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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/6/2013 5:47:34 PM   
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The Battlecruiser HMS Hood: An Illustrated Biography 1916-1941.
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Ball-bouncingly beautiful



You know, I'm forced to concede that she is a nice looking ship. Very sleek.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/6/2013 7:02:30 PM   
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Ah yes the beauty of the HMS Royal Oak in "action". Notice how her deck is in "camouflage mode" as she searches for enemy U-Booten on the sea floor-

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Remind me...what happened to U-47 and Gunther Prien?


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/6/2013 7:06:44 PM   
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Ah yes the beauty of the HMS Royal Oak in "action". Notice how her deck is in "camouflage mode" as she searches for enemy U-Booten on the sea floor-

warspite1

Remind me...what happened to U-47 and Gunther Prien?



And the rest of the German fleet........

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/6/2013 7:11:42 PM   
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Remind me...what happened to U-47 and Gunther Prien?


Their destruction / death were staged by the Illuminati acting on the orders of the Royal Society of Stonecutters and Free Masons. The U-boat was retrofitted with transdimensional gargleblaster technology and deployed in the Mediterranean, where it refounded the underwater city of Atlantis. Atlantean launch capabilities were then utilized to supply and build the Nazi bases on the dark side of the moon, as seen in the historical documentary "Iron Sky".

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/6/2013 7:14:34 PM   
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Remind me...what happened to U-47 and Gunther Prien?


Their destruction / death were staged by the Illuminati acting on the orders of the Royal Society of Stonecutters and Free Masons. The U-boat was retrofitted with transdimensional gargleblaster technology and deployed in the Mediterranean, where it refounded the underwater city of Atlantis. Atlantean launch capabilities were then utilized to supply and build the Nazi bases on the dark side of the moon, as seen in the historical documentary "Iron Sky".
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Well that's more plausible than the $%^& that I've been fed all these years about her being sunk off Ireland by HMS Wolverine with the loss of all hands. I think this Illuminati stuff is a real eye opener .


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/6/2013 8:12:59 PM   
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Meanwhile back at the Illuminati Arena, Silly Warspite1-Newblette digs & Ugly Chickenboy-Newblette deploys while I write the decoy location on the stone....DOOOM!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXldafIl5DQ


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/7/2013 12:45:12 AM   
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Ugh. I hate it when people butcher the endings of the classics. Clint Eastwood's "The man with no name" character doesn't write anything on the stone.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/7/2013 12:59:27 AM   
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Ugh. I hate it when people butcher the endings of the classics. Clint Eastwood's "The man with no name" character doesn't write anything on the stone.


(Silly Chickenboy-Newblette needs a diaper change. I know just the "Bro" for the job)-


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/7/2013 6:27:52 AM   
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Monitors of the Royal Navy. Should be an interesting little read.
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And it is...but why can't Pen and Sword Books actually proof read their stuff??

The misspellings are really irritating...




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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/7/2013 12:43:44 PM   
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Monitors of the Royal Navy. Should be an interesting little read.
warspite1

And it is...but why can't Pen and Sword Books actually proof read their stuff??

The misspellings are really irritating...



I love the Pen and Sword books, especially the ancient history ones.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/7/2013 12:46:05 PM   
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And it is...but why can't Pen and Sword Books actually proof read their stuff??

The misspellings are really irritating...

They interrupt your reading activity in order to annoy and generally disturb you.



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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/10/2013 9:20:11 PM   
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Obama 'hypocrite of century' video goes viral
'Unprecedented slobbering' over America's first family

A speech by an Irish lawmaker scorching Barack Obama as a “war criminal” and “hypocrite of the century” as well as lamenting the “unprecedented slobbering over the Obama family” has become a global sensation on YouTube, collecting well over a million views in just three weeks.

Clare Daly, an Independent in Parliament representing Dublin North, went on a no-holds-barred mission to flay Obama following the conclusion of the G8 summit last month in Northern Ireland.

“Is this person going for the hypocrite of the century award?” Daly asked of Obama. “Because we have to call things by their right names, and the reality is that by any serious examination, this man is a war criminal.”
She continued: “He has just announced his decision to supply arms to the Syrian opposition, including jihadists, which will fuel the destabilization of the region, continue to undermine secularism and set back conditions for women. President Obama is, in essence, stalling the Geneva peace talks by trying to broker enhanced leverage for the Syrian opposition by supplying it with arms and to hell with the thousands more Syrians who will lose their lives and the tens of thousands who will be displaced as the war continues.

“This is the man who has facilitated a 200 percent increase in the use of drones, which have killed thousands of people including hundreds of children.”

Daly held nothing back about media coverage, unloading “on the unprecedented slobbering over the Obama family to which the nation has been exposed in recent days.”

“It is difficult to decide which is worse, the outpourings of President Obama and his wife or the sycophantic fawning over them by the political establishment and sections of the media,” she explained.

“While we had separate and special news bulletins by the state broadcaster to tell us what Michelle Obama and her daughters had for lunch in Dublin, there was very little questioning of the fact that they were having lunch with ‘Mr. Tax Exile’ himself [a reference to U2 lead singer Bono]. The statement that Mrs. Obama was glad to be home was barely challenged even though ‘home’ is a country she has been in for less than one week and to which her husband has only tenuous links.”

Daly made it clear she was not being critical of the American people, but specifically just Obama.

“People in this country are very fond of our American brothers and sisters,” Daly said. “We stand far more shoulder to shoulder with them by making valid criticisms of their president who has broken his election promises rather than just pimping this nation as a tax haven for their corporations. I am sure the Americans would far prefer their multinationals to pay their taxes at home rather than offshore here so that they could develop their health care and would not be wasting money on arms being sent to slaughter people in other countries.”

