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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 9/24/2012 3:13:14 PM   
obvert


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DEI: Soerabaja will be attacked tomorrow. The bombardment shows very little here. It's all in Palembang! Bombardments there are now destroying troops. The AV is falling each day from a peak just over 1000 and now at 942. Bandoeng will also be attacked tomorrow.

4 Hawks fly up and get one zero flying CAP at Oosthaven for no losses. Must be the cream of remaining Dutch pilots.

CHINA: Air raids at Changteh and Sian. A small Corps is knocked around near Psingtang.

PACIFIC: Ndeni is invaded. Now at least he'll have to prep before trying for this base.

BURMA: Meiktila is attacked today. The base holds with a 1:1! The casualties are about even but he took the forts to 0. Tomorrow will be tense. More troops and supply will keep flying in.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 08, 42
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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 34160 troops, 461 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 1026

Defending force 26677 troops, 362 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 942

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
214 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 19 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Ground combat at Bandoeng (50,100)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12272 troops, 136 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 593

Defending force 6097 troops, 32 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Assaulting units:
53rd Naval Guard Unit
38th Division
Sasebo 2nd SNLF

Defending units:
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Afdeling Ritman
Bandoeng Base Force
Loemafjang Base Force
Merak Base Force
Semarang Base Force
Kalidjati Base Force
ABDA
KNIL Army Command
Malang Base Force


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Ground combat at Soerabaja (56,104)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14399 troops, 163 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 827

Defending force 6466 troops, 47 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 125


Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment
Sasebo 8th SNLF
Kure 1st SNLF
124th Infantry Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
Kure 3rd SNLF
Sasebo 1st SNLF
144th Infantry Regiment
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
16th Army
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
Mobiele Eenheid Battalion
Artilleriecommando Coastal Gun Battalion
Djojakarta Base Force
MLD
Madion Base Force
Commandement Marine
Soerabaja Base Force

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Ground combat at Meiktila (58,47)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12427 troops, 99 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 476

Defending force 5677 troops, 104 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 260

Allied adjusted assault: 182

Japanese adjusted defense: 163

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
410 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
497 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 53 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Assaulting units:
13th Burma Rifles Battalion
RM Viper Force
B Sqn 3rd Hussars Regiment
Tenasserim BAF Battalion
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
21st Div /1

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I hadn't seen the Dutch fighters for weeks until today. Luckily it was only a zero lost. I'll start sweeping near Batavia to see if I can catch them with numbers.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 9/24/2012 4:26:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: obvert



BURMA: Meiktila is attacked today. The base holds with a 1:1! The casualties are about even but he took the forts to 0. Tomorrow will be tense. More troops and supply will keep flying in.

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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you holding on in Meiktila.

Good Luck!!


< Message edited by Empire101 -- 9/24/2012 4:27:29 PM >


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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 9/25/2012 4:34:55 PM   
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SUBS: Sturgeon hits a few mines at Balikpapan, which makes me very happy.

DEI: Soerabaja falls easily. Bandoeng does not. In spite of a 3:1 adjustment, forts don't fall and the base holds. Merak is taken by paras.

CHINA: Troops are really starting some subterfuge around Changsha now. I'll be 'moving' toward all three bases i the area tomorrow, but the next day might choose Henyang as the main target, as it's the one I won't actually attack. I just want to create doubt as to where this stack will go. Meanwhile on the other side of Changsha 2200AV is moving into the city.

BURMA: The Chinese Corps was too strong for the pieces I had been able to fly in to Meiktila. The base fell today in a 2:1 attack. The good thing is that the troops retreated SE on the rail line toward Toungoo. I'll run them into the woods and see if he can push me out. Supply will be critical, but it could be tough for him too if we're blocking the rail.


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 09, 42
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TF 161 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (64,97)

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, Mine hits 1, on fire

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TF 161 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (64,97)

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Ground combat at Soerabaja (56,104)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20888 troops, 224 guns, 191 vehicles, Assault Value = 828

Defending force 6437 troops, 47 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 643

Allied adjusted defense: 77

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Soerabaja !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
3471 casualties reported
Squads: 81 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 198 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 64 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 52 (52 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (25 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
144th Infantry Regiment
Sasebo 1st SNLF
Kure 1st SNLF
8th Tank Regiment
124th Infantry Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
Kure 3rd SNLF
Sasebo 8th SNLF
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
16th Army
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
Mobiele Eenheid Battalion
Artilleriecommando Coastal Gun Battalion
MLD
Madion Base Force
Commandement Marine
Djojakarta Base Force
Soerabaja Base Force


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 34254 troops, 460 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 1033

Defending force 26457 troops, 361 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 921

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled

Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
4th Division
65th Brigade
33rd Division
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 4th SNLF
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
Tjilatjap KNIL Battalion
4th KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Zuid KNIL Battalion
2nd KNIL Regiment
West Borneo KNIL Battalion
6th KNIL Regiment
Riouw KNIL Battalion
4th KNIL Regiment
1st Regt Cavalerie
Padang Garrison Battalion
1st KNIL Regiment
Lijfwacht Cav Sqn
3rd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Marinier Battalion
SE Borneo KNIL Battalion
Barisan KNIL Regiment
2nd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Pakanbaroe Det.
Tapanoeli Gsn Battalion
2/15 Punjab Battalion
Palembang Base Force
1st KNIL AA Battalion
Bintan Det. Base Force
Padang Base Force
Bengkalis Base Force
6th Heavy AA Regiment


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Ground combat at Bandoeng (50,100)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13762 troops, 148 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 595

Defending force 6101 troops, 32 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 52

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 520

Allied adjusted defense: 172

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
200 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
284 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Assaulting units:
38th Division
53rd Naval Guard Unit
Sasebo 2nd SNLF

Defending units:
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Afdeling Ritman
Semarang Base Force
Kalidjati Base Force
Loemafjang Base Force
KNIL Army Command
Bandoeng Base Force
ABDA
Merak Base Force
Malang Base Force

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Ground combat at 47,95 (near Oosthaven)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13464 troops, 123 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 476

Defending force 1476 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 205

Allied adjusted defense: 8

Japanese assault odds: 25 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)


