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11643: So, I need some practical advice on Sweeps. I've never played this late in a game, unlike Greyjoy, and so I don't really have any experience with latewar sweeps. How does one get those big kill ratios? Today, we did a big sweep over Mandalay. I lost 22 P47s and about 23 Hellcats, and we shot down 85 fighters. Not a disaster, but that's not a favorable rate in the long run. I have the Hellcats, but not the P47s. How do I do this? We are playing with a HR setting max altitude at 2nd best maneuver band. Here were my settings: 4x P47: SWEEP, at 42,000 ft 2xHellcat: LRCAP at 38,000 2xP38: LRCAP at 31,000 ft 1xP40N: LRCAP at 15,000 ft 1xCorsair: LRCAP at 31,000ft Total, that is close to 200 planes I had on that combat. Should I have more on CAP? More sweepers? DIfferent altitude? What? I don't mind losing Hellcats (which is why they are here), but I need to preserve the P47s Here is the combat report: Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K2J George x 166 Ki44IIc Tojo x 205 Ki84a Frank x 231 Allied aircraft P47D2 Thunderbolt x 24 F4U1 Corsair x 18 F6F3 Hellcat x 36 Japanese aircraft losses Ki44IIc Tojo: 6 destroyed Ki84a Frank: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed F6F3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 6 x P47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet CAP engaged: 251 Ku S1 with N1K2J George (0 airborne, 27 on standby, 0 scrambling) 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 35300. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 202 Ku S1 with N1K2J George (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling) 15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 35300. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes 261 Ku S2 with N1K2J George (0 airborne, 54 on standby, 0 scrambling) 27 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 35300. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 1st Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling) 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes 9th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling) 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling) 14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 24th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling) 14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes 25th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling) 14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes 54th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling) 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes 64th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling) 14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes 77th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 27 on standby, 0 scrambling) 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes 87th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 23 on standby, 0 scrambling) 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes 246th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes 248th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (29 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 29 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 Raid is overhead 260th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 23 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 Raid is overhead  Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K2J George x 165 Ki44IIc Tojo x 181 Ki84a Frank x 214 Allied aircraft P38H Lightning x 49 P47D2 Thunderbolt x 25 F6F3 Hellcat x 43 Japanese aircraft losses N1K2J George: 2 destroyed Ki84a Frank: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 14 x P47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet CAP engaged: 251 Ku S1 with N1K2J George (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 32 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 202 Ku S1 with N1K2J George (0 airborne, 26 on standby, 0 scrambling) 18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 40000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes 261 Ku S2 with N1K2J George (0 airborne, 42 on standby, 0 scrambling) 35 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 39000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes 1st Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling) 18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 42000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes 9th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 42000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling) 18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 36740 and 39000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 24th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 20 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 25th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling) 14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes 54th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 34440 and 38000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes 64th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling) 16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 35000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 77th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 23 on standby, 0 scrambling) 16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 41000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes 87th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 19 on standby, 0 scrambling) 15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 246th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 20 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes 248th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 25 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 83 minutes 260th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 97 minutes  Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K2J George x 161 Ki44IIc Tojo x 174 Ki84a Frank x 201 Allied aircraft P38H Lightning x 25 P47D2 Thunderbolt x 25 F4U1 Corsair x 18 F6F3 Hellcat x 23 Japanese aircraft losses N1K2J George: 1 destroyed Ki44IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed Ki84a Frank: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed F6F3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 18 x P47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet CAP engaged: 251 Ku S1 with N1K2J George (3 airborne, 12 on standby, 4 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 33000 and 43000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes 202 Ku S1 with N1K2J George (3 airborne, 22 on standby, 4 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17330 and 35300. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes 261 Ku S2 with N1K2J George (4 airborne, 34 on standby, 4 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 25 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 40000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 1st Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 5 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 37740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes 9th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 35000 and 43000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 46000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes 24th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 17 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 25th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (6 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 45000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes 54th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 1 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 46000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 64th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 20 on standby, 6 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 77th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 3 scrambling) 16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 43000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes 87th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling) 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 44000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes 246th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (2 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes 248th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 25 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes 260th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes  Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K2J George x 149 Ki44IIc Tojo x 154 Ki84a Frank x 189 Allied aircraft P47D2 Thunderbolt x 25 F4U1 Corsair x 18 F6F3 Hellcat x 12 Japanese aircraft losses N1K2J George: 2 destroyed Ki44IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed Ki84a Frank: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed F6F3 Hellcat: 6 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 11 x P47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet CAP engaged: 251 Ku S1 with N1K2J George (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 4 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 12 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 33000 and 43000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes 202 Ku S1 with N1K2J George (4 airborne, 18 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17330 and 35300. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 261 Ku S2 with N1K2J George (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 8 scrambling) 29 plane(s) not yet engaged, 13 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 45000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 1st Sentai with Ki84a Frank (3 airborne, 12 on standby, 5 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 40000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 9th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 35000 and 43000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes 24th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 46000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes 25th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 4 scrambling) 25 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 54th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 1 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 39740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes 64th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 9 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 34440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes 77th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (0 airborne, 19 on standby, 3 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 43000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes 87th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 36000 and 43000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes 246th Sentai with Ki84a Frank (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 33000 and 45000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 248th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 25 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes 260th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki44IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 4 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 36000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
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