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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 6:35:36 AM   
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The air-to-naval battle of Terapo is over.

Japan lost 150 planes to the 25 of the allies..Ouch!
However the allies should have lost 4 LSI(L) and not less than 4 APAs, along with 3 DDs... not that bad...but not enough either


The Allies really do not get many of these ships in 1943. It hurts to lose them. By the end of 44 he will be crapping them out in his morning sh*t but for now they are precious. So not a bad result.


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 11:12:21 AM   
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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 11:13:15 AM   
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The air-to-naval battle of Terapo is over.

Japan lost 150 planes to the 25 of the allies..Ouch!
However the allies should have lost 4 LSI(L) and not less than 4 APAs, along with 3 DDs... not that bad...but not enough either


Well, every engagement where allies loose APA/AKA and you don't loose CV's/CA i would consider outright Jap victory.
You are suppose to loose a bunch of planes/pilots at this point and they should be easy to replace, much easier than landing ships for US.
Considering that allies will have to make 20-30 jumps like that loosing 5-10 ships/jump in the long run would make US impotent for huge invasions, that will later come.

Not only did you inflict damage, you did something more important, showed your fist, your resolve, your ability to sacrifice men and material and mess up invasion with only LBA.
Be sure that he will evaluate what happened and what might have happened, he might even slow down paste of attacks to protect it better. In consequence you will gain time.

Next time put 500 planes on his axis of advance and yell: "Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war"



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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 1:10:18 PM   
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Although I'm coming to the party late here, I'd have to concur that this was a good result against an amphibious invasion at Terapo. It's a tough place to guard, and with those APA/LSI transports, it is really only a one day offload.

To get that many strikes through, take something for the move he made, is about all you can hope for there if he plays it well. If you take enough of those ships early enough, after a few of those he may be using some AP/AK ships in there, and then you might be able to get to troops before they hit the beaches.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 1:39:13 PM   
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The air-to-naval battle of Terapo is over.

Japan lost 150 planes to the 25 of the allies..Ouch!
However the allies should have lost 4 LSI(L) and not less than 4 APAs, along with 3 DDs... not that bad...but not enough either


Yeah but the allies gotta a lotta ships... Still, most of your AC loss is in fighters and you were prety much defensive so you lost much fewer trained pilots - yes?

The nice thing about this stage of your war is you can still crank out lotsa aircraft with your economy. Can I ask how robust your pilot training program is?

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 5:05:15 PM   
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Thank you guys!
My training program is pretty good i'd say. What i'm always missing are torpedo bombers...i can't wait to get the Peggy-T so that i can start train army pilots for Naval-T
I have 300 IJN fighter pilots ready in reserve and some 1500 Army ones. But i still need to play carefully...those reserves can be eaten up pretty fast!

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 5:09:43 PM   
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A great day. We ambushed the usual allied naval mily run against lautem.
With perfect coordination, air and naval forces of the Empire annihilated a strong enemy SCTF, sinking 1 CA and 4 CLs and not losing a single ship (just 25 Kates)





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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lautem at 72,115, Range 11,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 3
BB Fuso
BB Ise, Shell hits 2
CA Mogami, Shell hits 3
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 2
DD Shigure
DD Harusame
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 2
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 1
DD Uranami

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Java, Shell hits 4
CL Sumatra, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Richmond
CL Nashville, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
CL Denver
DD Cony
DD DeHaven
DD Nicholas, Shell hits 2
DD Radford, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Bancroft, Shell hits 2
DD Frazier, Shell hits 1


Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 39% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards

Task forces break off...


Our ships are in perfect conditions!!!

