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RE: Back from London - 10/28/2012 9:53:26 AM   
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Thanks John and Crib!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 06, 42

The 6th is a key day.
The enemy arrived. 2 battlewagons bombarded Baker Island, sucking up all the supplies i've delivered in the last month (well were pretty few to be honest...didn't have the time to develop or garrison Baker as i would have liked).
Then the BB retired and the amphib TF arrived. Looks like QBall is using his AKs and APs.
Two regiments and a combat engineers regiment for Baker. A risky choice cause he didn't know what i had there (he never reconned Baker throughout the last months...he kept on reconning Tabiutea...that's where i was waiting for him.... so i could have had there 6,000 men well dug in...instead of the tiny garrison i had).

The Nevada and Meriland retired towards Canton Is... and the passed over one of my Glenn-equipped subs... the I-28 (the hero of the day!) put, in two different attacks, not less than 5 torps into Meryland's belly.... and the battleship went down! Yes!! (confirmed sunk...2 float planes are reported lost on the ground in the intel screen).

The enemy CVs are 4 hexes south of Baker, along with several more major warships (BBs, CAs etc etc).

My Nells today didn't fly... but, looking at the combat replay, it seems that the AP we sunk yesterday was loaded up with half of a RCT...not a bad prey

Ok, now the hard decisions...

The KB needs to make a 13 hexes trip (hopefully a 7/6 trip) at flank speed to be in the right position to strike tomorrow. The sys damage is growing higher every day proceeding at max speed and the fuel is running low... but i don't have time to refuel at Tarawa...i'd lose a whole day for that. I'm leaving behind all the ships that are low on fuel (the BB Haruna and some 10 DDs) and moved out of the KB the two CVEs actually embedded (Unyo and Tahyo)...they are too slow and i cannot risk not to be there on time.

Same goes for subs. All of them are proceeding at flank speed from Kwajalein and from the southern seas. It will be a short trip for them... by the time they arrive they will have, more or less, dried up all their tanks...so it will be a "single-shot-mission".


To be honest i don't understand why Baker... it cannot be built (its max is 3/3) to any interesting level and it doesn't pose a threat to my interests in the Gilberts or Marshalls.
Is he intentionally driving here my attention in order to get a shot on my CVs? is he looking for a CV-CV fight?.
By now he must have all his 6 CVs combined togheder... which means 540 enemy carrier planes to face... i know what it means...with the DBB AA modifications and with the reduced torpedo accurancy, a carrier fight in summer 1942 is not a bad option anymore for the allies. But hey, better to fight them now than in 1943 when the Essex CVs arrive!



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Night Naval bombardment of Baker Island at 149,136

Allied Ships
BB Nevada
BB Maryland

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 4
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 2

BB Nevada firing at Baker Island
BB Maryland firing at Baker Island


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Pre-Invasion action off Baker Island (149,136)

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
APD Kane
APD Hatfield
APD Talbot
APD Manley
APD Ward

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

APD Kane fired at enemy troops
APD Hatfield fired at enemy troops
APD Talbot fired at enemy troops
APD Manley fired at enemy troops
APD Ward fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Baker Island (149,136)

TF 200 troops unloading over beach at Baker Island, 149,136

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)



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Invasion Support action off Baker Island (149,136)

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
APD Kane
APD Hatfield
APD Talbot
APD Manley
APD Ward

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

APD Kane fired at enemy troops
APD Hatfield fired at enemy troops
APD Talbot fired at enemy troops
APD Manley fired at enemy troops
APD Ward fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards



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Sub attack near Canton Island at 152,140

Japanese Ships
SS I-28

Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Duncan

SS I-28 launches 6 torpedoes at BB Maryland
I-28 diving deep ....
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan attacking submerged sub ....
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Canton Island at 152,140

Japanese Ships
SS I-28

Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Duncan

SS I-28 launches 6 torpedoes at BB Maryland
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub






In China we attacked Chikkiang once again... forts dropped to level 1!.... sooner or later i'll get there!



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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42169 troops, 417 guns, 239 vehicles, Assault Value = 1254

Defending force 41868 troops, 168 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1294

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 787

Allied adjusted defense: 1258

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2097 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 144 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Guns lost 67 (2 destroyed, 65 disabled)
Vehicles lost 43 (2 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
457 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 93 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
51st Division
4th Tank Regiment
15th Division
68th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
9th Prov Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
79th Chinese/B Corps
46th Chinese Corps
78th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese/C Corps
7th Artillery Regiment


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Ground combat at 82,40 (near Sian) (this is a single corp, south of Tienshui and north west of Sian, that was isolated during the japanese penetration)


Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28065 troops, 162 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 991

Defending force 10195 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 269

Japanese adjusted assault: 392

Allied adjusted defense: 67

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
741 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st NCPC Infantry Brigade
69th Division
59th Division
2nd NCPC Infantry Brigade

Defending units:
93rd Chinese Corps




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Ground combat at Baker Island (149,136)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3259 troops, 36 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Defending force 581 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Allied adjusted assault: 16 ...gosh, if i only had something more at Baker

Japanese adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Baker Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
581 casualties reported
Squads: 36 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
274 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
145th Infantry Regiment
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
53rd Nav Gd /3







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RE: Back from London - 10/28/2012 10:03:40 AM   
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Nice work with I-28. Baker is a good search/recon base for any activity later in the area. He might have known from sigint that you didn't have much there, and took a shot. But that's what you want, material for territory. A BB plus a few more ships for a marginally useful island.

