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Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/6/2012 12:49:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Does the Ai just mull about once it's scripted portions are done, or does it put up a reasonable fight when put on the defensive?

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RE: Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/6/2012 1:47:37 AM   
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Does the Ai just mull about once it's scripted portions are done, or does it put up a reasonable fight when put on the defensive?


It can depend a great deal on what you've done up to that point. In one game I played against the Japanese AI using the Fortress Java strategy the AI lost a great deal of tonnage in botched landing attempts. By 1943 it was putting lots of troops into areas not the least bit threatened, and completely abandoning others. This with a lot of meandering and pointless surface ship activity which got wiped out from the air. I couldn't make much sense of it.

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RE: Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/7/2012 4:06:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah I found it kind of goes to sleep mid '43.
Then again, most of it's major surface vessels have been resting on the bottom since then. 

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RE: Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/7/2012 3:10:59 PM   
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Does the Ai just mull about once it's scripted portions are done, or does it put up a reasonable fight when put on the defensive?



The AI does a fair job for about 8 months as the Japanese..., which is almost 350 turns. Then it's only fun for the "Puppy Kickers". But don't blame Andy until you can name three other wargames where the AI plays even 250 turns competently.

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RE: Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/7/2012 3:16:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		How about switching the question. How does the AI do as Allied from 43-45?

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RE: Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/7/2012 7:09:26 PM   
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How about switching the question. How does the AI do as Allied from 43-45?


From what I have heard, poorly. The AI seems to have problems assembling the large groups of TFs necessary for effective amphibious assaults against well defended bases.

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RE: Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/7/2012 11:44:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Instead of scripting, it'd be nice if the AI generated some "if-then" strings. Could make things more interesting for the human-vs-AI player.

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RE: Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/8/2012 12:03:03 AM   
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Does the Ai just mull about once it's scripted portions are done, or does it put up a reasonable fight when put on the defensive?


Yes. (Pick 'em.)

The Japanese AI has scripted objectives and some trigger events which give a good game in the first year or more. This is about all you need. Many players don't realize that most of the "AI" is in the exec file, not the scripts. On defense most of what the Allied human player will see are .exe moves. The AI stops trying to expand and seeks to defend and resupply: build forts, run ASW, move cargo home, CAP and sweep. These are all .exe functions. The Allied player has to bring to war to the AI after early mid-game, and the AI defends pretty well. It won't do any gambits or broad sweeps to encircle or anything (although there are lots of naval raids and other goodies Andy built in), but it will stand and fight and it does well with low supply and its LCUs keep morale. To some extent the Allied player is playing the clock, trying to get to an auto-vic before the historical date. If you want a Japanese player to try to take India you need to find a human opponent, however.

Anyone who thinks 1943-46 are a cakewalk hasn't finished a GC yet.

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RE: Curious - what does the AI do in 43-45? - 3/8/2012 7:28:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lately I play the allies until my points score overcomes the Japanese points sometime in '43, record the date and start over trying to beat it. I find the early war challenging but late in game I think I need a human player. Maybe it's time to take the plunge.

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