Allied ground losses:
606 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 65 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Units retreated 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
5th Division

Defending units:
ML-KNIL
2 ML-KNIL Aviation


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Ground combat at Meiktila (58,47)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12035 troops, 98 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 426

Defending force 6468 troops, 116 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 273

Allied adjusted assault: 347

Japanese adjusted defense: 158

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Meiktila !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2537 casualties reported
Squads: 60 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 40 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 32 (30 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
196 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 7 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
13th Burma Rifles Battalion
B Sqn 3rd Hussars Regiment
RM Viper Force
Tenasserim BAF Battalion
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
91st Naval Guard Unit
1st Raiding Regiment
21st Div /1

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Ground combat at Merak (48,97)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 94 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 8

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Merak !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /1

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Chinese troops shouldn't be too tough right now, but these ones were today in Meiktila.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 9/29/2012 12:36:52 PM   
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DEI: The final Dutch PTs are sunk near Kangean. The CAP at Oosthaven takes down one Hawk for no losses. On the ground, Bandoeng still holds. I'll keep the DA on. It should fall tomorrow.

CHINA: Major bombing at Sian. Almost 100 hits on the fields.

PI: At Bataan an xAK is hit by Vals. Interesting. I think he's resupplying Luzon with single ships. I'llpost a SCTF nearby and set Vals to 10k Naval bombing/airfield.

BURMA: Near Meiktila our LR CAP gets a shot at some Allied bombers today. We reportedly take out 7 total on the day. Torsten seems to be occasionally very reckless with his air forces, not sending in sweeps and throwing the bombers away without even escort to the chance I did not CAP. Good to remember.


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 10, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kangean at 59,106, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Oboro
DD Oite
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi

Allied Ships
PT TM-10
PT TM-11
PT TM-12, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT TM-14

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 10,000 yards
DD Yunagi fires at PT TM-14 at 10,000 yards
DD Asanagi engages PT TM-14 at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
DD Oite engages PT TM-10 at 12,000 yards
Onderdonck L. orders Allied TF to disengage
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sepandjang at 60,107, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Oboro
DD Oite
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi

Allied Ships
PT TM-10
PT TM-11
PT TM-14, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 10,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 8,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages PT TM-10 at 12,000 yards
DD Asanagi engages PT TM-10 at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sepandjang at 60,107, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Oboro
DD Oite
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi

Allied Ships
PT TM-10, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT TM-11, Shell hits 2, and is sunk


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 7,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards
PT TM-10 sunk by DD Yunagi at 4,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 58,48 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7



Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3
Hudson IIIa x 3
Hudson I x 5
B-26 Marauder x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed
Hudson IIIa: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 3 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
1 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 91st Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 21st Div /1 ...

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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 58,48 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 8
B-26 Marauder x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 145 minutes

Also attacking 1st Raiding Regiment ...
Also attacking 21st Div /1 ...
Also attacking 1st Raiding Regiment ...

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Morning Air attack on 1st Raiding Regiment, at 58,48 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 80 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Bellerophon, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x D3A1 Val bombing from 16000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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At least some Dutch PTs in the war were captured by the Japanese and used against the Allies. I wonder which TTs they used?
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 9/30/2012 9:39:49 AM   
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SUBS: Subs laid mines at one of the small islands South of Tokyo. Managed to somehow see them before running into them. Now cleared.

DEI: Bandoeng finally capitulated with heavy losses for the Dutch troops. On to Batavia!

He's persistently night bombing Oosthaven to kill of a mortally wounded xAP there in port. No hits so far. Only dribs and drabs of Dutch bombers, so I'll be happy for him to hit the ship rather than the oil.

CHINA: The maneuvering by the IJA is not being met by the KMT in the central China area. I'm not sure why Torsten is not reinforcing Siantang more heavily. Only 48k troops listed. One unit moved from Henyang but no more appear to be en route. That can't be more than 1k AV. I've been pulling troops back and changing direction, but I'm going to let them cross now! They should shock into Siantang in two days. About 2500AV, with a few tanks. I'll have another 2200AV in Changsha by tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

PI: I forgot to change the Val to a dive-bombing altitude, but they hit the Belerophon again, and it should sink today. Now they will be set to 20% search 10k naval/airfield.

BURMA: My troops are running for the woods. They're in reserve mode so are healing a bit. They might just make it before another attack in the clear.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 11, 42
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lucena at 79,79

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Bellerophon, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x D3A1 Val bombing from 16000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Pre-Invasion action off Palembang (48,91) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

380 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CA Nachi
CL Natori
CL Isuzu
DD Karukaya
DD Akikaze
DD Usugumo
xAK Okiyu Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
xAK Yamaura Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Kotoku Maru
DD Asagao

Japanese ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
192 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

CA Mogami firing at 4th KNIL Regiment
Padang Base Force firing at DD Usugumo
75mm CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Okiyu Maru at 10,000 yards
CA Mogami firing to suppress enemy battery at 10,000 yards
5" CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Yamaura Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Akikaze fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Palembang (48,91)

TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Palembang, 48,91

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36090 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1045

Defending force 25980 troops, 359 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 884


Allied ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Ground combat at Bandoeng (50,100)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 12125 troops, 136 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 573

Defending force 5758 troops, 29 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 698

Allied adjusted defense: 157

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bandoeng !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units pursuing 1


Allied ground losses:
2239 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 159 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 29 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (6 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 32 (32 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Units retreated 10


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
53rd Naval Guard Unit
38th Division
32nd Nav Gsn Unit

Defending units:
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Afdeling Ritman
Kalidjati Base Force
Bandoeng Base Force
Loemafjang Base Force
ABDA
KNIL Army Command
Merak Base Force
Semarang Base Force
Malang Base Force

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16986 troops, 147 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 868

Defending force 36090 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1045

Japanese ground losses:
230 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


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SS Belerophon of the Blue Funnel Line. The blockade runners I'm seeing could have sneaked from OZ, but there is constant shipping south of the Philipenes as well as established air search. I'm going to station small SCTF patrolling between the inner islands South of Luzon. There is the possibility he's stashed a few loaded ships on these islands to use later. I'll also being visiting some of these ports.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 9/30/2012 11:50:44 PM   
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DEI: We're still trading blows at Palembang. Today his was stronger.

