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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 5:38:49 PM   
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Took a look at my pools. The last month of battles north of Darwin has really put a toll on my pools. I'm short of Dive Bombers and cannon-fodder fighters (A6M3a), while I completely emptied the pool of A6M2s (lost nearly 1800 of them by now) and of the earlier model of the Judy (the D4Y1)

However we're now building a steady number of late war fighters and I hope to be able to stockpile them pretty quickly.
The KI-84R is being produced at a rate of 322 monthly, while 250 N1K2s are added every month. From March 1944 i'll also be able to produce 190 J2M5s.
Now, with the conversion of the P1Y1 factory to the P1Y2, i'll be producing 140 of them every month.
From Jan 1944 270 D4Y4s will be in production.

The final figures for 1944 should so be:

ARMY:

350 KI-84-r
251 KI-44-c
160 KI-43 IIIa (later becoming 250 KI-43 IV)

60 KI-45a (then switch from august 1944 to 120 KI-102c)

180 KI-67-T (probably will add more factories here)
140 KI-49-IIb


NAVY:

250 N1K2
190 J2M5
140 A6M5
40 A6M3a

140 P1Y2
40 G4M2
60 G3N3

270 D4Y4
160 B6N2
150 B7A2


In late 1944/1945 we will add to these numbers:

110 Ki-84-b
110 KI-83

160/180 A7M2
100 J7W1



It's interesting to see how quickly our ideas change when playing the Japanese side. I completely understand and this is not a criticism by the way, just an observation.

You started the game talking about not pushing planes more than (if I recall correctly) 4 months ahead. During a discussion about jrcar's numbers you advised me to be careful of producing so many Ki-84 (he was producing 300 at the time).

Now your numbers are staggering!! it's competitiveness I know. You know now what it takes to fight the better equipment and bigger numbers of Allied groups and CVs. It takes HUGE numbers. This is a 'scenario 2' type of OOB so you should inflate those numbers. He knows what he's in for. It just astounds me what you are able to produce compared to what I've got going a whole 6 months later.

I'm sure you're doing this but make sure you have big nodes for LBA from several 8/9 level bases nearby to hit him when he gets into the Moluccas from several angles; Borneo, Mindanao and Babeldaob.




Good point. GreyJoy is pushing the envelope in terms of R&D and production. The system allows for this with a Scenario 2 OOB start, so there ya' go. But there can't be any bones about it-this is a clearly other-worldly production system for even the most inculcated JFB. Not breaking any rules, but these numbers suggest that there are no punches pulled for production or research.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 6:11:37 PM   
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Well Done Sir.

I have an AAR question. How is it that you can take multiple screenshots of the turn? I take one for Posting into mine but don't know how to get several without re-running the turn several times.

Thanks and CONGRATS!



John,

There are also some screen-capture programs that allow you to just keep hitting PrintScreen to get more than one screenshot at a time. The program handles generating and saving the files in a designated directory and with a set naming convention. I think there are even some Shareware/Freewhere versions floating around.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 6:18:30 PM   
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Jesus christ hail mary helvetes jävlar thats a crap load of planes GJ!

Thats going to be fun for Q-ball to battle with 130 Hellcats, 78 Corsairs, 30 P51s, 52 Spits and 80 P38s! 2500 vs 370. Doing some simple math and a huge amount of simplification he has to get 7-1 or better just to keep up. He won´t be able to do that obviously.

Out of curiosity from a Allied perspective. Why are you producing so many Helens? And why some many Georges? Its a pretty crappy plane. I think the Jack is far better.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 6:54:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Took a look at my pools. The last month of battles north of Darwin has really put a toll on my pools. I'm short of Dive Bombers and cannon-fodder fighters (A6M3a), while I completely emptied the pool of A6M2s (lost nearly 1800 of them by now) and of the earlier model of the Judy (the D4Y1)

However we're now building a steady number of late war fighters and I hope to be able to stockpile them pretty quickly.
The KI-84R is being produced at a rate of 322 monthly, while 250 N1K2s are added every month. From March 1944 i'll also be able to produce 190 J2M5s.
Now, with the conversion of the P1Y1 factory to the P1Y2, i'll be producing 140 of them every month.
From Jan 1944 270 D4Y4s will be in production.

