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Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 6:25:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Am I the only Tennis fan here? The British look like they have their best chance for a champion in decades! Nadal got knocked out in the 2nd round and he is in Murray's side of the draw.

Britan Andy Murray has made the Wimbledon Semi Finals the last 3 years, and lost there every year. In 2009 he lost to Roddick (who isn't what he use to be), in 2010 to Nadal and 2011 to Nadal. Murray should by all rights make his first ever Wimbledon final! England's drought could be over!!! Well at least to have a British player in the Finals. It's more likely Murray would lose to Djokovick but if Federer can somehow knock Novak out then I think Murray has an even shot against the aging Fed who hasn't looked to sharp... at least not in his last match!
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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 6:29:08 AM   
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Am I the only Tennis fan here? The British look like they have their best chance for a champion in decades! Nadal got knocked out in the 2nd round and he is in Murray's side of the draw.

Britan Andy Murray has made the Wimbledon Semi Finals the last 3 years, and lost there every year. In 2009 he lost to Roddick (who isn't what he use to be), in 2010 to Nadal and 2011 to Nadal. Murray should by all rights make his first ever Wimbledon final! England's drought could be over!!! Well at least to have a British player in the Finals. It's more likely Murray would lose to Djokovick but if Federer can somehow knock Novak out then I think Murray has an even shot against the aging Fed who hasn't looked to sharp... at least not in his last match!


Sounds promising. I used to be a tennis fanatic back in the days of Lendel, Becker, Edburgh, Agassi, Sampras, Graf, Seles et al. Haven't paid too much attention to it in years though. Good luck to the Brits.

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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 6:33:57 AM   
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Am I the only Tennis fan here? The British look like they have their best chance for a champion in decades! Nadal got knocked out in the 2nd round and he is in Murray's side of the draw.

Britan Andy Murray has made the Wimbledon Semi Finals the last 3 years, and lost there every year. In 2009 he lost to Roddick (who isn't what he use to be), in 2010 to Nadal and 2011 to Nadal. Murray should by all rights make his first ever Wimbledon final! England's drought could be over!!! Well at least to have a British player in the Finals. It's more likely Murray would lose to Djokovick but if Federer can somehow knock Novak out then I think Murray has an even shot against the aging Fed who hasn't looked to sharp... at least not in his last match!
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flanyboy - Andy Murray is Scottish.... that sort of thing tends to wind our brothers north of the border right up


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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 6:35:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: flanyboy

Am I the only Tennis fan here? The British look like they have their best chance for a champion in decades! Nadal got knocked out in the 2nd round and he is in Murray's side of the draw.

Britan Andy Murray has made the Wimbledon Semi Finals the last 3 years, and lost there every year. In 2009 he lost to Roddick (who isn't what he use to be), in 2010 to Nadal and 2011 to Nadal. Murray should by all rights make his first ever Wimbledon final! England's drought could be over!!! Well at least to have a British player in the Finals. It's more likely Murray would lose to Djokovick but if Federer can somehow knock Novak out then I think Murray has an even shot against the aging Fed who hasn't looked to sharp... at least not in his last match!
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flanyboy - Andy Murray is Scottish.... that sort of thing tends to wind our brothers north of the border right up


Oh I am well aware of that... but he would TECHNICALLY count as a British Champion and the English consider him one of their own... can't they all just share him? lol...

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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 6:38:20 AM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 6:39:57 AM   
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Am I the only Tennis fan here? The British look like they have their best chance for a champion in decades! Nadal got knocked out in the 2nd round and he is in Murray's side of the draw.

Britan Andy Murray has made the Wimbledon Semi Finals the last 3 years, and lost there every year. In 2009 he lost to Roddick (who isn't what he use to be), in 2010 to Nadal and 2011 to Nadal. Murray should by all rights make his first ever Wimbledon final! England's drought could be over!!! Well at least to have a British player in the Finals. It's more likely Murray would lose to Djokovick but if Federer can somehow knock Novak out then I think Murray has an even shot against the aging Fed who hasn't looked to sharp... at least not in his last match!
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flanyboy - Andy Murray is Scottish.... that sort of thing tends to wind our brothers north of the border right up


Oh I am well aware of that... but he would TECHNICALLY count as a British Champion and the English consider him one of their own... can't they all just share him? lol...
Warspite1

There's no TECHNICALLY about it; Andy Murray is British so of course we will all be delighted if a Briton actually won at Wimbledon for the first time since the days of Fred Perry....