CHINA: Changsha and Sian get the business from the air today. Our troops are nearing Siantang and should cross tomorrow. The Chinese look to be trying to reinforce from Changsha, so if the shock doesn't go well we could get booted out quickly just after. Or, conversely, if it does go well, those troops from Changsha could be in for some hurt. The Chinese don't tend to shock well across rivers into multiple IJA divisions.

PI: Vals very quickly found another blockade runner and this time nailed it with 4 250kg bombs diving from 10k. Not bad for pilots with average experience of 42 and naval bombing in the 50s. I'm hoping I caught this trend on the front end, or the siege at Clark could be a long one.

BURMA: Our troops made it into the jungle. Hopefully this will give enough of a defensive bonus to at least hold out for a while and force him to bring reinforcements here.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK William Luckenbach, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK William Luckenbach

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36038 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1037

Defending force 25891 troops, 358 guns, 150 vehicles, Assault Value = 875

Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 6 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22135 troops, 264 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 862

Defending force 36038 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1037

Japanese ground losses:
352 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1275 troops, 92 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 1045

Defending force 61693 troops, 842 guns, 758 vehicles, Assault Value = 2245

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 10/1/2012 9:56:12 AM   
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The 'Fortress Palembang' strategy is a good example of how the game is perceived by many Allied players.

For the Allies it is in my opinion a valid strategic option in their toolkit. All bets are off, and this ahistorical strategy is deemed perfectly valid ( as it most certainly is! )

But turn the tables around, and many Allies don't like ruthless aggressive Japanese players planning a 'valid' strategy in China, and start whining about how 'broke' the game is.

I just find it irritating!!
What are your thoughts Obvert?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 10/1/2012 11:24:47 AM   
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The most important thing in the PBEM game is to have good communication with your opponent. Torsten and I have always had decent communication. He told me early on that he had certain rules for himself in putting a lot of troops in Palembang. He would only (at least in the beginning) use Dutch troops, he would turn off the refineries and he would be willing to negotiate a withdrawal instead of ruining the oil there once it appeared the base would fall. I really appreciated his openness about it all.

Once the base was invested we had more discussions and his offer for withdrawal didn't meet my criteria, so we play on without any special rules or conditions there. I am really interested in how it will turn out. I have no expectation of getting a long-term VP win in this game after losing several CVs by turn 3, so it's a good testing ground for me, and a great challenge. I'm taking it as it comes and trying to figure out as I go what the Japanese can still do without KB superiority in 42.

As for China, we also made a 'special rule' knowing that the ground system and supply rules there really inhibit Allied abilities to hold it against persistent and dedicated Japanese efforts. If I should take China and threaten the two re-spawn centers of Chungking and Chengtu, we will call a truce and he can retreat forces to a holding zone in the four central Chinese cities until 1/44. At that point, all bets are off and I can go in and take the rest if I am able.

These special considerations are I think necessary if you want to play a game that is at least somewhat historically plausible, and being a stock scenario 1 game, this is certainly in that potential range. I refuse to find players' views irritating on the subjects of balance, because a more productive route for me is to figure out how to make it balanced enough so that both players can go forward feeling good about the game and having the experience with it they are looking for. It takes some negotiation, but that is fine and usually leads to a better game all around.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 10/1/2012 11:29:48 AM   
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Good points as always. I think 'irritating' was the wrong word that I used in my post.

I should have used 'perplexing'

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 10/1/2012 2:37:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Empire101

Good points as always. I think 'irritating' was the wrong word that I used in my post.

I should have used 'perplexing'


I hear you. I think some can get too caught up in how the game 'should' be, but in reality it is an abstract, and even the parts that work well don't work perfectly.

In the beginning when the KB was being attacked by surface ships if it were a real-life situation there is no way two BBs and two CAs would sit back letting CAs and even a much slower BB put multiple shells into three fleet CVs. Those ships would have expended their ammo and sacrificed themselves to save the CVs.

In the game, the BBs didn't fire more than a few shells, and the CAs in the KB did virtually nothing but take a few hits. Meanwhile the fast CVs didn't run away, they sat and got nailed by even the much slower BB.

I could have started ranting about how the game is broken, that shouldn't happen, it should all be changed. As much as that might be true, I'd prefer to learn how it DOES actually work, and know in the future not to get my CVs into a surface battle (and conversely to try to get those of my opponent caught by surface ships).

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Today something finally to really cheer about! The shock to Siangtan crushed the Chinese and took the city! Banzai!!!

CHINA: The shock got an 8:1 and routed the Chinese. This will make it tough for Torsten to hold any of the central Chinese bases, and I can most likely pick them off one at a time. His best bet might be to retreat to better defensive ground to set up his next LOD, but for now at least he appears to be still moving troops to Siangtan from Changsha and Henyang. If he comes to fight more I'll be happy, as my troops have virtually no disruption or fatigue. Supply will be the only issue. I'm pouring more into both Canton and Shanghai in the next few days.

At Changsha IJA troops bombarded and found that we're outnumbered, but only slightly. I'll keep bombarding to slow his movement and hopefully disable some troops before they move to Siangtan. I'll not attack here unless I can afford to move in 2:1 raw AV. I'll most likely work on Henyang first, which is better terrain for me.

DEI: A few Hawks took out one Betty near Batavia as they bombed retreating Dutch troops. Sweeps and escorts will go tomorrow. At Palembang our arty today did better, and the Allied BA was less effective. We have twice as many guns in the hex now, so should start to take control of this engagement.

PI: Bombardments at Clark result in destroyed Japanese vehicles. Still very outnumbered here, and they appear to have good supply.

BURMA: Adding to our list of blockade runners, Lilys hit an xAK near Rangoon today. It may not sink but the fires should at the least reduce its cargo.


