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RE: Resource/stone - 3/24/2012 8:44:05 PM

el cid again

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ORIGINAL: bigred

Sid, what is the effect of a stone resource site?

I do not understand your term "stone resource site"
but I can comment on this rather unique location - one of several added in AUS
mostly because of things I learned from Cobra years ago.

Normanton has two possible values for the Allies - and one for Japan.
First - it is an air base - and a tiny static air support element (of QANTAS to support
the Empire Flying Boats) permits its usage immediately - it was needed
because the boats could not make the run from Darwin to Melbourne (I think it was)
without refueling. It could be built up into a base to cover the NE area - as several
sites can be.

Otherwise - it is in real life an export port for resources from nearby Karumba -
which is hopelessly involved with a mangrove swamp and useless as a port itself.
The resources will (slowly) export themselves to Normanton - UNLESS you build
up the port to level 3 - in which case - they will automatically transfer as required.

For the enemy, Normanton offers a neat invasion location. It won't be easy to
bring AUS land forces to bear in strength - lacking lines of communication.
And they won't like a Japanese base there - so it will divert their attention until
they clear it out - saving Japan a lot of trouble with bomber raids into the NEI -
which are a nightmare for Japan - as well as diverting troops from invasion duties
in various places outside Austraila.

Normanton was promoted to be the star port of the North - in competition with Darwin -
but it lost out in the end. It could, however, be developed considerably - and in some
situations - enemy presence in New Guinea in particular - it might be a good idea to
do that. Not to mention if you are there in strength - they can hardly invade easily.

Note the Norman River is navigable - and potentially a threat. Similarly - up by Darwin -
Timber Creek is a peculiar port - wholly uninhabited - used until just before the war
began to export more cattle than any other in the world! That river up there is also
navigable, and could be used by invasion forces - although they better bring their own
supplies. WITP correctly increases supply usage in the desert - and there is NO local
supply worthy of the name in the area. But in RHS, where rivers can be used, there
is also the possibility they might be used to flank or cut lines of supply. As you have
found in China, hitting ships in rivers isn't totally easy! You sailed right through my
gunboat flotilla - and some even lived to tell their grandchildren about it.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/24/2012 8:53:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigred

and this, I thought the replay was corrupted because the computer took so long to finish this combat. I hope the allies will have the same effective types of weaponry.

Regretfully (from a Japanese point of view), even more effective.

Here the effect is caused because RHS uses the actual bomb loads - with the right size bombs - and these Japanese bombers use
relatively small 50 kg bombs. A Ki-21 carries 15 to extended range, and 20 to normal range - far more than the 4 you are used to
in stock and mods based on stock. I am not even certain a Ki-21 could carry a 250 kg bomb (as in stock)? According to Francillon,
during its considerable development, the bomb load never changed. Ki-48s are similar - with 50 kg bombs used to normal range -
and the same number of 25 kg bombs to extended range - keeping the count up.

The Allies - on the other hand - have their cake and get to eat it too. You will note your aircraft types have notes after the name -
GP for example means General Purpose bombs - and there are even worse cases for soft targets in due course. Later in the war
incendary and fragmentation bomb loads are available. The first of these is the B-25G Mitchell ICB - with 4x 400 pound ICB clusters
as well as 4x 100 pound ICB clusters - I think each weapon is a cluster of three - and so it amounts to carrying 12 x 133 pound plus
12 x 33 pound bombs each (to normal range). The B-29B ICB is far worse - with no less than 16x 400 pound clusters plus 8x
100 pounders. These will devastate soft targets - and the B-25G is famous for its effect on airflelds - being specially modified in AUS for this
mission and kept in service for it when later models came off the line. Soft targets include land units, airfields, cities (if you believe
in strategic bombing - I do not - and regard it as both illegal and immoral - and both my parents were in B-17s). As well - the many small
bombs work re unarmored ships better than fewer larger ones do.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/24/2012 9:06:30 PM

