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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/11/2013 1:24:11 PM   
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It's a shame Webber isn't here in the forum. I wonder what he would say about his mate Vettel.
Here in Germany Vettel is the hero, he can't do anything wrong. And the incident with the overtaking Webber, well they just put it down as racing.
I suppose it will be the same as Schumacher and Hill, Hill was the culprite, Schuhmacher the victim.
In Schuhmacher's last races you saw how far he would go to hold his position. Very dangerous manuveres.
He was again the hero fighting for position, other drivers making the same "mistakes" would have been classified as reckless!!

Mat
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They are the same person in my book - brilliant , but deeply flawed. With Schumacher it wasn't just Hill, remember the incidents with Villeneuve and Alonso too?

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/11/2013 2:27:31 PM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/12/2013 1:09:31 AM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/12/2013 6:55:00 PM   
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Looking good for a great battle up front tomorrow! Go ALONSO!
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Well done to Alonso! Vettel 4th...shame

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/17/2013 8:17:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		So Honda are coming back to F1 with McLaren.

Excellent news!

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/18/2013 12:55:28 AM   
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So Honda are coming back to F1 with McLaren.

Excellent news!


Yeah....but....

Look at their brief history as a constructor recently. They pulled the plug because they couldn't win. Why couldn't they win you may ask? Engines IMO! Look at the success of Brawn the very next year Honda left! With a Mercedes engine they ruled 1/2 a season untouchable!

Naa...Honda don't have the stomach to hang in F1 if they don't win. And McLaren....they are quickly becoming the next Williams. All the great teams must fall .

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/18/2013 5:05:52 PM   
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So Honda are coming back to F1 with McLaren.

Excellent news!


Yeah....but....

Look at their brief history as a constructor recently. They pulled the plug because they couldn't win. Why couldn't they win you may ask? Engines IMO! Look at the success of Brawn the very next year Honda left! With a Mercedes engine they ruled 1/2 a season untouchable!

Naa...Honda don't have the stomach to hang in F1 if they don't win. And McLaren....they are quickly becoming the next Williams. All the great teams must fall .
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I think we will agree to disagree on that one

Honda simply joined a not inconsequential list of manufacturers in the modern age that tried to do it all and failed - but when they linked up with a specialist racing team, they did win, or were at least very successful i.e. winning Grand Prix.

Look at Honda's record with McLaren and Williams
Look at Renault's record with Williams
Look at Mercedes record with McLaren

On their own, the records are a little different (note the Renault F1 team that won in 2005 and 2006 were really the old Benetton team).

Honda need to enter F1 because of the new engine regulations. They are choosing to do so without making the same mistake that BMW, Toyota, Mercedes (currently) and Honda themselves have in recent years i.e. trying to do the whole thing.

I agree though that nothing is guaranteed, and McLaren need to get a grip to stop their current problems. Obviously being Honda's main partner means that they have made a big stride in that dept already - being second string to the Mercedes works team was ridiculous for a team of McLaren's elevated status.

We shall see....

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/20/2013 2:21:38 AM   
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50 years ago my father was an electrical engineer with Ford Motor Company. He got to go to Indy to work on the electricals of the 1963 Lotus Ford, the first of its kind. He passed away last month at 92. I was clearing his house and found the press kit for the car and the race. Neat stuff inside.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/20/2013 5:19:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd just like to point out that Brawn winning in 2009 had less to do with having a Mercedes engine and much more to do with the very successful exploitation of the double diffuser loophole. They built the car(Honda built just before they left) with this aerodynamic part at the core, all other teams had to play catchup and, by that time, it was too late. Also, if it was all about a Merc engine, why didn't McLaren do better in 2009?
You can have the most powerful engine on the grid but, without the grip provided by aerodynamics, it's not going to work to its full potential.
I'm glad to see Honda back as an engine supplier. That's where their real strength lies.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/20/2013 7:51:22 PM   
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I don't follow this thread but thought you guys might like this story.

50 years ago my father was an electrical engineer with Ford Motor Company. He got to go to Indy to work on the electricals of the 1963 Lotus Ford, the first of its kind. He passed away last month at 92. I was clearing his house and found the press kit for the car and the race. Neat stuff inside.
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Sorry for your loss. Cool story. So your father would have worked with the late and very, very great Jim Clark. He finished 2nd at the Brickyard that year.




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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/21/2013 2:47:01 AM   
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Dad may have gone to France for the Le Mans effort but a co worker spoke French and got the nod. His mother lived with them and never spoke English when I was around their house.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/22/2013 8:58:58 PM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/23/2013 8:56:24 PM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/23/2013 9:25:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Better Rosberg then the Bulls After a few laps their tires will fall off and someone...cough...ALONSO...will pass them out of the tunnel...well thats my race prediction anyways.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/23/2013 9:26:11 PM   
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Better Rosberg then the Bulls After a few laps their tires will fall off and someone...cough...ALONSO...will pass them out of the tunnel...well thats my race prediction anyways.
warspite1

So long as its not Vettel....hold on - I might have mentioned that before


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 5/23/2013 9:30:06 PM   
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Better Rosberg then the Bulls After a few laps their tires will fall off and someone...cough...ALONSO...will pass them out of the tunnel...well thats my race prediction anyways.
warspite1

So long as its not Vettel....hold on - I might have mentioned that before



I here ya on that!

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