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Afternoon Air attack on KNIL Army Command , at 49,99 , near Batavia

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 16

Allied aircraft
75A-7 Hawk x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
1-Vl.G.IV with 75A-7 Hawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 15



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Coquina, Bomb hits 1, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Coquina


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Ground combat at 55,103 (near Soerabaja)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 960 troops, 0 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 81

Defending force 3440 troops, 7 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Japanese adjusted assault: 38

Allied adjusted defense: 28

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)


Allied ground losses:
231 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 36 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
Madion Base Force
MLD
Commandement Marine
Djojakarta Base Force
Soerabaja Base Force


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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 62985 troops, 521 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 2264

Defending force 97009 troops, 596 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3180

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
40th Division
6th Division
3rd Division
57th Infantry Brigade
34th Division
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion

Defending units:
73rd Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
22nd Artillery Regiment
1st Artillery Regiment
20th Artillery Regiment
9th War Area
19th Group Army
18th Artillery Regiment
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
23rd Group Army
32nd Group Army
27th Group Army
25th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force
7th Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 75664 troops, 645 guns, 168 vehicles, Assault Value = 2758

Defending force 23497 troops, 177 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 884

Japanese adjusted assault: 2288

Allied adjusted defense: 277

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Siangtan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
5223 casualties reported
Squads: 77 destroyed, 272 disabled

Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 30 (2 destroyed, 28 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
10571 casualties reported
Squads: 265 destroyed, 143 disabled
Non Combat: 326 destroyed, 92 disabled
Engineers: 167 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 67 (60 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Units retreated 8


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
104th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
116th Division
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Division
39th Division
22nd Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
9th Prov Chinese Corps
5th Construction Regiment
16th Construction Regiment
65th Chinese Corps
6th Construction Regiment
45th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35808 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1016

Defending force 25792 troops, 356 guns, 149 vehicles, Assault Value = 865


Allied ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 30 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1275 troops, 92 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 1044

Defending force 61658 troops, 842 guns, 758 vehicles, Assault Value = 2239

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 21925 troops, 264 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 838

Defending force 35808 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1016

Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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DEI: Oscars take care of a few Hawks near Batavia. Nells crush two lone xAKL doing sneaky things South of Java.

CHINA: The first sight of Chinese bombers in months today as 5 Hudsons try to hit our tanks near Sian. No luck.

At Siangtan our supply jumps to 5k quickly, and the Chinese are still marching toward the base. He'd have to have 5k AV to kick us out at this point. At least one and maybe two forts will be built by the time any concerted attack arrives. Looking forward to this!

BURMA: The Chinese have moved into our Forest hex in Burma. The shock will come soon no doubt. Supply is still being flown in and all units are now out of the red.

I've got two more para units preparing for a jump on Bassein soon. I'm waiting to get the transports freed from flying supply and a few more added in so that a regiment can be flown in after in 4-5 days. If I can pull that off and hold the forest hex I might be able to keep the main forces of Allied units away from Rangoon long enough to fly in troops and walk in to take it. He can't have more than 120-50 AV there now with one main force caught in Moulmein, and another trying to get my units off of the rail in the center.

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Afternoon Air attack on KNIL Army Command , at 49,99 , near Batavia

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
75A-7 Hawk x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
75A-7 Hawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
1-Vl.G.IV with 75A-7 Hawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Djokjakarta at 51,106

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 10
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15


No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Duijmar van Twist, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tjilatjap at 50,103

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
G3M2 Nell x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14


No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL De Haan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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DEI: Walking to Palembang and Batavia. Preparing to invade Lautern.

CHINA: Troops still seem to be moving to Siangtan fro moth Henyang and Changsha. Holding my breath as bobbing hits the troops to potentially slow them and disrupt those that might shock from Changsha. It'll be interesting. Menawhile near Sian I've stopped faking movement into the city, but that 'showing' of movement seems to have led Torsten to pull back some of his troops on the gray road forming the blockade. He still has greater numbers, but if he takes out any more I could be able to DA within a few weeks once reinforcements arrive.

BURMA: The Burma troops hold! The 66th Chinese Corps attacks our fragments in the woods and only gets a 1:3 adjustment, resulting in major disablements for the Chinese. This is a fantastic result! It should mean there is time now for a little rolling of the dice.

Troops in Semarang and Soerabaja prepare to get aboard amphibious TFs bound for Burma. I've made a choice. I will attempt one landing while I have the bonus; at Rangoon! Recon shows good Allied numbers (22k) at Chittagong, and without a fully dominant KB I would feel out on a limb over there. At least I have two elite LBA zeros groups plus two Netty groups near Burma and several other IJAAF groups in range for extra CAP and strike forces should Allied CVs intercept. The KB as it stands should be able to hold it's own now against up to 3 US CVs and a British or two, but I don't want to just hold my own. If we trade, it's a loss for the IJN, especially in this game.

Still, Burma is too important, and a landing at Rangoon could create a dominant Japanese position there, potentially trapping troops at Moulmein and supporting the troops in the center. The goal would be to wreck the large Chinese units as well, leaving the mountain approaches potentially vulnerable. It's a gamble, but the benefits are valuable enough to outweigh the risk. The landings will be pushing the deadline, so I may have to go flank speed for th a last few days to get everything there. The KB and all SCTFs are moving to Singapore to begin preparations.

MALAYA: Singapore is a hub of bustling activity as hundreds of ships come together to support Operation Python.

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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 62970 troops, 521 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 2262

Defending force 97043 troops, 596 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3188

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35835 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1010

Defending force 25448 troops, 353 guns, 149 vehicles, Assault Value = 833

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
357 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 24 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 21537 troops, 259 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 799

Defending force 35816 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1008

Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Ground combat at Moulmein (55,55)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22773 troops, 350 guns, 226 vehicles, Assault Value = 1101

Defending force 21045 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 925

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
18th British Division
BFF Brigade
Rangoon BAF Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
2/3rd MG Battalion
17th Indian Division
108th RAF Base Force
107th RAF Base Force
Burma Corps
85th British AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
2nd RTA Division
4th RTA Division
3rd RTA Division
6th RTA Division
7th RTA Division

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 85623 troops, 602 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3362

Defending force 88251 troops, 845 guns, 323 vehicles, Assault Value = 2745

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
93rd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
57th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
8th Route Army
76th Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
Jingcha War Area
4th Group Army
39th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
1st War Area
56th AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
110th Division
35th Division
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
37th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
32nd Division
13th Division
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
58th Infantry Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
12th Army
13th Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment

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Ground combat at 57,49 (near Toungoo)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11285 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 410

Defending force 4751 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 191

Allied adjusted assault: 144

Japanese adjusted defense: 545

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-) ???