Daly also flayed Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny, saying, “The taoiseach (prime minister) has turned a blind eye to [Obama's] activities. He spoke of the G8 summit being an opportunity to showcase Ireland. Is it not the case that he has showcased us a nation of pimps prostituting ourselves in return for a pat on the head? We were speculating this morning about whether the taoiseach would deck out the Cabinet in leprechaun hats decorated with stars and stripes to mark our abject humiliation.”

“I think your comments are disgraceful,” Kenny responded. “I think they do down the pride of Irish people all over the world who are more than happy to see this island being host to the G8.”

“It’s beneath you to say that the American president should not be a party to keeping that process alive and visible,” he added.



http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/obama-hypocrite-of-century-speech-goes-viral/

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/11/2013 2:49:17 PM   
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GOP Immigration Plan Devised by Communist Party


The U.S. Senate’s “Gang of Eight” immigration-reform plan, as well as a strikingly similar plan now being backed by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and a bi-partisan House “Gang,” both offer the “roadmap to citizenship” originally conceived and carefully developed by members of the Communist Party USA working within the Democratic Party and the radical left activist network for the purpose of using amnestied illegals to build a “permanent progressive majority.”

That is the inescapable conclusion readers will draw after reading the forthcoming book by acclaimed researcher and blogger Trevor Loudon, titled “The Enemies Within: Communists, Socialists and Progressives in the U.S. Congress.” Although not yet published, Loudon agreed to allow readers to preview one chapter, titled “Latino Immigrants: Tools to Ensure a ‘Governing Coalition’ for the Left.”

In the book, Loudon exhaustively documents the Left’s longtime agenda regarding illegal aliens and how its activists have gone about implementing it. He provides irrefutable proof that the entire immigration-reform movement was the brainchild of American communists and that their goal has long been to establish unchallengeable political supremacy.

According to Loudon, the Communist Party USA has influenced U.S. policy toward illegals since at least the 1960s. He traces the history, showing how communists and communist-founded organizations slowly built the movement from the ground up. While other groups certainly joined the effort, the communists were always at the center.

For example, he tells the story of CPUSA member Bert Corona, the “Communist Father of the ‘Immigrants Rights’ movement.” In 1964, Corona, Cesar Chavez and future Democratic Socialists of America member Dolores Huerta forced Congress to end the guest worker “Bracero” program. Later, Corona sought ways to address “problems confronting Mexicans in the United States who had no visas or citizenship documents” – in other words, illegal aliens – including “how to defend persons detained by immigration authorities and how to help immigrants acquire disability and unemployment insurance and welfare.”

Along the way, Corona founded and/or led numerous organizations, such as the Mexican American Political Association, or MAPA, Centro de Action Social Autonoma, or CASA, and La Hermandad Mexicana Nacional (the National Mexican Brotherhood), all influential in the “immigrant rights” movement. The Communist Party still has strong influence in MAPA, which acts as a king-maker for Democratic Party candidates in the Los Angeles area.

Antonio Villaraigosa, former Los Angeles mayor and 2012 chairman of the Democratic National Convention, got his start with CASA. He was also a former member of the Communist Venceremos Brigades and worked with the Brigades in Cuba. As mayor of Los Angeles, he was “the most pro-illegal immigrant mayor the city has ever seen.”

Lorenzo Torrez, a long-time organizer of the Arizona Communist Party, paved the way for Communist-backed Congressmen Ed Pastor and Raul Grijalva to win congressional seats in Arizona. He organized opposition to Southwestern states attempting to prevent illegal immigration and also helped change voting patterns across the entire region.

Loudon’s book identifies many influential communist and socialist politicians holding positions of influence in Congress and state and local governing bodies. For example, Rep. Judy Chu, D.-Calif., writes Loudon, has “a thirty-year history with the now defunct pro-China Communist Workers Party (CWP) and its surviving networks.” Chu is an advocate for “progressive” immigration reform and was a co-sponsor of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill introduced by Rep. Luis Gutierrez in 2010. In 2012, Chu served as co-chair of President Obama’s reelection campaign.

Today’s Communist Party USA cites the current amnesty effort as its top legislative priority. Its official position is virtually indistinguishable from that of the Democratic Party:

As Congress begins to draft legislation, immigrant rights groups and the labor movement including the AFL-CIO and its constituent organizations, SEIU, Change to Win, and many faith-based groups are mobilizing for comprehensive immigration reform with legalization, a path to citizenship and workers’ rights …

This legislative and political battle is also at the top of the agenda of the Communist Party USA and Young Communist League. Our program includes stopping deportations now as legislation is being adopted, and calling for legalization with a clear and speedy road map to citizenship for all 11 million. Future workers who come should have the same opportunity.

But it was left to Eliseo Medina to let the cat out of the bag. Medina, writes Loudon, “is both the country’s most influential ‘immigration reform’ activist and a Marxist. He is an Honorary Chair of Democratic Socialists of America”:

Medina learned voting strategies from Fred Ross, a Saul Alinsky-trained activist and the brains behind Cesar Chavez. Ross was to eventually have an impact on the national stage. Fred Ross conceived the voter outreach strategy that not only elected Communist Party affiliate Ed Roybal as Los Angeles’ first Latino Council member in 1949, but also laid the groundwork for the Obama campaign’s Latino voter outreach campaign in 2008 …

Medina worked hand in hand with UNITE HERE President John Wilhelm, to change AFL-CIO immigration policy at the 1999 Los Angeles Convention. Then, claiming U.S. immigration policy is “broken and needs to be fixed,” the AFL-CIO on February 16, 2000, called for a new amnesty for millions of undocumented workers and the repeal of the 1986 law that criminalized hiring them …

According to the SEIU website, Medina has played the leading role in uniting Change to Win and AFL-CIO behind the immigration reform movement …

In 2009, Medina said, “We reform the immigration laws, it puts 12 million people on the path to citizenship and eventually voters. Can you imagine if we have, even the same ratio, two out of three? If we have eight million new voters … We will be creating a governing coalition for the long term, not just for an election cycle …”

Republican support

But why would Republicans get behind such a plan? Some astute political observers advise that when politicians appear to be promoting agendas against their own interest, follow the money. As Center for Immigration Studies Executive Director Mark Krikorian put it, “It’s no surprise that the Republicans supporting this thing are the ones with ties to the Chamber of Commerce, not ordinary voters.”