Now a potential CV battle. We're all on the edge of our seats!



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RE: Back from London - 10/28/2012 10:52:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

Nice work with I-28. Baker is a good search/recon base for any activity later in the area. He might have known from sigint that you didn't have much there, and took a shot. But that's what you want, material for territory. A BB plus a few more ships for a marginally useful island.

Now a potential CV battle. We're all on the edge of our seats!





The fact is that, fighting there, i'm at the very edge of my LBA (G3M3s from Makin) and so we will both only rely on CVs for the upcoming battle...which isn't exactly what i was planning to do for my grand strategy.
Also he could now easily move back at flank speed and the CV battle will be avoided. I won't chase him down into his own waters. It's all up to him now...would he engage or would he run back? If i was him i'd run....

I'd love to get some of those AP/AKs... but i don't think he'll stay there.
The only hope i have is that my CVs are still undetected. But he knows i had in the area the Yamato so he may guess that the KB can't be that far away...

Well, we'll see...


For what concerns China, things are really developing well. The fall of Tienshui was very very important for my chinese strategy. Once Chikkiang will fall too, the pressure on his outer perimeter will be really great and i truly think that we will be able to get to the Chungking plains by the end of the year

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RE: Back from London - 10/28/2012 3:34:00 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 07, 42

Once again i arrived too late. As i feared, QBall ran away like the Devil himself was on his heels! every single ship he had completely disappeared out of my naval search (even the Glenns didn't spot anything)...only the amphib TF was spotted 1 hex north of Canton is, but my Emily was shot down by CV CAP (so the CVs must still be nearby...).

Bradd caught me off guard once again. I tought he was coming for Tabiutea and i would have been in time to engage if that was the real target...while Baker was simply too far away from Ponape to arrive in time.

So, at the end of the 7th, i lost Baker and this is the second outposts i lose without being able to fight...well, i sunk a BB, an AP and probably a CL...but the allies are getting closer and closer to my perimeter...

Wise move by bradd anyway...i would have done the same. A kind of a boom&zoom tactic...it's working so far

Buying out in these days the 2nd Tank division...will be sent to Singapore and then to Burma along with the 33rd Division


In NOPAC, this time a bombardment run against Amchitka... lost of ships up there... i wonder if another invasion is coming

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Night Naval bombardment of Amchitka Island at 158,52

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CA Vincennes firing at 63rd Naval Guard Unit




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RE: Back from London - 10/28/2012 10:34:04 PM   
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Aug 8-10 1942

As the enemy fleet vanished, the combined fleet moved north back to Ponape.
Moving my glens-equipped subs to Palmyra and Pago Pago...wanna see where his ships went...

The air bombing against Amichtika goes on. 60 P-39s level bomb everyday my outpost in the Aleutinas.

The allies sent nearly 250 planes against the 55th Division advancing towards Paoshan (western China). Luckly they didn't score a single hit, but this isn't a good sign...means he's growing bolder in this area... while my air forces are bound to defend my bases and cannot be used on LRCAP roles...
Sending more supplies from HI to Burma, along with the 33rd Division.

Ha-45 Engine accelerated up to 12/42! Very good!!!


Ground combat at 76,53 (near Kweilin)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49993 troops, 448 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 1427

Defending force 21544 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 408

Japanese adjusted assault: 1112

Allied adjusted defense: 424

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1783 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 160 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6270 casualties reported
Squads: 238 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 255 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 16 (3 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Division
40th Division
22nd Division
60th Division
23rd Army
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
4th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
2nd Chinese Base Force

In China we re-opened the RR from Kweiling to Changsha.... more enemy squads in the bag!

Something strange happened at Java.... Brad sent a sub-commando against Tjepoe (west of Sosarbaja)... the base is undefended and the commando immediately conquered it... there are oil wells there and some refineries .... my bad i didn't consider this option.... now i'll have to get those bastards, hopefully without destroying the wells in the process



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RE: Back from London - 10/29/2012 12:33:27 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 12, 42

So the sub commando vanished with the same fast pace as they arrived.
Tomorrow my units will retake control of the oil wells,...hopefully those bastards didn't damage them too much...Really a smart move by Brad

It seems that the Aleutinas are again getting QBall's full attention. For the first time in the war the B17s showed up en masse. From Addak arrived several of these monsters, heavily escorted by P-39s... Amichtikia ISland is doomed and so are those units garrisoning it...too bad. Lost too many good units in the Aleutinas...for no gain at all. I should have evacuated all those units when i still had time to do so...now he's too strong up there to try to save them...

Nothing else has happened.

Decided to assemble the 1st Tank Division and use it in China instead of Sumatra. I'll move to Sumatra a chinese division recently bought out. The tanks can make a lot of difference against the chinese...not so against the western armies... so why not?!




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Morning Air attack on Amchitka Island , at 158,52

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 31
P-39D Airacobra x 24
P-40E Warhawk x 25

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15


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Morning Air attack on Amchitka Island , at 158,52

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 23

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9








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RE: Back from London - 10/29/2012 2:48:42 PM   
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If you don't want to send in fast transports to pick them up and have Emilys free you might evac at least partials of the troops at Amchitka to rebuild them quicker. I think you can make it from Paramushiro Jima.

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RE: Back from London - 10/29/2012 3:57:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

If you don't want to send in fast transports to pick them up and have Emilys free you might evac at least partials of the troops at Amchitka to rebuild them quicker. I think you can make it from Paramushiro Jima.