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No - and in fact the effects you see are a result of toned down bombs. The soft effect of an HE bomb
or shell is related to the square root of its weight - not its full weight as in stock. So not only do small
bombs penetrate armor less, they also have less effect - per each. Nevertheless, small bombs in
big numbers are far more effective than fewer large ones in re soft targets - and that is deliberately modeled
here. Also - I have used the principle of concentration of force. This is a big raid for the Japanese -
and when you mount out similar size raids with non-Japanese bombers - it will be far worse. Except for the
Hudson - the most Japanese like Allied bomber - most Allied bombers have much bigger loads. These
tend to carry smaller bombs than in stock - although over time the Allies get variants with the same number
of bombs but larger in size. In general, your bombers start with 250 pound bombs (except for obsolescent
planes like the Dutch use) - and most improve to 500 pounders by midwar. And the design philosophy of
the bombers is different - WITP does not permit really heavy loads at short range - so what you see is the
normal and extended range loads. For Japan normal load range = maximum load range, but not so for the
Allies - most bombers could carry at least twice the loads we show if range was short. In the Pacific, this was
rare - range mattered - so most went to normal or even extended range. Some of your planes have special
bomb bay tanks that extend the range even more - but here - Sally pioneers with a small 500 litre one -
oddly not reducing her load at all - a development in the war with China before we got involved. But the Allies
take the idea to a much greater length. Your first plane with these - maybe also your best - is the LB-30 -
which gets astronomical ranges as transport or bomber - although you don't get many and cannot alter the
production rate. Your extreme case is former bombers turned into specialist recon planes - something the
G3M2KAI is demonstrating just now - planes that can fly from Hawaii to anywhere on the map - take pictures -
and return. These come mid war and just get better (not only more range, but better cameras and imaging
radar) as time goes by. Their former bomb bays are full of fuel. LB-30 (under several names) is a compromise -
with fuel in one bay - bombs in the other. There are also peculiar specialist planes - the Mosquito in particular -
with unbelievable range using drop tanks. Not to mention the fantastic P-51 - for which I will trade you one for one
any Axis plane you want - not that you would agree or that the game would permit it! And the P-47 is virtually as
bad - and available in astronomical numbers eventually. You don't even need proper bombers if you have these
planes!

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/24/2012 9:07:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigred

yes those vildebeast really can dish out punishment to uncovered Tfs. To bad all my air hqs are in redeployment.
AK Sagami Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Tosan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DM Hatsuyuki, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AK Hirokawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Shirakumo, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Sagami Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damageJapanese ground losses

They hit - and probably fatally damaged - every ship in the force but the flagship - although the mission still came off with the troops getting ashore.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/24/2012 9:08:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigred

These betties thought my junks where british DDs.

Only once did the DDs take a hit - in four days of air strikes. Just as IRL,
the DD will likely make it to fight somewhere else - never mind they began at Hong
Kong. But the gunboats - that also made it to Singapore - won't - as you left
them in China.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/24/2012 9:10:32 PM

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off Sarong, The allies like fast paced Japanese expansion plans also.

Too bad the action didn't come two days later - two carrier forces with fine heavy
cruiser escorts are inbound for these waters - where an offensive is about to begin.
But it was a gamble to send them out uncovered. Most such gambles paid off - this
one didn't. Well played.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/24/2012 9:20:35 PM

el cid again

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From: Commander Soviet Far East Command
To: Commander Kwangtung Army

Re: Events of 10 Dec, 1941 (Moscow Time)

Then came news of a group raid by JAAF fighters 80 nm into Soviet territory,
near Rybolov. Curiously, a smaller number of ancient Russian biplanes achieved
a 6:1 loss ratio - impressive even if they had a decisive altitude advantage.

These incursions by your forces will nor be tolerated. The air battle demonstrates superior qualities of Russian men and materials. In addition, this experience shows a complete lack of command and control on your part. We will not stand down. We also do not respect your idle threats. Take your planes and control your men.

Obviously you need to be sent to a diplomacy school. This is not the ideal way to prevent a war from breaking out on a new front.

FYI - as a designer - my purpose in active Russians was to give the Allies things they cannot have if they are passive.

YOU have control of where units are - they are not greyed out - frozen in places not where you wish.

YOU have control of where you build fortifications or airfields or ports. They are not locations you cannot access.

YOU have control of if you go to war - it is not a Japanese only prerogative. This should deter a Japanese player from stripping
Kwangtung Army - to use it against you other places. AE game mechanisms punish a Japanese player who does not keep a certain
amount of ground troops in the area - but he could strip 100% of the planes - and not incure a penalty. In RHS - hopefully - this
will not be considered.

Then there is the matter of uncertainty. I do not like rigid certainty - or one player with total power. I prefer that when things
go South - as well as IF they go South - to be under a sort of mutal control - where neither side can be sure what the other may do?
Nevertheless, the Russians IRL honored the treaty - and I expect a game player to do so as well - unless there is some cause so
great Stalin would have turned them loose. The Japanese were not really angels in this area - Manchukuo and Korea before it were RUSSIAN
territory taken by them - note in wars they won - and they planned to keep up the process into Siberia writ large - taking everything from
Chita East for themselves (a vast area rich in resources). But they were diverted by the need for oil - Siberia didn't have enough ready to
exploit in identified locations. The war with US, UK and their other allies was too big to permit an offensive North. So, however
reluctantly, I expet them to behave as well - at least unless the war goes so well they can actually contemplate another conquest.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/25/2012 4:35:33 PM

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maybe also your best - is the LB-30 -
which gets astronomical ranges as transport or bomber - although you don't get many and cannot alter the
production rate.

I am aware the allies can slow stop air frame production. Can I increase allied air production in this mod?

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 12:11:55 AM

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Unfortunately not.

