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RE: Operation Ymir - 5/2/2013 6:54:02 PM   
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Jocke, I think you are right that he will bring out KB in the Marianas - he knows it is his last chance at a decisive battle before you get too many toys to stop. Your best bet is to use a half dozen bait TFs ahead of your carriers to draw the LBA and some of KBs fangs.
Also, this situation is worth risking your subs for. Intel on KB location is golden, getting a torp or two on a carrier (or two) is platinum with diamonds!

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RE: Eniwetok liberated! - 5/2/2013 7:02:12 PM   
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Questions for the peanut gallery!
- Should I stop the upgrade of the P38J factories to the L version? The J version is slightly faster so why upgrade?

- Im struggling with fatigue on my CVs squadrons assigned to CAP. They are currently assigned to 15k ft, RNG 1, 50% CAP and all have around 15 Fatigue. Should I lower the altitude to 10k?



the altitude isn't a problem as to fat when your fighters are only at 15k. Just put a couple of squadrons on 80% Cap 20% rest at range 0 so these will only fly Cap and won't accumulate any real fatigue while you put a couple of other squadrons on 0% Cap 0% rest and have them on escort max range. That way you can have as much Cap as you want and as much escorts as you need. Have been doing this that way since release.

As to the factories, doing the same as the others said, won't touch them with one exception, which is the Beaufort VIII factory in Australia, you don't want to lose your torpedo bomber factory upgrading to a bomb carrying Beau.

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RE: Eniwetok liberated! - 5/2/2013 7:12:31 PM   
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Just sent the turn to Erik. The fleet will reach attack position 3 hexes from the Marianas next turn. I hate and absolutely love turns like this!




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Operation Ymir - 5/2/2013 9:21:46 PM   
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5th-7th June -44

Still havnt gotten the turn for the 8th. But Ive seen the replay.

New Guinea
Ive decided to take the time and deal with Wewak/Aitape. Pulling up 2 IDs from Finschhafen. APA/AKAs has dumped the troops for Biak at Sarmi. Here they will load on LSTs/Barges for the last distance up to Biak. I cant properly protect them to safely let the APAs go all the way. This will prove a wise choice as the convoy is almost annihilated on the 8th by the KB. Unfortunately judging by the replay I will lose a whole bunch of Fletchers as well but all troops unloaded. At least I decimated Eriks air wings on the KB again!

Burma
Erik has been shifting troops from his massive stack to the gap. I managed to capture the troops in the open NE of Prome. It was glorious!

quote:


1643 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 52 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled

3539 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 96 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 254 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 46 (1 destroyed, 45 disabled)

239 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


And after that some fragment adding another 450 casualties! The troops listed were the 5th, 6th and 18th ID


Im shifting a lot of recon to his main stack. If he has pulled this much...Since my troops havnt left the hex yet. I can shift to his main stack very fast. Faster in fact then he can...Lets see what the recon says tomorrow.

Ymir
Well, nothing lost besides planes yet. I havnt gotten the turn back but I estimate I lost some 200-300 planes for nothing! Erik parked a few TFs comprised of crap around the bases in the Marianas. This of course drew huge strikes (200-300 planes each)from my CVs into a massive CAP. Not happy with this obviously. And he wasnt happy when I set a CAP trap with 20 Fletchers and 2 Clevelands few months back...Using PBs/AMc/xAKLs was pretty low. The CAP trapping Im fine with. Its part of the game. But you have to put something at risk or it just becomes gamey. Ah well.

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xAKL Shosen Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Kenzo Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
ML G-203

xAKL Kashi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Kasui Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
PB Kensin Maru

AMc Wa 12, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
<-- There were two but one got sunk by a sub during the night.



Well worth the 200-300 planes I lost...

No strikes flew against my CVs. Im guessing Erik has counted on me suffering against his CAP traps and will now fly in the strike planes to hit my weakened CV force tomorrow. I wont back down this time though.

DEI
KB suddenly popped up here! Looks like Erik played it smart. Going in with the KB just 10 hexes is no option. I withdrew to Darwin under a 400 Plane CAP. Doubt he will try for them after the Finschhafen debacle.

NOPAC
Picked up the remaining troops at Kodiak and have now started moving for Dutch again.