Nice Idea obert! The Emilies can do it! I will try to find a unit (maybe i'll rotate it in its naval search role with some G3M3s) and will send it to Paramushiro ASAP


13 Aug 1942

A bad day for my ASW. We lost a TK full of fuel north of Brunei and another xAK full of troops at Wake (no matter how much we try, our DCs really suck!!!)

KB reached Truk. Will refuel and repair some sys damage accumulated during the useless rush towards Baker.

At Baker enemy is loading/unloading...and i can't do anything to stop it

For Wake my defences will now be the following:

Wake CD gun detachment
1 SNLF unit (48 AVs)
1 (strong) IJA Battaillon (nearly 88 AVs)
1 Artillery unit (45mm anti tank guns)
1 Tank company (with 12 brand new medium tanks)
1 Construction Bn

All for 5879 men (stacking limit is 6,000)

Shouldn't be an easy target...

Same goes for Marcus (more infantry because there's no static CD unit there)

Not bad i'd say






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RE: Back from London - 10/29/2012 9:51:53 PM   
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I don't think you should beat up on yourself over the troops trapped in the Aleutians. They are diverting him from attacking in other areas, and if you had sent major forces to guard the Aleutians he would have just switched his offensive somewhere else. It is the essence of the Japanese problem that they cannot be strong everywhere and the Allies will eventually recon/probe and discover weak spots.

I believe you said you were going to build up the Kuriles early on? If that has been done and he cannot easily advance there, the Aleutians are just another area soaking up his troop strength, just as they did yours. Your offensive there did serve a purpose. Retrieve what fragments you can and concentrate on building the Kuriles more. Just don't plan to have an outpost at Petropavlovsk!

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RE: Back from London - 10/30/2012 1:10:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I don't think you should beat up on yourself over the troops trapped in the Aleutians. They are diverting him from attacking in other areas, and if you had sent major forces to guard the Aleutians he would have just switched his offensive somewhere else. It is the essence of the Japanese problem that they cannot be strong everywhere and the Allies will eventually recon/probe and discover weak spots.

I believe you said you were going to build up the Kuriles early on? If that has been done and he cannot easily advance there, the Aleutians are just another area soaking up his troop strength, just as they did yours. Your offensive there did serve a purpose. Retrieve what fragments you can and concentrate on building the Kuriles more. Just don't plan to have an outpost at Petropavlovsk!



Thanks BB,

it's always hard to accept the fact that you cannot defend well everywhere and that you have to leave your brave men to die in isolated outposts without the chance of fighting for their lifes... but you're right: better The Aleutinas and Baker than somewhere else!

Yes, i have based already the equivalent of 2 divisions in the Kuriles, with 6 AA units, several base forces and 1 Air HQ. Would be crazy for him to get here now...and i'm willing to reinforce them even more during the next 6 months...wanna have my backdoor well shut!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 13-14, 42

Two days of ASW headhaches....despite all my efforts (with air and naval ASW), his subs keep on hitting my ships... gotta say that in this mod the american subs will be able to get historical results...even with the nerfed Mk14 torpedoes, i'm losing more than 1 ship per day

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Sub attack near Jesselton at 66,83

Japanese Ships
TK Amakusa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Chosa Maru
TK Oyashima Maru
TK Azuchisan Maru
TK Hirota Maru
PB Sinko Maru
PB Ikuta Maru

Allied Ships
SS Salmon


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Sub attack near Wake Island at 136,98

Japanese Ships
xAKL Katsura Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Chokai Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-23

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Sub attack near Yap at 95,97

Japanese Ships
PB Hinode Maru #20, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC Ch 15
SC Ch 14
TK Shoyo Maru
TK Nikkoku Maru
TK Nichiei Maru
TK Kanze Maru
PB Tamaura Maru
PB Takunan Maru #8

Allied Ships
SS Haddock


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Sub attack near Tarawa at 136,128

Japanese Ships
xAK Genoa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Myoken Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-32




In Burma, he sent once again several bombers, heavily escorted, to attack my 15th Army advancing towards Paoshan (western China)...


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Morning Air attack on 55th Division, at 64,45 , near Paoshan

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 23
Blenheim I x 12
Blenheim IV x 14
B-26B Marauder x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 7th Ind.Tank Brigade, at 64,45 , near Paoshan

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15
B-26B Marauder x 14
P-38E Lightning x 25




In NOPAC, every day 50 B17s attack Amichtika Is, escorted by more than 100 fighters...


The good news of the day comes from CENTPAC... shippings near Baker Is...without any air cover... and my crack G3M3s arrive at 1000 ft (wanted to avoid the radars)...3 torps on an loaded xAP and she goes down... I think it's the very same RCT that got half destroyed when we sunk (always the same group of Nells) the AP that was bringing it to Baker during the invasion. Very well!

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Baker Island at 149,136

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
APD Talbot
xAP President Buchanan, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP President Tyler

Allied ground losses:
1714 casualties reported
Squads: 86 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 52 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 35 (35 destroyed, 0 disabled)




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Ground combat at 82,40 (near Sian)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27409 troops, 162 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 821

Defending force 5435 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 660

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 165 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
3153 casualties reported
Squads: 76 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 555 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (9 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
69th Division
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Division

Defending units:
93rd Chinese Corps


We finally get rid of that damned 93rd Corp...now we can advance again!



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RE: Back from London - 10/30/2012 1:27:25 PM   
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Nice hit on the AP. I can't remember getting one of those all loaded up.

His subs are dong extraordinarily well. How is your ASW/search working in those areas? Looks like 3 of these are more open ocean situations. Tough to do anything out there.

