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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 3/25/2013 2:14:08 PM   
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Mergui - Your screenshot show you have two combat engineer units arriving there. Why?!? They should be used in counterattacks only at this point in the game.



I see your point micheal, however you play with what u have and my defences are already stretched so i cannot provide enough infantry units everywhere i'd want to. Btw the combat engineer units, once upgraded to 1943 squads, those little units have a very good AT value and have some combat abilities too, especially when defending against a landing. Also they can provide some building capabilities that the smaller indipendent rgts don't have.
A small ind.regiment, with some indipendent artillery and some cbt eng units in support may become quite a good defensive units behind some good forts.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 3/25/2013 7:58:10 PM   
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Che bella!

A full division at Moulemin and Tavoy. 2 brigades at Port Blair. Even Andaman has a garrison.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 3/26/2013 12:25:29 AM   
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Thx cap!

The idea is that i cannot hold Burma forever, so it's best to start building a second defensive line.
The Adamans have been fortified very early in 1942. Sent there the first small units bought out from china in 1942. The adamans are critical imho.
Once i started to see his best units moving out of Burma after the first initial failed attacks i decided to extract some RTA divisions from there. They can't hold the line alone in Burma but they can garrison pretty decently the bases in Thailand.
Overall the plan was not to overextend in 1942 trying to grab as much land as i could...i conquered just what i thought i could include in a strong defensive and guarded perimeter...everything else was left ungarrisoned. As Japan you really have to make tough calls when it's up to decide what to defend.
I'm now extracting a bde from Cocos and sending it to Java....just in case.


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 3/27/2013 12:39:28 PM   
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Waiting for QBall to come back from his euro trip, i'm having a lot of time to think about the strategic situation i'm facing in this 1943.
We're now approaching the end of July 1943 and the allies are getting stronger everyday. Till now Brad hasn't been very aggressive, but it's just a matter of time, we all know it.
Now he must have all his CVs equipped with Hellcats. I do think, by now, he has something like 7/8 CVs and some 10 CVL/CVEs (at least)... a mobile force of nearly 1000 superior planes.
I repeat that my guess is that his CVs are re-grouping around Perth for a move in the Indian Ocean. I haven't seen, so far, any of his marine divisions so i really have to fear a massive landing operation.
He's not strong enough to approach directly the Mariannas, so i do think i'm pretty safe on my eastern flank.
Wake and Marcus are well defended and, if i was him, i wouldn't dare to try a landing there before he has a base for the 4Es in range.
The KB, for the moment, must remain in the DEI. Even if he now has a good superiority in terms of planes quality, the combo KB+LBA remains a formidable weapon. A landing deep into the DEI (Sumatra or Java) without the support of his LBA may become a real slaughter for his navy.
His best bet remains the Darwin-Saumlaki vector...but as long as the KB remains in place, even with the full support of his CVs, the risks for him are huge..

The Kuriles rapresent another possible target untill october (when blizzar comes). The KB will be completely out of position and i will have to rely only on my LBA. However my LBA there is pretty decent. I'm keeping most of my training groups based in Hokkaido and at Shimushiri Jiima. Several daitais of Kates and Vals are present, along with 140 Oscars. 27 G3N3s and 12 Emilies are based there with the only goal of detect any early movement of his Navy. I should have at least 3 days of warning before an invasion fleet reaches the shores in the Kuriles...and in 3 days i can transfer a lot of planes there.
Paramushiro, Onnekotan, Shimishuri and Etorofu all have at least 500 AVs behind 5 forts... not exactly a walk in the park, even for the dreaded Marine Divisions.
I'm also keeping 5 RO subs at Etorofu, along with a CL+5 Kagero Class DDs just in case.


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 3/27/2013 12:52:09 PM   
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It's bad enough that the SBD-3 carry 1000 lb bombs to hit your poor CVs with lousy damage control, but those Helldivers also carry two extra 250 lb bombs. I'll take that with a SR of 3.

