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RE: How long for an AI? - 4/30/2012 7:06:11 PM   
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I guess count me as the person who will not buy without an AI. Only an AI has the patience to teach a complete noob the ins and outs.

I really thought this might be the game to finally get me into WiF, but without an AI I will have to stay away.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 4/30/2012 7:15:06 PM   
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I'm not very patient though.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 4/30/2012 11:56:02 PM   
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How much patience does it take to sit through 19 interactive tutorials vs. playing an AI that can't compete anyway in a game of this complexity?

Do you want to learn how to lose or how to win?

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RE: How long for an AI? - 4/30/2012 11:59:35 PM   
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I guess count me as the person who will not buy without an AI. Only an AI has the patience to teach a complete noob the ins and outs.

I really thought this might be the game to finally get me into WiF, but without an AI I will have to stay away.

mo reb



That's unfortunate, as I'm sure there are plenty of experienced players who would be happy to take a newb under their wing to help the available player pool grow. At least that's what I'm counting on!

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/2/2012 3:18:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

I guess count me as the person who will not buy without an AI. Only an AI has the patience to teach a complete noob the ins and outs.

I really thought this might be the game to finally get me into WiF, but without an AI I will have to stay away.

mo reb



That's unfortunate, as I'm sure there are plenty of experienced players who would be happy to take a newb under their wing to help the available player pool grow. At least that's what I'm counting on!



I just wish they could have gotten some kind of AI in before release though. I understand the complexity of trying to do so, but I'm just not sure that I would ever play against a human alone.

Are there still plans to eventually get an AI in the game?

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/2/2012 2:23:41 PM   
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My understanding is that an AI will be released later. Even so, if you ever get halfway good with the game an AI will probably not be much of a challenge. You'll want real opponents anyway.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/2/2012 6:09:23 PM   
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Is PBEM implemented in the game? I'm not familiar with the rules of the game, just curious if it will lend itself to PBEM easily, or if there would be too many handoffs... I can't imagine using the online version for such a monster game....

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/2/2012 6:19:47 PM   
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Is PBEM implemented in the game? I'm not familiar with the rules of the game, just curious if it will lend itself to PBEM easily, or if there would be too many handoffs... I can't imagine using the online version for such a monster game....

I just moved the PBEM thread to the top of the forum. You will find an answer to your question there. In fact, you will find many answers.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/2/2012 9:43:48 PM   
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I've been look at the development of this game for sometime but without a AI I won't be buying.

Oh and one of my favorite movie lines,

I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/3/2012 8:17:08 PM   
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Just a rumour, but I hear Matrix has recently beta tested software that checks poster's I.P. addresses, pseudonyms, usernames and all other possible identifiers to ensure that all those who claim they'll never buy without an AI will in fact be prevented from purchasing the game until the AI is released.

One more step toward total customer satisfaction!

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 1:19:36 AM   
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Just a rumour, but I hear Matrix has recently beta tested software that checks poster's I.P. addresses, pseudonyms, usernames and all other possible identifiers to ensure that all those who claim they'll never buy without an AI will in fact be prevented from purchasing the game until the AI is released.

One more step toward total customer satisfaction!


LOL, that would serve those brats right.

As for AI, play against warspite1. I mean, how much more artificial intelligence could you hope for.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 2:55:19 AM   
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Just a rumour, but I hear Matrix has recently beta tested software that checks poster's I.P. addresses, pseudonyms, usernames and all other possible identifiers to ensure that all those who claim they'll never buy without an AI will in fact be prevented from purchasing the game until the AI is released.

One more step toward total customer satisfaction!



Ouch!

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 8:06:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Just a rumour, but I hear Matrix has recently beta tested software that checks poster's I.P. addresses, pseudonyms, usernames and all other possible identifiers to ensure that all those who claim they'll never buy without an AI will in fact be prevented from purchasing the game until the AI is released.

One more step toward total customer satisfaction!


LOL, that would serve those brats right.

As for AI, play against warspite1. I mean, how much more artificial intelligence could you hope for.
Warspite1

Indeed so . As I have made clear in previous posts I absolutely love this game and cannot wait for its release .....but as to my ability to play a good game? As I have also made clear, my track record is er..not very good .