Japanese ground losses:
151 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
713 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 105 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Assaulting units:
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
21st Div /1

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quote:

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13 March 1942
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Today something finally to really cheer about! The shock to Siangtan crushed the Chinese and took the city! Banzai!!!

CHINA: The shock got an 8:1 and routed the Chinese. This will make it tough for Torsten to hold any of the central Chinese bases, and I can most likely pick them off one at a time. His best bet might be to retreat to better defensive ground to set up his next LOD, but for now at least he appears to be still moving troops to Siangtan from Changsha and Henyang. If he comes to fight more I'll be happy, as my troops have virtually no disruption or fatigue. Supply will be the only issue. I'm pouring more into both Canton and Shanghai in the next few days.


Great news, and well done!! That will give him something to mull over!!

Can you divulge any information about 'Operation Python'?
Or is it still a secret squirrel op?




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ORIGINAL: Empire101

Can you divulge any information about 'Operation Python'?
Or is it still a secret squirrel op?



It's just the above mentioned invasion of Burma by Sea. I guess I didn't make that clear at the end of the report.

Encirclement. Constriction. Suffocation.

(That is if the snake makes it out of the water. A big if!)

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 10/3/2012 2:19:57 PM   
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DEI: A BA will go at Batavia tomorrow. I've got a division and a Naval Guard here. The Allied AV at Palembang continues to plummet. Although not fast enough.

CHINA: The suply situation in Siangtan is good now. About 5k of supply, forts building, and trios looking fresh and ready. He's still showing movement from Changsha and Henyang, but nothing has come into the hex yet. I'm bombing those units warily, as I haven't seen the AVG in a while and it's about time for them to jump.

PACIFIC: A bunch of construction units have arrived down here, so now I have to go on a dot base spree with a few small SNLF Coy. I'll use all fast transport for these in case the Allies get frisky.

BURMA: The troops in the woods look to be able to hold for the time. His raw AV from the big Chinese unit dropped from 410 to 324 today after the failed attack in the hex. We went from 191 to 179. If these units can build a fort, it could be a long siege here and he'll have to bring more to get the hex.

In two days I'll para-drop on Bassein if the coast is still clear. I have enough in the area now to quickly fly in a bunch of troops. In addition to the regiment that will hold the hex, I'll send a small construction unit and an AF Coy. CAP will be key here if Operation Python goes forward and needs more cover at Rangoon.

MALAYA: Stil loading troops and simultaneously taking supply from the HI and fuel from Miri. It's busy right now a Singapore. Good air cover is provided by two big Oscar groups just in case. I don't trust that Torsten's air strength is exhausted in the DEI or that even the CVs couldn't come waltzing from across Sumatra to take a shot.


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35664 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 994

Defending force 25040 troops, 349 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 804


Allied ground losses:
224 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 27 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Ground combat at 57,49 (near Toungoo)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10602 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 324 He's dropped nearly 100 AV after his DA!

Defending force 4640 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 179


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
21st Div /1

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I'm deciding whether to build many Rufe's this time around. They're not able to really hold their own against any but the worst Allied fighters. The only advantage to them is they can add to the KB CAP package, maybe taking the low level, and can be flown off of AVs as well. So they can be in places where they're not expected sometimes. They didn't do much for me against JockMeister, but I'll probably build a few to fly from one CS that travels with the KB, but not as many as I did before.
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DEI: I lost an xAK bringing supplies to Palembang. The CD guns there are still working fine. At Batavia the BA gives enough info to see that the base should fall soon. A DA will follow now.

CHINA: A Corps from Changsha moves into Siangtan, but because the units from Henyang were only just arriving that turn, it shocks into the base against 2500 AV IJA troops. Needless to say that didn't turn out well for the Chinese. Over 400 infantry squads were destroyed. Torsten said he thought they shouldn't have shocked because the other troops from Henyang were in the hex, but maybe it is because they just moved in this turn and weren't established there. Anyway, this should lessen the likelihood of an attack on the base right now. The Chinese do outnumber us there, but not by enough, and tomorrow at least one fort will be ready.

Near Sian enough troops have moved fro mthe blockade that in about a week I should be able to begin trying to push them back.
BURMA: The small group of 4Es that Torsten has in India is bombing the troops in the woods, but hasn't had much effect. Tomorrow another para-drop is set to go landing at Bassein. Looks like just a rifle battalion there.

MALAYA: Troops are embarking for Sumatra, hitting the base near Medan, then walking up there. They should land tomorrow. The KB is at Singapore refueling and taking on more zeros. I should have all groups maxed in a few days.

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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 57,49 , near Toungoo

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 16000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 62907 troops, 521 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 2255

Defending force 65274 troops, 345 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2276

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
34th Division
57th Infantry Brigade
40th Division
6th Division
3rd Division
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion

Defending units:
87th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
17th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 82160 troops, 845 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2763

Defending force 62022 troops, 369 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2252

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
13th Division
35th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
110th Division
32nd Division
37th Division
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
58th Infantry Regiment
1st Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Army
13th Army
4th Mortar Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
42nd Chinese Corps
8th Route Army
38th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
1st War Area
4th Group Army
Jingcha War Area
39th Group Army


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35783 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1006

Defending force 24834 troops, 348 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 781


Allied ground losses:
259 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 15 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15289 troops, 136 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 536

Defending force 9191 troops, 77 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 116


Assaulting units:
38th Division
53rd Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Roodenburg Battalion
Afdeling Ritman
Tjilatjap KNIL Bn /2
Merak Base Force
KNIL Army Command
3rd KNIL AA Battalion
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
ML-KNIL
Kalidjati Base Force
Bandoeng Base Force
Semarang Base Force
Loemafjang Base Force
1 ML-KNIL Aviation
ABDA
Batavia Base Force
Malang Base Force