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Landings on Tinian! - 5/3/2013 7:57:11 AM   
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Marianas
Losses were actually a lot lighter then I expected. Only 46 planes lost?! When I looked through the CR Im "lacking" a major strike that was present in the replay. First time sync issues brought some positives with them!

Im sure Erik will bring in the strike planes this turn. He still have the small TF sitting in port at both Guam and Saipan. Since I know the KB isnt around I set 160 Hellcats that were previously on escort to sweep them both. Hopefully this will clear the way and minimize further losses.

Troops are landing on Tinian tonight. 120.000 men. I have high hopes they will be able to unload before daybreak. The 2 CVE TFs move in for cover while the fast CVs remain just outside. Erik has moved in a lot of troops since my last recon. There is now 28.000 men listed but only a few guns and AFVs. Unless he has managed to get the forts up to 8 or 9 I should have enough. Worst case this will be another slog.

New Guinea
Since Erik seems to have made Biak into a priority I will have to step back reinforcement attempts for a while. Erik struck out with the KB sinking 8 LSTs and 1 Sims class DD. All Fletcher should be okay but I had to disband one in port at Biak. This cost him another 60 KB strike planes. Not sure if I should be happy with the exchange or not. But from now on Biak will have to be reinforced by air and barge. Good news is I managed to get 40.000 supply on shore so that will last for a while. Airfield is up and running too.

Burma
Thunderstorms prevented much damage to be done. Some 100-120.000 men now occupy both hexes in question (see screen). So I will continue on. At least the bunch Im going for hasnt had time to dig in. Ill keep pressure up with bombers preventing fort construction, resting and to keep burning supply from his AA fire. I will detach a small detachments of bombers to check the other stack though. Perhaps its mostly a shell with BFs and whatnot to appear strong.

Darwin/DEI
Erik surged forward as anticipated. Im glad I withdrew. He has some powerful SCTF i the area including 1/3rd of the KB. Ill unload the troops for now. I will need more in the area before I can land.

The near Future
Things will calm down a bit for the allied side for while on New Guinea and around Darwin. I will need to clean up some bases in the rear and tidy up the forces. Secure Biak, let ships repair and troops to rest. When Tinian is secured I will escort a large number of warships here to aid in the future advance.

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RE: Landings on Tinian! - 5/3/2013 1:49:34 PM   
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Teaser for next turn!

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Ground combat at Tinian (108,94)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16489 troops, 136 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 627

Defending force 41267 troops, 1080 guns, 1141 vehicles, Assault Value = 1483

Japanese ground losses:
273 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
49th Ind.Mixed Brigade
48th Ind.Mixed Brigade
21st Ind.Mixed Regiment
26th Recon Regiment
16th Ind.Mixed Regiment
102nd Machine Canno AA Battalion
12th JNAF AF Unit
53rd JNAF AF Unit /1


Defending units:
4th Marine Div /1
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
77th Infantry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
31st Infantry Div /1
193rd Tank Battalion
104th Combat Engr Rgt /8
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XIV Corps Artillery
47th Coastal Artillery Regiment
I Corps Artillery
607th Coast AA Regiment
265th Coastal Artillery Regiment
1st USMC AA Battalion
64th Coast AA Regiment



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Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/3/2013 2:26:12 PM   
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I still havnt gotten the turn file so I did some digging around looking up the troops he has in place. I dont know much about these things but his units certainly looks fragile. Basically its just a bunch of infantry squads backed up by a few tankettes? Combine them and it looks a bit similar to half a Chinese Corps? Also low EXP in all the INF units.

Even if he has very high forts I have a hard time seeing these troops being much more than a speed bump?




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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/3/2013 2:55:22 PM   
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Your tanks on Tinian will overwhelm him easily. Those few AT guns will not be enough.

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/3/2013 5:12:36 PM   
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Bad idea not to havy any decent Artillery unit there.
However with stacking limits things would be pretty different... basically the allies can land only 2 divisions, 1 HQ and some tanks in each of the Mariannas...nothing more (35,000 men is the maximum).

Erik should have had at least a tank regiment, 2 150mm artillery units and 1 AT-gun regiment in order to have a chance there...

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/4/2013 9:24:56 AM   
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I hope you guys a right! First attack ordered tomorrow!