I was forced to go the other way:

you get to produce the Wild Catfish - a float version of the F4F -
for which we have art (from RHSEOS in WITP days)
but unlike that mod - which is ahistorical - in this one - it is simply
because it was developed - too late probably.

If you don't like it - don't produce it. In other words, you can turn
it off - but you cannot increase its rate.

In general, for most types, I start production small, and allow you to
"repair" up until it is big. You don't have to do that - and may spend 1000
supply points for every factory you do not repair as a reward. Thus your
control is negative - but not positive. It would take a complete rewrite of
code to give the Allies similar production ability to the Japanese. Matrix
refuses to consider it - even for a whole new WITP version. They figure
you are a theater boss, not a production tzar - and you don't get to decide
that sort of thing.

IF I ever do a Japan enhansed scenario - I did about four in WITP days -
we might put in more things - based on different assumptions. But players
only have limited control of production on the Allied side.

I am considering more conversion options. Right now - Japan gets Shinano as a
carrier - but can "convert" it to a Yamato class battleship. Same with Ibuki - it
gets a light carrier - but can convert it to a CA. I could do that with your CVLs -
let em convert to CL - or in one class case - to CA. It turns out this is the way to do it
because a carrier version of a hull takes about 111 days less time to build than a gunship
version of the same hull. Of course, you cannot convert a gunship to a carrier in a time
efficient way - but I pretend the ship was always intended to be the gunship if a player
elects to take the (immediate) conversion option. It just is building for more time.

More esoteric, USN AVs were DESIGNED to be CVS - and in fact the Langley is now a CVS -
and you CAN put small floatplanes on it and use it that way! Because it was. USN elected
not to mount the catapults on most of the OTHER AVs - but it could easily be done and that
was the original design concept. So I could make AV convert to CVS
- but I have not done a comprehensive ship update - at least not yet. I would love to put
in The Lone Ranger if I can get filmstrip help - so called because only one was built. But
the biggest plane factory on the planet (at Renton Washington) was built (with seaplane
ramp) for it! It remained the biggest until Boeing Everette was built a generation later.
But if actual planning and investment counts, it was a serious option. Eventually they
decided to make B-29s in the plant instead. RHSBBO was a version in which both sides
got what they planned for - more gunships - more flying boats and seaplanes. We might
try for a version in which you get all - and need to turn off production of what you don't want.

While the historical OB is just that - it isn't a balanced fleet - as USN teaches the idea -
and more gunships might really make sense.

< Message edited by el cid again -- 3/26/2012 10:53:48 PM >

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 1:20:18 AM

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Sid -

Am absolutely delighted that RHS is alive and well in the AE format. Missed your AAR earlier, have just finished reading and thoroughly enjoyed the action.

Big Red -

You add a great deal to this AAR with your enthusiastic play style and many questions (and Sid's responses) which increases my understanding of the RHS concepts. I loved the image of a (massively!) bombed runway with a high hit count - the Japanese Bomber Boys are a force to be reconded with and need to be taken seriously...!

Keep it up Gents. I am interested in following the ongoing testing. Sid - I very much appreciate your detailed answers to all questions, and enjoy the history behind your design decisions.

Till Later,

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 3:14:55 AM

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Achtung Leser. ElCid wird f�r eine qualifizierte Nippon Kommandant f�r seine anderen Test-Spiel suchen. Dont be shy und Zeitbedarf ist etwa 2/3 Umdrehungen pro Woche.

Atenci�n lectores. Elcid est� buscando a un comandante de la Nippon cualificado para su juego de otra prueba. No sea t�mido y requisito de tiempo es aproximadamente 2/3 turnos por semana.

Вниманию читателей. ElCid ищет квалифицированного командира Nippon за другой игровой тест. Не надо стесняться и требование времени составляет около 2/3 оборота в неделю.

重视读者。 ElCid正在寻找一个合格的日本指挥官对他的其他测试比赛。不要害羞和时间的要求是每星期轮流约2/3。

重視讀者。 elcid正在尋求一個遊戲的另一個測試合格的日本指揮官。不要害羞，每週約2/3的時間要求是轉變。

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 1:21:26 PM

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Achtung Leser. ElCid wird f�r eine qualifizierte Nippon Kommandant f�r seine anderen Test-Spiel suchen. Dont be shy und Zeitbedarf ist etwa 2/3 Umdrehungen pro Woche.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 10:25:41 PM

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Poor Cynthia. She really had some fine lines...

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 10:36:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: Historiker

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Achtung Leser. ElCid wird f�r eine qualifizierte Nippon Kommandant f�r seine anderen Test-Spiel suchen. Dont be shy und Zeitbedarf ist etwa 2/3 Umdrehungen pro Woche.

Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed off Borneo - and air... - 3/26/2012 10:38:47 PM

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I had no less than 6 CV, 4 CVL/CVE, and 3 CVS in range
of detected naval targets with 33 squadrons or elements of
aircraft

and almost as many land based units set to engage naval
units

but except in China my air strikes failed to launch

The loss of the small TF near Borneo was expensive -
thousands of troops on board - clearly sending uncovered
TFs is unwise with a player who does not simply run!