Worse news is the P-47s come into production in 7/43. I'm looking forward to them myself, but in my game as Japan, I hate those damn planes.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 3/27/2013 1:27:16 PM   
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The Kuriles rapresent another possible target untill october (when blizzar comes). The KB will be completely out of position and i will have to rely only on my LBA. However my LBA there is pretty decent. I'm keeping most of my training groups based in Hokkaido and at Shimushiri Jiima. Several daitais of Kates and Vals are present, along with 140 Oscars. 27 G3N3s and 12 Emilies are based there with the only goal of detect any early movement of his Navy. I should have at least 3 days of warning before an invasion fleet reaches the shores in the Kuriles...and in 3 days i can transfer a lot of planes there.
Paramushiro, Onnekotan, Shimishuri and Etorofu all have at least 500 AVs behind 5 forts... not exactly a walk in the park, even for the dreaded Marine Divisions.
I'm also keeping 5 RO subs at Etorofu, along with a CL+5 Kagero Class DDs just in case.


Although I think the Kuriles are always a target that poses problems for Japan, you are very well prepared up there, and it's actually much easier to meet unexpected strikes in this area with the proximity of lots of LBA and at least some naval assets within a day's journey.

I know you're more sensitive to a raid or invasion up there from what you were able to do, but that will most likely never be repeated in any game! We all have pickets, air patrols and decent garrisons with forts built up and air HQs in place to get warning for a move up there thanks to what you accomplished.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 3/31/2013 11:43:13 AM   
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It's bad enough that the SBD-3 carry 1000 lb bombs to hit your poor CVs with lousy damage control, but those Helldivers also carry two extra 250 lb bombs. I'll take that with a SR of 3.

Worse news is the P-47s come into production in 7/43. I'm looking forward to them myself, but in my game as Japan, I hate those damn planes.



I know Micheal, those P-47s are nasty. I'm doing my best to have decent CAP over my bases but i know i cannot do much.


Here's a screenshot of the southern DEI theatre. As you see the operation to reinforce Saumlaki is ongoing. Tomorrow it will be the day. We'll have to get in and out very quickly. 500 enemy bombers are massing at Darwin...it's gonna be bloody




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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 10:21:51 AM   
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3 BBs and 4 CAs plaster Molu for the second day in a row, destroying 48 planes on the ground (P-47s, Spits and several P-40s), while the KB moves unseen next to Babar, covering a force composed of a surface TF (3 fast BBs, 4 modern CAs and 15 DDs), another CL TF (4 CLs + 10 DDs) and 3 fast transport TFs (bringing a full regiment, an AA regiment and 15k supplies). 3 DDTFs are sweeping Molu and Saumlaki each day. Today we sunk 13 PTs for no losses. So far so good.

We expect a strong resistance for tomorrow so 4 more BBs and 4 more CAs are moved in from Ambon in order to cover the amphibious force.

More than 1800 planes will partecipate in this operation. All our AFs in the area are crowded with bombers and fighters. With Molu out of action for at least a couple of days and with the KB in the first line, i think we can make it.

No sign of enemy CVs... but my best bet is that they are still lingering in the australian western coast.


Supplies are running really short in Japan (less than 400k now)...think i'll soon have to ask Brad to send our game to Michealm to add the extra fuel and supplies that were missing at the beginning

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 10:35:15 AM   
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For those of you who are wondering "why is he risking so much for a place like Saumlaki?"...i can tell you that i've thought about it a lot.

Saumlaki is decisive. It's what Guadalcanal has been in RL but with the "plus" of being exactly on a direct vector to the very heart of the DEI, the japanese "treasure".

I know i won't be able to push back the 25th American Div from Saumlaki. That's not my goal. My goal is to slow his advance as long as i can and force him to committ a lot of forces and assets for that piece or real estate. Without Saumlaki Molu remains very voulnerable. We've shown him we can close it and bomb whenever we want, no matter how many subs or mines he places there.
And untill he has secured that area and conquested Saumlaki he won't be able to move any real further in the southern DEI...not with the full KB operating in those waters.