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/4/2013 10:30:27 AM   
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8th-10th June -44

Marianas
The usual mix of good and bad. This turn almost all good! Lets start with the bad news...

quote:


Sub attack near Tinian at 108,95

Japanese Ships
SS I-173

Allied Ships
CV Yggdrasil, Torpedo hits 2
CLAA Reno
CLAA San Juan
CLAA Juneau
DD Lang
DD Kalk
DD Cassin
DD Tucker
DD Fanning
DD Stack




This is just tiresome. I dont think I need to tell how much ASW is in that hex. In addition I have almost 50 Avengers flying ASW.

On to the good news. As I expected after drawing in my strikes on his PB/xAKLs on the 8th Erik now flew in his strike planes. A lot of his escorts and some of the strike planes were wiped out by the naval bombardment of Tinian during the night though! This turned out to be a blessing later in the day!

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Night Naval bombardment of Tinian at 108,94

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 15 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed on ground
A6M5 Zero: 69 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed on ground
B6N2a Jill: 16 damaged
B6N2a Jill: 3 destroyed on ground
N1K2-J George: 58 damaged
N1K2-J George: 7 destroyed on ground


Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
BB Valiant
BB Mississippi
BB Idaho
BC Renown


Night Naval bombardment of Tinian at 108,94

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 12 damaged
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 21 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
B6N2a Jill: 6 damaged
B6N2a Jill: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied Ships
BB California
BB Arizona
BB Nevada
BB Maryland


Japanese ground losses:
396 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 13 (7 destroyed, 6 disabled)



There were some night strikes that failed to hit anything. Later in the day a big strike attacked the invasion fleet at Tinian. Notice the lack of escorts for this one.

quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 108,94

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 28
D4Y2 Judy x 24
D4Y3 Judy x 14
J2M3 Jack x 28
N1K1-J George x 10
Ki-84a Frank x 12




Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 29
Hellcat I x 24
F6F-3 Hellcat x 221



Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 9 destroyed
D4Y2 Judy: 9 destroyed
D4Y3 Judy: 9 destroyed
D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak
J2M3 Jack: 8 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 13 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Copahee
CVE Corregidor
CVE White Plains


Then a second strike went in.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 108,94

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6
P1Y1 Frances x 9
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 13
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24
Ki-84a Frank x 10




Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 22
Hellcat I x 20
F6F-3 Hellcat x 140



Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
P1Y1 Frances: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 7 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 6 destroyed


The second strike didnt penetrate the CAP at all. Knowing the KB wasnt around I switched some of the Squadrons on escort to Sweep Guam and Saipan. Two of them did very well and two didnt do well at all. All in all during the day 250 Japanese planes are lost for only 100 Allied. Have to be happy with that!

One the 9th the CVs withdrew to cover the amphibs withdrawing back to Wake. This day wasnt as happy as Erik set up another CAP trap at Saipan using a few AMc. I had four strikes going in after the AMc into a massive CAP. This is one of them.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Saipan at 108,93

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 75
A6M5b Zero x 33
J2M3 Jack x 34
N1K1 Rex x 6
N1K1-J George x 3
N1K2-J George x 5
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 37
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 57




Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 158
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 33
TBM-1C Avenger x 14



Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 10 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 8 destroyed, 6 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 6 destroyed


Japanese Ships
AMc Chokai Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
ACM Daido Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc Kensyo Maru



This was a bit too much to stomach. He basically massed all available CAP in the Marianas at Saipan and created a small TF of AMc. I know this because the TF wasnt there yesterday. Looks very intentional to me. I told Erik in an email this morning that from now on I expect to see proper combat ships (DDs and upwards) in his CAP traps. His CAP traps has cost me almost 400 planes over 3 days for the price of 2 PBs, 2xAKLs and 2AMc. Stuff like this can easily ruin the game. So I hope he complies.

The only positive things about the losses is that I can support them. Navy pilots and aircraft pools are overflowing. This will take a good chunk out of the Hellcat pool though. But next month I get the second generation of Hellcats (20 knots faster) and a bump from 130 to 180 per month.

First attack on Tinian is ordered tomorrow. I have high hopes for this. I already have the BFs standing by on TFs outside the Marianas. If the attack looks promising they will hang around. If it looks like it will take time I will withdraw the fleet to Wake and replenish the CVs.

Burma
Troops keep on moving. Even though troop number indicate 140.000 troops in the hex only 5 divisions are identified (so far) and the rest looks like Brigades and smaller units. That is hopeful as the smaller units seem to deteriorate quickly when facing divisions. Only 1500 Guns and 1500 AFVs are listed by recon! I on the other hand have 3000 Guns and 4000 AFVs. Many of my AFVs are heavy tanks. 4 more days before arriving. Tense, tense...