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham and others have also stuffed the Senate bill with special perks for their backers – in Graham’s case, a provision granting more visas to workers for South Carolina’s meat industry. Rubio supposedly sought an amendment to assist Florida’s cruise-ship industry although he insists this is untrue.

But even if big business benefits, the cheap labor advantages are only temporary. Once illegal aliens are fully legalized, businesses will be required to provide just as much in pay and benefits as they pay American workers. In the meantime, however, it is widely assumed those workers will take jobs from American citizens, depress wages and increase unemployment. Moreover, in many key swing states, projected amnesties will swamp the rolls of the unemployed (see table).

Proposed Senate legislation delays full citizenship for 13 years, but if a bill passes, follow-on legislation is expected to accelerate that timeframe.

However, it is not even necessary for illegal aliens to achieve citizenship to significantly impact the vote in key districts. As a recent report for Capital Research Center detailed, Democrats are already employing illegals to boost get-out-the-vote efforts among Hispanics and won a major victory in a local Arizona election in 2011. They hope this strategy will win them key swing states, especially Texas, whose electoral votes will, many calculate, provide guaranteed Democratic presidents for the foreseeable future.

House Speaker John Boehner, R.-Ohio, has made much of his intention to ignore the Senate proposal and “do our own bill.” What the House has come up with, however, is considered by most to be “Rubio Lite.”

Boehner has enlisted former Republican VP candidate Ryan to promote the House plan. Ryan and the Republicans are working with some far-left House Democrats, including Rep. Luis Gutierrez, a former member of the Marxist-Leninist Puerto Rican Socialist Party, and Xavier Becerra, both members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and both longtime amnesty activists.

In an interview following Senate passage of the Gang of Eight bill, Fox News’ Sean Hannity pounded Ryan on the issue of border security:

HANNITY: So, my sources have been telling me, Congressman, that you guys are considering a five-year temporary legal status, and then [if] the border security measure is not met in five years, that that would be revoked.

RYAN: That’s right. That’s right.

HANNITY: I don’t believe that would ever happen.

RYAN: Well, look, they can’t get – what a person would want to have, is they would come out of the shadows, they get put on probation, they pay taxes, pay fines, learning English, learning civics. If they break the terms of their probation, they can be deported. And if the border is not secure by that time, if the verification system is not up and running, they can’t get – not only does that status go away, they can’t legal permanent residence …

So, illegal aliens would be granted legal status immediately, but five years down the road, if the fence still isn’t built and e-verify still isn’t being used, then their legal status would be revoked. Given that the Department of Homeland Security is already allegedly ignoring border security –with immigration and customs agents suing their own agency for failing to enforce the law – many voters place little confidence in political promises of future enforcement.

Boehner has announced a closed-door meeting with the entire Republican caucus, scheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday, July 10, to decide the immigration issue, a meeting Politico calls “the most important day for immigration reform.”

Although this meeting was originally requested by Rep. Steve King, R.-Iowa, to air grave concerns shared by many Republicans over this “reform,” it is unclear if this meeting was the House speaker’s answer to King or his own idea. In either case, many fear Boehner will use the meeting as a vehicle to impose the plan as though it were a done deal.

In the meantime, Senate and House opponents have been painstakingly highlighting what they consider to be glaring flaws in these proposals:

Every single border security provision in the Senate bill, including the hire of 20,000 Border Patrol agents, denying amnesty to criminals, building fences and installing surveillance devices, can be waived by the Homeland Security secretary.
Both the House and Senate proposals emphasize the path to citizenship – the centerpiece of communist efforts – while making border security both vague and secondary.

Both bills provide a $5,000 incentive for companies to hire the newly legalized illegal aliens instead of Americans, since the aliens would not be subject to the Obamacare coverage mandate.

Although politicians and the media have settled on the claim that there are 11 million illegal aliens, the actual number may well be closer to 20 million to 30 million. There were 10 million in 1996, a mere 10 years after Reagan’s amnesty, and it is doubtful only one million more have been added in the ensuing 17 years. Since 1990, Border agents have apprehended on average more than 1 million illegal aliens per year, almost all from Mexico.

When the Reagan amnesty became law, the intention was to naturalize only 1.2 million people, but the actual figure turned out to be 2.7 million. Statistics on illegal immigration have longed tended to be underestimated, sometimes vastly so.

Thus, current proposals provide a path to citizenship for as many as 20 to 30 million illegal aliens here now, plus relatives who will be brought in through chain migration and at least 75 percent of those who will come in the future – virtually endless amnesty – while efforts to secure the border are almost certain to be insufficient.

Representatives Steve King, R-Iowa; Louie Gohmert, R-Texas; Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif.; Trey Goudy, R-S.C.; Bob Goodlatte, R-Va.; and others – 70 House members in all – as well as senators Ted Cruz, R-Texas; Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.; Mike Lee, R-Utah and others have sought to highlight the dangers of this legislation, with Rep. King recently stating:

If the House passed border security and interior security and sent that over to the Senate, Harry Reid is not going to take that up. Chuck Schumer has said that citizenship has to be part of the deal. It’s not going to go to the president’s desk, so why would the House take up anything if there’s no prospect that we’re going to improve the immigration situation, just the prospect that they’re going to jam amnesty on us?

