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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 8:54:18 AM   
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Casualty ratios favor the Axis partly from a game adjustment for Soviet style attacks ( leads to higher casualties ) and the 1941 experience deficit for the Soviets ( 40ish vs 75ish for the Germans ).

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 10:01:24 PM   
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Turn 14, Before Soviet moves.

Mud! Mud paralyzes enemy activity in the Moscow area, and gives our troops a welcome breather. Unreadiness has fallen to less than a quarter of our army.

The fascists do, however, manage to achieve a bridgehead north of Moscow, and this one I can't throw back. I will, however, attempt to contain it.

The bad news is that I made a blunder. I figured that the enemy would not have enough mps to curve southwards and so weakly defended the southern Donbass. The reward was that Taganrog was captured with its Lagg factories unevacuated. Thankfully there are 3 other sites that produce those planes, but this one hurt. I opted to evacuated 15 arm points out of Stalino, and maybe that was the wrong choice. Now Rostov is threatened, adn there aren't many reserves in the south. The good news is that the defenders of Sevastopol withstood seven assaults without budging (some of those were air assaults). Had I the power I'd give them all Guards status.





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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 10:57:26 PM   
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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 11:06:46 PM   
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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 11:14:17 PM   
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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 11:26:36 PM   
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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 11:36:46 PM   
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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 11:39:51 PM   
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So was this overkill? Wanted to give a more in depth analysis up to now.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/30/2012 11:49:10 PM   
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That was a very timely mud turn!

The problem I see down south is that you have absolutely nothing stopping him from going nuts the following turn. He'll reestablish supply and run amok. I suppose as long as you hold Rostov this isn't fatal, but he could pocket more or less everything between Gorlovka and the Black Sea. You're going to need more stuff in Rostov, too.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 12:03:53 AM   
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Isolating those panzers is going to seriously limit his mobility next turn and potentially the turn after.
Don't underestimate the effect of a turn without fuel (after turn 2 or so) on the mobile divs.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 12:10:02 AM   
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They don't need to move very far, the terrain is clear, and there's nothing opposing them. I'm also assuming the got air resupply on their own turn.

If they can muster 20 odd MPs, that's good enough to cause real havok.

I would have used some of those tank brigades to slap some tar baby on those guys. Just park them adjacent to the enemy and force them to shake them off.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 12:45:59 AM   
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quote:

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So was this overkill? Wanted to give a more in depth analysis up to now.

Judging purely from the screen shots I'd say that the better option would have been to hit that Slovakian mot division.It would have isolated more divisions for very little effort.
Tell me the last screen shot isn't the final position.If it is then your army at Stalino has it's head in a noose.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 2:20:12 AM   
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No final positions are coming now. I was asking if the level of detail on the counter attack was overkill, with every air bombardment and detailed casualty reports and such.

EDIT: The Slovakian/panzer stack was unviable. I studied it but wouldn't have been able to get forces with enough mps for a strong deliberate attack. Had it been logistically possible it would have been the best option, I agree

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 2:23:17 AM   
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End of turn.

In order to bolster the defense of the Donbass and Rostov I have stripped southwestern front fairly dry. Units get railed in all over. As not much is happening due to mud and quiet pull backs, no mega picture this time.

The slow retreat in the north:






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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 2:25:21 AM   
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Moscow, where unit density has gotten so high I'm having a lot of trouble keeping things even moderately organized.






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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 2:33:39 AM   
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And finally the south, where an ad hoc defense has been made to try and goad 821 to maneuver north and form what would hopefully be the last pocket of the war. Blue arrows are where I hope he goes, orange where I hope he doesn't. More reinforcements are on the way, but we just need 3 more turns until mud.

Rostov is mostly evacuated. If everything goes to plan Rostov will be empty by next turn, and then the evacuation of Moscow (hopefully the last major evacuation of the war) will begin.




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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 3:31:41 AM   
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Heh, warn us next time when you are mid turn so that I don't get a panic attack. I assumed those were end turn screens earlier.







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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 4:01:33 AM   
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I may like to play it fast and loose, but not that much, still I've stripped SW, NW and N bare. He has no armour there to exploit so it's a slow 2 hex retreat all the way.