The final figures for 1944 should so be:

ARMY:

350 KI-84-r
251 KI-44-c
160 KI-43 IIIa (later becoming 250 KI-43 IV)

60 KI-45a (then switch from august 1944 to 120 KI-102c)

180 KI-67-T (probably will add more factories here)
140 KI-49-IIb


NAVY:

250 N1K2
190 J2M5
140 A6M5
40 A6M3a

140 P1Y2
40 G4M2
60 G3N3

270 D4Y4
160 B6N2
150 B7A2


In late 1944/1945 we will add to these numbers:

110 Ki-84-b
110 KI-83

160/180 A7M2
100 J7W1



It's interesting to see how quickly our ideas change when playing the Japanese side. I completely understand and this is not a criticism by the way, just an observation.

You started the game talking about not pushing planes more than (if I recall correctly) 4 months ahead. During a discussion about jrcar's numbers you advised me to be careful of producing so many Ki-84 (he was producing 300 at the time).

Now your numbers are staggering!! it's competitiveness I know. You know now what it takes to fight the better equipment and bigger numbers of Allied groups and CVs. It takes HUGE numbers. This is a 'scenario 2' type of OOB so you should inflate those numbers. He knows what he's in for. It just astounds me what you are able to produce compared to what I've got going a whole 6 months later.

I'm sure you're doing this but make sure you have big nodes for LBA from several 8/9 level bases nearby to hit him when he gets into the Moluccas from several angles; Borneo, Mindanao and Babeldaob.




Good point. GreyJoy is pushing the envelope in terms of R&D and production. The system allows for this with a Scenario 2 OOB start, so there ya' go. But there can't be any bones about it-this is a clearly other-worldly production system for even the most inculcated JFB. Not breaking any rules, but these numbers suggest that there are no punches pulled for production or research.



Guys, i haven't done anything particular with the R&D program, nor i think i've done anything more than the usual things suggested by the vets.
3x30 Peggy-T R&D factories
4x30 D4Y line R&D factories
3x30 Grace factories
6x30 KI-84 line factories
3x30 KI-84b factories
5x30 Jill line factories
6x30 N1K line factories (converted to production when the K1K2 became available)
4x30 Jack line factories (1 converted to production when the J2M3 arrived)
2x30 Shiden factories
3x30 KI-83 factories
2x30 QLorna factories
The Whole A6M R&D program was converted to production when the A6M5 became available

Nothing strange imho. I've invested a lot in the engine bonus...and these are the results

and no, i'm not producing all those planes at once. When i reach 3/400 planes stockpiled for a single type i stop the production and restabilish it when needed. Those are the numbers i will be ABLE to produce.

And this is Scenario 2, but with the economy of scenario 1...so i had to accept a HUGE trade off for being able to have those figures... i stopped immediately 1 Tahio Class CV and 4 more CVs, along with all the CVEs scheldued to arrive later than 12/43.
Also stopped every xAK and TK on the list and halted the Nav and Merc production, in order to save HIs for the air army.

It's a trade off.... and all those supplies spent to repair those factories are going to hurt me in the long term....

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 6:59:39 PM   
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Jesus christ hail mary helvetes jävlar thats a crap load of planes GJ!

Thats going to be fun for Q-ball to battle with 130 Hellcats, 78 Corsairs, 30 P51s, 52 Spits and 80 P38s! 2500 vs 370. Doing some simple math and a huge amount of simplification he has to get 7-1 or better just to keep up. He won´t be able to do that obviously.

Out of curiosity from a Allied perspective. Why are you producing so many Helens? And why some many Georges? Its a pretty crappy plane. I think the Jack is far better.



Joc, the Helens are usefull (ASW, Kamikaze, LowNav etc), but i'm not producing them all. I wanna have the flexibility to be able to do that and to use all my saved HIs when the time of the final battle will come.

I've already been there Joc. The Spits and the T-Bolts, alone, are able to obtain much more than a 7-1...also because Brad can use them on CAP while he advances.

The N1K2 is a very good plane imho and slightly better than the J2M3. Why so many? Because i'm gonna lose a heckaluva lot of them when the P47s will start to sweep in great numbers, followed by hordes of B-24s and B-29s... i need deep pools!

