Matrix Games Forums

Armageddon invasion starts in 2014Command Rommels Panzers in Battle Academy!Servers UpdateThe Deal goes Fourth!Command Ops gets a Massive Update!Lost Battles AAR: Smolensk 41War in the East: Lost Battles is here!Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear! Let's Play videoLost Battles Scenario Manual excerpts available!A sneak peek from Allied Corps!		 Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

Purchase or not?

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich >> The War Room >> Purchase or not? Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Purchase or not? - 4/12/2012 7:54:28 PM   
wga


Posts: 97
Joined: 9/29/2010
From: Sachse, Texas USA
Status: offline 		One of my old favorites was Apple IIe SSI/Grisby USAAF with a dozen vs human campaign games in the 1980s. I have Talonsoft/Grisby 12 O'Clock High but graphics only functional and my intended opponent running Microsoft Vista can never find files the game creates. So is this game played (will I be able to find an opponent) and is it better or just more complicated than the Talonsoft predecessor? I own UCV, WITH, WBTS, and EastFront and seems the games are far more complicated and would likely displace many of my other discretionary activities to actually learn & play.

_____________________________

Bill Thomson
bill@wargameacademy.org
skype: wga8888
817-501-2978 CST [-6 GMT]
Post #: 1
RE: Purchase or not? - 4/13/2012 12:29:25 PM   
Oliver Heindorf


Posts: 1899
Joined: 5/1/2002
From: Hamburg/Deutschland
Status: offline 		Bill, there are a few ppl still playing this game. compared to rthe Talon releases, the game has improved "under the hood". The interface is still the zillion click-festival per turn. There are no major changes or improvements in the interface, only a few improvements. The production interface has improved, it shows now better what is needed to produce what but there is still a lot of room for improvements.

The forum is, as you can see almost dead. I once found an PBEM opponent, but the game lasts only 3 or four turns ??

If you like, I'll can give you a shot on a pbem. I am eager to play BOB 40 Full Campaign as the defender (British side) to see the game mechanics.

"Better" well it depends how do you definate it. I still love the old GG titels as well but I wont play them again as compared to newer releases, there are always improvements made on the code here and there. Therefore I'll go with the newer releases and leave where the old titels belong: in my memory only.

(in reply to wga)
Post #: 2
RE: Purchase or not? - 4/13/2012 3:46:20 PM   
madflava13


Posts: 1486
Joined: 2/7/2001
From: Alexandria, VA
Status: offline 		I just fired up the game after probably 2 years not playing. I'm hooked again. I started an AAR to track my play - it's Allies against the AI in the 1943 campaign. Once I get a screencap program, it should be more interesting. I say buy it!

_____________________________

"The Paraguayan Air Force's request for spraying subsidies was not as Paraguayan as it were..."

(in reply to Oliver Heindorf)
Post #: 3
RE: Purchase or not? - 4/14/2012 1:28:53 AM   
wga


Posts: 97
Joined: 9/29/2010
From: Sachse, Texas USA
Status: offline 		Oliver

Thank you for the insight. I can play Talonsoft version which I own; my vista opponent has issues but I cant resolved them on skype. I do not own matrix Eagle day. I don't have BOB either. I will not likely make the purchase. My current time investment will in Uncommon Valor, War Between the States, War in the East and War In the Pacific-AE. Until I actually play one of these, I do not to play more.

Play past play of USAAF on an Apple IIE vs many human opponents was much enjoyed in the 10980s.

_____________________________

Bill Thomson
bill@wargameacademy.org
skype: wga8888
817-501-2978 CST [-6 GMT]

(in reply to Oliver Heindorf)
Post #: 4
RE: Purchase or not? - 4/30/2012 2:56:33 PM   
wga


Posts: 97
Joined: 9/29/2010
From: Sachse, Texas USA
Status: offline 		I will plan on buying it and contacting you in the future. Although I have my original Apple IIe, extended use may kill the 1983 machine. I have found playing AI not a good use of time and prefer the changing tactics of a human opponent. Emulators are fine but the interface is dated and game runs far too fast on modern machines.

The matrix games came out the same year as the [previous] talonsoft game so I expect is largely the same game with a backgroup tweaks you spoke of.

Vista has and issue with the 16 bit installers on early cd games such as the Talonsoft. Opponent may find the same issue with the matrix game.

I have one 30 year boardgame opponent from the 1980s that we are now playing games by email. Have an Uncommon Valor campaign going know. PLan on adding a War in the Pacific mid May, War in the East, War Between the States and the air war game. This is a decade long committement so the first one to die forfiets the games in progress.