A few questions:

-With the winter starting to come up, should I start building anything? Sappers? Saving up APs? I need to burn APs to counterattack, so I haven't built up an AP piggy bank.
-I Need more Fronts! Really, when do I get the Caucus Front? Or at least the units. Its murder to see all those units frozen.
-Siberian infantry! I have 4, and I love them. I want to hug them. They hold the 3 main hexes on the direct path to Moscow. I want more. How many do I get?
-What should I do with those tank brigades? I'm just dispersing them around hoping they'll do something in reserve mode. But each has 6-8 tanks, so it seems just a tremendous waste.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 4:15:28 AM   
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You'll get a 250 AP dump when the 2 Caucasian fronts activate later on. Buy enough sappers to trick out your cavalry corps.



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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 4:46:28 AM   
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Overkill on the screenies? A bit. I just make note of the number of air attacks on a unit, don't really care of the results, unless I am the one doing the attacks. But, if you feel the effort is not a problem on your end, I am sure someone out there will appreciate and pour over every detail. Nice stuff overall.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 8:18:20 PM   
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quote:

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-What should I do with those tank brigades? I'm just dispersing them around hoping they'll do something in reserve mode. But each has 6-8 tanks, so it seems just a tremendous waste.


I would put them to good use. According to my nasty war philosophy all my pixel-truppen must earn their weekly vodka or drop dead...

But anyway, I tend to mass the rifle divisions (I want Guards DIVISIONS, that's the top priority), so it's all about free space: is there any room for an extra unit (let's say a tank brigade) at the massed frontline?

If you have let's say in some places a 2-units stacks (instead of the ideal 3-unit), you might want to add a tank brigade. The rifle divisions will do the real job, and if successful, your tank brigade (involved in the attack) will be closer to Guards status

Finally a Soviet player called TDV used the tank brigades - cavalry units combo to literally annihilate enemy units... He succeeded. Not sure it's 100% fair but it's more than possible

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 5/31/2012 10:37:12 PM   
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well brigades have the highest percentage chance to enter battle in reserve mode, so hopefully setting them all as reserves may yield some results. Beyond that I can only really think of them for exploitation or stacking up with cavalry. The problem is that there are so many tank brigades that this is diluting armour strength, all of them have 4-10 tanks, increasing at around six tanks per week, they're never gonna be up to strength in time to have any effect during the blizzard. Unless I refit them, but that reroutes reinforcements from the much more important rifle divisions.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 6/1/2012 12:02:20 AM   
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Turn 15:

All hell breaks loose.






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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 6/1/2012 12:09:52 AM   
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Axis conducted upwards of 200 attacks this turn, I didn't think this was possible.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 6/1/2012 12:17:31 AM   
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This should give you some sort of idea on the scale of the carnage on the Moscow Front. A lot of those battles began as holds, requiring repeated attacks.




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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 6/1/2012 1:09:47 AM   
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You just need to suck it up for two more turns.

The good news is, you can bust out Bryansk Front with ease, at least from what I can see on the screens.

I'd seriously consider sending off some of those units due west and go raiding in AGC's rear, btw. That cavalry division NE of Orel in particular.



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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 6/1/2012 1:27:40 AM   
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Screw busting out, I'm encircling them wholesale. Or at least that's the plan.

Problem is, I can't figure out how to airdrop an airborne brigade. I stack it with an airbase, select the brigade, press f9, left-shfit click and... nothing. What am I missing here?

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 6/1/2012 1:30:29 AM   
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Yeah, that panzer group's flanks are hanging by a thread.

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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 6/1/2012 1:33:14 AM   
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ONE MORE HEX DAMMIT!!! HOW DO I AIRDROP A UNIT! IT'S AN ENTIRE PANZER ARMY

Edit: Feel the pain.




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RE: 41-45 GC AAR notenome (sov) vs 821Bobo (axis) no 82... - 6/1/2012 1:36:35 AM   
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Is there any reason why I can't drop an airborne regiment on that village? The game isn't telling me anything, am I doing something wrong?

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