So yes, i think it's well worth the risks we're taking

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 12:16:28 PM   
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Supplies are running really short in Japan (less than 400k now)...think i'll soon have to ask Brad to send our game to Michealm to add the extra fuel and supplies that were missing at the beginning

About what numbers You are talking. If i understand well there was some king of bug in mod you are playing?
I am sure Brad will give You green light with that. I see no reason he shouldn't
Lucky we have Michealm




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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 12:18:22 PM   
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Supplies are running really short in Japan (less than 400k now)...think i'll soon have to ask Brad to send our game to Michealm to add the extra fuel and supplies that were missing at the beginning

About what numbers You are talking. If i understand well there was some king of bug in mod you are playing?
I am sure Brad will give You green light with that. I see no reason he shouldn't
Lucky we have Michealm





Yes, this mod was missing 2Kk fuel and 2kk oil points at the beginning...

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 2:46:59 PM   
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For those of you who are wondering "why is he risking so much for a place like Saumlaki?"...i can tell you that i've thought about it a lot.

Saumlaki is decisive. It's what Guadalcanal has been in RL but with the "plus" of being exactly on a direct vector to the very heart of the DEI, the japanese "treasure".

I know i won't be able to push back the 25th American Div from Saumlaki. That's not my goal. My goal is to slow his advance as long as i can and force him to committ a lot of forces and assets for that piece or real estate. Without Saumlaki Molu remains very voulnerable. We've shown him we can close it and bomb whenever we want, no matter how many subs or mines he places there.
And untill he has secured that area and conquested Saumlaki he won't be able to move any real further in the southern DEI...not with the full KB operating in those waters.

So yes, i think it's well worth the risks we're taking


True. There is nothing worse (well sure getting all your CVs wiped out and such) for an allied player than having quality assault troops stranded on a beach having failed to take the base. They need supply, suffer, you need to either feed the meatgrinder with extra troops you wanted elsewhere or evac, in the meanwhile you can't do anything with them and you are not building up a new base..

Shame that he got Molu, but a single base can always be controlled, even if it requires a costly investment in LBA/surface assets. once he has expanded Molu to a 2/3 bases cluster you are ****ed, he can mass and get start to get the ball rolling. With Molu, your dam has been cracked, but the water is just leaking. With Saumlaki the dam just exploded and the water pours. You have to fight somewhere, this is a good place to do it, at least for a few months.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 2:59:26 PM   
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GJ will turn this into an early, very drawn out version of Okinawa for the Allies.  IE, the Allies will eventually prevail, but at what great cost!  By the end of '43, Q-Ball's going to be urging his Manhatten Project folks to make good on delivery of a working atomic bomb by March '44.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 4:10:54 PM   
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Olorin (Nick) and I sent a turn to MichaelM to modify the game file in regards to the missing supply and fuel that this mod was short a few weekends ago. I know we brought this up after both of us had gotten into this mod and it was fixed in later versions. MichaelM need you to run the turn as Japan and then send him the game file before you do orders to make the changes. We had him add 1.8 million supply and 2 million fuel. Nick felt like it was Christmas.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 4:25:01 PM   
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My goal is to slow his advance as long as i can and force him to committ a lot of forces and assets for that piece or real estate. Without Saumlaki Molu remains very voulnerable. We've shown him we can close it and bomb whenever we want, no matter how many subs or mines he places there.
And untill he has secured that area and conquested Saumlaki he won't be able to move any real further in the southern DEI...not with the full KB operating in those waters.

So yes, i think it's well worth the risks we're taking


Good for you, GreyJoy. Bleed him white for inconsequential malarial fens.

Where do you think he's going to go next (or try to go next) in the DEI? What are your plans and preparations for that?

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 4:57:54 PM   
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The operation was a success!
It went almost 100% smoothly. We dealed with lots of PTs, sinking 9 of them at Molu forcing 10 more to retreat from Saumlaki.
a full regiment and an AA bde was delivered, along with some 5000 supplies (not the 15k i had hoped for but still....).
Now we have 500 AVs at Saumlaki, with an Army HQ, some AA and a 150mm field guns artillery unit. Not bad.
He will need quite a lot of efforts to dislodge me from here.

We also downed 64 Beauforts over Saumlaki, losing 34 A6M2s over Selroe... that was a rookie unit and i have to blame myself to have involved it into the fight when those guys were far from being ready


ChickenBoy, i think his next moves will be:
1-SOPAC-SWPAC: a landing at Lunga, Torokina (or Shortland) and Finshtafen. All these places are constantly bombed, reconned and swept so i think he will make, sooner or late, a move here.
2-DEI: i think he will try to land somewhere south of Java...near Bali...but now that he knows my KB is pretty close i think he will think twice. The alternative is in western Sumatra, but again, with the KB so close that would be a risky operation.
3- CENTPAC: i think he may try for Wake or Marcus. Lately we've recieved a lot of radio traffic trasmissions from Midway. I am as prepped as one could be there. He will need a lot of bombings before trying to invade on both of those locations...