With polls showing more than two-thirds of Americans don’t believe “immigration laws would be enforced in the future if illegal aliens were given amnesty,” it is clear that passage of the current Republican-backed bill may indeed fulfill the agenda of its communist originators – the creation of a permanent Democrat voting majority, guaranteeing permanent control of the United States government by leftist progressives.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/11/2013 2:49:58 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/11/2013 4:06:41 PM   
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Tommy at Ypres (the man has a great sense of humour considering) and finishing off Eastern Inferno.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/144560213X/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eastern-Inferno-Journals-Panzerjager-1941-43/dp/1935149474/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1373555185&sr=1-1&keywords=eastern+inferno

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/17/2013 6:22:37 PM   
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Snowden is my hero!

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“I don’t want to live in a world where everything that I say, everything I do, everyone I talk to, every expression of creativity or love or friendship is recorded. And that’s not something I’m willing to support, it’s not something I’m willing to build and it’s not something I’m willing to live under.”—Edward Snowden



http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/16/the-zionist-regime-and-the-israeli-run-nsa-busted-again/
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The Zionist Regime and the Israeli-Run NSA Busted–Again!


Tuesday, July 16th, 2013 | Posted by Jonas E. Alexis



“I don’t want to live in a world where everything that I say, everything I do, everyone I talk to, every expression of creativity or love or friendship is recorded. And that’s not something I’m willing to support, it’s not something I’m willing to build and it’s not something I’m willing to live under.”—Edward Snowden


…by Jonas E. Alexis



Daniel Pipes

A few weeks ago, I pointed out that Jewish neocons such as Houla Romano Horing and Daniel Pipes want the United States to support both the Assad government and the Syrian rebels/terrorists/Jihadists. I said that Horing and Pipes want Assad and the rebels/terrorists to fight until they kill each other so that Israel won’t have to worry about them.

Based on their logic, I said, “If Assad is winning, we [the United States] should increase support for the rebels; if the rebels are winning, we should increase support for Assad!”[1] Guess what? The Obama administration is doing just that.

Here’s what the Washington Time has reported just a few days ago:

“The Obama administration’s decision to arm the Syrian rebels was made with the promise that U.S. weapons would not get into ‘the wrong hands.’ But reports show that nefarious forces in Syria, including both pro-Assad fighters and the Islamic extremists trying to oust him, have already obtained U.S. weapons…

“Under the pretext of ‘humanitarian intervention,’ the idea is to help a select number of ‘vetted’ rebel groups topple the brutal regime of Bashar al-Assad. But ‘U.S. and Western weapons have been reaching Iranian-backed Shiite militias fighting to keep Bashar Assad’s forces in power in Syria,’ USA Today reported this week…

“So in its quest to reduce the horrible violence in Syria, the Obama administration, with considerable Republican support, has so far aided pro-Assad militias and Islamic terrorist groups, both of whom have been accused of cruel human rights violations”[2]

The article concludes, “The U.S. has no business getting involved in a chaotic civil war in Syria. Claims of humanitarian intentions are not credible, given who has received U.S. weapons so far, and any substantial military intervention would only make things worse.”[3]

What the article did not point out was that this covert and Mephistophelian operation was largely mapped out by two Jewish neocons, Pipes and Horing. Once again, Bill Kristol was right when he said that Obama is “a born-again neocon.”[4]

This “born-again neocon” always ends up following the dictates of the Jewish neoconservative movement in the Middle East, despite the fact that Obama’s own lawyers have advised him time and again that aiding the Syrian rebels/terrorists is a violation of international law.[5]

Since the neoconservative regime would support any group that fits their Mephistophelian agenda, they always end up supporting terrorist groups as well. And it didn’t take long for people in the Middle East to figure out that Obama was onboard with those neocons.

Recently, protesters all over Egypt have cried out that Obama has been supporting terrorism,[6] which is true. The reason is simple: Obama, like Bush before him, is just a Zionist puppet.

Obama, like Bush before him, supports terrorism. He has been very good at covertly doing Zionism’s dirty work. After four and half years of working with the Obama administration in Washington, Israel’s ambassador Michael Oren declared that “Obama is a true friend…”[7]

Israelis Without Visas in the U.S.?

Currently, there is a heated discussion in Congress. “Legislation that would let Israelis visit the United States without visas but not demand full reciprocal treatment for all Americans wishing to travel to the Jewish state could put Congress and the Obama administration on a collision course in coming weeks.”[8]

Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Cuban-Jewish U.S. Representative for Florida’s 27th congressional district, “is hoping to get the House Foreign Affairs Committee’s approval before Congress’ August recess.”[9]

Are there serious consequences if this happens? The answer is yes. Let us quickly deal with some concrete evidence without going into a long preamble about 9/11.

After the 9/11 attack, the Washington Post reported that at least 60 Israelis were detained by the FBI, but none dared prosecute them, lest they be accused of anti-Semitism or conspiracy nuts.[10]

The Washington Post,[11] The Telegraph,[12] and other media outlets such as the widely read French newspaper Le Monde[13] began to ask simple questions: why many of those people were arrested? And why were they not prosecuted? No serious official was able to answer those questions fully.

By March 2002, it was estimated that the U.S. had arrested two hundred Israelis in espionage investigation, some of whom “had used cover stories to gain access to sensitive government buildings and the homes of American officials.” Others were disguised as art students.[14]

In 2003, the Sunday Herald stated that “Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001.”[15] Fox News reported the same thing in 2001.[16]

The Sunday Herald also claimed that “Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.”

The dancing Israelis

The men filming the attack were eventually caught with their van:

“In the car was $4700 in cash, a couple of foreign passports and a pair of box cutters – the concealed Stanley Knife-type blades used by the 19 hijackers who’d flown jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon just hours before. There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background.