I still lose some when I search heavily, but not as many. If I can get night search, day search and ASW there are virtually no hits, but that only happens near very important bases.

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RE: Back from London - 10/30/2012 1:39:52 PM   
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Forgot to say: american CVs spotted at PH by my Glens.... my subs have been spotted too so i'll have to move back to safety waters...

Heavy activity at Perth...will send some more subs to discover what's happening there...




quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

Nice hit on the AP. I can't remember getting one of those all loaded up.

His subs are dong extraordinarily well. How is your ASW/search working in those areas? Looks like 3 of these are more open ocean situations. Tough to do anything out there.

I still lose some when I search heavily, but not as many. If I can get night search, day search and ASW there are virtually no hits, but that only happens near very important bases.


Well, i cannot have heavy air search everywhere. Around Singapore and Truk we're doing fine (but i have more than 200 naval s./ASW planes there)...but, as you know, you cannot cover every single water hex..

But at Wake, Tarawa and Makin i have heavy naval search...so those hits aren't that justified! Also i had a dedicated ASW both at Tarawa and Makin so i am pretty astonished by the results he got here

Yes, a fully loaded xAP always feels good when it goes down... but i've sunk so few ships so far that it really doesn't hurt him much

Sending back 2 CVs to HI for AA upgrades (Soryu and Hiryu), while the rest of the KB will remain at Truk for some days in order to repair some sys damage...and untill i know where his CVs are going from PH

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RE: Back from London - 10/30/2012 2:53:08 PM   
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How many US CVs have you spotted at Pearl? I'm asking becuase I guess you are left w/ 4CVs only in Truk, right? Not the best ratio to go against USN CVs at this stage of the war, IMHO. I mean... NON FAR CA**ATE! (don't get crazy)

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RE: Back from London - 10/30/2012 3:00:48 PM   
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Responded to your PM about ASW from my limited experience. Re-size your FPs and upgrade them to Jakes (later some go up to Norms due to their increased range). Their bomb load is to small to sink a sub, but I want to known where they are so I can try to sink them with my hunter-killer groups. Japan's escorts get better as time goes on, so hopefully your shipping will not be sunk as much.

I forgot to ask if your using the Beta patches. If so, then MichaelM has added a 'Coastal' routing to keep your TFs in shallow ocean hexes and make your Type 95 DC have a better chance of hitting. You and Olorin (Nick) are both playing Allied players that are familiar with Japan as players. It makes it harder to route your transports as we know most of them. I cannot wait to 43 for my subs!!

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RE: Back from London - 10/30/2012 6:48:20 PM   
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Well..no, I won't risk anything stupid with my CVs against the 6 USN Carriers (well, if he suddenly invades the Mariannas i guess i'll have to do something ) Won't stay passive, but won't go crazy neither.
I still have a force of nearly 600 Carrier planes...not that bad anyway.

Micheal: yes, i'm using that new feature (coastal movement) but his subs do like even shallow waters...go figure!

I'm now, once again, changing my convoy/ASW assets. Will try to concentrate more and avoid any auto-run convoy (the CS ones i mean)...doing all manually...let's see if it works.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 15, 42

In China, another attack at Chikkiang dropped the forts down to zero. Now i need to rotate one of my divisions (the 61st ID is ready to rotate in) and we'll then begin to attack again. Now that the forts are gone, should be only a matter of time (and supplies!)



Another damned sub attack in a shallow water hex

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Sub attack near Tarawa at 136,128

Japanese Ships
xAK Hamburg Maru, Torpedo hits 1
PB Myoken Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-32



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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41864 troops, 415 guns, 237 vehicles, Assault Value = 1223

Defending force 44817 troops, 207 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1446

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 1123

Allied adjusted defense: 1576

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1352 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 100 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 60 (27 destroyed, 33 disabled)
Vehicles lost 49 (2 destroyed, 47 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
560 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
68th Division
51st Division
15th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Army
21st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
53rd Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
9th Prov Chinese Corps
78th Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese/C Corps
7th Artillery Regiment





Usual enemy bombings at Amichtika Island (NOPAC) and at my 15th Army near Paoshan (Burma-Western China).

My guess? QBall will go for another amphib operation against Amichtika Island very soon. My mavis are spotting too many ships up there to be just a routine work...plus he has being bombing the hell out of it for weeks now (he moved up here not less than 50 B17Es and some 150 fighters on escort role)

very tempted to bring my Combined fleet into play...I'm still in time to recall those CVs sent home for upgrades... What to do? Risk a fight so far from home? He will have a lotta of LBA support there...while i'll have none...

What would a wise man do? Wait for a better opportunity (but we know that the more i wait, the stronger the USCVs become) or cast the dice and play with the wheel of fortune?



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RE: Back from London - 10/30/2012 8:29:47 PM   
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even with the nerfed Mk14 torpedoes, i'm losing more than 1 ship per day


I notice a fair number of the American successes are from S-boats. Does this scenario have them use the less powerful but more reliable Mark 10's?

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RE: Back from London - 10/31/2012 10:37:10 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

even with the nerfed Mk14 torpedoes, i'm losing more than 1 ship per day


I notice a fair number of the American successes are from S-boats. Does this scenario have them use the less powerful but more reliable Mark 10's?


Sincerly i don't know. Afaik the Mk10s aren't changed in this Mod, but i may be wrong.

The fact is that those damned S-boats simply sit in a base hex and wait for preys...and there seems to be no way for me to chase them down or force them to abbandon their position...

