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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/26/2012 11:04:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		For the action buttons, perhaps not, for 2 reasons :

1/ They are very oft used, so they must be very visible (and they are good, I think). If I change them, for a braun color like others, they will be not easely visible. Due to the fact they may be erased by command during game, they are not a pb for visibility of the map (the other buttons may not setted "off", so I had to change their look, to have less intrusive icons)

2/ I noticid that the use of other geometric symbol than circle, in the south of the map, is a little confusing for player (more than in the east or in the noth of the map)



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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/26/2012 10:58:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Founded a little tip to have "amovible interface" on the game main screen. So, now the map is entirely free from intrusing buttons, I did not like them at all when inactive or unused

Now, buttons appear only if mouse move on. This special "ghost interface" assumes that familiarized players with game know approx. where button are. When the buttons are inactives, they are just little red transparent squares.






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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/26/2012 11:01:11 PM   
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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/26/2012 11:04:11 PM   
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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/26/2012 11:27:50 PM   
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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 12:00:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to say that I was an addictive player of Europe Commander at war. But at this time, CEAW goes in second place for me, CEAW stays a very good game, but ToF is more better for my eyes (I do not love "complexe wargames" like War in the East : to much reports to read, too detailled, I prefer games for fun, with synthetic system. For that, To F is a perfect funny game. The next steep should be, in my opinion, as I said to Room : "Time of guns" - 1914-1918, with the same large big map.

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 1:32:33 AM   
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Waiting your upload.

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 8:42:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Studing the "modding lessons" on the master help modding thread, I have understand how works CSV modification. Great engine, this game is 100 % moddable, very good.

I founded with CSV files modification a little tip to have a more clearer map : a way to have not the minimap, and... to have it at the same time : my new minimap takes no place and you may use it : a ghost minimap, like ghost buttons. Crazy funny game, Doom has made a very good worj with

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 8:51:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is the minimap erased ? No ! You don't see it at this screen, but you may easely use it if needed. How ? You will see when I will upload the mod. Great (but very simple) tip.

Doom, you were sent by the wargamer's Good on the french "Quartier general forum" : without your intervention, I would have not get this gemm.

Note : the little black square in the high left corner is not part of the tip, just actual result of "in work stuffs", it will be replaced by the visible/invisible minimap.




It was a long way to the clear map for ToF, but I reached the final goal

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 9:08:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I will probably use, in my mod, the material I founded in "transparent windows mod" and in "large size combat result mod" : very great explanations in, good to learn, thanks to the old specialists who made these mod (and founded great help in Master help thread).

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 10:56:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Doom, a question, please : for the purpose of my mod, I projected to build a transparent minimap : only coast and borders , and it's all (it would have work like "invisible buttons , by transparence (but more visible than buttons)

For that, I modified a CSV file (for test, I took CSV GUI 1024 x 768)

Here are the 3 lines I have modified :


4 560 100 0 0 Minimap Panel Background Src

310 0 0 0 0 Minimap Panel Background Dst

315 27 18 185 102 Minimap Area

I suppose that the minimapaera is the space where the program "apply" the mouse jump instructions (wrong ? right ?). I suppose that panel background
is the background under the minimap image png (right ? wrong ?)

SO, after created my png file (red "transparent" image in PNG file - see screen, please), I TRIED for test but I have always the black background under the minimap. It comes not from a mlasp png pb : as you can see on the screen, my mask is ok for Gimp.

Any way to erase the black background ? If not, I will have to do a crual choice : perhaps erase minimap aera (I tried, it works fine and the map is more "free". But in this case, no more minimap jump

Sorry for lot of questions, but I am invading the vaste and large russian ToF modding space






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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 9:58:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		My first attempts event It work fine, the event system is vey usefull in game.




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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 10:15:16 PM   
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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 10:20:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		For newbe in modding : in attached file is a event structure type, that you may use to create more easely your own events, using the documentation here :
http://forum.wastelands-interactive.com/showthread.php?4809-Time-of-Wrath-modding-tutorial-Part-8
http://forum.wastelands-interactive.com/showthread.php?5165-Time-of-Wrath-modding-tutorial-Part-10

and using ENGINE EVENT txt (this file is in the event directory of each scenario in game)

The text of event is in txt format, you have to cut-copy the content in a xml editor

Here is a link for Bonfire studio, a free xml editor (very good, better than note pad I think) to modify or create xml files.

http://download.cnet.com/Bonfire-Studio/3000-7241_4-10070820.html
After creating a event, you have to include his name in the "event file" txt that is in the scenario directory (toallow ToF to find and execute it)


Here is the event (not attached because xml format not supported)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
- <eventSystem xmlns="WastelandsInteractive">
- <!-- Structure type of event for Time of Fury
-->
- <event eventID="Number of your event" countryID="Concerned country" visibleByPlayer="1 or 0" oneTimeChecking="1 or 0">
<title>title of your event(texte)</title>
<description>text you want to write to present the event to player in window during game</description>
<beginDate day="1 to 31" month="1 to 12" year="concerned year -i.e : 1939" />
<endDate day="1 to 31" month="1 to 12" year="concerned year -i.e : 1939" />
- <condition>
- <and>
- <expression>
<leftOperand method="concerned method - see EVENT ENGINE in events directory of game" param0="concerned country" />
<operator value="equals" />
<rightOperand constValue="1" />
</expression>
</and>
</condition>
- <options>
- <option optionID="1" chanceAI="100">
<description>Texte displayed in the button of event windows</description>
- <effects>
<effect method="concerned method - see EVENT ENGINE in events directory of game" param0="concerned country" param1="concerned parameter" />
</effects>
</option>
</options>
</event>
</eventSystem>


Note : in the xml editor you use, you have to "register as" xml (not as other format).

