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RE: Southern clean up. Whats next? - 12/30/2012 11:59:31 AM   
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Turn 63 VP Total= 225

Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 277
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 52
Brigades: 62
SU: 13
AP total: 1630
Russian losses this turn: 82,000 Total dead: 6,745,000
Russian OOB: 5,572,000
A net gain of: +32,000
Russian units currently in a pocket:
GHC OOB: 3,227,000
GHC net OOB change: +2,000

30 mile wide 60 mile deep hole punched in SHC lines west of Tula. Only about 1/2 of panzers were part of attacks as most were still on way to point of attack. Allot of SHC Corp in area so next turn should be huge as far as possibly pocketing large units.





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RE: Southern clean up. Whats next? - 1/1/2013 5:42:45 PM   
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Turn 64 VP Total= 225

Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 281
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 52
Brigades: 62
SU: 13
AP total: 1630
Russian losses this turn: 65,000 Total dead: 6,810,000
Russian OOB: 5,592,000
A net gain of: +20,000
Russian units currently in a pocket: 5
GHC OOB: 3,227,000
GHC net OOB change: +18,000







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RE: Southern clean up. Whats next? - 1/13/2013 5:24:09 PM   
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Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 281
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 60
Brigades: 65
SU: 13
AP total: 1725


GHC has had a very good summer 1942. 1725 AP'a worth of units destroyed and 281 pts of manpower over run.

So far a total of 7.1 million men lost for SHC and 2.4 million for GHC.

GHC has been able to stay on the offensive for the summer/fall and are looking to stay on the offensive into winter.

Both sides OOB had taken a beating as SHC is attacking wherever possible. Only real down side for GHC is armaments remain at 0.

The ratio in this game remains high enough for GHC to keep grinding as SHC morale must be low. 3 to 1 ratios are the norm for wins.




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RE: Southern clean up. Whats next? - 1/13/2013 5:27:12 PM   
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AGN: The Fins have broken the defenses in the far north and are now moving south with a few german mot units. This area could see a possible major offensive during winter.




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RE: Southern clean up. Whats next? - 1/13/2013 5:28:40 PM   
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AGC: This area has been quite for a while, the center is set-up in reserve mode and fort belts are under construction.




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1943 offensive operation. - 1/13/2013 5:29:55 PM   
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AGS: This area has been fliud and offesive operations are planned for the winter.




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Nov 1942 - 1/27/2013 5:43:57 PM   
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Turn 75—————Armaments: 7500 137 Turns to go and 940 miles to Berlin

Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 281
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 60
Brigades: 65
SU: 13
AP total: 1725
Total dead: 7,253,000 Russian losses this turn: ,000
Russian OOB: 6,150,000
A net gain of: ,000
Russian units currently in a pocket:
GHC OOB: 3,371,000 ——- Ready Rifle Squads: 43,700
GHC net OOB change: ,000
Total dead: 2,471,000 German losses this turn: ,000

Air War

Ratio: 6 : 1

GHC loses: 28
SHC loses: 177

GHC loses:6309
SHC loses: 29615

AGN:





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RE: Nov 1942 - 1/27/2013 5:44:30 PM   
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AGC




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RE: Nov 1942 - 1/27/2013 5:44:59 PM   
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RE: Dec 1942 - 2/8/2013 1:13:15 PM   
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Turn 80—————Armaments: 00-----------------132 Turns to go and 940 miles to Berlin

Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 281
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 60
Brigades: 65
SU: 13
AP total: 1725
Russian OOB: 6,150,000
A net gain of: +59,000
Russian units currently in a pocket:
GHC OOB: 3,407,000
GHC net OOB change: +36 ,000

Total dead: 2,553,000 German losses this turn: 82,000
Total dead: 7,478,000 Russian losses this turn: 225,000

Ready Rifle Squads: 43,000

Air War

Ratio: 4 : 1

GHC loses: 513
SHC loses: 1974

GHC loses:6822
SHC loses: 31589

AGN: Basicly static




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RE: Dec 1942 - 2/8/2013 1:14:04 PM   
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AGC: Again basicly static.




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RE: Dec 1942 - 2/8/2013 1:14:58 PM   
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AGS: Hvy fighting in the Don bend and around Rostov.




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Feb 1943 - 2/13/2013 2:23:53 PM   
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Turn 85—————Armaments: 00-----------------127 Turns to go and 940 miles to Berlin

Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 281
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 60
Brigades: 65
SU: 13
AP total: 1725
Russian OOB: 6,226,000
A net gain of: +76,000
Russian units currently in a pocket:
GHC OOB: 3,453,000
GHC net OOB change: +43 ,000

Total dead: 2,704,000 German losses last 5 turns: 151,000
Total dead: 7,844,000 Russian losses last 5 turns: 366,000

Ready Rifle Squads: 41,400

Air War

Ratio: 3 : 1

GHC loses: 645
SHC loses: 2064

GHC loses:7467
SHC loses: 33653

The GHC winter offensive was unable to move the lines or pocket any units, but did buy 9 more turns of time. Next turn I will start changing over to the defensive while holding 1 PG in reserve to cut off any thrusts by SHC forses. So far Loss ratio is about 2.5 to 1. Air losses are hvy, but I am going to keep bombers at the front as SHC air forse is weakened by hvy losses. SHC OOB only grew by about 15k per turn while GHC OOB grew by 8k per week. Armaments are at 0, but should start growing in the coming months. Manpower pools are at 25k each turn. I beleive I have the right Toe% in plase and will use in future/current games.

