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OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/5/2012 5:21:28 PM   
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Story here:

http://www.griffonmerlin.com/2012/04/26/p-40-kittyhawk-found-in-egyptian-desert/

Pictures here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/114682566226043469349/Zdj_samolot?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKjxkt6rkNTFKg&feat=directlink#



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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/5/2012 5:27:22 PM   
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Knavey -

Outstanding link, photos and subject. I do hope that the wreck can be salvaged and preserved.

Thank you, Sir!

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/5/2012 5:40:34 PM   
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Great photos, thanks for sharing.

Sad about the pilot. Survived the crash only to be swallowed up by the desert.....

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/5/2012 5:43:37 PM   
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Nice photo's but their braver than I am. That powder their picking up can be unstable at that age. Having something detonate when you pick it up can ruin your whole day...

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/5/2012 9:41:09 PM   
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Really amazing condition. An excellent candidate for restoration. Thanks

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/5/2012 11:24:48 PM   
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An H-87A-3 was a Kittyhawk Mk 1A which were P-40Es in US service. The gun tubes in the wings look like an early E. The early Es had very little flange around the gun tubes where they emerged from the wing. Later Es (and subsequent versions) had a fairing around the gun tubes.

Amazingly good condition, I wonder who will restore it. I bet Paul Allen is angling for it.

The last few weeks have been full of news about lost warbirds found between the Spitfires in Burma and this.

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/5/2012 11:58:43 PM   
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Awesome photos. Yes those Spitfires are supposed to be still in crates and packaged well~!

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/6/2012 2:53:09 PM   
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quote:

An H-87A-3 was a Kittyhawk Mk 1A which were P-40Es in US service. The gun tubes in the wings look like an early E. The early Es had very little flange around the gun tubes where they emerged from the wing. Later Es (and subsequent versions) had a fairing around the gun tubes.

Not so sure about the American Survive. The national markings on the back are either British, Australian or Kiwi. Which one has the yellow circle on the outside? British

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/6/2012 3:51:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

quote:

An H-87A-3 was a Kittyhawk Mk 1A which were P-40Es in US service. The gun tubes in the wings look like an early E. The early Es had very little flange around the gun tubes where they emerged from the wing. Later Es (and subsequent versions) had a fairing around the gun tubes.

Not so sure about the American Survive. The national markings on the back are either British, Australian or Kiwi. Which one has the yellow circle on the outside? British

I think it is early war British marking, In late war marking, darker colors have bigger circles and yellow was reduced

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/6/2012 11:50:16 PM   
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All Commonwealth air units operating in Europe and Africa came under the control of the RAF and used RAF standards for insignia. The only way to tell the nationality of the unit is to know what letter codes went with which squadrons. When the US entered the war in North Africa, some early units operated with British tail flashes and all US aircraft in Europe and North Africa conformed to the RAF's squadron code system. That's why American aircraft in those theaters all had a three letter (or sometimes letters and number) code.

In the Pacific, the US was free to do it's own thing and had a different system for unit ID.

This is definitely not an American operated P-40E. All the Warhawks in the area were either British or operating under RAF control.

The British roundels were different in different positions. On the side of the fuselage, they had a yellow border. The size of the border varied with time and unit. The wide yellow surround was mostly early war, but some planes in 1942 had it.

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/7/2012 12:29:20 PM   
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Remember when the Lady Be Good was found back around 1959-'60??

I am sure the deserts holds as many tragic ends as do the oceans and lakes of the world.

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/11/2012 10:18:51 PM   
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Yahoo had kinda a partial update to the story about the pilot -
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/fighter-plane-world-war-ii-found-194133295.html

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/13/2012 11:57:17 AM   
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Hi all,

Pictures and story from last week's Daily Mail UK:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2142300/Crashed-plane-Second-World-War-pilot-Dennis-Copping-discovered-Sahara-desert.html


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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/14/2012 10:14:05 PM   
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Damn What a way to go............. No Thanks.

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/15/2012 6:36:29 AM   
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In excellent condition, too!

Funny how it looks like it's sitting on the surface of Mars. Considering where it is out in the middle of nowhere, it may as well be. I can't imagine what must have been going through the mind of the pilot before he faded.

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RE: OT - P-40 found in Egyptian desert - 5/15/2012 8:10:28 AM   
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Hi all,

BTW, it must be emphasized that, judging from photos (i.e. bullet holes), the P-40 was shot down and then did the emergency landing in the desert...


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