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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/12/2013 3:51:10 PM   
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still reading the books from braudel (the mediterranean triology) - great stuff for holidays!

cheers! to everyone.
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/12/2013 4:00:54 PM   
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Catastrophe - I enjoyed this book. I liked the transition from diplomacy to the opening battles of the war.

Warspite1 - There does seem to be a big change in opinion of the British Army, in both world wars, from the books I read in my youth to today. I remember reading about the Normandy campaign after the landings, with some significant beating up of the British forces by the author. I don't remember the book just off hand.

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Its a real shame because I find Max Hastings to be an excellent story teller. To be clear I do not have a problem with any pointing out of the truth, its the way it is being presented. He finally said something positive about the British performance in the latter stages of the Battle of the Marne, but essentially it boils down to this:

German and, particularly the French fought like lions but their leaders were rubbish,
The British hardly fought at all, and when they did, they were incompetent at all levels.
The German and French fighting is largely at army / corps level, while the tales of the British are at division, regiment or even smaller level - hence the comment earlier about having time to trash the merits of one soldier's Victoria Cross...

Just bought Catastrophe.
He's a great writer. I've read both Armageddon and Nemesis (Japan 44-45) and both were excellent.
He was very critical of the Western Allies in general. His point being that they broke through the German front once after nearly a month in Normandy and then for the next 7 months the only breakthrough was by the Germans (the Bulge).
You don't want to know his opinion about the British in Nemesis, never mind the Australians.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/12/2013 6:20:18 PM   
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Catastrophe - I enjoyed this book. I liked the transition from diplomacy to the opening battles of the war.

Warspite1 - There does seem to be a big change in opinion of the British Army, in both world wars, from the books I read in my youth to today. I remember reading about the Normandy campaign after the landings, with some significant beating up of the British forces by the author. I don't remember the book just off hand.

Chuck
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Its a real shame because I find Max Hastings to be an excellent story teller. To be clear I do not have a problem with any pointing out of the truth, its the way it is being presented. He finally said something positive about the British performance in the latter stages of the Battle of the Marne, but essentially it boils down to this:

German and, particularly the French fought like lions but their leaders were rubbish,
The British hardly fought at all, and when they did, they were incompetent at all levels.
The German and French fighting is largely at army / corps level, while the tales of the British are at division, regiment or even smaller level - hence the comment earlier about having time to trash the merits of one soldier's Victoria Cross...

Just bought Catastrophe.
He's a great writer. I've read both Armageddon and Nemesis (Japan 44-45) and both were excellent.
He was very critical of the Western Allies in general. His point being that they broke through the German front once after nearly a month in Normandy and then for the next 7 months the only breakthrough was by the Germans (the Bulge).
You don't want to know his opinion about the British in Nemesis, never mind the Australians.


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I didn't have a big issue with his criticism of the Western Allies in Armegeddon - because he at least gave some valid mitigants as to why they took so long to win the war. Its the fact that more and more he appears to be overcompensating for something by making his observations one sided to the point it no longer seems he is trying to be objective - rather he just has an axe to grind....

Still a very readable author though.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2013 12:22:49 AM   
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I didn't have a big issue with his criticism of the Western Allies in Armegeddon - because he at least gave some valid mitigants as to why they took so long to win the war. Its the fact that more and more he appears to be overcompensating for something by making his observations one sided to the point it no longer seems he is trying to be objective - rather he just has an axe to grind....

Indeed, he does seem to have an axe to grind. And, considering he writes for the Daily Mail, it's all rather confusing about what the 'axe' is.
Still, he writes well, and as long as Max Hastings isn't the only author one reads, I can't recommend him enough!
Actually, a bit like William Shirar's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. That would appall modern liberals with its descriptions of Nazis but, by Golly, it's a great read all the same.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2013 2:51:22 AM   
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During the holiday vacation, I plan on revisiting Douglas Southall Freeman's classic "Lee's Lieutenants". I have all three volumes in my collection. These were published in the WWII years, and were read by many American generals during the war. Freeman has some detractors, but he convincingly shows that the decline in Confederate leadership, mainly due to attrition, was a primary cause in the South's loss in the ACW. I'm of the personal opinion that the CSA never had a chance, but the war could've been prolonged with the survival of Jackson, Stuart and several other Confederate combat leaders.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2013 4:57:36 PM   
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Still working my way through Bernard Cornwell's 'Sharpe' books and I am currently on Sharpe's Sword.