But you were lucky - it was the 3 DD from Hong Kong,
likely in transit.

I now have two major surface TFs and two carrier TFs in
the area - so perhaps we will see some real action.

This was the first airborne assault opposed I have tried with
the new values of devices.

Sid

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 10, 41
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Invasion Support action off Kuantan [Malaya] (51,79)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

17 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AK Hirokawa Maru
AK Tosan Maru, on fire

AK Hirokawa Maru firing at IA 22nd Brigade
AK Hirokawa Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Hirokawa Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Submarine attack near Lahaina [Maui] at 184,105

Japanese Ships
SS I-23

Allied Ships
xAPc Cynthia Olson, Shell hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage

xAPc Cynthia Olson is sighted by SS I-23
SS I-23 attacking on the surface
Massive explosion on xAPc Cynthia Olson

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Submarine attack near Kuantan [Malaya] at 52,79

Japanese Ships
DM Hatsuyuki

Allied Ships
SS RNN KXIII

DM Hatsuyuki is sighted by SS RNN KXIII
SS RNN KXIII launches 4 torpedoes

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Submarine attack near Palembang [Sumatra] at 49,90

Japanese Ships
SS I-52 [Later I-152]

Allied Ships
xAKL UK Tatung

xAKL UK Tatung is sighted by SS I-52 [Later I-152]
Captain of SS I-52 [Later I-152] elects not to launch torpedoes at this target

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Submarine attack near Palembang [Sumatra] at 49,90

Japanese Ships
SS I-52 [Later I-152]

Allied Ships
xAKL UK Tatung

xAKL UK Tatung is sighted by SS I-52 [Later I-152]
Captain of SS I-52 [Later I-152] elects not to launch torpedoes at this target

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Submarine attack near Ise & Tsu [C Hon] at 109,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Wales Maru, Torpedo hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 7

xAK Wales Maru is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 7
SS Ghost Submarine 7 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Wales Maru

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Submarine attack near Port Kembla [NSW] at 89,171

Japanese Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 103

Allied Ships
xAKL AUS Burwah, Torpedo hits 3

xAKL AUS Burwah is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 103
SS Ghost Submarine 103 launches 6 torpedoes at xAKL AUS Burwah

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Hanyang/Wuhan at 83,50, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PG Ataka RGB
PG Saga RGB
PG Seta RGB
PG Hira RGB
PG Hozu RGB
PG Atami RGB
PG Futami RGB
CA Iwate
CA Idzumo

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Hwang He 21, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
xAPc ROC Hwang He 22, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 57% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 57% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 2,000 yards
xAPc ROC Hwang He 22 sunk by CA Idzumo at 2,000 yards
xAPc ROC Hwang He 21 sunk by CA Idzumo at 2,000 yards
xAPc ROC Hwang He 21 sunk by CA Idzumo at 2,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

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ASW attack near San Fernando [Lzn] at 79,74

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
SS S-36

SS S-36 is sighted by escort
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Matsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Shanghai [E Sea] at 92,55

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-17

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 6

SS Ghost Submarine 6 is located by SC CHa-17
Ghost Submarine 6 bottoming out ....
SC CHa-17 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-17 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-17 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-17 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-17 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Shanghai [E Sea] at 92,55

Japanese Ships
xAKL JMM Chosen 22, Torpedo hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 6

xAKL JMM Chosen 22 is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 6
SS Ghost Submarine 6 launches 6 torpedoes at xAKL JMM Chosen 22

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ASW attack near Christmas I [Line] at 174,141

Japanese Ships
SS I-75 [Later I-175]

Allied Ships
DMS Hopkins
DMS Elliot
DMS Long

SS I-75 [Later I-175] is sighted by escort
DMS Elliot fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS Long fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Taytay [Palawan] at 76,82

Japanese Ships
SS I-123

Allied Ships
AV Langley, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

AV Langley is sighted by SS I-123
SS I-123 launches 4 torpedoes

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Night Naval bombardment of Kuantan [Malaya] at 51,79

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
DD Sagiri
DM Shirayuki
DM Usugumo
DM Fubuki

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Light Indstry Plant hits 1
Resource Mine/Stn hits 1
Manpower Center hits 1
Fires 418
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1

CA Chokai firing at Kuantan [Malaya]
DD Sagiri firing at Kuantan [Malaya]
DM Shirayuki firing at Kuantan [Malaya]
DM Usugumo firing at Kuantan [Malaya]
DM Fubuki firing at Kuantan [Malaya]

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Amphibious Assault at Tarawa [Gilberts] (136,128)

TF 15 troops unloading over beach at Tarawa [Gilberts], 136,128

T93 13.2mm AAMG accidentally lost during unload of 51st Nav Gd /3
10 Support Section troops lost from landing craft during unload of 51st Nav Gd /3
10 Support Section troops accidentally lost during unload of 51st Nav Gd