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Then our brave RO sub sunk another enemy CL

Sub attack near Lautem at 72,115

Japanese Ships
SS RO-34

Allied Ships
CL Sumatra, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Frazier



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Darwin at 74,120

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 74

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed, 16 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Denver, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Richmond
CL Java, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD DeHaven
DD Radford


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We won't last long....
Ground combat at Terapo (96,127)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13336 troops, 179 guns, 115 vehicles, Assault Value = 374

Defending force 5060 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 166

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 121

Japanese adjusted defense: 251

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
416 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 44 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
436 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Assaulting units:
8th NZ Brigade
2nd Australian/B Division
2nd Australian/A Division
2nd Australian/C Division

Defending units:
Maizuru 4th SNLF
15th Garrison Unit
4th Indpt SNLF Coy







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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 5:10:44 PM   
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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 5:17:40 PM   
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Well, i think if you were right before, saying Brad would be more honest after the the Terapo raid, now that effect has been even amplified. we showed him we can still fight and win a surface engagement. A Brookling Class CL, a Cleveland Cladd CL, 1 CA and 2 small CLs...not bad, not bad

My DDs performed particularly well, keeping honest his own DDs (superior to mines) and allowing our CAs to do most of the job

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 7:11:07 PM   
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That is definitely a good day!

It'll be interesting how this changes the daily actions in the DEI and if he continues to use naval bombardment as often. The best part is no losses for the IJN.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 7:17:34 PM   
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Well Erik, he kept on bombing. Today was Babar's turn. But any cruiser sunk is a good news to me. They are the most scaring weapons the allies have imho.

Terapo is heavily swept by 200 enemy fighters, with more on LRCAP. I won't be able to do much i fear... more betties lost because i'm a dumb*ss, leaving them on naval attack with long range settings

More bombings on Tarawa, Ontong Java and Woodlark Is.
The whole SOPAC theatre is ready to crumble... damn... i'm thinking about what is wise now... abbandon the whole SOPAC and retire to a more northern line?...mmm.... I haven't enough troops to really defend all those dot bases... and i'm already heavily committed everywhere...


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 8:23:28 PM   
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Terapo falls. That's no good. Too fast. I hoped to last for a week or two...but those assies were far better than the 7th US Div at Tulagi and probably my guys performed more poorly...anyway, it fell, and now we have a torn in our side. I've seen what Obvert has suffered once Terapo fell...The whole theatre is now in great danger. We need to move fast and start relocating my forces.
The allies landed at Vella La Vella on this very same day. Now Munda, Lunga and Russell Island are bypassed... and the enemy is now at the very gates of Bouganville... damn, against Rader it took me months to move from Tulagi to Shortland...while it took only 4 weeks to Brad...

We tried to ambush his bombers over Tarawa...with rookies... and we lost 20 planes for no gain. Stupid me!

More naval bombings at Salroe this time... More recons on western sumatra....
Heavy naval activity at Colombo lately...should i start to fear a landing on my indian ocean flank? Were are his damned CVs????

Oh wait, we have a good news...we torpedoed a CVE...losing a precious big sub... only one torp so i don't think she'll go down




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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 10:37:03 PM   
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We swept Terapo with 80 Georges and 70 Tojos... and we obtained an ashtonishing 35 to 2 . But i confirm the fact that the whole PGN is now doomed. No matter what.

The news of the day is that allied CVs are spotted at Colombo!!!!!!  We moved to the Adamans some 20 Patrol and recon planes (we need to be sure!), along with 42 Tojos and 45 Georges. Jills and Vals are relocating from Singapore and Java, while 2 fast transport TFs are ordered to be loaded at Singapore, with 10,000 supplies and some troops.
1 CVE and 1 CVL, along with 1 CA, 3 CLs and 12 DDs are warming their engines at Singa.

Man...if Brad has moved his CVs to India that only means he has kept his Marines in reserve for my Indian flank...

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 10:51:02 PM   
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Ok what are we doing?
We are reinforcing Kavieng, Manus, Aitape, hollandia, Biak and Kusiae.

We won't try to defend lower PGN. It's a lost war. We will fight back however. Don't wanna give him an easy advance...but won't sacrifice important troops and ships for those places.

