/2012 7:49:22 AM   
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Swedish politicians seem to lack humour. Therefore I am now a bit envious of Great Britain since you seem to have politicians who not only have humour but actually use it. Here are some of the comments about the Olympic Games by London mayor Boris Johnson. No Swedish politician would ever be this fun.

1. Yaaay! Team GB has won some medals, as Lizzie Armitstead gets silver in the cycling road race and Rebecca Adlington wins bronze in the 400 metres freestyle. There must be every chance that we will win a few more in the next couple of weeks – in cycling, rowing, sailing and riding, all sports at which British athletes seem to excel and all of which involve sitting down.

2. We are also pretty good at events that involve actually running around and jumping over things, so we shouldn’t rule out the possibility of medals there, too.

7. The president of the International Olympic Committee, Jacques Rogge, made a truly excellent speech, in which he paid tribute to the role of Britain in either inventing or codifying the sports we celebrate at the Olympics. Only a small proportion of his speech was in French.

8. Jeremy Hunt has introduced a new sport to the Games, to go with the discus, shot-put, javelin. It is bell-whanging. He shows his class on YouTube. The rules have yet to be codified – there is still a dispute about whether you get extra points for hitting a spectator – but you can be sure they will be codified in London.

16. The Olympics are proving to be a boost to tattoo parlours. Plenty of people seem to want their thighs inscribed with “Oylimpics 2012” and other ineradicable mis-spellings.

17. No single athlete was able to swank about having the honour of lighting the cauldron, since that went to a collection of young athletes. This was a typically brilliant and diplomatic decision by Seb Coe.

19. As I write these words there are semi-naked women playing beach volleyball in the middle of the Horse Guards Parade immortalised by Canaletto. They are glistening like wet otters and the water is plashing off the brims of the spectators’ sou’westers. The whole thing is magnificent and bonkers.

I cut this from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/9437495/London-Olympics-2012-heres-20-jolly-good-reasons-to-feel-cheerful-about-the-Games.html#

I am truly envious. Brilliant. Wiff Waff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uix9kXIMVRM

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 8/1/2012 3:20:18 PM   
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The most stunning sight so far, the Dutch Women's Field Hockey Team. Wowza!

http://blog.sfgate.com/olympics/2012/07/29/dutch-field-hockey-gains-worldwide-attention-for-reasons-beyond-field-hockey-photo-gallery/


Yes indeed. And I love that University of Tennessee orange they wear.

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RE: All things Olympics and London 2012 - 8/1/2012 4:00:10 PM   
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I couldn't even get a flight to watch the marathon, at least I could get tickets for that venue.

Mat

I wouldn't risk the pneumonia You'll end up in hospital like what's-his-name...the Queen's husband...after that river parade they had had in a downpour...the one they try to keep away from the media because he's always insulting people

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