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Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 9:17:39 AM   
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I am in turn 6 of the 41GC as the Axis (v AI) and am in the process of trying to untangle the command and control.

Currently there are no corps over 8 command points and no armies over 24 command points

I was under the impression that the command point rating for an Army Group should in theory be made up of the sum of the command points of the individual army attachements plus any direct attachments.

I can't seem to work out the numbers can someone give me some pointers?

eg Current AGC has a command rating of 101:96

There are 4 army attachments
4th Army 24:24
9th Army 24:24
2nd Panzer Group 24:24
3rd Panzer Group 18:24

For a total of 90 command points

There are no combat units directly attached to the army group as I disbanded the RHG and moved the security divisions to OKH.

The remaining attachments are FBD 2 and FBD 3 (rail repair) and Luftflotte 2. Do these units have a command point cost (couldn't see anything about this in the manual)

It is obviously something I misunderstand can anyone help?

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 10:03:32 AM   
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The FBDs have command point costs. I would guess the Luftflotten, too.

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 10:08:30 AM   
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Do you know what those command point costs are? As a test I tried switching a FBD to OKH and it made no difference to the overall command points of AGC ie the command points stayed at 101

I also thought (obviously incorrectly) that command points were for Brigades (1 point) and Divisions (2 points) only

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 11:15:38 AM   
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Each airbase is 1 CP. That should be some of it.

Hope it helps,

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 11:37:19 AM   
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Thanks Walloc must have missed that in the manual.

I guess that must be a least part of the difference although I'm pretty sure there are not 11 airbases attached to AGC will need to check. I thought command points were for combat units only. Does this mean an airbase is counted as a combat unit?

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 1:35:58 PM   
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Combat units directly attached to the AG HQ count as well.

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 2:52:35 PM   
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In this case there are no combat units attached to the AG HQ. The security divisions which start attached have all been transfered to OKH and the RGH HQ disbanded.

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 2:56:31 PM   
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Can you attach a zipped save file here please?

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 3:04:46 PM   
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Will do. Although it will probably be tomorrow before I get the chance

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/14/2012 10:44:33 PM   
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Can't seem to attach a zip file here. Although looking again it looks like there are 11 air bases which is the 101. ie 90 from ground units + 11 from air bases. Can't see anywhere in the manual where it states airbases count against command limits.

Is there any penalty for assigning Luftlotte 2 to OKH other than a huge number of APs?

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/15/2012 1:02:35 AM   
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Section 7.6.2.1:

Combat Unit Size - Command Points
Air Base - 1

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RE: Axis Army Grp Command Points - 6/15/2012 9:19:16 AM   
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Looks like I'm looking at an old copy of the manual. Thanks for your help.

Do any of you bother to transfer air units from Army Groups to OKH is it worth it? Does anyone know roughly how many AP points it costs?

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