Studying the map my idea is that once the allies have PM and lower PGN, the next step to be defended is everything which is north of Wewak.
Truk is getting an Air HQ and a brigade, along with some good AA units.
Kusiae and Ponape are becoming true fortresses. supplies will arrive soon and with those two heavily fortified, the allies will have to chose another route once they conquer the Marshalls

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 10:51:55 PM   
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Yep, it takes a long time and some effort to move his CVs to the Indian Ocean. You can expect something major there.



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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/17/2013 10:55:40 PM   
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Yep, it takes a long time and some effort to move his CVs to the Indian Ocean. You can expect something major there.




yup. i need some confirmations first. We had some heavy volume sounds at Colombo in the last week, but the Nells on Nav search did spot only some AOs, TKs etc... but today a CV TF was spotted...but the DL was so low that i cannot be sure. Tomorrow we'll know...

I can assemble some decent air power in the area. We have air HQ at Sebang, Benkoleng, Port Blair and Rangoon. Another air HQ is coming to Bankok but won't arrive untill next month...



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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/18/2013 3:30:36 PM   
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Can you get subs with aircraft up there?

So just saying his carriers are up there - where is he weakest on the map now that you can maybe counter-strike?


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/18/2013 5:02:29 PM   
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I would start to march and/or air transport out some of your troops from Port Moresby.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/18/2013 11:10:00 PM   
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Probably a false allarm. No CV spotted and there seems to be no threat coming from Colombo in the short term. However the latest improvements of allied shippings in the area will make me more carefull there.
I'm keeping a decent amount of nav search in the Bay of Bengal...just in case. Ships and planes are moved back to singapore.

The allies keep on bombing Babar-Salroe-Saumlaki, while Lautem and Dabo are daily hit by his 4Es...

We keep on moving troops everywhere...

I have a plan to evacuate PM garrison...while we managed to get out a couple of SNLF units from the isolated lower Solomons.

The allies have consolidated at terapo and now 100 fighters are based there...scary!

The first Sentai of 30 Frank "a" is now operative in Burma. Our air force is getting stronger. Tojo "c" are almost operative and for July we'll start producing 200 of them monthly.

So far so good.

Reinforcing Biak and Hollandia

Sebang just got 2 more artillery units and some more supplies.


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 6:11:04 AM   
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The first Sentai of 30 Frank "a" is now operative in Burma. Our air force is getting stronger. Tojo "c" are almost operative and for July we'll start producing 200 of them monthly.


That nice. 392mph of Frank should give You decent results against allied fighters. It is not enough against P-47 but still good improved from Tojo 376mph.
Also having all planes with armor should help.

Having mix of Frank/Tojo in air should work well i think and if we add to that N1K1 for firepower You look ok at lest on paper.
Those three are best You can get for next 1,5 year i think. I will watch close how they perform together

EDIT: What date is standard Frank arrival date in mod you are playing. Frank In July, nice.



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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 3:05:41 PM   
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The first Sentai of 30 Frank "a" is now operative in Burma. Our air force is getting stronger. Tojo "c" are almost operative and for July we'll start producing 200 of them monthly.


That nice. 392mph of Frank should give You decent results against allied fighters. It is not enough against P-47 but still good improved from Tojo 376mph.
Also having all planes with armor should help.

Having mix of Frank/Tojo in air should work well i think and if we add to that N1K1 for firepower You look ok at lest on paper.
Those three are best You can get for next 1,5 year i think. I will watch close how they perform together

EDIT: What date is standard Frank arrival date in mod you are playing. Frank In July, nice.




Franks are nice plane but the difficulty of using level 3 service aircraft makes them and the George less than ideal. This is especially true when Allied air strength really starts to grow. The real danger is when they are stationed at airbases that are not on rail lines-which the Japanese player cannot really avoid all the time. My standard Allied practice it to hit the base with a massive HB attack with lots of sweeps and fighters on LRCAP over the target. Allies might take some loss but it generally puts the base out of action and those Japanese planes that were not shot down will be on the ground in a damaged state. Then they can be bombed at leisure and destroyed on the ground with little interference.

As the Allied player, I really do not find the Japanese 2nd generation fighters to be much of a problem. The only time they are a danger is when they catch a bombing raid without escort. But that can be avoided most of the time.