Agust 16th 1942

Luckly no sub attacks today. I'm calling back all the CS convoys and reorganizing them. Will do it manually...takes so much time but the prize is high.

Today we tried something new, just to keep him honest. Didn't pay off as i wished, but it gave me the evidence that my defensive system in the Solomons works as intended.

Briefly....

Yesterday we spotted a 7 ships TF at Portland Roads. Recon showed no fighters there, only bombers. At the same time, at Cairns, some ships were spotted in the harbour, with no fighter cover.

As you may remember, my defensive plan for the Solomons/NG area relied on a series of AFs, connected to an Air Division/Army HQ, so that the HQ could coordinate the attacks from several multiple AFs at the very same time, providing coordination and torpedoes for all of them.
This time we tried how it worked with the Gasmata Air HQ.
We moved 27 Zeros + 54 Netties to Buna, 27 Oscars to PM and 18 Betties to Lae, with the support of the Mavis based at Woodwork Island.
27 Betties didn't find the target and got back :-/
The rest did what they were supposed to, and attacked the enemy shippings at Portland Roads... QBall had moved some P-40s there and we lost 11 Zeros for 2 P-40s (no crack pilots thank God), but all the Netties got through and sunk 3 xAKLs...ok, not worth the loss of 11 zeros probably, but i can efford that loss...and now he knows that if he wants to bring shippings up there he will have to cover them with some decent CAP.
The system, btw, works as intended. The coordination was more than decent and all my bombers did use their torpedoes.
In the Afternoon 18 Betties from Lae arrived at Cairns, bombing the port and placing a couple of bombs on a pair of xAKLs... no losses on my part... once again just to let him know that he cannot base ships wherever he wants...i'm not sleeping even if i'm not attacking.

Lost contact of enemy CVs...my subs around PH are chased down by several ASW TFs... moved some 3 Glen-equipped subs between PH and Addak...let's see if i'm right

More ships are gathering near Addak...counted at least 4 TFs with not less than 10 ships each...

Usual bombings of Amichtika by the B-17s...

The 33rd Division just arrived at Rangoon.

In Northern China my Tank corp is reaching Humruchi, chasing down what was left of the chinese northern Army.

We're sending some more troops to Northern Oz and western Sumatra. An Infantry Regiment is being loaded with destination Port Blair.
A mixed Bde and a Infantry Regiment are now guarding Ramree Island (Burma).

Collecting some engineers units all around the map: they will be moved to Biak and Hollandia, in order to start building the second defensive line in Northern NG.


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RE: Back from London - 10/31/2012 12:33:35 PM   
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Strategic considerations:

With september 42 being at the gates, i can draw some conclusions:

Japan has managed to reach and conquer a more-or-less historical perimeter, but failed to advance any further.
Moreover Japan failed to attrit the allied air and naval forces.

This will result into the creation of a stronger allied force much earlier than usual.
In Burma, for example, i'm already heavily outnumbered in terms of planes.
I have 100 bombers and 300 fighters, while my recon says he has in Assam more than 600 fighters and some 450 bombers.

Same goes for other areas, for sure.

My initial plan, anyway, remains the same: use the extra perimeter conquered (say northern Oz and Aleutinas) in order to gain time to build up a strong defensive line.

My defensive line, obviously, won't be a continuos Maginot-style defence. I'm building "defensive areas", to be used like strongpoints. These "Areas" are groups of interconnected bases (mainly air bases) built around an Air HQ. These bases will have a "core", a central base with lots of AA, Eng and the air HQ.  In the back of these "areas" there will be a naval base, with a decent port and a reserve of Infantry (like to have at least 2 divisions per every reserve).
All the other bases which are not included into these "areas" won't be built nor garrisoned. The idea is to force him to approach and land where i do want him to do...

I'll try later to better explain this concept (possibly with maps).

BTW the Solomons/NG defences are already up. He's gonna have a lot of problems if he choses this path of advance.
We're also in good shape in the Marshalls/Gilberts area.
Wake and Marcus should be safe.
The Kuriles are well garrisoned for 1942

Now it's time to build Timor, Biak/Hollandia, Siberoet/Padang/Benkoleng. Also the Adamans are getting stronger and built up decently

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RE: Back from London - 10/31/2012 1:49:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
I notice a fair number of the American successes are from S-boats. Does this scenario have them use the less powerful but more reliable Mark 10's?


I've got an RA3 PBEM and a DBB-C with the trimmings both running. The S boats and the Mk 10s run about the same in each. I tend to throw them in areas where I want actual results.

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RE: Back from London - 10/31/2012 3:47:19 PM   
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Ser Greyjoy, where is the stalwart knight of the realm that successfully attacked Hokkidate (sp?) and landed so boldly in Honshu itself?  Where, I ask?  Who is this imposter posing as one of the greatest AAR writers in WitP history?  This must be the Greyjoy that cowered in the dungeons of Dreadfort and survived on an irregular diet of rats and roaches!  Indeed, that characterless creature had long since passed on in my thoughts;  but, now he reemerges.

I have never read such a whiny, pessimistic "strategic summary" in all my days?  The fact is that China (which you barely mention) is all but gone and will be gone by the end of 1942.  You, meantime, cry an ocean over the Allied landings on Baker Is.  Baker Island!!  WHO DEY?!!  Good grief, man.  In real life the Allies were landing at Tulagi/Lunga Point in August 1942.  You fret and wring your hands over the Aleutan Is. like they were Toyko Bay.  Here's a news flash...the Aleutans were never anything more than a speed bump.  Baker IS. is too insignificant to speak of.