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 7:00:24 PM   
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Well Done Sir.

I have an AAR question. How is it that you can take multiple screenshots of the turn? I take one for Posting into mine but don't know how to get several without re-running the turn several times.

Thanks and CONGRATS!


Hi all.
1. assume f8 key is on.
2. hit the screen print button
3. hit the windowsbutton which will bring up the desktop screen
4. keep your paint button open while playing AE then just switch back and forth.
I hope I am answering the question correctly.





+1. Exactly what i do

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 7:03:09 PM   
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It's a trade off.... and all those supplies spent to repair those factories are going to hurt me in the long term....


As everything is with the Japanese side of this game. You've balanced it in the way you see as important. That's fine.

Jocke's numbers highlight something though as well. In spite of the fact he neglected to include numbers from incoming groups, you'd still be likely to have a 5:1 advantage in planes. Can he overcome that? Maybe, but he might not have much of a fleet left by the time he gets close to Japan. He'll have to try a night fire-bombing campaign from a distance.

If he sticks with it this one should go to 46, and that will be fun to see.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 7:10:50 PM   
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It's a trade off.... and all those supplies spent to repair those factories are going to hurt me in the long term....


As everything is with the Japanese side of this game. You've balanced it in the way you see as important. That's fine.

Jocke's numbers highlight something though as well. In spite of the fact he neglected to include numbers from incoming groups, you'd still be likely to have a 5:1 advantage in planes. Can he overcome that? Maybe, but he might not have much of a fleet left by the time he gets close to Japan. He'll have to try a night fire-bombing campaign from a distance.

If he sticks with it this one should go to 46, and that will be fun to see.



Exactly the same situation that pushed me to do "Suddenly Hairy" operation against Rader.
No matter how many planes i was shooting down (by late 1943 Rader had lost 25,000 planes!), he just kept on coming.
In those strikes i hadn't a 5-1 advantage, not at all!

Brad had 400 LBA fighters between Kai-Enlanded and Molu, plus 6/700 fighters from all his CV/CVL/CVEs. Look at my combat reports... my biggest strike had less than 200 fighters on escort and nearly 350 bombers.

Overall i had 130 Frances, 140 Oscars, 100 TB for LBA attack, along with 200 fighters on LRCAP/Escort. All of this plus the KB

Now compare the numbers... the allied DS alone should have 1500 planes (at least), plus all the LBA.... think i never had anything more than 1.5-1 advantage on that particular part of the map.


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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 7:24:13 PM   
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2x30 QLorna factories




Why the Lorna Greyjoy? Doesn't seem to have any value I can see...

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 9:24:51 PM   
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I've already been there Joc. The Spits and the T-Bolts, alone, are able to obtain much more than a 7-1...also because Brad can use them on CAP while he advances.

The N1K2 is a very good plane imho and slightly better than the J2M3. Why so many? Because i'm gonna lose a heckaluva lot of them when the P47s will start to sweep in great numbers, followed by hordes of B-24s and B-29s... i need deep pools!


He might be able to get those numbers on the defensive. But not on the offense if you do it right. And you usually do. Besides by the looks of it the air war might be a weak spot for Q-ball. Either he hasn´t been doing it very well or you have been doing it extremely well. He won´t be able to get 7-1 results. Of that I´m sure.

Strange about the Jacks. I seem to suffer a bit against them while the George is just cannon fodder. At least when I sweep. That is at least the feeling I have.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 9:30:39 PM   
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In spite of the fact he neglected to include numbers from incoming groups,


You know thats just a Urban JFB myth right? In fact (going by memory here) between 11/43 and 11/44 the allies receive a whopping 75 P47s and 50 P51s via incoming groups. So that 10,4 extra proper USAAF airframes per month. Kind of negligible don´t you think?

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/18/2013 10:45:07 PM   
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In spite of the fact he neglected to include numbers from incoming groups,


You know thats just a Urban JFB myth right? In fact (going by memory here) between 11/43 and 11/44 the allies receive a whopping 75 P47s and 50 P51s via incoming groups. So that 10,4 extra proper USAAF airframes per month. Kind of negligible don´t you think?



