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OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 2:31:25 AM   
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Hey just took these pics today at a local airport event, thought you guys might like to see this old restored warbird....she flew down here for the event & i belive she's been all arcoss the U.S. to airshows in the past so maybe some of you have already seen her...

It's a P-63 thats based outa Rexburg Idaho, at the Legacy Flight Museum fyi...




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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 2:32:22 AM   
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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 2:33:12 AM   
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The last pic i got of her




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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 9:08:54 AM   
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Now thats the P39 variant I want !!!!!!!

I did mod the downfall game and added them, better than the P40 that starts on Okinawa, not as good as the P47 or P51.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 9:18:17 AM   
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Still Zero/Oscar meat to us JFBs, really love when Allied players use them on CAP, and better still for escort.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 1:16:11 PM   
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Man, she had to be a B_____ to land. Nose high like that. Especially on a rough field. Glad I didn't have to drive her .... Proud of the guys who did.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 4:43:09 PM   
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Still Zero/Oscar meat to us JFBs


Not a credit to the game design by the way. The P-63 was faster, more maneuverable, and in every way superior to the A6M. It was what the P-39 *should have been* if they P-39s original intended role as a high altitude interceptor had been supported.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 4:44:41 PM   
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Coming from you, that's entirely worthless and without merit.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 4:47:14 PM   
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Coming from you, that's entirely worthless and without merit.


Forty thousand posts in ten years Terminus? You are amazing. With your busy work schedule and social life, how DO you find the TIME?

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 4:51:27 PM   
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Bell P-63 (from Wiki, FWIW, but you can find the same in almost any volume).

Performance

Maximum speed: 410 mph (660 km/h) at 25,000 ft (7,620 m)
Range: 450 mi[35] (725 km)
Ferry range: 2200 mi (3,540 km)
Service ceiling: 43,000 ft (13,100 m)
Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)
Wing loading: 35.48 lb/sq ft (173.91 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.20 hp/lb (0.34 kW/kg)

Armament

Guns:
1× 37 mm M4 cannon firing through the propeller hub
4× 0.50 in (12.7mm) M2 Browning machine guns
Bombs: 1,500 lb (680 kg) bomb load on wing and fuselage

And the A6M .....

Performance

Maximum speed: 533 km/h (287 kn, 331 mph) at 4,550 m (14,930 ft)
Range: 3,105 km (1,675 nmi, 1,929 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,000 m (33,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 15.7 m/s (3,100 ft/min)
Wing loading: 107.4 kg/m² (22.0 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 294 W/kg (0.18 hp/lb)

Unsurprisingly, the ONLY arena in which the Zero looks good by comparison is in its low altitude climb rate. The Zero looks good next to just about everything in low-altitude climb.


The funny thing is that the US never fielded the P-63 in combat. They all went to the USSR via lend-lease, and, as I recall, to a few South American allied nations.

< Message edited by mdiehl -- 6/24/2012 4:53:28 PM >


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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 5:40:09 PM   
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Buahahah!

Termie gets own3d!


I wonder if he'll be back to throw another tantrum and call you a "dum dum stoopidhead"?

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 6:24:53 PM   
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No need to waste the electrons on that.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 6:36:41 PM   
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No need to waste the electrons on that.

Quite agree. It goes without saying in any case.

I did notice that the game has the same specs for the P-63. But then our expert wouldn’t be expected to know that, not having the game.


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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 7:57:08 PM   
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Man, she had to be a B_____ to land. Nose high like that. Especially on a rough field. Glad I didn't have to drive her .... Proud of the guys who did.


I think she was rather easy on the pilot on landing. Don't forget you need to go nose high anyway for the flare, and thats only the last seconds before touchdown. Also taxiing for sure must have been more comfortable compared to a taildragger.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 9:48:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mdiehl

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Still Zero/Oscar meat to us JFBs


Not a credit to the game design by the way. The P-63 was faster, more maneuverable, and in every way superior to the A6M. It was what the P-39 *should have been* if they P-39s original intended role as a high altitude interceptor had been supported.


Goodness me what a surprise, mdiehl dis agrees with me (as he does), I'm deeply hurt I am.