Still think his CVs are located somewhere in the I.O....i guess it's Perth where he's massing his amphib units

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 5:13:56 PM   
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Now the KB can retire, untouched, to safer waters. I'll try to hide it once again in the shadows, hoping to keep Brad wondering where it is.

This is also a good chance to give the Hiyo some deserved R&D time. The Katsuraki, along with 3 upgraded CVLs (Soho, Ryuo and Zuiho) just arrived today at Ambon and will rejoin the KB, while the damaged CV (Hyio) will get back to Tokyo for some refitting (she was hit 2 months ago by a 500lb bomb near Taberfane) and for the 4/43 upgrade (radar! and AAs).

Pretty happy to have escaped his subs in this operation. We managed to rush in unseen and doing everything in one night. I think Brad wasn't expecting this move...

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 5:28:16 PM   
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If i was him I would follow through with a strategy of pin and outflank. you are partly pinned around Molu and in the DEI, what could he do not to land a decisive blow, but to pin you elsewhere. Think "where could he land on 2 mutually supporting bases simultanously with a reasonnably big assault force and from there get the ball rolling ?". classic SWPAC doesn't fit the bill as it is very far, but maybe he could land on 2 or 3 three north NG bases simultaneously ? Not very practical, but just thinking out loud.

South Java and west Sumatra make lots of sense as well in that respect.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 5:40:25 PM   
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If i was him I would follow through with a strategy of pin and outflank. you are partly pinned around Molu and in the DEI, what could he do not to land a decisive blow, but to pin you elsewhere. Think "where could he land on 2 mutually supporting bases simultanously with a reasonnably big assault force and from there get the ball rolling ?". classic SWPAC doesn't fit the bill as it is very far, but maybe he could land on 2 or 3 three north NG bases simultaneously ? Not very practical, but just thinking out loud.

South Java and west Sumatra make lots of sense as well in that respect.



Yes. For those reasons i had heavily garrisoned everything north of Wewak. Untill that point he can invade at will...and i don't really matter. i'll fight, obviously, but he can take those bases (and accept the risks) if he really wants to. But Vanimo has a full division, Hollandia a reinforced regiment and it's all guarded up to Biak. Untill he neutralizes Rabaul that won't be, however, an easy trip. And the KB can be moved there in no time.
Consider also that he will need a full CV support to move any further than Finshafen...

Sumatra is well defended imho. I have created a very interesting "triangulation" between Sebang, Palemang and Benkoleng. I have more than 100 planes (Emilies, Mavis, G3N3s and Dinah-IIIs) searching the waters around Sumatra and i think i'll have enough pre-warning to be able to react properly.

At the moment the real "blind spot" is CENTPAC and NOPAC...but NOPAC is very well guarded and CENTPAC means for him to try a risky atoll-landing against well prepared defences and without any LBA aid. Moreover i still think most of his APA/AKAs are in SOPAC and Northern Oz at the moment

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 5:45:36 PM   
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Olorin (Nick) and I sent a turn to MichaelM to modify the game file in regards to the missing supply and fuel that this mod was short a few weekends ago. I know we brought this up after both of us had gotten into this mod and it was fixed in later versions. MichaelM need you to run the turn as Japan and then send him the game file before you do orders to make the changes. We had him add 1.8 million supply and 2 million fuel. Nick felt like it was Christmas.



Yes Micheal, that's exactly what i'll ask Brad ASAP

Don't know if it will be enough to stop the bleed of supplies of late war caused by the refineries not producing supplies, but it will certainly help us getting into 1944 at least At the present status i'm losing 5,000 supplies daily

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 7:03:31 PM   
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GJ will turn this into an early, very drawn out version of Okinawa for the Allies.  IE, the Allies will eventually prevail, but at what great cost!  By the end of '43, Q-Ball's going to be urging his Manhatten Project folks to make good on delivery of a working atomic bomb by March '44.



well dan, don't know. I'll try to force him to invest in the Saumlaki adventure but i guess Brad is too smart for that....I think the lack of Brad's activity during this operation is probably related to the fact that he already abbandoned the idea of rescuing that division at Saumlaki...he can efford to sit there for a long time knowing that i will never have the force to push him out.
However this situation suits me well. As Veji said i need to keep his vector here as stopped as possible and the best way to do that is to keep Molu isolated...