You do know I'm on summer break and I'l be able to count this up now, right?



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2x30 QLorna factories




Why the Lorna Greyjoy? Doesn't seem to have any value I can see...


The Lorna has both radar and MAD so theoretically should be a pretty good ASW platform, although it's bomb load is small.






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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/19/2013 5:54:51 AM   
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GreyJoy congratulations. Great Victory.


I was thinking about result You achieve and how Beta patch impact game.
As we know beta make LBA attack less effective. At lest less effective comparing to stock game. But get to point. As we know like in real life also in many games Japan is losing most in not all carriers before `44. In stock game it was not issue. JFB should be able to mass planes in few big AF and get trough enemy CAP like hot knife trough batter sinking everything he will find behind CAP. But You know that already

Beta is different story. I think when playing under beta Japanese player need to preserve carriers in service as long as passable. I know it will use tons of fuel. But under beta KB is probably only platform able to send big coordinated naval strike. Strike that will be newer passable by LBA. IF You in last battle use all those planes only as LBA i am almost sure that effect would be less pleasing.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/19/2013 8:09:05 AM   
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2x30 QLorna factories




Why the Lorna Greyjoy? Doesn't seem to have any value I can see...


As Obvert said, it should be a decent ASW plane, even if its range is horrible. Consider that when I planned my Air production (exactly one year of RL ago) I was a complete newby as Japan and made a lot of mistakes too. I was convinced to produce the Lorna basing on the observations made in few threads by NY59Giants (one of my Gurus along with Damian, Mike Solli and PaxMondo). So I did decide to go for it. In my next game I won't. Even if it's a good plane for ASW duties, its range makes it a very poor plane. I will probably use it ONLY in Formosa and in very few others straights....nothing more. Defenetly not worth investing 2 R&D factories in it, especially in a scenario with Realistic R&D ON.... where you basically can never get back from your previous choices.


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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/19/2013 8:14:41 AM   
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I've already been there Joc. The Spits and the T-Bolts, alone, are able to obtain much more than a 7-1...also because Brad can use them on CAP while he advances.

The N1K2 is a very good plane imho and slightly better than the J2M3. Why so many? Because i'm gonna lose a heckaluva lot of them when the P47s will start to sweep in great numbers, followed by hordes of B-24s and B-29s... i need deep pools!


He might be able to get those numbers on the defensive. But not on the offense if you do it right. And you usually do. Besides by the looks of it the air war might be a weak spot for Q-ball. Either he hasn´t been doing it very well or you have been doing it extremely well. He won´t be able to get 7-1 results. Of that I´m sure.

Strange about the Jacks. I seem to suffer a bit against them while the George is just cannon fodder. At least when I sweep. That is at least the feeling I have.



Both the Jack and the George are dead meat when the 3rd generation allied sweep. The Jack has a better climb rate, which may help a bit, but the N2K2 has a better mvr over 20,000 feet... so I think they are more or less equal. What I like about the J3M3 is that it uses the Ha-32, so I can stress a lot less the Ha-45 pool

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/19/2013 8:15:42 AM   
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Brad is a bit busy at work in these days, so the game will be slow/on hold for a couple of more days probably. Not bad cause i'm pretty busy too

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/19/2013 8:40:08 AM   
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Both the Jack and the George are dead meat when the 3rd generation allied sweep. The Jack has a better climb rate, which may help a bit, but the N2K2 has a better mvr over 20,000 feet... so I think they are more or less equal. What I like about the J3M3 is that it uses the Ha-32, so I can stress a lot less the Ha-45 pool


Might be the climb that has managed to get the Jack above the sweeps getting a better result than the George? Do you really think MVR is that important? Obviously I know nothing of engine stuff but if I was a Jap player I would build Jacks instead of Georges.

But as you say they are both dead against the P47 so perhaps its moot.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/20/2013 2:39:41 AM   
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I've already been there Joc. The Spits and the T-Bolts, alone, are able to obtain much more than a 7-1...also because Brad can use them on CAP while he advances.

The N1K2 is a very good plane imho and slightly better than the J2M3. Why so many? Because i'm gonna lose a heckaluva lot of them when the P47s will start to sweep in great numbers, followed by hordes of B-24s and B-29s... i need deep pools!