Defensive changes to include:

1. Disbanding 1 Corp per turn.
2. Reforming armies into 9 infantry and 3 panzer divisions. 1 Corp only per army with all Stugs/tank/Poineer SU's under divisions all AA/AT/Arty under army HQ.
3. 3 independent Corp as fire brigades.
4. Best leaders at Army HQ.
5. TOE setting at 81% for all support units other then arty and AA.
6. Summer 43 river lines to be constructed.
7. AA regiments to be moved from Citys to Army's before July 43.

Some of these changes started in September 1942, most of these changes will be complete by June 43.

AGN lines have been static other then a few hexes that have gone back and forth, basicly static. AGN has completed all 7 defensive changes.





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RE: Feb 1943 - 2/13/2013 2:26:40 PM   
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AGC has completed most of the 7 changes and should be fully converted by turn 90.

There has been fighting over 5 hexes which have changed hands several times and 3 remain a no mans land.

Basicly static.




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RE: Feb 1943 - 2/13/2013 2:33:31 PM   
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AGS the offensive operations come to a close, but fighting remains hvy. There at several stacks of Corp but CV lvls are low and can be easly pushed back when needed. I am guessing manpower is an issue for SHC as the OOB is climbing slowly. So far thats not and issue for GHC.

This AG still needs to be completely changed over to defensive set-up and will probably not be complete until after mud.

I will also need about 200 AP banked then I can start releasing more AA to front line units.

SHc has been able to regain a few hexes here and there but nothing I am willing to fight over other then the hexes near Rostov




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RE: Feb 1943 - 2/13/2013 4:12:12 PM   
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quote:

5. TOE setting at 81% for all support units other then arty and AA.


Not sure if you're including HQs in that TOE%, but keep in mind that has costs:

quote:

11.2.4. ADMINISTRATIVE RATING
The Admin leader rating is used for determining the actual number of movement points a
unit will have during its turn, checking for repair of damaged aircraft and ground elements,
determining the cost of attaching units to the leader’s headquarters unit and determining fuel
and supplies wastage as a result of air missions. When a motorized unit is performing an
admin leader check, leaders of Tank Army, Panzer Army, or Panzer Corps HQ units involved in
the admin leader check receive a +1 to their admin rating during the check. Admin checks are
specifically affected by the actual number of support squad ground elements in the leader’s HQ
unit as compared to the HQ unit TOE
(section 11.3).

11.3.1
...leader admin checks are modified by the amount of support squad ground elements
in the HQ unit of the leader conducting the check (7.6.1.1). Approximately one admin point is
subtracted from the leader’s admin rating for every ten percent the HQ unit is below its TOE
support squad strength
, with a max reduction of five points.

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RE: Feb 1943 - 2/13/2013 6:08:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Seminole

quote:

5. TOE setting at 81% for all support units other then arty and AA.


Not sure if you're including HQs in that TOE%, but keep in mind that has costs:

quote:

11.2.4. ADMINISTRATIVE RATING
The Admin leader rating is used for determining the actual number of movement points a
unit will have during its turn, checking for repair of damaged aircraft and ground elements,
determining the cost of attaching units to the leader’s headquarters unit and determining fuel
and supplies wastage as a result of air missions. When a motorized unit is performing an
admin leader check, leaders of Tank Army, Panzer Army, or Panzer Corps HQ units involved in
the admin leader check receive a +1 to their admin rating during the check. Admin checks are
specifically affected by the actual number of support squad ground elements in the leader’s HQ
unit as compared to the HQ unit TOE
(section 11.3).

11.3.1
...leader admin checks are modified by the amount of support squad ground elements
in the HQ unit of the leader conducting the check (7.6.1.1). Approximately one admin point is
subtracted from the leader’s admin rating for every ten percent the HQ unit is below its TOE
support squad strength
, with a max reduction of five points.



Guess I be alittle more clear how I am running things.

Basicly I set to 100% and HQ's fill up in a single turn. Then I set to 81% so it will take 8 or 9 turns to bleed down to low 80s. then set for 1 turn at 100%.

I also set at 100% 7 or 8 turns before mud, then let bleed down during mud turns. Reset to 100% first clear turn.