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Invasion Support action off Kuantan [Malaya] (51,79)

17 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AK Hirokawa Maru
AK Tosan Maru

AK Hirokawa Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

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Invasion Support action off Kuantan [Malaya] (51,79)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AK Hirokawa Maru
AK Tosan Maru

AK Hirokawa Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Submarine attack near Palembang [Sumatra] at 49,90

Japanese Ships
SS I-52 [Later I-152]

Allied Ships
TK NEI Semiramis, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

TK NEI Semiramis is sighted by SS I-52 [Later I-152]
SS I-52 [Later I-152] launches 6 torpedoes at TK NEI Semiramis

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Submarine attack near Iriribon [Etorofu] at 126,53

Japanese Ships
AO Naruto, Torpedo hits 3

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 2

AO Naruto is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 2
SS Ghost Submarine 2 launches 6 torpedoes

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balabac I [W Is] at 70,82, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Raizan Maru, Shell hits 46, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD RN Scout
DD RN Thanet
DD RN Thracian

Japanese ground losses:
3046 casualties reported
Squads: 89 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 101 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
DD RN Thracian engages xAK Zyuyo Maru at 12,000 yards
DD RN Thracian engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
xAK Zyuyo Maru sunk by DD RN Scout at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD RN Thanet engages xAKL Hidaka Maru at 7,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Hidaka Maru at 7,000 yards
DD RN Thracian engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 7,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
xAKL Hidaka Maru sunk by DD RN Thracian at 5,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
DD RN Thanet engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
DD RN Thracian engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 3,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
DD RN Thracian engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
DD RN Thanet engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
DD RN Thanet engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD RN Thracian engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 2,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 2,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 2,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
DD RN Thracian engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
DD RN Thanet engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
DD RN Scout engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
DD RN Thracian engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
DD RN Thanet engages xAKL Raizan Maru at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
xAKL Raizan Maru sunk by DD RN Thracian at 3,000 yards
Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...

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ASW attack near Truk [Car Is] at 112,108

Japanese Ships
DD Oboro
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 9

SS Ghost Submarine 9 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Oboro
DD Oboro fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oboro fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oboro fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oboro fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oboro fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Palembang [Sumatra] at 49,90

Japanese Ships
SS I-52 [Later I-152]

Allied Ships
TK NEI Semiramis, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

TK NEI Semiramis is sighted by SS I-52 [Later I-152]
SS I-52 [Later I-152] launches 6 torpedoes

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Sub attack near Ise & Tsu [C Hon] at 109,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Ikoma Maru, Torpedo hits 3

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 7

xAK Ikoma Maru is sighted by SS Ghost Submarine 7
SS Ghost Submarine 7 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Ikoma Maru

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Submarine attack near Cagayan [Mindinao] at 79,89

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
xAKL PC Latouche, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage

xAKL PC Latouche is sighted by SS I-124
SS I-124 attacking xAKL PC Latouche on the surface
Massive explosion on xAKL PC Latouche
Massive explosion on xAKL PC Latouche

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Morning Air attack on Viet Tri [Tonkin] , at 68,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-27a/b Nate sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Wuchow [S China] at 76,57

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty TB x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiamg 6
xAPc ROC Ferry 25
xAPc ROC Ferry 26
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 7

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty TB bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Balenta Pass [Lzon] , at 80,75

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 16

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-27a/b Nate sweeping at 5000 feet
8 x Ki-27a/b Nate sweeping at 5000 feet

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Morning Air attack on PA 2nd/12th Inf Battalion, at 80,75 (Balenta Pass [Lzon])

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2m21 Zero x 53
G3M2/G3M2-K Nell TB x 66
G4M1 Betty TB x 67

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
67 x G4M1 Betty TB bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
66 x G3M2/G3M2-K Nell TB bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on USN Guam Base Force, at 106,95 (Guam [Marianas])

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete FDB x 8

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x F1M2 Pete FDB releasing from 1000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x F1M2 Pete FDB releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on USN Guam Base Force, at 106,95 (Guam [Marianas])

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete FDB x 8

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x F1M2 Pete FDB bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on USN Guam Base Force, at 106,95 (Guam [Marianas])

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake FR x 4

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x E13A1 Jake FR bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 2xJAAF Tp 1 Air DC, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on PA 2nd/12th Inf Battalion, at 80,75 (Balenta Pass [Lzon])

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally GP x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 4000 feet *
Ground Attack: 15 x 50 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 4000 feet *
Ground Attack: 15 x 50 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on IA 22nd Brigade, at 51,79 (Kuantan [Malaya])

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2m21 Zero x 7
Ki-21-IIa Sally GP x 95
Ki-48-Ib Lily GP x 51

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking CW 1st ISF Base Force ...
Also attacking IA 22nd Brigade ...