He might be able to get those numbers on the defensive. But not on the offense if you do it right. And you usually do. Besides by the looks of it the air war might be a weak spot for Q-ball. Either he hasn´t been doing it very well or you have been doing it extremely well. He won´t be able to get 7-1 results. Of that I´m sure.

Strange about the Jacks. I seem to suffer a bit against them while the George is just cannon fodder. At least when I sweep. That is at least the feeling I have.



Both the Jack and the George are dead meat when the 3rd generation allied sweep. The Jack has a better climb rate, which may help a bit, but the N2K2 has a better mvr over 20,000 feet... so I think they are more or less equal. What I like about the J3M3 is that it uses the Ha-32, so I can stress a lot less the Ha-45 pool


Jack, George, Frank-does not matter much. If they are based where they cannot be railed out then they are vulnerable to massed air power. You just have to have some service rating one aircraft even if they are inferior. Allies can never hope to match Japanese numbers until 1945, but with planning the Allied player should always be able to defeat the Japanese air force at the point of attack anytime after 1944. Any Allied player thinking about attrition is thinking about losing...

I am also beginning to think that strategic bombing of the home island is not necessary for a win either. Only took me 1200 turns to figure this out...




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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/21/2013 6:52:28 AM   
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The game started back, altough in a slow motion for this week.

While the enemy CVs retire to Darwin, there are still hundreds of ships in the Arafuna sea and the 1st USMC division keeps on unloading at Kaimana.
a quite turn anyway, with a raiding 2DDTF just sunk a regiment near Sorong in an XAKL TF...:-( and while we ambushed one of his daily bombing missions over Damar, killing 60 allied planes

Nothing to write home about anyway

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/26/2013 9:55:55 PM   
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Page 2?  What in the heck is going on around here? 

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/26/2013 11:41:32 PM   
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Page 2? What in the heck is going on around here?
Don't add to the page count here. All the cool kids are hanging around in Sumantra

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/29/2013 9:49:31 AM   
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Sorry guys, me and Brad decided to slow down our rate a bit now that the summer is exploding in both our countries.... and also this gives a hand to CR in order to catch up a bit in the posts count :-)))))

What's happening? Well, the battle for Kaimana isn't over yet. We're are approaching Christmas '43 and the allies are far from conquering it. We have tangled with our air forces over Kaimana and Babo for 10 days now and i think i got the upper hand...at least for the moment. During the last 4 days the allies landed the 4th Aus Division there, along with a Corp HQ...but the japanese air army fought back and sunk at least 20/25 xAPs, 10 AK/xAKs, 1 APA and 1 LSD, along with what i estimate was more than a regiment worth of allied combat troops. The expense? 300 bombers and 200 fighters, but the allied fighter force suffered too, losing not less than 100/150 fighters over Babo and Kaimana.

The KB danced against subs for 6 days in order to reach a safe port (Bab)... luckly they didn't score a single hit...but man, there are a lot of them hunting around there!! My pilots pools are really in a bad shape, especially for what concerns the NavB skill...and i have run out of D4Ys!!!!... anyway, think Brad isn't that happy about how his DEI campaign is advancing...sure he's gaining ground...but at what cost!!!!

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/29/2013 10:03:14 AM   
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Fantastic that you are still holding him.

Is he still taking risks to move quickly?

His losses suggests he is

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 6/29/2013 4:29:23 PM   
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Hummmm, that very cool Georgia lawyer's AAR is closing the gap.  Better get Q-Ball back in the saddle. 

And ALL the cool kids are NOT in Sumatra.....Ser Greyjoy is a permanent fixture here:).

Carry on Ser Greyjoy.  You are giving the Q-Ball a real run for his money.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 7/3/2013 4:26:31 PM   
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Hi all,

yes, I know we've been slow lately. Brad and I are a bit breathing... work is being harsh for both of us and I think QBall needed a bit of a break after the recent battles.
Now he's leaving for 15 days for a cruise in the Baltic so we'll probably resume our game in the last part of July.

