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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 10:22:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mind_messing


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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ORIGINAL: obvert

Here is the info screen. The Allies have picked up about 2k since the turn of the year. Mostly Kushiro's points and troop losses. The air war remains a dead heat.




Loving it. Keep up the good work.

I think some people overlook that fact that the Victory conditions are predicated upon a ratio, not the absolute number of points. As you engage in more and more 1:1 VP snarls in the air, the ratio is increasingly difficult for the Allies to start to overcome. At this point, the Allies need to gain another 46,671 VPs without the Japanese side gaining one in order to get to 1.5:1. And now they have 6 months to do so.

Obvert: 6 months ago (in game time) would have been late August 1944. What was your VP ratio / total points then? My guess is that it's either not budged (ratio-wise) or maybe even expanded a bit in your favor.




There's a lot at stake VP-wise should Japan be pushed off Hokkaido. The base VP's aren't insignificant, nor are the army VP's (assuming units are eventually surrounded and die on the island). Now, more than ever, it's critical to stall the Allies on the ground. If they get a big breakthrough and cut off a lot of IJA units, the VP situation can start to snowball fast.


He can push hard here with about 5-6k AV of late war Allied troops. The forts are going to be tough for him, as Bihoro is level 8 and Sapporo is level 9. Both Asahikawa and Muroran are level 6. Hakodate is getting toward level 7.

I have a feeling he'll try another landing forward of Kushiro not too long from now. Dan isn't one to sit around for long and slog through. It's also easier for the Allies to pick a target to isolate by sea whereas by land I've got time to prepare as he moves in.

If he does come overland I'm getting a few divisions dug into the x3 terrain and more placed in reserve nearby to race in if he comes one way or another. I've also got one of the tank divisions coming back from Burma I can through into the mix.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 8:19:41 PM   
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Feb 24, 1945


The Allies begin bombing at night on the 24th. The NF answer well. These are followed up by extensive sweeps and some minor bombing of the fields and resources. I get the feeling he's trying assess how to mix night/day bombing with sweeps and escorts. Today looked like a trial.

It worked well in the day as he caught Hakodate with all older airframes on CAP. A bit rough in the air, but the NF made up for it taking down 13-16 4Es. That for 11 planes lost on the ground and 3 NF in the air. This is why a bunch of my 80+ golden boy fighter jocks have been tooling around over major industry centers without any action for the past six months.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 24, 1945
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Night Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 26

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 24

Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.VI x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator GR.VI: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 22

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Regiment, at 122,53 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 19
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28
Ki-100-II Tony x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 16th Canadian Brigade, at 122,53 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 12
P1Y2 Frances x 36
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28
Ki-100-II Tony x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
284 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 20 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Regiment, at 122,53 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 26
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 77
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 32
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 52
Ki-100-II Tony x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 17 (12 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Regiment, at 122,53 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
N1K1-J George x 12
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 3
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (6 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 6th Ranger Battalion ...
Also attacking 1st Regiment ...

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Morning Air attack on 1st Regiment, at 122,53 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 29
B5N2 Kate x 20
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 22
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Regiment, at 122,53 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
N1K1-J George x 12
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 28
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 67
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 27
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 27
Ki-100-II Tony x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 66 (65 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Regiment, at 122,53 , near Kushiro

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 30
D4Y4 Judy x 41
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 23
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 9 (9 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 800 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Combined 8th SNLF , at 123,51 (Bihoro)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 5
B-25J11 Mitchell x 3
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 10
PV-1 Ventura x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 7 damaged
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PBJ-1J Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Base Force, at 123,51 (Bihoro)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25J11 Mitchell x 6
PV-1 Ventura x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 28
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 24

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 41,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 74
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 20

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 66
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 12

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 1 destroyed


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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 38,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 60
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 40,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 43
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 8 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 43,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6
F-6D Mustang x 12
P-51D Mustang x 18

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged

Resources hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 8:23:26 PM   
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Notice the movement arrows on the ground troops on Hokkaido. Looks like the Allies are taking their toys and going home to play. There is still a good chance of hitting a bunch of troops in the clear over the next few days. I'll concentrate on the smaller units without any AA in the hexes around Kushiro, then later, if there is still an opening try to get to the IDs currently at Bihoro.




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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 10:08:58 PM   
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The 25th began with the Allies moving closer to invading Paramushiro-Jima. The CD guns landed 12 hits on BB New York as she bombarded, but no major damage listed.