Once I have the Matrix game in hand, will contact you for a mini-campaign or campaign.

_____________________________

Bill Thomson
bill@wargameacademy.org
skype: wga8888
817-501-2978 CST [-6 GMT]

(in reply to Oliver Heindorf)
Post #: 5
RE: Purchase or not? - 4/30/2012 5:28:59 PM   
wga


Posts: 97
Joined: 9/29/2010
From: Sachse, Texas USA
Status: offline 		I am going to buy it as it is still available. I would like to line up for a pbem game. I have another that has more free time than I (we both played USAAF on my apple IIe in the 1980s). He has issues with Talonsoft on Vista, game files created are placed in a hiddent directory somewhere I guess. As Talonsoft is out of business, need not tinker with it anymore.

_____________________________

Bill Thomson
bill@wargameacademy.org
skype: wga8888
817-501-2978 CST [-6 GMT]

(in reply to madflava13)
Post #: 6
RE: Purchase or not? - 4/30/2012 5:29:26 PM   
wga


Posts: 97
Joined: 9/29/2010
From: Sachse, Texas USA
Status: offline 		Send my your email for my contact list.

_____________________________

Bill Thomson
bill@wargameacademy.org
skype: wga8888
817-501-2978 CST [-6 GMT]

(in reply to wga)
Post #: 7
RE: Purchase or not? - 5/3/2012 7:25:44 PM   
wga


Posts: 97
Joined: 9/29/2010
From: Sachse, Texas USA
Status: offline 		Oliver, I now have the game. Am finding my multiple Uncommon Valor games are still leaving gaps in my free time. Will give you first shot at me if you want to start a PBEM before I post on the Opponents Wanted page.

_____________________________

Bill Thomson
bill@wargameacademy.org
skype: wga8888
817-501-2978 CST [-6 GMT]

(in reply to wga)
Post #: 8
RE: Purchase or not? - 5/4/2012 10:58:45 AM   
Oliver Heindorf


Posts: 1899
Joined: 5/1/2002
From: Hamburg/Deutschland
Status: offline 		I will sent you a pm with mail adress for the upcoming game

(in reply to wga)
Post #: 9
RE: Purchase or not? - 11/25/2012 9:06:03 PM   
BIG ERN

 

Posts: 29
Joined: 5/19/2011
Status: offline 		I am wondering what do I do with the nightfighters as Axis. They will be slaughtered in day will they not?

(in reply to Oliver Heindorf)
Post #: 10
RE: Purchase or not? - 11/25/2012 9:44:32 PM   
TaggedYa

 

Posts: 35
Joined: 10/9/2005
Status: offline 		You seem to be using the term night fighter when you mean day bomber destroyer. If you really mean flying night fighter units during the day then you need to know that it is very tricky to pull off and you can get your night units slaughtered that way.

Night units are asleep during the day and it takes an hour after you give the order to get them up and into the air. They are NOT dog-fighters. If they meet even lousy escort fighters they will get massacred. It is probably best for you to leave them on the ground in daylight until you get an idea what you are doing.

Also, some consider using them in daylight to be unrealistic.



_____________________________

TaggedYa

The Vociferously Verbose

(in reply to BIG ERN)
Post #: 11
RE: Purchase or not? - 11/25/2012 10:35:45 PM   
BIG ERN

 

Posts: 29
Joined: 5/19/2011
Status: offline 		Ok I guess its safe to assume then that any aquadron listed as available is a day fighter of some sort?
Ergo I just have to match the right squadrona against the right enemy.

(in reply to TaggedYa)
Post #: 12
RE: Purchase or not? - 11/25/2012 10:49:55 PM   
TaggedYa

 

Posts: 35
Joined: 10/9/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: BIG ERN

Ok I guess its safe to assume then that any aquadron listed as available is a day fighter of some sort?
Ergo I just have to match the right squadrona against the right enemy.


No. If it is daytime and a unit has a delay of 63 minuets then it is a night fighter unit. (typically NJG)

Usually (but not always) a day German bomber destroyer unit will have ZG in its name. They are Me 110B-2, Me 210, Me 410, and Ju88G-6a. Use them to attack bombers (usually the heavy bombers) after the escorts are turned back.

Base them back from the coast so that they need to fly forward to engage so when they turn for home they are going away from England so they don't meet fighter sweeps or fresh escorts.

And you need to move this discussion to its own thread now. Please don't post further on this topic in this thread.



_____________________________

TaggedYa

The Vociferously Verbose

(in reply to BIG ERN)
Post #: 13
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich >> The War Room >> Purchase or not? Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.160