“One image showed a hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan at a pop concert. The driver of the van then told the arresting officers: ‘We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.’ His name was Sivan Kurzberg. The other four passengers were Kurzberg’s brother Paul, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. The men were dragged off to prison and transferred out of the custody of the FBI’s Criminal Division and into the hands of their Foreign Counterintelligence Section – the bureau’s anti-espionage squad.

“A warrant was issued for a search of the Urban Moving premises in Weehawken in New Jersey. Boxes of papers and computers were removed. The FBI questioned the firm’s Israeli owner, Dominik Otto Suter, but when agents returned to re-interview him a few days later, he was gone. An employee of Urban Moving said his co-workers had laughed about the Manhattan attacks the day they happened. ‘I was in tears,’ the man said. ‘These guys were joking and that bothered me. These guys were like, Now America knows what we go through…’

“After the owner vanished, the offices of Urban Moving looked as if they’d been closed down in a big hurry. Mobile phones were littered about, the office phones were still connected and the property of at least a dozen clients were stacked up in the warehouse. The owner had cleared out his family home in New Jersey and returned to Israel…

“Paul Kurzberg refused to take a lie detector test for 10 weeks, but then failed it. His lawyer said he was reluctant to take the test as he had once worked for Israeli intelligence in another country.”

Their lawyer, Ram Horvitz, dismissed their actions as “stupid and ridiculous,” and Mark Regev of the Israeli embassy in Washington completely dismissed these allegations as “simply false.”

Stating that something is false without providing evidence, however, does not resolve the allegation:

“The respected New York Jewish newspaper, The Forward, reported in March 2002, however, that it had received a briefing on the case of the five Israelis from a US official who was regularly updated by law enforcement agencies. This is what he told The Forward: ‘The assessment was that Urban Moving Systems was a front for the Mossad and operatives employed by it.’ Back in Israel, several of the men discussed what happened on an Israeli talk show.

“One of them made this remarkable comment: ‘The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.’

“But how can you document an event unless you know it is going to happen?… The Fox News source refused to give details, saying: ‘Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.’

“Fox News is not noted for its condemnation of Israel; it’s a ruggedly patriotic news channel owned by Rupert Murdoch and was President Bush’s main cheerleader in the war on terror and the invasion of Iraq.’”[17]

Moving on to 2010, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz had an article entitled, “Leaked CIA Memo Cites U.S. Jews among Exports of Terrorism.”

According to John Farmer, a former senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission, the 9/11 Commission report is unreliable and many of the people who wrote the report were misled.[18]

According to Sylvain Cypel of Le Monde, there is no doubt that the Israelis—at least the Mossad—were aware of the 9/11 attack before it happened.[19] Even CNN came to similar conclusions. But CNN, reporting for the Israelis, declared that the attack would be carried out by Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda.[20]

The simple fact is that the Israelis never told us how they got the information. But the story gets even more interesting:

“Reportedly, two high-ranking agents from the Mossad come to Washington and warned the FBI and CIA that up to 200 terrorists have slipped into the US and are planning ‘a major assault on the United States… on a large scale target.’”[21]

Who were those 200 terrorists? Could we make the conjecture that those Mossad agents were subtly speaking about Israeli terrorists? A clue to the puzzle can be found in the incontrovertible fact that 200 hundred Israelis were in fact arrested after the attack.

This isn’t conspiracy theory, although the New York Times and other media outlets try to dismiss it as such.[22] Let me lay the cat right out of the bag just in case some neoconservative dinosaurs want to place me into the conspiracy bandwagon.[23]

I don’t admire conspiracy theories any more than the neoconservatives who propounded the hoax that Iraq had WMDs. I don’t admire conspiracy theorists any more than Jonathan S. Tobin or Thomas Sowell who keep telling us that Iran has consistently funded international terrorism without a shred of evidence.

In other words, I would place the neoconservative movement in the same category with conspiracy theories when it comes to Iran’s nuclear program.

I would hasten to opinionate that the neoconservative movement is worse than conspiracy theory in that the movement has political power over us and has continued to send us into an economic abyss.

In a nutshell, what we do know for certain about 9/11 is that more than one hundred Israelis were arrested. This is not controversial and that figure is a lot!

What every inquiring mind should ask again and again is this: why did those Israelis get off the hook that easily? What if they were Muslims? They more than likely would have been water-boarded or sent to Guantanamo for the rest of their natural lives.

The question now is pretty simple: Israel is not a friend of the United States. Why, then, would America allow Israelis in the United States without visas in 2013? Israel National News is already cheering that the U.S. will give a free ride soon.[24]

This shouldn’t even be an issue. What is even more pathetic is that the Israelis do not want to grant U.S. citizens the same privilege!

The United States continues to put her hands in the Israeli fire and still thinks that she is not going to burn. Israel has historically and covertly been an enemy of the United States,[25] and the United States should use cautions when dealing with such a crafty enemy. There is certainly no need to give that enemy $3 billion every year.

It is Either Zionism or Else…

Last year, Zbigniew Brzezinski put the issue into proper perspective when he said that the Obama administration “fumbled by getting outmaneuvered by the Israelis…Domestic politics interceded: The Israelis have a lot of influence with Congress, and in some cases they are able to buy influence.”[26]

Despite all of that, Max Boot of the neoconservative magazine Commentary has made the ridiculous point that the Obama administration should continue to send billions of dollars to Egypt.[27] Gabriel Scheinmann and Raphael Cohen of the National Interest have made the same argument.[28] (Those neocons propound those arguments because Egypt superficially has supported Israel’s genocidal policies for years, particularly during the Mubarak’s reign.) At the same time, “More than 50,000 New Yorkers slept in city homeless shelters and on the streets” at the end of June. “About 21,000 were children.”[29] Moreover, our precious generation continues to be “hobbled by the soaring cost of college.”[30] There is more:

“Due to sequestration, furloughs that affected a variety of civil service employees including behavioral and mental health providers began last week. The mental health directorate of Naval Hospital Camp Lejeune sees more than 1,500 patients between civil service employees, active duty service members and contract employees. Prior to the furloughs civil service employees accounted for 425 of those appointments. Now they will only be able to render 365.”[31]

At the same time, the U.S. continues to give her biggest nemesis, Israel, at least $3 billion a year. What does that tell us? It means that protecting Israel is much more important than taking care of America’s precious children and veterans. Moreover, Israel can do some of the most disgusting things in the Middle East with no threats from the West.