I am reading them in chronological order and so far the library has had to 'buy in' two of the books for me.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2013 6:28:44 PM   
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I didn't have a big issue with his criticism of the Western Allies in Armegeddon - because he at least gave some valid mitigants as to why they took so long to win the war. Its the fact that more and more he appears to be overcompensating for something by making his observations one sided to the point it no longer seems he is trying to be objective - rather he just has an axe to grind....

Indeed, he does seem to have an axe to grind. And, considering he writes for the Daily Mail, it's all rather confusing about what the 'axe' is.
Still, he writes well, and as long as Max Hastings isn't the only author one reads, I can't recommend him enough!
Actually, a bit like William Shirar's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. That would appall modern liberals with its descriptions of Nazis but, by Golly, it's a great read all the same.
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We seem to have similiar taste Saint Ruth


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/14/2013 12:07:10 AM   
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Got these two on order Well its almost Christmas...ish

Seaforth Publishing and Norman Friedman - great combination.







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Well that's a shame...

Amazon still having trouble with a date for the former and they have just advised me they are cancelling my order for the latter as they have given up trying to get it...


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/14/2013 7:34:08 PM   
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Just finnished reading Redcoat by Bernard Cornwell.

To bad that this is a stand alone novel since I really liked the setting in the American Revolutionary War.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/21/2013 10:23:04 AM   
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Hotschi, please let me know what you think once you have read it. My take on it is that Churchill was no different to the overwhelming majority
of his contemporaries - its the old problem of trying to judge people of yesteryear by the standards of today.



Finished Churchill's Empire and was very impressed by it. As I understood it, Winston adopted his views on race in his early years and clung to them - whatever they were- until his death. Whether he was "similar" or "worse" in this than his contemporaries; who am I to judge? He was a "children of his time". Many views and convictions acceptable back then are unacceptable today - and vice versa. I learned a lot about him - and as always, checking the notes, I ordered some more interesting books.

Started Churchill and Australia by Graham Freudenberg last night.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/23/2013 10:56:32 PM   
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The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco

I love this book.


Didn't expect to like this one when it was passed on to me but enjoyed reading it.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/24/2013 10:40:32 AM   
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A Confederacy of Dunces (John Kennedy Toole) with our friend Ignatius J. Reilly

This is the second time I read this hilarious book. Only published after the death -suicide- of the author: the book had been refused. Goes to show there are plenty of clowns.




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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/25/2013 2:04:07 PM   
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Re-re-re-reading the Flashman series by the late great George MacDonald Fraser. Probably my all-time favorite series.


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Just finnished reading Redcoat by Bernard Cornwell.

To bad that this is a stand alone novel since I really liked the setting in the American Revolutionary War.


Take a look at The Fort, another of his books set in the Revolution. Haven't read it myself but I've read virtually everything else he's written. Great writer.

Here: http://www.amazon.com/Fort-Novel-Revolutionary-War/dp/B008SLBCL4

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/25/2013 3:23:08 PM   
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Reading a Stephen Attebrook mystery by Jason Vail. Set in England in the time of Henry the 3rd. I enjoy reading these types of books.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/26/2013 2:29:44 PM   
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The Last Dogfight by Martin Caidin

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/29/2013 6:57:04 PM   
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Divide and Rule. The Partition of Africa, 1880-1914 by Henk Wesseling.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/29/2013 10:31:25 PM   
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This title sounds very interesting, Orm. Please let me know what you think about it.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/3/2014 7:29:42 PM   
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I saw, quite on the off chance, that there is a book by Geirr H Haarr called The Gathering Storm (The Naval War in Northern Europe Sept 30 to April 40).

Having bought, read and loved this author's work on the naval war during the Norwegian Campaign - The German Invasion of Norway and Battle For Norway - I thought I would take a chance and buy it. It arrived today and from a quick glance through I have to say this looks like its going to be another very good read
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About a quarter of the way in and yes - despite a couple of annoying errors - I am finding this difficult to put down. I hope this guy writes more books!!


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/3/2014 11:49:38 PM   
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Besieged the Epic Battle for Cholm by J D Marks. Finally got my Xmas pressie from my Mum and Dad!! His books are so expensive..however Island of Fire is prob the best book I've ever read be it fact or fiction. Currently reading his book on Into Oblivion Pioneer Battalion 305 book I got as a gift from the author himself! Now I have this one aswell..love it.