OZ
Continuing to Sweep and bomb AFs. Erik is holding back and has actually split the KB. 1/3rd is covering Biak and 2/3rds are covering the DEI.

Biak
Erik sent in a bombardment during the night. As usual mines have no effect.

quote:

Night Naval bombardment of Biak at 87,110 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 18 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 5 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground


11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Mutsu
DD Kisaragi
DD Mutsuki
DD Matsu
DD Makinami



Allied ground losses:
249 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (6 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Bit disappointed the CD guns didnt do much. In a few days though I will strike back. Erik is being a bit cocky with his his mini KB lingering just 3 hexes from Biak. If he hangs around he could loose some carriers tomorrow as I moved in 120 DBs and set every Fighter on Escort.

NOPAC
Erik decided to send some strike planes up here. Much rather here then at the Marianas! He sends some strikes in over two days lightly damaging two CVEs. They are still able to conduct flight OPS but will have to go to Seattle to get patched up after this. I have 6 new CVEs already on the way from Portland to replace them.




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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/4/2013 1:38:39 PM   
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I have to agree with you that is gamey.  I know desperate times calls for desperate measures, but that is pushing it.  But I don't think that Erik is a bad player may just have made some knee jerk reactions.  Talk to him about it.  Your doing good right now, keep it up. 

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/4/2013 8:26:42 PM   
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Yeah, I spoke to Erik about it. He is claiming the AMc were there for a whole nother reason and not to draw strikes. Im not going to argue with him. I think this was just something borne out of frustration. I just told him to try and avoid stuff like this because nothing good can come from it.

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/4/2013 8:35:44 PM   
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I'm not sure what the AMc could be doing, unless he's worried about you dropping mines at the ports you're not landing at. The ACM has a more likely chance of being there on legitimate business. It is unusual that the TF was just created though.

Congrats on now being ahead of the historical timeline!

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/4/2013 8:52:52 PM   
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Thanks!

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/4/2013 10:40:21 PM   
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I'm not sure what the AMc could be doing, unless he's worried about you dropping mines at the ports you're not landing at. The ACM has a more likely chance of being there on legitimate business. It is unusual that the TF was just created though.

Congrats on now being ahead of the historical timeline!

The Allies landed on Tinian. Saipan is the closest base to send AMcs to clear mines at Tinian for any future bombardment TF. Also, AMcs can be made from converting some xAKLs, but this takes at least two weeks. AFAIK, they cannot be created instantly like PTs or barges. The AMcs were probably there, disbanded in port or perhaps at Pagan or Guam. Putting them in a TF and then flying in masses of fighters was pretty gamey, though.

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/5/2013 5:23:21 PM   
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11th-12th June -44

Considering the recent days these two were kind of quiet with only about 100 losses per day.

Marianas
My CVs cover the withdrawal of the transport fleet. The high losses (around 5-600 planes) means I feel kind of exposed. I dont have enough to try and close his AFs and maintain a credible CAP up. So Im stuck on the defensive for now. Disruption is down enough for another attack on the 13th. This attack will decide if I will withdraw back to Wake for now or escort the TFs carrying the BFs into Tinian.

I also lost track of all parts of the KB. Erik might try to seek battle now knowing Im severely weakened. I will not seek battle in my current condition. About 50% of my strike capacity was wiped out going after his AMc TFs.

DEI
Ive stripped some of the P38 squadrons of the good pilots and filled them out with green ones. I will use them together with the Hellcats to wear him down. I still have 2 Elite squadrons of Corsairs here. Lost track of KB. Dont like that...

Burma
Bombing continues of hex 55,51. Recon now indicates over 200.000 men there. Still only 6 divisions identified though. I know from my own experience and from the battle in New Guinea that the smaller units just wont cut it. Many seem to be of similar sort as was encountered on Tinian. Im convinced they will crumble quickly. Promblem will be the divisions and the sheer number of troops.

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Afternoon Air attack on 2nd Tank Division, at 56,51 , near Toungoo

Japanese ground losses:
393 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled


Also attacking 31st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking 32nd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 4th RTA Division ... <-- These are almost useless
Also attacking 34th Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 31st Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 32nd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 4th RTA Division ...
Also attacking 34th Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ...
Also attacking 30th Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...