Hummmm, Loses.  Let me think....where is the fleet of Allied cruisers that started out in the Phillipines and DEI.  Oh yeah...they are sunk, along with some of the British cruisers that start in Capetown and Ceylon.  No CVs, but did you really think a player of his caliber would do many risky things with CVs before late 1942?  It would have been a coup to get a couple of them, but that's not to be expected.

The Burma Buffer.  It's Aug. 1942 and the Allies usually have air equality or superiority in Burma/Assam at this point.  So what.  Attrite his pools as best you can.  Do it over your bases as much as you can.  Seems to me you have been doing that okay.  You know the result of that, having been on the receiving end against Rader.

Oh oh, my, oh my, you only have the historical perimeter (never mind China).  Sob, weep, wring hands.  So what?  If you have been fortifying as you have noted now and again, that perimeter will serve nicely to slow the tide until those Japanese wonder weapons emerge and win the war for the Empire.  When he has to come to you ratehr than you to him, the combination of LBA, CV AC and fortifications may end the war in your favor.

Oh, and on the sub war thing, you have had some unusually bad luck with more hits than is usually the case, but stop whimpering about the lack of ASW.  The real Little Yellow Bastards had little to no surface ASW at this stage of the war.  They had a tough time stopping the subs even when the Allies had terrible torp detonators and torps.  Their BEST ASW weapon in 42-43 was the airplane.  Saturate your convoy lanes with bombers trained on ASW and the US sub losses will mount.  But just accept the fact that the American sub is going to be a major menace throughout the war and do the best you can to minimize it.  Whining incessantly about it will not solve anything!

Get on with the job at hand, Ser Greyjoy, or find a job more suitable to your talents ....like dungeon dweller and court jester at Dreadfort!  But, you really don't want to go there do you?

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RE: Back from London - 10/31/2012 5:30:35 PM   
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Ser Greyjoy, where is the stalwart knight of the realm that successfully attacked Hokkidate (sp?) and landed so boldly in Honshu itself?  Where, I ask?  Who is this imposter posing as one of the greatest AAR writers in WitP history?  This must be the Greyjoy that cowered in the dungeons of Dreadfort and survived on an irregular diet of rats and roaches!  Indeed, that characterless creature had long since passed on in my thoughts;  but, now he reemerges.

I have never read such a whiny, pessimistic "strategic summary" in all my days?  The fact is that China (which you barely mention) is all but gone and will be gone by the end of 1942.  You, meantime, cry an ocean over the Allied landings on Baker Is.  Baker Island!!  WHO DEY?!!  Good grief, man.  In real life the Allies were landing at Tulagi/Lunga Point in August 1942.  You fret and wring your hands over the Aleutan Is. like they were Toyko Bay.  Here's a news flash...the Aleutans were never anything more than a speed bump.  Baker IS. is too insignificant to speak of.

Hummmm, Loses.  Let me think....where is the fleet of Allied cruisers that started out in the Phillipines and DEI.  Oh yeah...they are sunk, along with some of the British cruisers that start in Capetown and Ceylon.  No CVs, but did you really think a player of his caliber would do many risky things with CVs before late 1942?  It would have been a coup to get a couple of them, but that's not to be expected.

The Burma Buffer.  It's Aug. 1942 and the Allies usually have air equality or superiority in Burma/Assam at this point.  So what.  Attrite his pools as best you can.  Do it over your bases as much as you can.  Seems to me you have been doing that okay.  You know the result of that, having been on the receiving end against Rader.

Oh oh, my, oh my, you only have the historical perimeter (never mind China).  Sob, weep, wring hands.  So what?  If you have been fortifying as you have noted now and again, that perimeter will serve nicely to slow the tide until those Japanese wonder weapons emerge and win the war for the Empire.  When he has to come to you ratehr than you to him, the combination of LBA, CV AC and fortifications may end the war in your favor.

Oh, and on the sub war thing, you have had some unusually bad luck with more hits than is usually the case, but stop whimpering about the lack of ASW.  The real Little Yellow Bastards had little to no surface ASW at this stage of the war.  They had a tough time stopping the subs even when the Allies had terrible torp detonators and torps.  Their BEST ASW weapon in 42-43 was the airplane.  Saturate your convoy lanes with bombers trained on ASW and the US sub losses will mount.  But just accept the fact that the American sub is going to be a major menace throughout the war and do the best you can to minimize it.  Whining incessantly about it will not solve anything!

Get on with the job at hand, Ser Greyjoy, or find a job more suitable to your talents ....like dungeon dweller and court jester at Dreadfort!  But, you really don't want to go there do you?

Your Ever Watcful Master


My Master,

i'm really sorry if i had given you the idea that i'm wheeping and crying like Lady Tanda (was her?) when you, in your loving hug, have locked her into her confortable turret (she felt so well that she was always hungry and she ended up eating her own fingers).
I am, in fact, pretty happy about my achievements. It's been a real challenge to start playing japan against QBall. And i really fell in love with the "reds". I had great ideas and plans when i started...thinking it would have been easy to conduct a "second phase" of expansion like Rader or others did. They make it seem easy! Soon enough i discovered how tough is to play as Japan and i re-directed my expectations.
Now i'm building my defences and i'm confident that, if QBall gives me the time i need, they can rapresent a very good challenge, even for a player of the caliber of QBall.