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Morning Air attack on PA 2nd/12th Inf Battalion, at 80,75 (Balenta Pass [Lzon])

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on PA 2nd/12th Inf Battalion, at 80,75 (Balenta Pass [Lzon])

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-27a/b Nate sweeping at 10000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sorong [DNG] , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
KNIL 139WH-3 x 3

No Allied losses

Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x KNIL 139WH-3 bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sorong [DNG] , at 82,107

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
KNIL B-339D Buffalo x 3

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x KNIL B-339D Buffalo strafing at 100 feet *

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kuantan [Malaya] at 51,79

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
RAF Vildebeest TB x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Hirokawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x RAF Vildebeest TB bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kuantan [Malaya] at 51,79

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
RAAF Hudson I x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Hirokawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x RAAF Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AK Hirokawa Maru

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Haichow [E Sea] at 94,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5M1 Mabel TB x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Ferry 15, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAPc ROC Dong Hai 3, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAPc ROC Dong Hai 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B5M1 Mabel TB bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

ROC Dong Hai 3 dead in the water ...
ROC Dong Hai 4 dead in the water ...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Wuchow [S China] at 76,57

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann GP x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiamg 6
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 3

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-30 Ann GP bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 77,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 1
Ki-48-Ib Lily GP x 3
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAP Nenette Moller, Bomb hits 17, and is sunk
xAPc ROC Hong Kong 27
xAPc ROC Lantau
xAKL ROC Long Hai II, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-27a/b Nate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
16 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Nenette Moller
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL ROC Long Hai II

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near T'ai-shan [S China] at 76,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL UK Yat Shing, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near T'ai-shan [S China] at 76,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida COOP x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL UK Yat Shing, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 5 (4 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-36 Ida COOP bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 30 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL UK Yat Shing

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 76,64

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida COOP x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL UK Kanchow

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-36 Ida COOP bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 30 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 77,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann GP x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily GP x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL ROC Barge Group 5
xAPc ROC Hong Kong 27
xAPc ROC Hong Kong 22
xAPc ROC Lu Se Long
xAPc ROC Hong Kong 11
xAPc ROC Hong Kong 13

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-30 Ann GP bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 77,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida COOP x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Hong Kong 7
xAPc ROC Hong Kong 8

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-36 Ida COOP bombing from 4000 feet
Naval Attack: 8 x 30 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Wuchow [S China] at 76,57

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27a/b Nate x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 11
xAPc ROC Zhu Jiang 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-27a/b Nate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hong Kong at 76,64

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51b Sonia GPDB x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL UK Kanchow, Bomb hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-51b Sonia GPDB releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 12 x 15 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL UK Kanchow

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ASW attack near Christmas I [Line] at 174,141

Japanese Ships
SS I-75 [Later I-175]

Allied Ships
DMS Hopkins
DMS Elliot
DMS Long

SS I-75 [Later I-175] is sighted by escort
I-75 [Later I-175] bottoming out ....
DMS Elliot fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS Long fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Long fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Long fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Long fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Long attacking submerged sub ....
DMS Long cannot establish contact with SS I-75 [Later I-175]
SS I-75 [Later I-175] eludes DMS Long by hugging bottom
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Christmas I [Line] at 174,141

Japanese Ships
SS I-75 [Later I-175]

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Torpedo hits 1
DMS Hopkins
DMS Elliot
DMS Long

SS I-75 [Later I-175] launches 4 torpedoes at CA Indianapolis
DMS Elliot fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS Long fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Long fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Long fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Shanghai [E Sea] at 92,55

Japanese Ships
PG Atada PG

Allied Ships
SS Ghost Submarine 6

SS Ghost Submarine 6 launches 6 torpedoes
Ghost Submarine 6 bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection

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Pre-Invasion action off Cagayan [Mindinao] (79,89)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kosho Maru
xAK Taifuku Maru
xAK Teiryu Maru
xAK Shinsei Maru
CM Itsukushima
CM Yaeyama

xAKL Kosho Maru firing at USAAF Cagayan Base Force
xAKL Kosho Maru fired at enemy troops
xAK Taifuku Maru fired at enemy troops
xAK Teiryu Maru fired at enemy troops
xAKL Kosho Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Cagayan [Mindinao] (79,89)

TF 335 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan [Mindinao], 79,89

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

16 troops of a SNLF LMG Section lost in surf during unload of Kure 2nd SNLF
16 troops of a SNLF LMG Section lost overboard during unload of Kure 2nd SNLF
16 troops of a SNLF LMG Section accidentally lost during unload of Kure 2nd SNLF
16 troops of a SNLF LMG Section lost overboard during unload of Kure 2nd SNLF
10 Support Section troops accidentally lost during unload of Kure 2nd SNLF
Type 89 Medium Tank lost in surf during unload of 8th Tank "Rgt" (-) Bn /2
Motizd Support Sect lost overboard during unload of 8th Tank "Rgt" (-) Bn
16 troops of a SNLF LMG Section lost in surf during unload of Kure 2nd SNLF

