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first turn airfield attacks - 3/3/2012 8:36:17 PM   
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I'm not getting fighter escorts to airfield attacks that are well within range of my fighter escort range. This is without any change to any of the setting and during the first attacks I mmake during turn 1.

So this is just crazy. Is this a bug or what
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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/4/2012 9:07:58 PM   
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Same thing here, using 1.06.04 and Don to Danube expansion. Have been away from the game for a year and decided to follow some of the old turn one guides from back in the day to refresh my memory, but I can't get any fighters to show up when I shift-right click on an airbase in bomb airfield mode (F7).

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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/4/2012 9:42:52 PM   
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I just noticed I'm not getting any Ju-87 either, and just about everything I see is coming long range.

If I shift-right click on Kaunas (AG North AO) I get KG 54 Ju-88's (range 27), KG 55 He-111's (range 31), and KG 51 Ju-88's (range 37). All 3 groups are V Fliegerkorps/Luftlotte 4/AG South. Why none of the groups from AG North? If I shift-right click on Vilnius (6 hexes deeper from Kaunas), I get the option to include the Bf 109's of JG 54 with a range of 20. KG 1 has Ju-88's and is only range 11 from Kaunas and belongs to AG North. KG 1 is willing to bomb the airfield next to Proskurov at a range of 43 though.


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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/4/2012 11:05:12 PM   
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thinking the AI is handling the assignments differently then the original release. you'll need to pick the bases to launch attacks from to get anything close to good results.

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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/5/2012 12:01:20 AM   
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I have the same version and this is what is going on.

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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/5/2012 1:47:13 AM   
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Picking the staging base has become more important as I think there are more restrictions now regarding cooperation of aircraft from different commands then there were at release.

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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/5/2012 2:18:32 AM   
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I also noticed that with version 1.05.53 (Jan. 2012), in order to participate in a daylight airfield strike the aircraft must not have flown more than 1/3 of it's available miles. This will reduce the number of sorties per aircraft. Should not be affecting what we are seeing above though since I haven't ordered any strikes yet.

I think the days of the German achieving 4000+ destroyed Soviet aircraft on turn 1 are over....

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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/5/2012 3:40:55 AM   
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so we can now pick the staging base and how do we do this.

Thanks

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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/5/2012 4:17:22 AM   
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While in F7 mode, you have to left click on a friendly airfield unit and then shift-right click on the target.

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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/5/2012 10:30:06 PM   
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Echoing this - I see AARs that talk about 5000+ bombing on the first turn. I got to about 3000 so I'm curious if someone could describe in a little more detail how they did it ... or confirm that current releases make this impractical.

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RE: first turn airfield attacks - 3/5/2012 11:56:13 PM   
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I really don't think you'll be getting any 5k any more with the changes.

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