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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10608 troops, 178 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3536

Defending force 73661 troops, 644 guns, 290 vehicles, Assault Value = 2590

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 2522

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
5249 casualties reported
Squads: 436 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 312 disabled
Engineers: 27 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 29 (18 destroyed, 11 disabled)



Assaulting units:
2nd Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
99th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/B Corps
45th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps
1st Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
18th Artillery Regiment
25th Group Army
9th War Area
23rd Group Army
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
19th Group Army
3rd War Area
20th Artillery Regiment
7th War Area
27th Group Army
12th Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
32nd Group Army
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

Defending units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
8th Armored Car Co
22nd Division
39th Division
116th Division
104th Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

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Ground combat at 57,49 (near Toungoo)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10604 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 334

Defending force 4690 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 185

Assaulting units:
B Sqn 3rd Hussars Regiment
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
21st Div /1

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With a big blockade still sitting in Moulmein, if I can fly in and land enough troops behind them there is the chance to catch some troops in Burma. Also, the blockade on the rail in the woods will potentially help trap some of these units if it can hold. Looking to the future, the 14th tank is still holding the rail line near Lashio, and hasn't been threatened yet. Schwebo seems to be completely empty, and if this continues to be true, this will be the next destination for paratroops. Potentially as soon as April 1.
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China is getting interesting.

Near Sian Torsten has moved about half of his Corps back to the city to protect against the feinted shock attack I'm threatening. I am letting these troops get neary there before I stop them, so if he does move these forces back I will let mine go in. On the roadblock hex I'm bringing in two Brigades and a regiment to give me nearly double his current raw AV. His forces are dug in and have a lot of HQs present, so this could get bloody. I think I can wear them down though.

In Siangtan the IJA troops are happily waiting. There are a few more reinforcements about to arrive, a brigade and another tank unit. In Changsha I have 2200 AV and I won't attack unless he moves most of his troops out. I might even shift one division around to Siangtan. The Changsha hex is controlled on three sides by my troops, so there is an advantage from these interior lines. I'm sure it also helps the supply flow from the central bases.

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A fascinating game of chicken seems to be developing around Siangtan!!

Who will blink first?

It looks like you have him on the back foot though.

[ Emperor Palpatine mode ] Crush Them!! [ /Emperor Palpatine mode ]

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Another division is moving to Palembang, but the going is slow. Once it arrives I'll most likely split it and move in from all sides, closing the hex. His bombardments are still having an effect on my troops, but the IJA AV stays around 1000, while that of the Dutch troops falls about 20 points a day, now at around 780.

Batavia and Tilityap are still left on Java. Koepang has 6k troops and will be invaded soon. Medan is empty and we'll be walking there and beyond to Sabang. After that I'll start taking a look at North OZ, assuming I have CVs to use after Operation Python in Burma.

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Just building over here. Nothing much is happening. Port Moresby will be a bear if I do decide to invade later. Right now it's not an option.

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BURMA: The para-assault at Bassein went smoothly. The Yokosuka 1st SNLF and the 2nd Raiding Rgt took the base easily. Now for the big Bassein Airlift.

DEI: Tandjoengbalai is landed. Nothing is here, so after taking the base these troops will walk up to Medan and eventually Sabang. At Batavia troops got a 1:1 and lowered forts to 2. It'll keep going tomorrow.

CHINA: Nothing new no the ground today. A few more units from Changsha made it into Siangtan, bringing the AV in Changsha to only 2280. With this good defensive terrain though no attacks yet. I would estimate the AV in Siangtan now at about 4-4.5k AV. Forts there went to level 1 and are now building rapidly.

In the air virtually the entire IJAAF in China is aimed at troops besieging Siangtan. None of them flew due to weather. Frustration.
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Amphibious Assault at Tandjoengbalai (47,78)

TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Tandjoengbalai, 47,78

Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled

Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 112th Infantry Rgt
Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of 15th JAAF Base Force
18 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost in surf during unload of 55th Engr Rgt
18 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost overboard during unload of 55th Engr Rgt
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 112th Infantry Rgt /2
10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 112th Infantry Rgt /2


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Ground combat at 55,103 (near Soerabaja)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 960 troops, 0 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 78

Defending force 2151 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Japanese adjusted assault: 31

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 2 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
Commandement Marine
MLD
Soerabaja Base Force


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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 62916 troops, 521 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 2257

Defending force 65308 troops, 345 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2280

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
34th Division
40th Division
3rd Division
57th Infantry Brigade
6th Division
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion

Defending units: (No HQs. Could be telling later)
87th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
17th Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 82298 troops, 845 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2779

Defending force 62026 troops, 369 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2247

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35885 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1014

Defending force 24665 troops, 348 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 768


Allied ground losses:
256 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 26 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15332 troops, 136 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 539

Defending force 9237 troops, 77 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 118

Japanese adjusted assault: 423

Allied adjusted defense: 223

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
209 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 48 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
495 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)



Assaulting units:
38th Division
53rd Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Roodenburg Battalion
Afdeling Ritman
Tjilatjap KNIL Bn /2
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
KNIL Army Command
ABDA
1 ML-KNIL Aviation
Loemafjang Base Force
3rd KNIL AA Battalion
Batavia Base Force
Semarang Base Force
ML-KNIL
Bandoeng Base Force
Merak Base Force
Kalidjati Base Force
Malang Base Force

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Ground combat at 47,93 (near Praboemoelih)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 13454 troops, 123 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 476

Defending force 837 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 445

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 445 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
617 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 47 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
5th Division

Defending units:
2 ML-KNIL Aviation
ML-KNIL /1


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Ground combat at 57,49 (near Toungoo)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10606 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 338

Defending force 4753 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 191



Assaulting units:
B Sqn 3rd Hussars Regiment
66th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
91st Naval Guard Unit
1st Raiding Regiment
21st Div /1


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Ground combat at Bassein (54,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 811 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 389 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Japanese adjusted assault: 38

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 38 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bassein !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Units retreated 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /1
2nd Raiding Rgt /1

Defending units:
6th Burma Rifles Battalion


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I'm really enjoying the paratroops this game. There seem a lot of opportunities to use them effectively to get behind enemy lines i the opening stages.
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CHINA: The Chinese attacked!!