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Pre-Invasion action off Cagayan [Mindinao] (79,89)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Hakata Maru #2
PB Kure Maru #5
xAK Taihei Maru

PB Hakata Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
PB Kure Maru #5 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Cagayan [Mindinao] (79,89)

TF 336 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan [Mindinao], 79,89

4xType 94 Trucks lost from landing craft during unload of 44th Road Const Co /1
8 Engineer Squad lost in surf during unload of 44th Road Const Co /1
10 Support Section troops lost in surf during unload of 44th Road Const Co /1
Motizd Support Sect dropped into water during unload of 44th Road Const Co /1
8 Engineer Squad accidentally lost during unload of 44th Road Const Co /1
10 Support Section troops lost overboard during unload of III/66th Nav Gd

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Ground combat at Shou Hsien [E Chi] (88,49)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1828 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 47

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 47 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Shou Hsien [E Chi] !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+)

Assaulting units:
RGC 12th Ind "Bde" Regiment

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Ground combat at Kuantan [Malaya] (51,79)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4163 troops, 94 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 161

Defending force 2718 troops, 40 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 98

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 139

Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuantan [Malaya] !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
RAAF Hudson I: 1 destroyed
RAF Beaufort V RC: 1 destroyed
RAF Blenheim I GP: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1289 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 131 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 49 (49 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (37 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
42nd Infantry Regimental Combat Team

Defending units:
CW 1st ISF Base Force
IA 22nd Brigade
CW 3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment

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Ground combat at Tarawa [Gilberts] (136,128)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1615 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 110

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 110 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarawa [Gilberts] !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)

Assaulting units:
51st Naval Guard Unit

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Ground combat at Balenta Pass [Lzon] (80,75)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 973 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Defending force 387 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Japanese adjusted assault: 67

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 67 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Balenta Pass [Lzon] !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (4 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Raiding "Rgt" Bn /1
Yoko 3rd Airborn SNLF /1

Defending units:
PA 2nd/12th Inf Battalion

(in reply to el cid again)

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 10:41:22 PM

el cid again

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Achtung Leser. ElCid wird f�r eine qualifizierte Nippon Kommandant f�r seine anderen Test-Spiel suchen. Dont be shy und Zeitbedarf ist etwa 2/3 Umdrehungen pro Woche.

Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.

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THE RIVER FLEET - 3/26/2012 10:42:07 PM

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At Wuchow. they dont like chinese boats....

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 10:44:48 PM

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Poor Cynthia. She really had some fine lines...

Actually

Cynthia Olsen was the first ship sunk in the war
and a COMMERCIAL watercraft - not a yacht (which, I admit, there are in the game).
Note many of the Chinese vessels have names in Chinese (go figure, as I am a
China hand) - and a few are famous.

Cynthia Olsen had a GERMAN comodore as her captain, but he was a US citizen,
and he saved his entire crew - in spite of the burning loss of the ship. See
Advance Force Pearl Harbor if you want lots of details.

I note that in stock we have an "empty sea" - almost every vessel involved in early actions is
missing (like this one) or safely in a West Coast port - thousands of miles from harm. I have
tried to put in ships that will let you see names that really were involved in "the slaughter at
sea" of early days.

Only in this game, the slaughter seems to be going both ways! It is more like how I play than
most Allied players do. I believe in the offensive defensive rather than the run, bastion up and
wait to come back with overwhelming forces.

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RE: THE RIVER FLEET - 3/26/2012 10:47:13 PM

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three blind mice - 3/26/2012 10:59:14 PM

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balabac I [W Is] at 70,82, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Raizan Maru, Shell hits 46, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD RN Scout
DD RN Thanet
DD RN Thracian

Japanese ground losses:
3046 casualties reported
Squads: 89 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 101 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)

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RE: three blind mice - 3/26/2012 11:13:27 PM

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Another day of hell:
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Morning Air attack on IA 22nd Brigade, at 51,79 (Kuantan [Malaya])

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2m21 Zero x 7
Ki-21-IIa Sally GP x 95
Ki-48-Ib Lily GP x 51

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-48-Ib Lily GP bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 8 x 50 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally GP bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking CW 1st ISF Base Force ...
Also attacking IA 22nd Brigade ...

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 11:16:57 PM

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Achtung Leser. ElCid wird f�r eine qualifizierte Nippon Kommandant f�r seine anderen Test-Spiel suchen. Dont be shy und Zeitbedarf ist etwa 2/3 Umdrehungen pro Woche.

Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 11:27:15 PM

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Bad news

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/26/2012 11:49:35 PM

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Only in this game, the slaughter seems to be going both ways! It is more like how I play than
most Allied players do. I believe in the offensive defensive rather than the run, bastion up and
wait to come back with overwhelming forces.