It has currently been reported that Israel is on the brink of sending Eritrean migrants back to their homes, even though that would amount to “a violation of their human rights because of the risk of persecution in their reclusive homeland…”[32]

It gets worse. The Israel National News reports:

“A series of explosion last week at a critical Syrian port was the result of airstrikes by Israeli warplanes, multiple U.S. officials told CNN on Friday.”[33] The Jerusalem Post admitted that the Israelis coordinated with the U.S. in the attack.[34]

How did Israeli officials respond? Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said, “We have set red lines in regards to our own interests, and we keep them. There is an attack here, an explosion there, various versions – in any event, in the Middle East it is usually we who are blamed for most.”[35] At the same time, our foreign potentate Benjamin Netanyahu keeps propounding the completely dumb idea that Iran is getting closer to a nuclear bomb. He said just last Sunday, “They haven’t yet reached it but they’re getting closer to it and they have to be stopped.” [36]

Mr. Potentate went on to say that “The Iranians have invested a lot in upgrading centrifuges and have the technological ability to replenish their stockpiles within a few weeks.”[37]

Whenever this man is about to open his mouth and talk about Iran’s nuclear program, you can be sure that a bold lie is coming. And whenever Mr. Potentate speaks, the U.S. has to follow suit. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz just recently came out with an article entitled, “Washington Promises Israel: More Pressure on Iran, Not Less.”[38]

Jonathan S. Tobin of Commentary has recently written that Washington has to pay attention to Mr. Potentate’s declaration about Iran.[39] The Pentagon has just recently declared that Iran will have the bomb by 2015.[40] This has been the categorical lie since the late 1970s and beyond.[41]

(I can speculate what will happen. The Zionist regime will provoke Iran in order to get the bomb, and once Iran does get the bomb, the Zionist regime will bomb Iran for getting the bomb. My message to the Iranian government is simply this: don’t ever listen to the Zionist madness. Don’t ever lower your standard for the Mephistophelian ideology that is weakening the West. Stand firm with truth and reasonable policies and one day all people will see that the Zionist emperor hath no clothes. Once that’s done, the regime will fall. The regime is indeed powerful, but be encouraged. The regime is like a house built on sand.)

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/17/2013 7:45:36 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/19/2013 4:13:58 PM   
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http://www.examiner.com/article/british-records-show-obama-was-born-kenya

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British records show Obama was born in Kenya in 1961


Records at the British National Archives (BNA) show that Barack Obama Sr. had a son born in Kenya in 1961 which is the same year in which the current U.S. president was born. BNA is an executive agency of the government of the United Kingdom and is an official archive containing 1,000 years of records and documents.

In April 2012, the BNA released files from Britain’s former colony of Kenya. Reporters found that the name of Barack Obama Sr. is among the names of Kenyans studying in the United States. A query of the archives using the search term “Obama” found that an unnamed son was born in Kenya in 1961.

The president's birthday is August 4, 1961. Additionally, subsequent investigations of his submitted birth certificate showing that he was born in Hawaii is alleged by forensic experts to be a crude forgery.

According to BNA records, British Protectorate of East Africa recorded Obama’s birth records before 1963 and sent returns of those events to Britain’s Public Records Office and the Kew branch of British National Archives.

In a disturbing turn of events, in 2009 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made an unexpected visit to the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, which oversees public records archives from colonial protectorates. Several months after Barack Obama was sworn in as president, Clinton arrived unannounced and spoke with the chief executive of the archives in early August of 2009.

In 2012, CIA director John Brennan was accused of scrubbing evidence on Obama's passport regarding the latter's travels outside of the United States in the 1980's. Those trips suggested that Obama may not have been a U.S. citizen during that period and likely used an Indonesian passport. In February, the Supreme Court declined to grant a hearing to a team of birthers who question Obama's eligibility to serve as president.

Hillary Clinton's unexpected visit is fueling speculations that she removed evidence which suggests that Barack Obama (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro) may not be eligible to occupy the White House as president. In 2005, the Russian government held then-U.S. senator Barack Obama in the airport and accused him of being a British spy. The embarrassing incident was never reported by media outlets in the United States.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2013 7:51:16 PM   
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rothschild-spied-as-the-fifth-man-1444440.html
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(Victor Rothschild, 1910-1980, the famous "Fifth Man" of the Cambridge Five Spy Ring)

Rothschild 'spied as the Fifth Man'


THE LATE Lord Rothschild, scientist, think-tank head, first- class cricketer, bomb-disposal expert and MI5 agent, was a super-spy for the Russians, according to a forthcoming book.

The Fifth Man, by the Australian author Roland Perry, claims to prove that Victor Rothschild stole 'all major UK/US weapons developments in the Second World War', including biological warfare, the atomic bomb and radar.

Specifically, he alleges that Rothschild, not Klaus Fuchs, or, as is generally believed, the civil servant John Cairncross, first alerted Stalin to Allied plans to build an atom bomb using plutonium 235.

Perry also claims that Rothschild, who died in 1990, was involved 'in so many aspects of spying that he seemed like a super-agent, sabotaging every Western intelligence initiative for 20 years after the war'.