Torsten is aggressive. This is known. Today that didn't turn out well. The big stack worth almost 3900 AV with independent artillery and a ton of HQs launched a DA today at Siangtan getting a 1:3 result. The IJA had managed to raise forts to level 2, and that was not good for the KMT. Almost 500 infantry squads were destroyed outright, and another 549 disabled. Our troops lost almost 200 infantry squads disabled, but still have good supply and only moderate fatigue/disruption.

Tomorrow will not be pretty. I will SA here and the Chinese could very well have this stack decimated completely. It was good that the IJAAF bombardment also arrived in full force today. I'm sure that helped kick things off. Tomorrow I will tone that down, flying mostly Lilys to give a little extra, but I'm wary that Torsten will bring in the AVG to try to save something here.

It should be a fun day!

DEI: Batavia lost another fort, but our troops are taking some disablements. I might sit for a day to get fatigue/disruption levels down, bomb the base, and go again in two days.

BURMA: In Burma the flights have gone well into Bassein. Another three units are appearing in the base, slowly. A group of Lilys is also flying in supply to augment the transports. He's bombarding the units in the woods to little effect. About 1 squad a day is disabled.

MALAYA: We're getting close to ready here. All TFs are meeting at Singapore and tomorrow will push off toward the Burmese front.


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Pre-Invasion action off Lautem (72,115)

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso
DD Tsuta
DD Kasumi
DD Yamagumo
AMC Asaka Maru
DD Yugure


Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


BB Hyuga firing at 2nd KNIL AA Battalion
BB Ise firing at 2nd KNIL AA Battalion
BB Fuso firing at 2nd KNIL AA Battalion
DD Tsuta firing at 2/4 MG Battalion
DD Kasumi firing at 2/4 MG Battalion
DD Yamagumo firing at 2/4 MG Battalion
DD Tsuta fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
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Morning Air attack on 1st Artillery Regiment, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 39
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 34
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 53
Ki-51 Sonia x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
549 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 85 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Also attacking 72nd Chinese Corps ...

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Morning Air attack on 19th Group Army, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 30


No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
279 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 41 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 75th Chinese Corps, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 19
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 29

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Afternoon Air attack on 25th Group Army, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 19
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 310 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2672

Defending force 123751 troops, 823 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3899


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35927 troops, 668 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1019

Defending force 24453 troops, 346 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 749


Allied ground losses:
212 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)


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Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 15361 troops, 165 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 505

Defending force 8879 troops, 77 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 80

Japanese adjusted assault: 229

Allied adjusted defense: 183

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
692 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 61 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
257 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 114923 troops, 823 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3895

Defending force 74639 troops, 645 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 2672

Allied adjusted assault: 911

Japanese adjusted defense: 2737

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1703 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 194 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 42 (36 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
14095 casualties reported
Squads: 445 destroyed, 549 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 338 disabled
Engineers: 29 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 72 (28 destroyed, 44 disabled)



Assaulting units:
72nd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/B Corps
46th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps
3rd War Area
19th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
25th Group Army
32nd Group Army
12th Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
7th War Area
20th Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
9th War Area
18th Artillery Regiment
23rd Group Army
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
27th Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

Defending units:
8th Armored Car Co
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Division
39th Division
104th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
116th Division
22nd Division
7th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

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The Chinese offensive that has already lost them over 8k infantry squads so far, is continuing to go badly, and I hope to be able to take advantage of this defeat and push forward deep into the Chinese center soon.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 10/4/2012 5:13:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert



Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 114923 troops, 823 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3895

Defending force 74639 troops, 645 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 2672

Allied adjusted assault: 911

Japanese adjusted defense: 2737

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1703 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 194 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 42 (36 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
14095 casualties reported
Squads: 445 destroyed, 549 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 338 disabled
Engineers: 29 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 72 (28 destroyed, 44 disabled)



Assaulting units:
72nd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/B Corps
46th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps
3rd War Area
19th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
25th Group Army
32nd Group Army
12th Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
7th War Area
20th Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
9th War Area
18th Artillery Regiment
23rd Group Army
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
27th Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

Defending units:
8th Armored Car Co
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Division
39th Division
104th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
116th Division
22nd Division
7th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

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The Chinese offensive that has already lost them over 8k infantry squads so far, is continuing to go badly, and I hope to be able to take advantage of this defeat and push forward deep into the Chinese center soon.
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A great victory!!!
Well done Obvert.....the Force is with you!!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 10/5/2012 7:52:46 AM   
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CHINA: The battle for Siangtan is finished. The IJA shock attacked today resulting in almost inconceivable Chinese losses. After the failed Chinese DA yesterday the IJA achieved a 3:1 adjustment and staggering Chinese casualties, with over 1,500 squads destroyed plus massive losses in support troops. This will surely open the door to the entire center of China. My troops are exhausted and have a lot of disabled squads after that, but will only take a day or two to rest before pushing on. It's good that a few fresh units were already on the way. All of these will direct toward Henyang and try to really put the hammer down on the shattered army that retreated there.

Torsten did move in not just the AVG, but also Hurricanes from several British fighter groups plus one other US fighter group. He did well in the skies, shooting down about 40 planes for the loss of 15 fighters. My losses were mostly Lilys, as I held back most of the Sally groups thinking something like this uber CAP might show up.

DEI: Troops will DA at Lautern tomorrow. Also again at Batavia.

BURMA: Just flying troops around, but with all of the Allied fighters in China, there are no issues with that today.

MALAYA: All forces are prepared and will move out for Operation Python tomorrow. They will gather at Geaorgetown and then move out quickly, some may even go at flank to get there before the invasion bonus has finished.