BUT what I am saying is that the Scottish are (rightly) very proud of their own and calling Murray an Englishman (which effectively is what you said) is guaranteed (not unreasonably) to cheese them off somewhat.

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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 8:31:33 AM   
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Am I the only Tennis fan here? The British look like they have their best chance for a champion in decades! Nadal got knocked out in the 2nd round and he is in Murray's side of the draw.

Britan Andy Murray has made the Wimbledon Semi Finals the last 3 years, and lost there every year. In 2009 he lost to Roddick (who isn't what he use to be), in 2010 to Nadal and 2011 to Nadal. Murray should by all rights make his first ever Wimbledon final! England's drought could be over!!! Well at least to have a British player in the Finals. It's more likely Murray would lose to Djokovick but if Federer can somehow knock Novak out then I think Murray has an even shot against the aging Fed who hasn't looked to sharp... at least not in his last match!
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flanyboy - Andy Murray is Scottish.... that sort of thing tends to wind our brothers north of the border right up


Oh I am well aware of that... but he would TECHNICALLY count as a British Champion and the English consider him one of their own... can't they all just share him? lol...
Warspite1

There's no TECHNICALLY about it; Andy Murray is British so of course we will all be delighted if a Briton actually won at Wimbledon for the first time since the days of Fred Perry....

BUT what I am saying is that the Scottish are (rightly) very proud of their own and calling Murray an Englishman (which effectively is what you said) is guaranteed (not unreasonably) to cheese them off somewhat.

It was a typo... we American's tend to use the words British and English interchangeably, even though I am very well aware they are different and I would offend many if I were to use it around said Britons.

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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 8:36:09 AM   
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Am I the only Tennis fan here? The British look like they have their best chance for a champion in decades! Nadal got knocked out in the 2nd round and he is in Murray's side of the draw.

Britan Andy Murray has made the Wimbledon Semi Finals the last 3 years, and lost there every year. In 2009 he lost to Roddick (who isn't what he use to be), in 2010 to Nadal and 2011 to Nadal. Murray should by all rights make his first ever Wimbledon final! England's drought could be over!!! Well at least to have a British player in the Finals. It's more likely Murray would lose to Djokovick but if Federer can somehow knock Novak out then I think Murray has an even shot against the aging Fed who hasn't looked to sharp... at least not in his last match!
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flanyboy - Andy Murray is Scottish.... that sort of thing tends to wind our brothers north of the border right up


Oh I am well aware of that... but he would TECHNICALLY count as a British Champion and the English consider him one of their own... can't they all just share him? lol...
Warspite1

There's no TECHNICALLY about it; Andy Murray is British so of course we will all be delighted if a Briton actually won at Wimbledon for the first time since the days of Fred Perry....

BUT what I am saying is that the Scottish are (rightly) very proud of their own and calling Murray an Englishman (which effectively is what you said) is guaranteed (not unreasonably) to cheese them off somewhat.

It was a typo... we American's tend to use the words British and English interchangeably, even though I am very well aware they are different and I would offend many if I were to use it around said Britons.
Warspite1

Understood - I just wanted to point it out so that you didn't end up in a long winded verbal exchange with some disgruntled braveheart fanatic instead you ended up in one with an Englishman...go figure?

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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 9:09:00 AM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 9:18:23 AM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 9:27:27 AM   
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Ah, I remember watching Virginia Wade win the 1977 Womens Wimbledon final - inthe Queens Silver Jubilee year. Now it's her Diamond Jubilee - maybe it's in the Stars for Murray to do it?
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Good point AndyG1!! Yes lets hope . I remember that year very well. Everyone thought it was going to be a Sue Barker vs Chris Evert final, but Sue mucked up (the beginning of the end for her ) against Bette Stove, while Virginia performed heroics to beat Evert.

In the final it was typical British - Virginia went and lost the first set and it all looked like it was going to end in tears before she recovered to win the next two and the match

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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 10:35:50 AM   
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Edit: Therefore it would be more fair if a Swede won the tournament again. It is to long since Borg and Edberg ruled at the Wimbledon court.

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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 8:02:59 PM   
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It is not that long ago since a English gentleman won Wimbledon. Peter Colt won the tournament 2004.