The evidence offered is largely derived from three days of interviews in Moscow with seven retired KGB officers, some identified only by initials.

The most important was Yuri Ivanovitch Modin, controller of the Cambridge spies, and orchestrator of the Burgess/Maclean defection.

But speaking from Moscow late last week, an 'astonished' Modin denied Perry's version comprehensively. Yes, there had been interviews supposedly as the basis of a documentary film about former KGB officers. But no, he had never hinted, nor did he believe, that Rothschild was the fifth man, or any kind of Soviet agent.

'We knew Rothschild was close to (Guy) Burgess and (Anthony) Blunt (later unveiled as the 'fourth man' in the Burgess and Donald Maclean affair).

Because he was in MI5 they learned things from him. This doesn't make him the fifth man, and he wasn't,' he said.

One explanation may be confusion. Perry attributes to the brilliant Rothschild a number of espionage coups which Modin knows from archives and personal contact were the work of the unassuming Cairncross. Modin provides corroborating detail in his own book, My Five Cambridge Friends, to be published by Hodder/Headline on 27 October.

So grateful were the KGB for Cairncross's early atom secrets, gleaned while secretary to the wartime scientific chief, Lord Hankey, that the Soviet ambassador presented him with the Order of the Red Banner at a secret ceremony in London in 1944. The insignia, in a velvet- lined case, were then taken back to the embassy.

Even Perry does not suggest that 'Victor', as everyone called him, was offered any such dubious honour to add to the British mention in dispatches and US awards he received for dangerous war work. A man who had proved his courage racing cars and batting against the fast bowler Harold Larwood, he became the top expert on bomb disposal. He was also

responsible for the personal security of his friend Winston Churchill, testing, and sometimes tasting, the Prime Minister's gifts of exotic food and drink.

Rothschild survived the war and the Burgess/Maclean defection to become the acknowledged 'grand old man of espionage' consulted by successive governments. However, rumours based on his close association with Burgess, Maclean and Kim Philby, all of whom were habitues of his wartime house, surfaced again in the 1980s when he became embroiled in the Peter Wright Spycatcher affair.

In 1986 Rothschild wrote a public letter avowing his innocence, and soon after Mrs Thatcher issued a famously terse comment that 'we have no evidence he was ever a Soviet agent'.

As a clearance it was less than fulsome, but when he died in 1990 the Prime Minister attended his memorial.

A clue to her coolness emerged from the interviews of Kim Philby by the writer Phillip Knightley in Moscow. Philby believed that leaving MI5 in 1947, Rothschild had seized or copied all the six-by-four file- cards listing Soviet agents in Europe and elsewhere. These, Philby believed, were used by Mossad, the security service of the fledgling state of Israel, whose cause Rothschild's family had championed from the 19th century.

Mrs Thatcher may have taken the view that his conflict of loyalties was not between Whitehall and the Lubyanka, but his country of birth and his family's Zionist dreams. In his lifetime inquiries, let alone speculation about his exotic career as scientist and spymaster, were inhibited by his lawyer, the redoubtable Lord Goodman. But as William Armstrong of Sidgwick & Jackson, the book's publisher, said, 'dead men can't sue for libel'.

Rothschild's ghost and his surviving family may well wish that death did not inhibit libel actions, all the more so as 'Rothschild family members' are cited in the book describing his low spirits in the years before his death.

But their lawyers, Freshfields, said that in the circumstances their reaction would be 'a dignified silence'.



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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2013 8:10:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN


warspite1

You know I shouldn't ask but....

So these Illuminati twins.. what was the Illuminati's big plan with these two? Did the plan work? Presumably what you are saying is that they came to power thanks to the Illuminati.

So:

- How was this achieved? Was Lenin, Tolstoy and Roehm Illuminati too? What about Churchill and Mussolini?
- What was the plan? Were the Germans expected to lose? What about the Japanese? Presumably you are not saying that happened in WWII was as expected?
- Did the plan work as expected or did anything go wrong along the way?
- If things went wrong how did they get them back under control?


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2013 8:30:33 PM   
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Silly Warspite1-Newblette, I invite you to explore Henry Makows site and corroborate his findings with David Irving's epic works. You need to also read "Utopia" by Sir Thomas Moore, "Nova Atlantis" by Sir Francis Bacon and to also examine the work of all the authors posted here and the Documentary topic as well. I will address your proverbial questions as time goes by. Now as a special treat I will leave you with this amazing Lied,

UTOPIA- GOLDFRAPP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emavGdhqe5c&bpctr=1374436381

Propaganda Terms in the Media and what they mean- Noam Chomsky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmoXze-Higc



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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2013 8:38:22 PM   
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No. How about you give me a summary of what I have asked you? Calling me a silly newblette every time I say something is not hugely helpful is it?

You state these two men were puppets of the Illuminati - how so?

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2013 8:58:24 PM   
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No. How about you give me a summary of what I have asked you? Calling me a silly newblette every time I say something is not hugely helpful is it?

Now calm yourself Silly W1-Newblette, calm yourself. I dont mean any harm. Oh but its so easy to love folly in a child. Cant a guy do a little role playing as an Opah to his Kinder?? At least I didnt call you Eddie Baby did I sweetie?

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You state these two men were puppets of the Illuminati - how so?

Yes, at first they were. The goal of the Freemason Order of the Red Banner is to impose the Hegelian Dialectic upon the entire world to keep everyone at odds. Labor/Socialist/Communist parties in the West and the secret societies of the east were a loose confederation which was/is loosely supported by Roth Schild. Hitler and Stalin rebelled against their authority, hence Stalins purges and assassination of Trotsky and Hitlers rejection of Moscows assumption of leadership in the early 1920's and Ernst Röhm's execution in the Night of the Long knives. After the confession of Rakovsky in 1938, Stalin decided to make a truce with Roth Schild to counter the threat of Hitler and Mussolini. The Illuminati demand control of the worlds markets & finance but Hitler refused to allow Roth Schilds centralized bank to control it-
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2013 9:02:20 PM   
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You know I shouldn't ask but....