Orm and I have arranged to play as soon as its released - my money is on Orm

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 4:01:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Just a rumour, but I hear Matrix has recently beta tested software that checks poster's I.P. addresses, pseudonyms, usernames and all other possible identifiers to ensure that all those who claim they'll never buy without an AI will in fact be prevented from purchasing the game until the AI is released.

One more step toward total customer satisfaction!


LOL, that would serve those brats right.

As for AI, play against warspite1. I mean, how much more artificial intelligence could you hope for.
Warspite1

Indeed so . As I have made clear in previous posts I absolutely love this game and cannot wait for its release .....but as to my ability to play a good game? As I have also made clear, my track record is er..not very good .

Orm and I have arranged to play as soon as its released - my money is on Orm

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Warspite1

Indeed so . As I have made clear in previous posts I absolutely love this game and cannot wait for its release .....but as to my ability to play a good game? As I have also made clear, my track record is er..not very good .

Orm and I have arranged to play as soon as its released - my money is on Orm


I have owned WIF board game for ever. It matters not if MWIF has AI, it is a MUST own. Just like the dozens of monster board games I own, most never played once. I just have to have them.

My money is on Orm also, IF he can pull himself away from Super Bowl reruns.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 4:48:01 PM   
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I'll take those bets against Warspite.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 5:20:05 PM   
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I'll take those bets against Warspite.
Warspite1

Okay, so that's official; £10,000 says I will lose. Orm - I will accept Swedish Krona in payment

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 5:34:42 PM   
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I'll take those bets against Warspite.
Warspite1

Okay, so that's official; £10,000 says I will lose. Orm - I will accept Swedish Krona in payment

Indeed. I move first, I surrender. How do you prefer to pay?

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 6:10:23 PM   
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I'll take those bets against Warspite.
Warspite1

Okay, so that's official; £10,000 says I will lose. Orm - I will accept Swedish Krona in payment

Indeed. I move first, I surrender. How do you prefer to pay?


The only thing Orm is drooling over is watching our NHL hockey league playoffs and hoping some day Sweden might have a hockey team, a real one

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 7:19:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm

I'll take those bets against Warspite.
Warspite1

Okay, so that's official; £10,000 says I will lose. Orm - I will accept Swedish Krona in payment

Indeed. I move first, I surrender. How do you prefer to pay?
Warspite1






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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 11:08:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: Orm

I'll take those bets against Warspite.
Warspite1

Okay, so that's official; £10,000 says I will lose. Orm - I will accept Swedish Krona in payment

Indeed. I move first, I surrender. How do you prefer to pay?
Warspite1







Darn, I always wondered what you looked like. I sorta imagined this:






Instead you look eerily like Homer Simpson. Odd that.

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/5/2012 11:39:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: parusski

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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

I'll take those bets against Warspite.
Warspite1

Okay, so that's official; £10,000 says I will lose. Orm - I will accept Swedish Krona in payment

Indeed. I move first, I surrender. How do you prefer to pay?
Warspite1







Darn, I always wondered what you looked like. I sorta imagined this:






Instead you look eerily like Homer Simpson. Odd that.
Warspite1

Not bad guess Steiner. The picture of Homer was for comic effect. I do in fact look not too dissimilar to Daniel Craig - although my weapon is much bigger than his.

Note: the phrase "not too dissimilar" was used in its widest possible sense....

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RE: How long for an AI? - 5/6/2012 3:11:56 AM   
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Not bad guess Steiner. The picture of Homer was for comic effect. I do in fact look not too dissimilar to Daniel Craig - although my weapon is much bigger than his.

Note: the phrase "not too dissimilar" was used in its widest possible sense....


But not the shortest possible sense...

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RE: How long for an AI? - 6/3/2012 4:32:45 AM   
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Although an AI would be nice for me to have, I can wait a bit longer for it.
Heck, I've been lurking here for years ... what's a few more months.

Also, I am curious as to being able to play across my own LAN.
Specifically if I will need to buy 2 copies (actually make my son pay for his own copy)

I'm gonna search and read around a bit as I am sure that is answered here somewhere.

Side Note: Agreed, it is a "must buy"!

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