From: Jackson Tn
I see that you were just playing with me nd that's just fine. Your opinion is just that an opinion that almost defies all logic. And if logic dictates reason then the only conclusion can be without the west, Germany wouldn't have been defeated. Take US and the Uk out and you have a statement . Back and forth. You post I post. Let's find some common ground,
Not fair to say I was playing with you. I did more reading and thinking on the topic today and saw no reason to alter my thoughts on this issue. My opinion and understanding of WW2 has changed dramatically, BUT SLOWLY, over a 10 year period.
I am not sure what I wrote defies logic, you might help me by clarifying.
Certain issues seem to get ignored during these discussions. First, the fact that Lend-Lease equipment did not arrive in large numbers until the second half of 42. By which point Germany was not going to win. Lend-lease may have hastened Germany's defeat, but that loss was going to happen.
As David Glantz says "Lend-Lease aid did not arrive in sufficient quantities to make a difference between defeat and victory in 1941-1942'', had Stalin and his commanders been left to their own devices, it "might have taken 12 to 18 months longer to finish off the Wehrmacht," but "the ultimate result would probably have been the same.
Ultimately I am not saying the West did not help, just that the assistance merely hastened the inevitable. Maybe I should posit that without the aid Russia might not have reached Berlin, fighting Germany to a standstill within the prewar borders. For Germany, this would have still been a defeat.
"I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast."- W.T. Sherman