Bluntly, an allied player has to become aware of the abilities and weakness of the allies and Japs to play forward. To do so and not understand the IJ strong points of the game will greatly increase allied casualties. Roughly I have been playing AE about two years and I give credit to FatR (my other game in nov43) for being a good mentor.

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/27/2012 12:07:26 AM

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Talk about hanging around

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/27/2012 12:47:50 AM

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Not much of a surprise.

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RE: three blind mice - 3/27/2012 3:35:30 AM

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3 blind mice:

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balabac I [W Is] at 70,82, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Raizan Maru, Shell hits 46, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD RN Scout
DD RN Thanet
DD RN Thracian

Japanese ground losses:
3046 casualties reported
Squads: 89 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 101 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)

I have always wondered how, when all the ships in a convoy are sunk, some of the guns and vehicles are merely "disabled". Perhaps they had balloon tires that let them float upside down until IJN barges with cranes could recover them??

Unrelated question from a realitive newbie: What does the "RHS" in the title stand for?

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/27/2012 12:32:43 PM

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Achtung Leser. ElCid wird f�r eine qualifizierte Nippon Kommandant f�r seine anderen Test-Spiel suchen. Dont be shy und Zeitbedarf ist etwa 2/3 Umdrehungen pro Woche.

Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.

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Sie verstehen Deutsch!

Auch wirklich, aber nix sagen

google translator ftw?

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RE: RHS 101 v 3 Test 4B: ambushed at Sorong! (Turn 4) - 3/28/2012 4:07:07 PM

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Achtung Leser. ElCid wird f�r eine qualifizierte Nippon Kommandant f�r seine anderen Test-Spiel suchen. Dont be shy und Zeitbedarf ist etwa 2/3 Umdrehungen pro Woche.

Oh, ich sehe wir haben Interesse von einem echten Deutschen bereit, AE Geschichte zu machen. Kommen Sie jetzt Historiker wissen wir, Sie wollen uns helfen.

FYI in RHS we have a number of German units - many from an unpublished mod by Mifune - otherwise imported from WITP RHS. These include die Erste Monsons submarines, raiders, tenders (one of which was sunk in this game already by a US submarine), and rather efficient transports (useful for moving "ores" - resources - from the mainland to Japan. A few units start on the map in Japan and Manchukuo. The rest appear in the SW map corner at a tiny island which is not developable - and should not be developed by either side nor captured by the Allies. This island - a dot location without art - is almost invisible and NOT a supply source nor a developed base in any sense. It is a point for Axis units to appear - period. But it is real! It is Amsterdam Island, a volano with no suitable place for a port or airfield - and the only attempt to do something there economically (raise cattle) failed.

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RE: three blind mice - 3/28/2012 4:17:22 PM

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3 blind mice:

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balabac I [W Is] at 70,82, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Raizan Maru, Shell hits 46, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD RN Scout
DD RN Thanet
DD RN Thracian

Japanese ground losses:
3046 casualties reported
Squads: 89 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 101 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)

I have always wondered how, when all the ships in a convoy are sunk, some of the guns and vehicles are merely "disabled". Perhaps they had balloon tires that let them float upside down until IJN barges with cranes could recover them??

Unrelated question from a realitive newbie: What does the "RHS" in the title stand for?

RHS stands for Real Historical Scenario.

It was inspired by RSH (Real Sub Hunter) and suggested by Joe Wilkerson - long ago - in WITP days. At that time we were working on CHS - on plane data - and when it was not ultimately included - the CHS coordinator suggested a separate mod. Joe came up with the name. It is not intended to imply other mods are not historical - is is just a name - which seemed more appropriate then as we were working on a similarly named mod.

RHS has no "author" in its credits - just "the RHS Team" - because it was the product of several people and many suggestions from the forums. For about three years lots of art was done by Cobra. For more years lots of data work was done by Mifune. I did a great deal of work on files you can not see - called pwhexe - which are the map from the point of view of the computer. Today in RHS we have seasonal pwhexe files - so there is more ice in winter - less in "monsoon" (= summer) - and this really matters in the North - while non paved (i.e. secondary roads) turn to mud in the monsoon in places like Burma. It is pwhexe that permits rivers to become navigable in RHS - and sometimes that is a seasonal thing. In upper Burma the Irrawaddy becomes useless - a counterintuitive thing - in the "wet" monsoon - too much flow down narrow gorges. In the North, rivers freeze over - and ships cannot sail - but some places get ice trails - or even ice roads. In Spring, "break up" of the ice prevents both sailing and ice roads from existing - while in Fall - only two months long - you get the best navigation - three rivers in Siberia and three in Canada open to the usable Arctic Ocean.

RHS for AE is in beta - not released - and among other things - needs a bit more art work. We are testing to find data problems - to be sure our technical changes actually work as intended. A newly written installer is in test.

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