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 8:09:07 PM   
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Now we can say the whole operation "Saumlaki" was a success. We managed to deliver 10k more supplies, without losing a single ship! Brad didn't do anything, apart from sending some 16 Mitchells strafing my DDs at Saumlaki. We had 15 A6M5s on low naval CAP and we tangled with the escorting corsairs, losing the match (10 zeros lost), but the enemy bombers didn't score a single hit.

The KB is back in the shades....

Over Burma we ambushed once again one of his daily bombing runs... 90 enemy planes downed for 25 of my own (only 9 pilots KIA tough).

No sign of enemy's CVs...

Saumlaki is now secured for some more months me thinks...

The 1st Guards Division is now fully delivered to Vanimo (NG).

The KI-84a had its baptism of fire over Burma today. Did very very well!

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 8:22:23 PM   
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Oh and it seems like a good bunch of the RN (mainly DDs i'd say) is docked at Colombo....along with several TKs....we may think to pay a visit here somewhere in the near future....

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 8:52:38 PM   
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The KI-84a had its baptism of fire over Burma today. Did very very well!


He recently got three groups (75 planes) of P-47s at Eastern USA. It will be interesting to see which way they went - USA or Cape Town.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 9:21:27 PM   
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The KI-84a had its baptism of fire over Burma today. Did very very well!


He recently got three groups (75 planes) of P-47s at Eastern USA. It will be interesting to see which way they went - USA or Cape Town.


For sure there are P-47s at Vella La Vella and around Darwin. Then there are not less than 50 P-47s in Burma...

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 9:33:55 PM   
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I've lost stupidly 4 more DDs.... forgot them 2 hexes south of Selroe without any CAP...and they got mauled by enemy's SDBs....lost too many DDs so far...gotta be more carefull

For the rest...a very quiet day.

Allied APA/AKAs spotted at Rekata Bay


Sumlaki now has 24,000 men. NO PASARAN!

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 10:36:17 PM   
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Most of the American 18 plane FP groups can upgrade to SBDs. I count about 12 of these groups right now (April '43). I would put the -5 models on my CVs and use the -3 models for these groups. That's over 200 additional SBDs to worry about.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 10:51:42 PM   
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Most of the American 18 plane FP groups can upgrade to SBDs. I count about 12 of these groups right now (April '43). I would put the -5 models on my CVs and use the -3 models for these groups. That's over 200 additional SBDs to worry about.



to be honest Michealm, it's not his SDBs i'm fearing of. Those dive bombers are nasty but you can deal with them if you don't go overconfident and stay clear of enemy bases. Moreover, once his campaign in SOPAC will be over, those LBA SDBs will be useless untill he conquers a new base in the Mariannas

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/2/2013 11:16:33 PM   
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600k Oil/fuel are unloading at Sasebo today. The flow of fuel and oil is still too slow... the "convoy system" has prooved to be perfect against his subs, but not so much against the running time. Despite my efforts it seems to be almost impossible to use the convoy system and, at the same time, have a steady and fast flow of fuel/oil from the SRA to the motherland.
Our convoys now is basically composed of 3 CVEs (with 70 higly trained Kates), 5 AVs (with 45 Jakes on night duties) 15 Es, 7 DDs, 25 PBs, 80 TKs and 60 xAKs... but all these ships move slowly...and their load/unload ratio, even using different ports, is always pityfull slow....
The secret, so far, has been changing the plotted course of the convoy at every voyage...and QBall hasn't been able, yet, to determine where to place his hunters

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 4/3/2013 4:16:28 AM   
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Are you going to get Michaelm to add in the missing HI/LI? I recall there was a significant chunk of that missing as didn't you end out getting the Scen 1 industry totals with the Scen 2 forces?

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