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 4:49:47 PM   
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The first Sentai of 30 Frank "a" is now operative in Burma. Our air force is getting stronger. Tojo "c" are almost operative and for July we'll start producing 200 of them monthly.


That nice. 392mph of Frank should give You decent results against allied fighters. It is not enough against P-47 but still good improved from Tojo 376mph.
Also having all planes with armor should help.

Having mix of Frank/Tojo in air should work well i think and if we add to that N1K1 for firepower You look ok at lest on paper.
Those three are best You can get for next 1,5 year i think. I will watch close how they perform together

EDIT: What date is standard Frank arrival date in mod you are playing. Frank In July, nice.




Franks are nice plane but the difficulty of using level 3 service aircraft makes them and the George less than ideal. This is especially true when Allied air strength really starts to grow. The real danger is when they are stationed at airbases that are not on rail lines-which the Japanese player cannot really avoid all the time. My standard Allied practice it to hit the base with a massive HB attack with lots of sweeps and fighters on LRCAP over the target. Allies might take some loss but it generally puts the base out of action and those Japanese planes that were not shot down will be on the ground in a damaged state. Then they can be bombed at leisure and destroyed on the ground with little interference.

As the Allied player, I really do not find the Japanese 2nd generation fighters to be much of a problem. The only time they are a danger is when they catch a bombing raid without escort. But that can be avoided most of the time.


Sure, but what else we can do?

Because of SR 3 of Frank, Tojo is more important plane in late war that many players think. And that way i hope that mix of Frank a/b/r, Tojo IIc, and N1K2 can give decent results.


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 5:40:23 PM   
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Well, i think if you were right before, saying Brad would be more honest after the the Terapo raid, now that effect has been even amplified. we showed him we can still fight and win a surface engagement. A Brookling Class CL, a Cleveland Cladd CL, 1 CA and 2 small CLs...not bad, not bad

My DDs performed particularly well, keeping honest his own DDs (superior to mines) and allowing our CAs to do most of the job




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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 10:14:45 PM   
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We managed to save 3 more SNLF units from lower Solomons, while the enemy managed to completely isolate Lunga, Tassafaronga, Russell island, Rennell Island and Munda. They have conquered everything up to Shortland Island. That's bad. Very bad.
But i have a plan. A strategic one.
Well, it's not really a plan...more a general view.

The idea is to slowly fall back, while using the time gained to create a series of strongholds in my back. The goal is to defend Bouganville, New Britain, denying him any further easy advance on that vector, forcing him to move along eastern NG...it will take him time.
At the same time Truk, Ponape, Kusiae, Eniwetok will be heavily garrisoned. He won't be able to invade there without a TOTAL carrier superiority...so for some time he will have to frong leap and the only way is in NG... i think i can apply the same strategy there. If i defend from Wewak up north i can slow him down, and in the meanwhile heavily garrison the area around Biak. To advance towards Biak he will need again a total air and naval superiority... which will take time.

Let's see if it works.

Frank, Tojos, Georges... none of them will be able to hold. I know it.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 10:17:01 PM   
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The first Sentai of 30 Frank "a" is now operative in Burma. Our air force is getting stronger. Tojo "c" are almost operative and for July we'll start producing 200 of them monthly.


That nice. 392mph of Frank should give You decent results against allied fighters. It is not enough against P-47 but still good improved from Tojo 376mph.
Also having all planes with armor should help.

Having mix of Frank/Tojo in air should work well i think and if we add to that N1K1 for firepower You look ok at lest on paper.
Those three are best You can get for next 1,5 year i think. I will watch close how they perform together

EDIT: What date is standard Frank arrival date in mod you are playing. Frank In July, nice.




Frank"a" arrives in 1/44. But CrSutton is right. The Frank isn't decisive... the SR is simply too high. Even if you win a A2A fight, the next day they will all be grounded... which is a PITA. Same for Georges... you really have to use them carefully and always keep the plane fatigue ratio as low as possible

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 10:25:14 PM   
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Christmas Island I.O. just reached its final defensive posture. 1 "small" division, 2 Base forces, 2 AA units, 1 SNLF unit. Should be enough with 5 forts.