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Ground combat at Siangtan (81,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 71212 troops, 607 guns, 352 vehicles, Assault Value = 2533

Defending force 113022 troops, 780 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3015

Japanese adjusted assault: 1424

Allied adjusted defense: 407

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
10057 casualties reported
Squads: 292 destroyed, 541 disabled

Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 140 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 45 disabled
Guns lost 43 (20 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Vehicles lost 35 (4 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Units pursuing 2

Allied ground losses:
45408 casualties reported
Squads: 1545 destroyed, 387 disabled
Non Combat: 2164 destroyed, 485 disabled
Engineers: 43 destroyed, 56 disabled
Guns lost 247 (95 destroyed, 152 disabled)

Units retreated 33

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
116th Division
39th Division
22nd Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
17th Division
104th Division
7th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
99th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
55th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese/C Corps
12th Group Army
9th War Area
22nd Artillery Regiment
25th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
72nd Chinese Corps
7th War Area
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
32nd Group Army
23rd Group Army
20th Artillery Regiment
3rd War Area
1st Artillery Regiment
29th Group Army
19th Group Army
27th Group Army
18th Artillery Regiment
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment
4th Chinese/B Corps

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Morning Air attack on 53rd Chinese Corps, at 81,52 (Siangtan)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 29
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 17



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 12
Hurricane IIa Trop x 13
Hurricane IIb Trop x 32
P-40E Warhawk x 57


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 8 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
AVG/1st Sqn with P-40E Warhawk (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
18 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
AVG/2nd Sqn with H81-A3 (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIa Trop (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
No.232 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
AVG/3rd Sqn with P-40E Warhawk (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Raid is overhead
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 23000
Raid is overhead
No.242 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Raid is overhead
49th PG/7th PS with P-40E Warhawk (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
17 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36020 troops, 668 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 1022

Defending force 24393 troops, 345 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 741

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
273 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 22 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

Erick, I can tell you that you are wrong about the size of the Chinese. I am at Feb 21, 1942 and I have 30,499
active Chinese rifle Squads. Plus 1096 Cavalry squads, 103 Engineers, and 2176 MMG sections. That is 33,784 AV total.
So you have destroyed about 22% of his total AV at this point. Not to mention the Mortars, FA, At guns, and support.





At my last tally, after the complete annihilation of an entire Chinese army in Nanyang, 7,567 Chinese squads had been destroyed. Many of these will re-spawn in Chunking as understrength low moral low experience units.

Here are some new numbers adding what happened today.

3,008 squads destroyed since the last tally. None of these were destroyed units, so none will re-spawn, thus making these losses potentially more devastating to the Chinese effort.

Total Chinese squads destroyed so far:

10,575

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ON HOLD
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After the series of Chinese moves and IJA responses in the Siangtan area, the game is on hold. Torsten is very busy right now, which is one reason. The other reason has to do with him suddenly taking a greater interest in trying to save something out of the mess that has developed in the center for him. He has insinuated in earlier correspondence that losses in China didn't really matter much to him as this was not his main focus in the game. Now it appears he's changing his mind a bit about that.

He also plans to be away soon for several weeks or longer, so I am unsure how much he will want or be able to play during that time.

All of this comes at an exciting time for me in the game. The doors are open for some serious movement in China. I feel like Burma is about to break open as well, with multiple area of attack coming into play.

I also am interested in what will happen if I attract attention from the 3 US CVs plus one British CV that I suspect are protecting approaches to India. With the KB up to 3 CV plus 4 CVL the numbers would be fairly even but the US is still flying TBD and there still might be Buffs on board as well. It would be taking a huge risk to open up to an engagement now, but if the IJN came out ahead, even losing one CV for sinking two, it could keep the game on the oceans interesting for longer. If we got lucky and took out a few without loss, then things would swing our direction again and open up a lot of possibilities.

My hunch is that he will move US CV-based planes to land, but this would work better in India than in Burma. Rangoon has constant damage on the field and is the only really good field. I'l likely hit Port Blair in the next days to reduce it's effectiveness as well, plus I'll get a bit of deeper search into the Indian ocean in a few days as well by jumping onto one of the dot base Andamans and setting up Mavis there. It does help that for the moment a bunch of British and US fighters are in central China!
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 10/6/2012 1:45:13 PM   
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This is your post I was referring to:
quote:


I've just done some counting. It appears that over the course of the war so far, 7,567 Chinese infantry squads have been destroyed!!! That is a lot!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the total possible for the Chinese is somewhere around 22k AV when everything is at full TOE. So even though many of these will come back, that is at this point 21.62 months of replacements!

If 17 corps were destroyed at Nanyang, then maybe at 200AV each when they come back, that would be 3400 squads of new low moral and low experience mouths to feed.


The total possible is much greater than you thought. You have destroyed a lot and you will again take out China I am sure.

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ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

This is your post I was referring to:
quote:


I've just done some counting. It appears that over the course of the war so far, 7,567 Chinese infantry squads have been destroyed!!! That is a lot!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the total possible for the Chinese is somewhere around 22k AV when everything is at full TOE. So even though many of these will come back, that is at this point 21.62 months of replacements!

If 17 corps were destroyed at Nanyang, then maybe at 200AV each when they come back, that would be 3400 squads of new low moral and low experience mouths to feed.


The total possible is much greater than you thought. You have destroyed a lot and you will again take out China I am sure.


Yes, and thanks again for doing all of the tedious math! I'm fairly optimistic now that the center is toast. His troops in Changsha are virtually unable to help in Henyang, and can only really transit back through Changteh. That will give him a decent army on that side of things, but I can pursue and keep them from the SE areas. So the rail could be easy unless he has a big reserve in Tuyun or Kweiyang. I'd like to take the middle road though and try to beat him to Chikhiang. If I can get that base I will force him back further.

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Still nothing here. Torsten wrote yesterday to say he is bringing his computer to the US which ostensibly means he can do turns. We'll see.

I'm beginning to wonder now, though. We all need a break at times for various reasons I guess, so maybe this is just a breather.

I'll keep posting updates periodically if there is any more communication.


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After about 4 weeks of nothing, a turn arrived. Because this was begun as our 2nd game, and intended to be slower, I knew going in there could be breaks.

The difficulty now is trying to figure out what I was doing! I'll have to go back and read the AAR for a page or so. It will almost take going through every region unit by unit to see what they were up to, especially since I am in the middle of a last ditch effort to make use of the landing bonus in Burma.

An update soon when I can explain anything coherently.

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