Edit: Therefore it would be more fair if a Swede won the tournament again. It is to long since Borg and Edberg ruled at the Wimbledon court.
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Sadly a dopey film is the only way a Briton will win Wimbledon in my lifetime....

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RE: Wimbledon - 6/30/2012 11:35:43 PM   
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I don't think Murray will have a real chance....Djokovick, Federer and Del Potro are still on the way.
only del potro is in his side of the draw though so he has a good shot of his first finals at least.

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RE: Wimbledon - 7/1/2012 8:08:38 AM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 7/5/2012 8:56:55 PM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 7/5/2012 9:35:56 PM   
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I hate tennis. This sport should be banned for all I care So may the referee win!

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RE: Wimbledon - 7/5/2012 10:26:09 PM   
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But Tullius forgot the Euro league.

I know it was a punch under the belt. And I really do feel bad about pulling it off.

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RE: Wimbledon - 7/6/2012 6:55:43 PM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 7/6/2012 6:57:52 PM   
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W1 don't want to sound mean, as I know this is going to hurt.
But Tullius forgot the Euro league.

I know it was a punch under the belt. And I really do feel bad about pulling it off.

Mat
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No, he did say Champions League. And don't worry, I support Spurs so I have a sense of humour

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RE: Wimbledon - 7/6/2012 9:50:56 PM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 7/6/2012 9:58:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		You've got the champions league and just below is the Euro League.
International european football, if you can't/ don't qualify for the champions league you get placed in the euro league.
To qualify you need to finish top of your National league. Depending on the National ranking a certain amount of teams can enter/qualify for the Champions League. England get 4 places.


Spurs finished in a good position to enter the champions league, but due to Chealsea winning the trophy and are thus allowed to defend their title next season, pushed Spurs into the Euro league.


Champions league is big money. The Euro league is a "little" less.


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RE: Wimbledon - 7/6/2012 10:06:15 PM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 7/6/2012 10:39:08 PM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 7/6/2012 10:42:49 PM   
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It's true, the Spurs fans have to be rather angry! You manage to finish the season among the 4 top teams and then Chelsea (horrible domestic league season) goes and wins the final (which I did NOT want them to win! Pure catenaccio, horrible, destructive football! )...

And oops, you are forced to play the Europa League (aka UEFA Cup). Now that's some bad luck!

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RE: Wimbledon - 7/7/2012 1:33:07 AM   
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Oh an dyes us Spurs fans are upset. Lose Harry aswell and get a Chelsea reject AVB. Lose Modric one of our best players and god knows who else this season who would have stayed if Redknapp was still there. Spurs have never done well under a foreign manager either.

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RE: Wimbledon - 7/7/2012 1:42:07 AM   
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Andy Murray...when he wins he says he is Scottish when he loses he says he is British.



And the English media referred to Henman as English (not British) whilst Murray is British (not Scottish)

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RE: Wimbledon - 7/7/2012 4:54:26 AM   
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RE: Wimbledon - 7/7/2012 6:06:38 AM   
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Andy Murray...when he wins he says he is Scottish when he loses he says he is British.

And the English media referred to Henman as English (not British) whilst Murray is British (not Scottish)
Warspite1

Not this rubbish again

Tim is English and British
Andy is Scottish and British

There is no media conspiracy. As always, the terms are used interchangeably. Andy Murray is our most successful men's player since before WWII - let's just enjoy it shall we?

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RE: Wimbledon - 7/7/2012 6:13:55 AM   
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LOL
It's true, the Spurs fans have to be rather angry! You manage to finish the season among the 4 top teams and then Chelsea (horrible domestic league season) goes and wins the final (which I did NOT want them to win! Pure catenaccio, horrible, destructive football! )...
And oops, you are forced to play the Europa League (aka UEFA Cup). Now that's some bad luck!
Warspite1

Bad luck? Rubbish. We blew a 10 (13) point lead over Arsenal (20 mins into the derby match in Feb). Then, at the end of the season, Arsenal slipped up against Norwich and handed us back the advantage. All we had to do was beat almost relegated Aston Villa. We could not even do that.....

The rules are the rules - everyone knew them - we needed 3rd to guarantee CL football. We blew it. That's not bad luck, that's Spurs being Spurs.......

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