So these Illuminati twins.. what was the Illuminati's big plan with these two? Did the plan work? Presumably what you are saying is that they came to power thanks to the Illuminati.

So:

- How was this achieved? Was Lenin, Tolstoy and Roehm Illuminati too? What about Churchill and Mussolini?
- What was the plan? Were the Germans expected to lose? What about the Japanese? Presumably you are not saying that happened in WWII was as expected?
- Did the plan work as expected or did anything go wrong along the way?
- If things went wrong how did they get them back under control?

Addendum- Those are indeed beautiful questions and I will further elaborate when I return from fishing.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2013 9:16:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

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No. How about you give me a summary of what I have asked you? Calling me a silly newblette every time I say something is not hugely helpful is it?


The goal of the Freemason Order of the Red Banner is to impose the Hegelian Dialectic upon the entire world to keep everyone at odds.
warspite1

Right SLAAK. And that needs a secret order in order to make that happen?

When did you say the Illuminati started? 18th century? How on earth did the Romans and Celts and Huns and Franks and Britons and Greeks and Carthaginians and Spanish and Persians and Chinese and Moghuls and etc etc etc etc ever manage to make war on each other without the Illiminati stirring the pot?

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2013 11:09:37 PM   
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Probably the Illiminuti

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/22/2013 12:18:25 AM   
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Doing some research for my mod, got my nose in "A6M ZERO in action" #59 S/S and sure enough it had what I wanrted to know in it.

I like the in action series.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/22/2013 12:39:05 AM   
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If anyone is interested, two of the Stackpole books are currently free for Kindle. Apparently one or two books in the series is free each month according to z1812 over on the Battlefront forum. (credit for the find goes to him)

http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Eastern-Front-Experiences-ebook/dp/B00BZBJ91O/ref=sr_1_26?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1374274035&sr=1-26&keywords=stackpole+military

http://www.amazon.com/12th-SS-Division-Stackpole-ebook/dp/B00BZBJ8WY/ref=sr_1_37?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1374274165&sr=1-37&keywords=stackpole+military

If you are in the UK go to the amazon.uk site and find them through there.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/22/2013 4:55:37 AM   
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W1-Semi-Newblette,
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So these Illuminati twins.. what was the Illuminati's big plan with these two?

To start a world war that would kill millions of the politically incorrect.

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Did the plan work? Presumably what you are saying is that they came to power thanks to the Illuminati.

Yes. The plan to loot the Czars treasury and kill millions of Russians in their 1918 civil war worked. So did their plan to make their agents like Lenin & Trotsky the supreme leaders of Russia. Their creation of Utopian ideologies such as Communism and Socialism were designed to destroy democracy and Christianity. Fortunately that hasnt succeeded just yet. Hitlers rise was initially considered a Utopian movement and the Reds tried to lure him into a pact but he wouldnt go along with it so they decided to contain him and countered by compromising with Stalin.


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- How was this achieved?

By crashing the Wests financial systems in order to trigger chaos resulting in the rise of extremism & militarism which subsequently led another world war.

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Was Lenin, Tolstoy and Roehm Illuminati too? What about Churchill and Mussolini?

Lenin and Trotsky definitely, Tolstoy not at all, Roehm was not Illuminati as far as I can deduce but he did state he was going to depose Hitler and ally with Russia against the West but Hitler killed him before he could achieve that goal.

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- What was the plan?

To protect and develop the Soviet Union as their client state and make it the worlds #1 superpower with the Illuminati in control. This was to be achieved by weakening the Germans, Italians, Russian and other European powers by a world war but insuring that Britain and Russia survived.

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Were the Germans expected to lose? What about the Japanese?

Yes Germany was expected to lose even though the Illuminati initially underestimated Axis military potential. Their courtship of Roosevelt secured US support as their trump card. The Black Dragon Freemason secret society took control of Japans Military junta but rebelled against Roth Schild and Joined Hitlers Thule Freemason cult instead.

quote:

Presumably you are not saying that happened in WWII was as expected?

Partially yes but the addition of atomic weapons did alter the political landscape and was another hidden variable that the Illuminati also had to digest. They insured a significant degree of Western military tech fell into the hands of the Soviets.

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- Did the plan work as expected or did anything go wrong along the way?

The collapse of the Soviet Union was a setback but Globalism is still their plan with control of the worlds financial systems and regulation of gold & oil also under their control. They use the UN as their puppet and they want ultimate control placed under its authority.

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- If things went wrong how did they get them back under control?

The CFR, Trilateral Commission, Tavistock Institute and Bilderberg meetings were formulated as the Illuminati think tanks to calculate events and find solutions to further their agenda. According to Aaron Russo, Rockefeller stated that one of the CFR's goals is to implant microchips into the entire world and that operation is already in motion. This will force all financial transactions to take place via the worldwide web under their complete authority.

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Germany's unforgivable crime before the Second World War was her attempt to extricate her economy from the world's trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit.
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/22/2013 8:19:45 PM   
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Just one thing SLAAK.

So you invest all this time, all this money, all this effort, into getting the Czar overthrown. No mean feat, after all, there had been plenty of goes before. BUT this time, with Lenin and Trotsky in hand, the Illuminati succeeded.

Now. Wouldn't you think, that when this upstart Stalin came along, and threatened the men the Illuminati had spent years and millions on - the Illuminati's own "agents" - that they would have got a tad concerned?

But no. They allowed their plan to potentially go down the toilet by allowing Stalin free reign, even though he wasn't one of theirs and at that stage no one knew what he would or wouldn't do.

Strange....

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