Been working very good so far, manpower pool is under - 30k every turn and armaments climbing so rifle squads are getting to front line units. Seems to be working best in armies with 0 or 1 Corp, not sure if they screwed up something in code when they put in new replasement system. You would think it would be revise, but Kamil is having major issues with replasements and pools and I am having none with 30-40 less Corp. This could be why GHC is having issues and SHC none getting replasements to front line units.

I set the toe of allot of other units at whatever the average is.

Say with AA I have 20 units under 90 toe and 20 over. I set toe at 90 so that units needed replasements are more likely to get them. I never turn refit off, never. If you set toe right replasements will go to right units.


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RE: Panzers East!!!!! - 2/18/2013 11:44:10 PM   
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We are now at March 43 Turn 95. Mud

On turn 96 I will finally produce 200 IL 2 planes. For those with super math skills, that means at the time of the Moscow 41 enciclement, i trained out a sum total of 5 IL2 factories. Ugly

Pelton tried to push east of rostov early in WInter but he got himself in a russain bear hug 3 turns in a row( i saved 6 units which were at the river line behind lines). He almost lost his arrow point.

I have survived and am trying to build an army. I continue to atack. I have a few brdgeheads over the river west of verozeth and east of rostov, For the melt.

His aircop has been battle tested. and his bombers the worst of it.

Tons of fun


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RE: Panzers East!!!!! - 2/19/2013 9:56:49 AM   
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Turn 90—————Armaments: 28,000-----------------122 Turns to go and 920 miles to Berlin

Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 281
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 60
Brigades: 65
SU: 13
AP total: 1725
Russian OOB: 6,358,000
A net gain of: +132,000
Russian units currently in a pocket:
GHC OOB: 3,527,000
GHC net OOB change: +74 ,000

Total dead: 2,820,000 German losses last 5 turns: 116,000
Total dead: 8,131,000 Russian losses last 5 turns: 287,000

Ready Rifle Squads: 41,000 Net: -400

Air War

Ratio: 4 : 1

GHC loses: 432
SHC loses: 1661

GHC loses:7899
SHC loses: 35314

AGN:No changes last 15 turns. Basicly static. SHC Grows by about 25,000 per turn. I am taking some hvy loses in the air, because I have bombers doing air support. Fighter loses are low at about 5 per turn.





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RE: Panzers East!!!!! - 2/19/2013 9:57:36 AM   
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AGC again no changes last 15 turns.




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RE: Panzers East!!!!! - 2/19/2013 9:59:18 AM   
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AGS the summer river line is being built. Hvy fighting in the Don bend. Allot of ground down here to give back during summer if need be.




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April 1943 - 3/6/2013 1:55:24 PM   
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Turn 95—————Armaments: 2,000-----------------117 Turns to go and 920 miles to Berlin

Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 281
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 60
Brigades: 65
SU: 13
AP total: 1725
Russian OOB: 6,513,000
A net gain of: +175,000
Russian units currently in a pocket:
GHC OOB: 3,548,000
GHC net OOB change: +21 ,000

Total dead: 2,820,000 German losses last 5 turns: 152,000
Total dead: 8,438,000 Russian losses last 5 turns: 307,000

Ready Rifle Squads: 39,300 Net: -1700

Air War

Ratio: 3 : 1

GHC loses: 730
SHC loses: 2202

GHC loses:7899
SHC loses: 37516

AGN Holding nothing to really report.





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RE: April 1943 - 3/6/2013 1:56:15 PM   
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AGC: Static also.




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June 1943 - 3/6/2013 1:57:50 PM   
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AGS: Heavy fighting lines move west 10 to 30 miles.




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RE: June 1943 - 3/23/2013 11:15:39 PM   
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Turn 100—————Armaments: 66,000-----------------112 Turns to go and 920 miles to Berlin

Manpower Pts over run during 1942 = 281
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp: 10
Divisions: 60
Brigades: 65
SU: 13
AP total: 1725

Russian OOB: 6,924,000
A net gain of: +411,000

GHC OOB: 3,660,000
GHC net OOB change: +112 ,000

Ready Rifle Squads: 41,000 Net: +1700

Air War

Ratio: 3 : 1

GHC loses: 300
SHC loses: 925

GHC loses:8702
SHC loses: 38441

AGN and its mud season not much going on, but I will post maps.




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RE: June 1943 - 3/23/2013 11:16:31 PM   
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RE: June 1943 - 3/23/2013 11:16:59 PM   
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RE: June 1943 - 4/8/2013 3:55:14 PM   
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Turn 105—————Armaments: 66,000-----------------112 Turns to go and 920 miles to Berlin

AGN: With drawing to the river lines. No data to report I will update on turn 110.




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RE: June 1943 - 4/8/2013 3:56:01 PM   
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AGC is basicly static with a few battles here and there.




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RE: June 1943 - 4/8/2013 3:56:54 PM   
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AGS withdrawing to river line.




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