These guys are sitting on the rail line so I guess there is little hope of affecting supply unless I drain all of Burma. 2 more days before my stack arrive. Then I will probably have to rest for a few days to get fatigue down a bit.

New Guinea
Shifting troops to take care of my SLOC. Flying in stuff to Biak from now. I have troops waiting on Barges at Sarmi destined for Biak. But Im waiting a bit to see if I can get the AF at Biak up and running again. In a fit of bad luck Erik sent the Helens in on the same day I decided to forgo CAP for escort..stupid.

NOPAC
Erik goes again for my CVEs here costing him a lot of planes for no hits. Another RGT is landed at Dutch. Withdrawing back to Kodiak.

Strategic Bombing
Im have concentrated on taking out anything that helps with supply in Burma. All HI/LI in Thailand is now gone. I will now shift to targets in China before going for the Oil in Lanchow/Medan again.






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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/5/2013 5:27:21 PM   
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What troops do you have prepped for the rest of the Marianas?? Just holding Tinian will not be enough.

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/5/2013 5:40:51 PM   
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What troops do you have prepped for the rest of the Marianas?? Just holding Tinian will not be enough.


I have troops prepped for Saipan but lack PPs to buy out the last ID. Its sitting at San Fran. Poor planning on my part!

EDIT: Also the troops from Eniwetok is prepping for Guam together with some scattered units.

When I planned this operation I had no clue it was going to be this lightly defended. So I went heavy for Tinian to make sure I could capture it quickly. In hindsight I could have used one of the US IDs for Saipan instead and gone right back in.

The prepp system makes everything inflexible. And I often find myself prepping too much. But on the other hand prepping too little is an disaster as it can set you back 2-3 months. Its a balance.

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/6/2013 5:46:32 PM   
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A bit late but in regards to pilot fatigue-having a few 'extra' pilots in each squadron can really help reduce fatigue quite a bit. I always try to keep at least a 20% reserve for front-line units, more if I can. This way the same pilots don't have to fly every mission.

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/7/2013 6:37:40 PM   
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13th-14th June -44

Things quiet down after the few days frantic activity.

Marianas

On the 13th I launch another successful attack at Tinian.

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Ground combat at Tinian (108,94)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 38383 troops, 866 guns, 999 vehicles, Assault Value = 1459

Defending force 16909 troops, 179 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 516

Allied adjusted assault: 420

Japanese adjusted defense: 703

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2437 casualties reported
Squads: 73 destroyed, 120 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 48 (16 destroyed, 32 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
593 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 89 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 88 (7 destroyed, 81 disabled) <-- The LVTs take a beating today while the Shermans are untouched




This wont take much longer as Eriks troops are in steady decline. Shermans are proving almost impervious to Jap fire. I have yet to have one even disabled in Combat.

I also decided to withdraw the fleet to Wake. I gave away a little too much info to Erik via mail so he might go for it. Ill replenish at Wake and then escort a large convoy to SOPAC with fresh combat ships. Then we go for the DEI!

Burma
Erik now has a staggering number of troops in the hex. 250.000. Had to shift the bombers to Rangoon today to close the AF. Sent some of the more beaten up troops set to guard the hex back to Prome to heal up as the troops from Central Burma arrived.

DEI
Sweeps and bombers rain in.




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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/7/2013 10:19:19 PM   
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Yeah, I spoke to Erik about it. He is claiming the AMc were there for a whole nother reason and not to draw strikes. Im not going to argue with him. I think this was just something borne out of frustration. I just told him to try and avoid stuff like this because nothing good can come from it.


I don't get all the negative waves, man. You lost ten fighters. So what?

It's perfectly feasible to have minesweepers at a forward base once air-droped mines are in the Allied inventory. Even before that. Subs carry them.

Stop dinkin' around with airplanes and get ashore!

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/8/2013 8:48:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Yeah, I spoke to Erik about it. He is claiming the AMc were there for a whole nother reason and not to draw strikes. Im not going to argue with him. I think this was just something borne out of frustration. I just told him to try and avoid stuff like this because nothing good can come from it.


I don't get all the negative waves, man. You lost ten fighters. So what?

It's perfectly feasible to have minesweepers at a forward base once air-droped mines are in the Allied inventory. Even before that. Subs carry them.