The enemy subs lately have greatly encreased their activity around HI, CENTPAC and China sea. They probably got an upgrade lately and Brad sent them back to PH for upgrades...now that they are all upgraded, they surely are hunting...but not many losses lately

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 10:25:47 PM   
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Well, i think if you were right before, saying Brad would be more honest after the the Terapo raid, now that effect has been even amplified. we showed him we can still fight and win a surface engagement. A Brookling Class CL, a Cleveland Cladd CL, 1 CA and 2 small CLs...not bad, not bad

My DDs performed particularly well, keeping honest his own DDs (superior to mines) and allowing our CAs to do most of the job






Thx Jeff, nice to have you here

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 10:51:30 PM   
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July 18, 1943

We managed to save 3 more SNLF units from lower Solomons, while the enemy managed to completely isolate Lunga, Tassafaronga, Russell island, Rennell Island and Munda. They have conquered everything up to Shortland Island. That's bad. Very bad.
But i have a plan. A strategic one.
Well, it's not really a plan...more a general view.

The idea is to slowly fall back, while using the time gained to create a series of strongholds in my back. The goal is to defend Bouganville, New Britain, denying him any further easy advance on that vector, forcing him to move along eastern NG...it will take him time.
At the same time Truk, Ponape, Kusiae, Eniwetok will be heavily garrisoned. He won't be able to invade there without a TOTAL carrier superiority...so for some time he will have to frong leap and the only way is in NG... i think i can apply the same strategy there. If i defend from Wewak up north i can slow him down, and in the meanwhile heavily garrison the area around Biak. To advance towards Biak he will need again a total air and naval superiority... which will take time.

Let's see if it works.

Frank, Tojos, Georges... none of them will be able to hold. I know it.


Definitely the right plan. Now it's all about how much you put where and what he thinks he needs to take those spots. If he's got to prep, but only preps two divisions, then ends up needing three, that's just more time gained for you.


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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 10:56:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: obvert


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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

July 18, 1943

We managed to save 3 more SNLF units from lower Solomons, while the enemy managed to completely isolate Lunga, Tassafaronga, Russell island, Rennell Island and Munda. They have conquered everything up to Shortland Island. That's bad. Very bad.
But i have a plan. A strategic one.
Well, it's not really a plan...more a general view.

The idea is to slowly fall back, while using the time gained to create a series of strongholds in my back. The goal is to defend Bouganville, New Britain, denying him any further easy advance on that vector, forcing him to move along eastern NG...it will take him time.
At the same time Truk, Ponape, Kusiae, Eniwetok will be heavily garrisoned. He won't be able to invade there without a TOTAL carrier superiority...so for some time he will have to frong leap and the only way is in NG... i think i can apply the same strategy there. If i defend from Wewak up north i can slow him down, and in the meanwhile heavily garrison the area around Biak. To advance towards Biak he will need again a total air and naval superiority... which will take time.

Let's see if it works.

Frank, Tojos, Georges... none of them will be able to hold. I know it.


Definitely the right plan. Now it's all about how much you put where and what he thinks he needs to take those spots. If he's got to prep, but only preps two divisions, then ends up needing three, that's just more time gained for you.



Well, my plan is simple: 1 Division at Kavieng. 1 Division at Manus, 1 reinforced division for Bouganville, 1 Division for Truk, 1 Bde for Kusiae, 1 Division for Ponape and another one for Biak... clearly i'll need time to buy the needed units...but i think it's doable.

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RE: LOST VICTORIES - 2/19/2013 11:05:47 PM   
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I would add to Obvert's post that if you retain a Navy and air force you can, at the right times, use a mobile reserve to reinforce a base that can hold for a week or two on its own. This will change the odds to the point where you force Q to unexpectedly need three divisions instead of two, if you catch my meaning.

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