(My Mum and Dad bought me Cholm in the summer as it was on sale at near half price, they've had hold of it until now)

http://www.amazon.com/Besieged-Epic-Battle-For-Cholm/dp/0975107690

Also see his books as an investment..he hasn't really the resources to do reprints and on going by his first book The leaping Horsemen they double or even triple in price.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/5/2014 9:49:41 PM   
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Any recommendations for a good World War I history book?

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/6/2014 7:29:15 PM   
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Any recommendations for a good World War I history book?
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If you want a general history of WWI then: The First World War, A Complete History - Martin Gilbert. This is a good introduction.

1914 Catastrophe - Max Hastings. This covers the war's first year. Very anti-British but a good read for the most part.

Castles of Steel - Robert K Massie. This is the dogs dangly bits of a book


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/6/2014 8:58:53 PM   
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WW1 book 'Guns of August' by Barbara Tuchman. All of her stuff is pretty good.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/6/2014 11:36:55 PM   
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Johnny Reb...life of the commom conferate soldier.  Not a bad read.  And as always the Bible.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/7/2014 1:57:48 AM   
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Sharpes Enema (sic) Yup Obidiah Hakeswill is back and he is a right PITA

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/7/2014 4:40:59 PM   
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If you want a general history of WWI then: The First World War, A Complete History - Martin Gilbert. This is a good introduction.

1914 Catastrophe - Max Hastings. This covers the war's first year. Very anti-British but a good read for the most part.

Castles of Steel - Robert K Massie. This is the dogs dangly bits of a book



Thank you.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/7/2014 9:55:23 PM   
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I'm Reading Max Hastings Catastrophe 1914 and The Wolf at the moment.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/10/2014 4:40:15 AM   
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I am reading Thunder at Twilight - Vienna 1913/1914 by Fredric Morton. While there are a couple of places I found myself reaching for the dictionary with the adjective choices, overall a very impressive immersion into a lost word of which I want to share this paragraph (opening of Chapter 12)

When thrust into a fresh expanse of future, the Viennese sought comfort in omens. They had a long established New Year's pastime. Into an ice bucket filled with cold champagne they would throw molten bits of lead, and then, with a pair of tongs, hold up each bit for interpretation. From the shape into which the lump congealed they would extract clues to thing to come. It was a game of fascinating ambiguities. Never had it been played more intensely than during the wee hours of that newest January first.

(note: January 1st, 1914)

A lot of social nuances, bits of gossip and the driving egos of major and mid-level players on this stage of histroy are all painted with a similar tone as the description above. Check it out.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/10/2014 3:35:30 PM   
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This custom, called Bleigiessen, is still around today.

Still haven't settled for a WW I book. I'll probably start with reading Sleepwalkers first, then go for books about the war. Max Hastings... I've read a couple books by him already. Let's see whether Catastrophe is as anti-British as warspite1 says. Remembering the other books I've read, Hastings likes to point fingers, sometimes justified, and more than sometimes unjustified. I just mention his views about the Australians in the Pacific War, Churchill's strategies and Montgomery. According to one review of Catastropheat Amazon, Hastings calls the assassination of Franz Ferdinand a "quirky little incident". Okay...

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/10/2014 9:22:52 PM   
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Thanks, that would be interesting to witness.

Amongst other issues, the book really delves into how poorly Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sophie were treated, in life and in their death by the Royal Family. Another term I did not know before this "morganastic wife" And it seemed according to this narrative that Franz Joseph was almost relieved that Franz Ferdinand was assassinated - to somehow clear the stain of his willfull disregard of the old order.

A lot of interesting details I had not come across before. The overall drift of the work is what a sad tragic twist of fate, Franz Ferdinand being the main voice of peace with Serbia and for reform of the old order was murdered and used by forces from both sides determined to create the carnage that was sure to come.

For those who do not know a lot about the year and a half of troubles leading up to the ultimatum Austria-Hungry sent to Serbia (and why it was crafted and sent like it was), I recommend this book.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/17/2014 8:42:37 PM   
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Managed to stumble across a copy of Third Axis Fourth Ally - all about the Romanian Armed Forces 1941-45. This looks goooooooood

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