Stop dinkin' around with airplanes and get ashore!


More like 400 planes but I get your point!

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/9/2013 8:53:23 AM   
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Game really slowed down lately. Im back at work and the horrible 04:30 mornings which is taken a toll. Havnt gotten a turn from Erik in two days now since he has been busy too. Perhaps we are both a bit exhausted after the frantic pace up to the Marianas invasion.

Ill try and do a runthrough of all theatres and the plans and timelines for them during the day.

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/9/2013 11:03:54 AM   
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Marianas timetable

Nothing glorious here. Once Tinian is liberated the troops will start prepping for mainly Guam but also to mop up the northern Atolls and Rota

The timetable is to have cleared the whole of the Marians before the big push into the Philippines in early 45.






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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/9/2013 11:15:19 AM   
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New Guinea
The allied main push continues here. Once Biak is expanded and consolidated we will secure the Sorong area. I hope to have secure all three bases around Sorong around late September. Erik has decided to opposed this thrust something fiercely. I foresee a decisive naval battle here with the Sorong landings. This is where I hope to destroy the KB together with most of the IJN.

Most of the Allied fleet will take part in this operation. 2200 Carrier aircraft, 13 BBs, 18 CAs, 13 modern CLs and over 200 DDs. I will give the IJ their "decisive battle" here. This operation will coincide with the DEI landings. If Im successful this will make future landings during 45 a lot easier.




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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/9/2013 1:13:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JocMeister


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


quote:

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Yeah, I spoke to Erik about it. He is claiming the AMc were there for a whole nother reason and not to draw strikes. Im not going to argue with him. I think this was just something borne out of frustration. I just told him to try and avoid stuff like this because nothing good can come from it.


I don't get all the negative waves, man. You lost ten fighters. So what?

It's perfectly feasible to have minesweepers at a forward base once air-droped mines are in the Allied inventory. Even before that. Subs carry them.

Stop dinkin' around with airplanes and get ashore!


More like 400 planes but I get your point!


I was posting on the combat report from the 9th. It looks like I overlooked there were four combats and that was only one? Even so, the Japanese CAP in that combat report is very modest for this era and you had 185 Hellcats. And got a 1:5 exchange ratio in an escort mode, not sweeping.

OTOH, you know my opinion of the "gamey" call.

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/9/2013 2:04:54 PM   
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I was posting on the combat report from the 9th. It looks like I overlooked there were four combats and that was only one? Even so, the Japanese CAP in that combat report is very modest for this era and you had 185 Hellcats. And got a 1:5 exchange ratio in an escort mode, not sweeping.

OTOH, you know my opinion of the "gamey" call.


Yes there were several more. And although the one I posted only states 8 losses the actual number of lost were about 10 times higher!

Erik and I sorted it out eventually. Small things tend to escalate as there is so much at stake. Using email to sort stuff like this out isnt the best way as things that are said in light spirit can sound really harsh when written.

Im actually a bit envious of the way you play. Everything allowed...no discussions. Most feel pretty liberating!

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/9/2013 2:14:35 PM   
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quote:

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New Guinea
The allied main push continues here. Once Biak is expanded and consolidated we will secure the Sorong area. I hope to have secure all three bases around Sorong around late September. Erik has decided to opposed this thrust something fiercely. I foresee a decisive naval battle here with the Sorong landings. This is where I hope to destroy the KB together with most of the IJN.

Most of the Allied fleet will take part in this operation. 2200 Carrier aircraft, 13 BBs, 18 CAs, 13 modern CLs and over 200 DDs. I will give the IJ their "decisive battle" here. This operation will coincide with the DEI landings. If Im successful this will make future landings during 45 a lot easier.





With enemy bases from Ambon to Babo to Hollandia to Peleliu/Babeldaob it will be very hard to surprise him with that massive fleet. I doubt he will challenge if he knows what you are bringing. Are you going to be able to suppress his recon and subs?
Not that it matters - if KB is unwilling to engage it becomes irrelevant to major operations since you will always have your big hammer along. Things will get harder in 1944 when he has Kamikazes to torment you!

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RE: Allied landing on Tinian! - 5/9/2013 3:26:51 PM   
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Im actually a bit envious of the way you play. Everything allowed...no discussions. Most feel pretty liberating!


When I eventually get a PBEM going, that will be the HR set I'd be shooting for.

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