I don't complain for the loss of Baker and the Aleutinas. Those pieces of real estate really mean nothing strategically. What i complain is that i was, both of the times, caught with my pants down. My plan was to be able to react fast enough everywhere, in order to smash his amphib efforts when his means were still weak (no APA/AKA and few AP/AKs)... but Brad was everywhere fast and he came both of the times, using a very good camuflage that prevented any real intervention of mine... At Baker i was close...but one or two days too late. In the Aleutinas i was completely off balance... only the disposions of my subs gave me the chance to counterattack a bit (damaging a british CV, a british CVL and sinking an AK and one BB).

In Burma i should have been more aggressive... but i never had enough supplies to conduct an offensive air war. Now he's too strong and, as you say, i wanna attrit him OVER my territory.
My plan for Burma is pretty clear in my mind. I'll try to use the lessons learnt in china about stacking limits. Will defend mostly on jungle hexes and will try to force him to use unconfortable roads of advance. In the meanwhile i'm digging in wherever i can. The Monsoon will be over soon...and i hope to be ready by that time.

China is doing well, i know.

But It could go better, I should have exploited my initial successes and push a lot more harder, not worrying too much for the protection of my flanks. I should have been a Rommell with the Ghost Division, while i've been a Montgomery after El Alamein...

But, yes, i cannot complain strategically.

Yes, the allies lost quite a bunch of cruisers, but i lost 2 CAs and 2 CLs and 18 DDs (way too much) against only 14 allied DDs. And i wasn't able to attritt his merchant fleet like i should, while he sunk way more merchants than me.

You are right (as always) about the real japanese ASW capabilities... but it's always hard to adapt yourself yo a new status (this mod) when you tought you could have done at least as good as Rader (who managed to defeat my sub fleet pretty easily).
I'm investing a HUGE amount of efforts in air ASW...and things have improved so far from the early 42... i think i just have to live and accept the fact that us subs will be a PITA for the whole war.

Thank you Master. Your words have surely given me more will to fight, more strenght on my capabilities and to my spirit.

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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 11:41:42 AM   
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We reached Aug 22, 42.

Nothing much is happening. Brad is surely getting ready for his next push, while we are busy organizing our defences.

In NOPAC the daily milky runs of his B17s keep on bombing Amichtika, while we started to evacuate Attu Island garrison by an airbridge.
My Mavis keep on reporting several TFs approaching Addak Is from the east... but i lost contact with the enemy CVs. they were at Pearl 9 days ago, but now they disappeared...his ASWTFs forced my glen-equipped subs to move away from PH. I decided to move 2 subs up north, to keep an eye on the sealanes between PH and the Aleutinas, while 2 more are south, between Canton, Palmyra and PH, to see if he's transfering his forces back again into Centpac.

I have a sub flottilla ready in the Gilberts, another one in the Kuriles, and one more, in reserve, at Truk. In total i have nearly 30 subs ready in this part of the map. Few more are repairing at Tokyo.

In China the northern fronts doesn't move as fast as i wish. The terrain and the stacking limits incredibly help the defenders and our divisions, despite being in supply and always well supported by tanks and arty, really struggle to get rid of the enemy positions, even if they are out of supplies and have already forced to retreat... but we will get there!
The 1st Army is coming back from Lanchow and, with its 3 undefeated divisions (this army was the one who won the battle for Sian!), they should be able to break the enemy front

The 41st Division has been bought out and will be sent, in a month or so, to Sebang, along with 2 Artillery units and some engineers.

In Burma we're sending reinforces and supplies...badly needed! (see map for the defensive plan).

In southern DEI, we've decided how to settle up our defences (see map). Engineers and base forces are enroute.

A6M5 advanced to 1/43 (good) and should be available for 10/42 (hopefully).

The pilot situation is very good (Brad's one too, i bet):
IJN reserve pool:
330 fighter pilots
500 bomber pilots
400 patrol pilots (naval and ASW)

IJA reserve pool:
800 fighter pilots
800 bomber pilots
350 patrol pilots (naval and ASW)


Ground combat at Hami (81,17) (UMRUCHI, with its oil fields, is next... then we will have finished the whole northern China!)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1536 troops, 0 guns, 284 vehicles, Assault Value = 176

Defending force 4060 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 101

Japanese adjusted assault: 193

Allied adjusted defense: 22

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hami !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
I-16-III: 10 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
Units pursuing 1

Allied ground losses:
1802 casualties reported
Squads: 74 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 40 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 8

Assaulting units:
9th Tank Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
12th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
9th Separate Brigade
6th Chinese Base Force
15th Chinese Base Force
10th Chinese Base Force
8th Chinese Base Force
19th Chinese Base Force
5th Chinese Base Force
21st Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27640 troops, 306 guns, 316 vehicles, Assault Value = 882

Defending force 25065 troops, 189 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 462

Japanese adjusted assault: 395

Allied adjusted defense: 241

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
913 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1240 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 140 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 24 (2 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Assaulting units:
41st Division
13th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
37th Division
8th Recon Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
12th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
38th Chinese Corps
4th Group Army
1st Construction Regiment
85th Chinese Corps
57th AT Gun Regiment







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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 11:43:12 AM   
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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 1:00:37 PM   
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I havn´t really played the japanese side, but Akyab always looked like a deathtrap for the japanese to me. Its easy to escort the bombers bombing it into rubble, you can sweep and escort from serveral bases even with the short legged fighters. The supply flow is a nightmare even for the allies till they build up Cox and Chittagong, should be even worse for the japanese. But, i know its bad for the japanese if its build up from the allies.