We've done 3 more turns since the last update and Brad has nuked Boela with 5 bombardment TFs (shutting down the AF and killing 100 planes on the ground), forcing me to evacuate the field. However I think he has lost his momentum. At Kaimana his first attack did get a 1-1 and dropped the forts to 2 but he took way more casualities than me and every day my AV grows stronger... I know I cannot hold Kaimana for much longer but every day gained is a victory...every effort that slows him down and forces him to send more ships and risk more assets is a win for me.
The KB is now back at full strength and is ready to strike again. We managed to redeploy 2 divisions in the last week...divisions that will be sent to Menado Area in order to create another strong perimeter once the Sorong line is broken.

Usual recon missions over Western Sumatra. I'm not forgetting that corner of the map...especially after CR's latest shows...I'm creating an air reserve to be used there in case of immediate threat.

What else? The overall situation isn't that bad. In Burma we're getting ready to move back to Thailand...the pressure is too high now and the loss of the 33rd Division at Akyab hurts a lot.

As far as I can tell the allied CVs are moving back to the Torres Strait...probably getting back to the pacific. My KB is at Bab...so in a perfect position. Let's see what will happen. Now, in 10 days, we'll start producing the D4Y4...I really hope to be able to use a lot of them in my next encounter with the allied CVs.


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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 7/3/2013 4:27:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Encircled

Fantastic that you are still holding him.

Is he still taking risks to move quickly?

His losses suggests he is


No, he slowed back a lot... but now that he's so close to our main bases, every time he sends some TF in, he knows he's risking. And Biak is in a perfect position...right on his flank...

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 7/3/2013 4:33:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: princep01

Hummmm, that very cool Georgia lawyer's AAR is closing the gap.  Better get Q-Ball back in the saddle. 

And ALL the cool kids are NOT in Sumatra.....Ser Greyjoy is a permanent fixture here:).

Carry on Ser Greyjoy.  You are giving the Q-Ball a real run for his money.


My Master! Nice to see you back!
Well, John and CR are playing a great match and they do deserve (especially the Georgian one) a bit of credit here...let them come closer... I do not dislike some healthy competition

However I think me and Brad really had a run...this game has exactly one year... and in one year we've done nearly 750 turns... not bad! I think it's ok if we slow down a bit for a while

I will carry on Master! Think I can still give him some pretty heavy headhaces... the KB is still intact and soon my LBA will be able to strike en masse again

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 7/4/2013 8:39:08 PM   
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I see, that you mentioned, that you use old ZEROs for sacrificial escort duty. Since it does not seem, that either experience, speed, or maneuverability helps much during escort, your best bet would be something with armor. That way plane have chance to survive initial attack (and be target for another pass )

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Now, in 10 days, we'll start producing the D4Y4...I really hope to be able to use a lot of them in my next encounter with the allied CVs.

Are you sure it is entirely KOSHER?
D4Y4 was kamikaze variant, and the bomb was not non-detachable. I have no idea, why it can be dropped it in-game.

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 7/4/2013 10:44:59 PM   
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Going this way ... He should not have A7M, A6M8, Tojo, K-83 etc...
Who would like to play Jap side having just Zero, Val, Kate and Oscar for 5y war ?

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RE: The Clash of Titans...another allied victory? - 7/5/2013 1:34:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: inqistor

I see, that you mentioned, that you use old ZEROs for sacrificial escort duty. Since it does not seem, that either experience, speed, or maneuverability helps much during escort, your best bet would be something with armor. That way plane have chance to survive initial attack (and be target for another pass )

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Now, in 10 days, we'll start producing the D4Y4...I really hope to be able to use a lot of them in my next encounter with the allied CVs.

Are you sure it is entirely KOSHER?
D4Y4 was kamikaze variant, and the bomb was not non-detachable. I have no idea, why it can be dropped it in-game.



Yes, that's why i'm really looking forward to have the SAM, tough it won't arrive untill early 1945

And yes, i think it's kosher. The game allows it, exactly as it allows the 8 hexes strikes vs. the 7 hexes of the allied CVs, or the Corsairs to take off from CVE Long Island. And i don't think it's an overview, like Jakes being able to operate from Subs just because the game doesn't understand the differences among FP types. The D4Y4 is a plane specifically made carrier capable by the devs.


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