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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/24/2012 11:28:03 PM   
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Ignore the little assweasel. He's too ignorant to know how ignorant he is.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 12:28:07 AM   
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I did notice that the game has the same specs for the P-63. But then our expert wouldn’t be expected to know that, not having the game.


DivePac says that Zeroes regularly eat the P-63's lunch in WitP. Is that true? If so, wouldn't the specs seem to counterindicate that result?

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 2:14:11 AM   
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Ignore the little assweasel. He's too ignorant to know how ignorant he is.






Commencing countdown...

*ignore on*

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 2:35:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Man, she had to be a B_____ to land. Nose high like that. Especially on a rough field. Glad I didn't have to drive her .... Proud of the guys who did.


I think she was rather easy on the pilot on landing. Don't forget you need to go nose high anyway for the flare, and thats only the last seconds before touchdown. Also taxiing for sure must have been more comfortable compared to a taildragger.

Maybe, but I am still glad I was not asked to drive her ...

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 3:23:22 AM   
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I was reading this and some other threads and I have a question.
Does termite always just drop in to say something repugnant and obnoxious?
Is he nine years old? Or just the kind of person who likes to write obscenities on other peoples things?
He even takes the time to say really nasty things to spambots.
Things must be pretty rotten in Denmark.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 5:07:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: danlongman

I was reading this and some other threads and I have a question.
Does termite always just drop in to say something repugnant and obnoxious?
Is he nine years old? Or just the kind of person who likes to write obscenities on other peoples things?
He even takes the time to say really nasty things to spambots.
Things must be pretty rotten in Denmark.


I think you have picked it up wrong mate, as 'T' is pretty close to the mark in this case.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 5:17:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DivePac88


quote:

ORIGINAL: danlongman

I was reading this and some other threads and I have a question.
Does termite always just drop in to say something repugnant and obnoxious?
Is he nine years old? Or just the kind of person who likes to write obscenities on other peoples things?
He even takes the time to say really nasty things to spambots.
Things must be pretty rotten in Denmark.


I think you have picked it up wrong mate, as 'T' is pretty close to the mark in this case.

+1

He's been here a lot longer, so maybe he doesn't have as much patience, but yeah, he's pretty much correct. I might choose different words, but ...

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 5:39:01 AM   
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Well it is too bad that this thread got hi-jacked for whatever the reasons. I really liked the photos. The P39 for all its faults was certainly one of the most beautiful fighters designed in WWII. I have always had a soft spot for it due to the way it looks.

The P63 seemed to be a very good plane but I doubt the USAF had any need for a fighter with such short range at the date that the P63 appeared. For the Russians it was a much more suitable fit as their fighters were not escorting large bombers deep into enemy territory. They seemed to be very happy with it as they were with the P39.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 8:58:57 AM   
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It boggles the mind. Is it really that difficult to either have a rational and civil discussion or to simply take the high road and not respond if you can't do so?

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 9:30:21 AM   
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I thought we had a new moderator, they at least deserve a "yellow card" for trolling a harmless comment.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 2:16:47 PM   
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I did notice that the game has the same specs for the P-63. But then our expert wouldn’t be expected to know that, not having the game.


DivePac says that Zeroes regularly eat the P-63's lunch in WitP. Is that true? If so, wouldn't the specs seem to counterindicate that result?

why don't you just try it out yourself?


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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 2:47:18 PM   
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Ignore the little assweasel. He's too ignorant to know how ignorant he is.


What's that?

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 3:26:03 PM   
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Its a shame this thread got out of hand. I love the pictures. Thank you jakla for posting them.

Its also a shame that a certain someone have to voice his dislike of a certain someone else in the manner he does derailing the thread. Rules are rules and if postcount is more important then the forum rules then something is wrong.

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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 3:32:19 PM   
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The P39 for all its faults was certainly one of the most beautiful fighters designed in WWII. I have always had a soft spot for it due to the way it looks.



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RE: OT: Some pics of a P-63 - 6/25/2012 3:46:48 PM   
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I liked flying any of the P-39 variants in IL2. One of my favorites. In game I seem to have pretty good luck using them for base defense, a lot depends on the crew quality.

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