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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 3:35:51 PM   
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Southern DEI defensive plan




Looks good to me. I am doing exactly this for my game, but a year on from where you are now. I'l be posting soon in my AAR. Interesting to see the similarities and differences.

I thought about Saumlaki. Not sure if it's better to have the HQ so close to OZ or farther back. It's in sweep range so could be obliterated by 4Es with escorts there.

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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 5:45:53 PM   
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I havn´t really played the japanese side, but Akyab always looked like a deathtrap for the japanese to me. Its easy to escort the bombers bombing it into rubble, you can sweep and escort from serveral bases even with the short legged fighters. The supply flow is a nightmare even for the allies till they build up Cox and Chittagong, should be even worse for the japanese. But, i know its bad for the japanese if its build up from the allies.


Akyab is impossible to keep supplied for Japan if the allies are bombing it. But, at the very same time, i wanna fight for it untill i can. Once Akyab is in allied hands, things will look even grimmer for me in Burma. I can sacrifice a couple of divisions for it. With some forts, in jungle terrain and with the stacking limit, the allies may find not so easy to dislodge me.
I'll be in the same position as the chinese in China. I've seen what inferior troops can do in good terrain, even if unsupplied.... they can hold! wanna test it.


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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 5:57:46 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 24, 42

Today the allies started to bomb Mytikina. They arrived en masse...and cause lots of trouble. With the monsoon, that whole area is out of supplies so i cannot keep an air force there. Only land troops. The 15th Army is there, guarding...while 4 enemy units suddenly appeared on the flank of the RTA Cav division.... Sending more forces up there...thank God the RailRoad is in my hands!

A big supply convoy (80k tons) is getting close to Singa...in a couple of weeks i'll have again decent supplies in Burma.

In China we got another 1-1 in the hex southwest of Tienshui...but the enemy is shooting his last bullets here...a shock attack is ordered for tomorrow...then we'll get rid of the stack that is trapped east of this position (some 29,000 men).


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Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 10
Blenheim I x 12
Blenheim IV x 3
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16
B-26B Marauder x 14
P-38E Lightning x 25

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 26



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Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 12
Blenheim IV x 11
B-26B Marauder x 3

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12



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Morning Air attack on Myitkyina , at 64,42

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15
B-26B Marauder x 11

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 24



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Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27332 troops, 305 guns, 316 vehicles, Assault Value = 848

Defending force 20356 troops, 152 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 253

Japanese adjusted assault: 369

Allied adjusted defense: 247

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
216 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2584 casualties reported
Squads: 105 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 46 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (5 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
41st Division
15th Tank Regiment
37th Division
13th Tank Regiment
8th Recon Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
76th Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
4th Group Army
1st Construction Regiment
38th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
57th AT Gun Regiment





I'm close to buy the 8th division. A crack division with 80 experience! The question is: where to send it? At first i wanted to send it to the Mariannas, just to start to have there something consistent... but, at this point, it's probably a waste of resources...

Sumatra? Burma? Timor? Or SOPAC?

At the moment my IJA big units disposition is the following:

I have 2 Divisions and 1 Regiment in SOPAC
3 Divisions in Java
2 Divisions at Sinagapore (ready to be moved to Sumatra)
1 Division at Timor
1 Division at Manila (this will have to get rid of Cebu first, where a PA division still lives!)
2 bought out divisions are still fighting in china
7 Divisions + 4 regiments in Burma (not counting the RTA units)
1 Regiments in the Adamans
1 Divisions + 3 BNs and 1 regiment in the Kuriles

What would you suggest?






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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 6:21:33 PM   
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Moving to the Kuriles 36 Nells, 27 Kates, 18 Vals, 36 Zeros and 48 Jakes. This will rapresent, for the upcoming fall/winter 1942, the resident air force for the 5th fleet HQ in the Kuriles.

I'm also shifting some air forces from SOPAC to DEI. 54 Netties, some 60 Zeros, 30 Oscar IIa (yes, it arrived!) and several bomber groups with ASW duties.

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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 6:56:40 PM   
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Regarding the S-boats... Where do they operate? As you remember from your Allied game, the S-"electric boats" all have a very short range. Just 4000 or 5000nm compared to 8000+ of most other subs... That should limit their usefulness. How many are there any way - 4 in Manila and X number more elsewhere, in the beginning of the war?

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RE: Back from London - 11/1/2012 7:12:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Erkki

Regarding the S-boats... Where do they operate? As you remember from your Allied game, the S-"electric boats" all have a very short range. Just 4000 or 5000nm compared to 8000+ of most other subs... That should limit their usefulness. How many are there any way - 4 in Manila and X number more elsewhere, in the beginning of the war?


Most of them operate in CENTPAC, so i think their bases are somewhere at PH, or Christmas Island or Pago Pago, while those who operate in the DEI i'm pretty sure come from Cocos Island.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 25, 42

Mitikina and Amichtika are bombed again...very heavily!

But today we celebrate...the breakthrough we were waiting for in Northern China has arrived.... The front is again on the move...and waiting for the 1st Army to arrive

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Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 27104 troops, 306 guns, 316 vehicles, Assault Value = 821

Defending force 18447 troops, 144 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 180

Japanese adjusted assault: 713

Allied adjusted defense: 139

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
294 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5096 casualties reported
Squads: 249 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 202 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (18 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 9
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
41st Division
13th Tank Regiment
37th Division
15th Tank Regiment
8th Recon Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
12th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
1st Construction Regiment
85th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
4th Group Army
80th Chinese Corps
57th AT Gun Regiment





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