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Night Naval bombardment of Paramushiro-jima at 137,47 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

78 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB New York, Shell hits 12
BB Tennessee
CL Honolulu
DD Downes
DD Flusser
DD Mahan
DD Ingraham
DD Bell

Japanese ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Runway hits 2

BB New York firing at Kitachishima Fortress
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 10:11:59 PM   
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The Allies continue their night bombing campaign, but again are met by the NF who get the job done.


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Night Air attack on Asahikawa , at 121,51

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 6

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 3
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 6

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 735

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 10:16:14 PM   
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The Allies finally decide to land in Burma as well, at Mergui. It's a dangerous location, but I've got a lot around here and did manage to weaken the landings a bit.

Kates strike first and sink four heavily loaded xAPs against no CAP!


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tavoy at 53,61

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 32
B5N2 Kate x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
xAP Jacalope, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Clan Macbean, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Largs Bay, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAP Clan Macindoe, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
7227 casualties reported
Squads: 195 destroyed, 189 disabled
Non Combat: 107 destroyed, 154 disabled
Engineers: 36 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 98 (96 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
26 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 10:25:36 PM   
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Some Frances go for some LSTs while the kami unit here aims for the big boys. The troops do get landed though, and it looks like it'll be hard to keep this base. I've got there divisions to coral anything that comes marching though, and two more en route from Moulmei along the coast.


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tavoy at 53,61

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 13
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 37

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
LST 538, Bomb hits 1, on fire
LST 1021, Bomb hits 1, on fire

LST 427, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P1Y1 Frances bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mergui at 53,62

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 32
B5N2 Kate x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK City of Hankow, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAP Cap St Jacques
xAK Empire Rani
xAK Martand, Torpedo hits 1
xAK Samharle
xAK John B. Floyd, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Fort Brooke
xAP Felix Roussel, Torpedo hits 1

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (9 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
26 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mergui at 53,62

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 28
P1Y2 Frances x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 11 destroyed

Allied Ships
LSI(L) Brisbane Star, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
LSI(L) Dunedin Star
xAP Esperance Bay
xAP Empress ' Asia, Kamikaze hits 1
AP Thomas Jefferson, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

xAP Kelantan
DE Holt
DE Hodges, Kamikaze hits 1, heavy damage
LSI(L) Glengyle

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P1Y2 Frances flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mergui at 53,62

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 167 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 58 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 36
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
xAK Lyman Beecher
xAP Esperance
xAP Birchbank, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Jumna
LSI(L) Empire Battleaxe, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LSI(L) Empire Mace, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

xAK Gausdal
xAP Daisy Moller, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Massive explosion on LSI(L) Empire Battleaxe

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mergui at 53,62

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 35
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
LST 408, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK La Cordillera, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

LST-745, Bomb hits 1
LST-736, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
LST-746, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
LST-750, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
LST-740, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
LST 410, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x B6N2a Jill bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring LST-740

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Ground combat at Mergui (53,62)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7209 troops, 44 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 207

Defending force 15132 troops, 320 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 683

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
3rd South Seas Det.

Defending units:
2nd British Division
81st (West African) Div /1
77th Indian Para Brigade
268th Motorised Bde /2
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
185th USAAF Base Force /1
134th (East Ang) Rgt /1

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 10:40:15 PM   
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Well, that's a nice turn for Japan. All those transports without air cover and at your bombers' mercy. Not a common sight for Japan in 1945. And nice for the VPs. I'm sure Canoerebel would like the turn back.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/20/2018 10:57:10 PM   
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Lovely! Well done!

6/15 hits on your Kamikazes too. A respectable ratio. Why were the B6N2a aircraft carrying bombs? Range?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/21/2018 12:57:19 AM   
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You sank the ole Battleaxe

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/21/2018 5:50:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Lovely! Well done!

6/15 hits on your Kamikazes too. A respectable ratio. Why were the B6N2a aircraft carrying bombs? Range?


Range and HQ placement both. I had to disperse in case the big bad bombers decided to diversify and take a day off from pounding Bangkok. I had planes launching from about six different bases. Probably a good thing in the end since none of the 90 strike planes from Chumpon flew at all. It could have been a much better day as there are still about 50 ships out there.

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Well, that's a nice turn for Japan. All those transports without air cover and at your bombers' mercy. Not a common sight for Japan in 1945. And nice for the VPs. I'm sure Canoerebel would like the turn back.


The LSI(L) are especially nice to sink outright, but those big ocean liner xAP are a hefty VP count too. The Empress Asia is one of the big ones. See how that kami hit treats her.

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