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/27/2012 10:27:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: doomtrader

Let me know if you would like to get any new event method.




Ok thanks, I will do if needed (founded the ENGINE EVENT list, very complete list)

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/29/2012 11:15:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Created a new political map, in addition of the vanilla political alignment map. This new political map concern only national colors and covers the map without any details (more usefull to see the "front dispositions")

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/30/2012 1:06:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		New look of game with all windows now transparent

The entire interface will be transparent, at different degrees, and will be visible only if needed and "called" by mouse

Ports and naval zone are now more visible, even at high level zoom. Same for political borders




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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/30/2012 7:23:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: welk

Created a new political map, in addition of the vanilla political alignment map. This new political map concern only national colors and covers the map without any details (more usefull to see the "front dispositions")

screen :







Looks really great

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/30/2012 8:43:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks The 2 other opaque splots in "Others" file will be reserved for the normal draw use option. I will also modify the political alignement color (to be opaque so) and the same for the "displayed fow option" hexagones. In this way, the political alignement map and the displayed fow aeras will be more transparents and yplayers would be able to see the map details in transparence, without losing colors. Of course, those who prefer to play with the entire clear map will choose the "no display fow option".

I wait now for the free bug editor, and I would love to b eable to create Austria, Czecholovakia and Coratia countries, Armenia, Ukraine, etc like I did in Commander Europe at war, to create some alternate scenarios ("What if? wars" between 1929-1939, opposing different countries than in vanilla game : Urss/Poland 1920-21 ; Anglo-italian war in med, what if? anglo-french war in med, Greeco-turk war during 1929-1921, etc etc).


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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/30/2012 6:58:10 PM   
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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/31/2012 9:09:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Interessant to know, thanks. But my attempts will be to add them as independant countries at start of the game, to have "alternate situations" in Europe.

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/31/2012 7:41:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Screen of new look of armored and motorized units (the look is inspired by the old boardgame wargame "The Great Patriotic War" (GDW)


The screen is in jpg format and not very visible, but it works fine in game




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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/31/2012 9:55:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		With these little modifications, players would more easely see their armored groups and air fleets groups at high level zoom, better to plane offensives




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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 3/31/2012 11:13:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Version 1.0 of the mod is now awailable here :

http://www.filefactory.com/file/3rcmw34lew4h/n/Classic_Wargame_Mod_rar

Improved version 2.0 will be uploaded later (with new sounds and new mains screens). This 2.0 version will also include a special "classic wargame mod" for the editor, and will rectify the possible errors or technical pb in this 1.0 version (report here, please).



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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 4/1/2012 6:28:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK,I got the map and mod counter to work, but my GUI is exactly the same. Where does the GUI.PNG file go? In the data folder there are many GUI csv files, but there is none in the mod.

Color me confused.

Thanks.

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 4/1/2012 8:24:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		See in the gfx folder of the mod, you should find a gui.png file. This file must be copied in the gfx folder of the game, with the 2 folders of the mod (no any CSG gui file has been modified in data : the only modified gui file is in png format and is in gfx folder

Concerning color, 4 background will be present in 2.0 version, to be choiced by player : green (as in 1.0 version), grey/white (as the old Third Reich boardgame), "cream" (as vanilla Agent S-TOW mod, and a more darker green (less "flashy").

Concerning the interface command/buttons, 2.0 version will also include alternate gui files, for less opacity (player may will choice the gui file he prefers)

I will also rectify a little pb concerning border of hexagones



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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 4/1/2012 8:24:08 AM   
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Interessant to know, thanks. But my attempts will be to add them as independant countries at start of the game, to have "alternate situations" in Europe.


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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 4/1/2012 8:33:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		No time for that, sorry, because I am working to add Japan

Evidently, the goal will not be to add Croatia and Ukraine in the WW2 vanilla game. Due to the fact the game seems 100% moddable, you have the possibility to create alternate historical situations in Europe. Creation of Yugoslavia could have been made without Croatia, Ukraine could have been independant country in 1918-1919 if red army had failed in south Russia, etc. Time of Fury autorize very interessant political/strategical/geo-strategical What if? situations on a verylarge scale, and that is why - for my eyes- this game is a gemm.

By sample : in 1934, the polish government has made a secret proposition to France : a preventive war against Germany, after Hitler took the power. One interessant thing could be to create Czechoslovakia in the game (at start), and to create a scenario of preventive war (France+Poland vs Germania, and Czechoslovakia may join later, or not, depending of a special event). Austria would be also created, and will stay independant and neutral during this alternate limite war.

Other possible what if : What would had happened if, in 1920-21, during the russian polish war, polish forces had not rpeulsed red army, and if red army had decided to invade Germany too ?


Other : in 1934 or 1936, Hitler try to force the italian decision about independant Austria, and war occurs : Germany vs Italy+Austria, for a short war = interessant what if


Short scenario of Spanish civil war (on the vanilla spanish map)


etc etc

Time of Fury, may be, could be a great tool to create alternate wargames with the large huge Europe map.

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 4/1/2012 10:45:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a little patch, that contains alternate color terrain (less flashy = looks like old boardgame Third Reich - Avallon Hill) +3 alternate gui files (less transparent than 1.0 version of the classic mod : you will may choice the opacity level you prefer : no opacity or medium opacity)

2.0 version will later include other alternate colors for terrain

The compressed attachef file is a winrar file with a zip extension. You will perhaps must to rename it with a rar extnsion (used zip extension because rar extension is not allowed here)

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RE: Classic Wargame Mod - 4/1/2012 10:50:29 AM   
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