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What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/1/2012 9:04:53 PM   
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My understanding is that these are air defence bases and I stuff them with my latest fighters. But I find again and again that when the enemy are flying, my interceptors are not and after a week of heavy raids, often unescorted, most of my fighter units are a 0 fatigue and full strength not having flown. Leadership doesn't seem to be the issue, Air 4 or 6 gives similar results, supplies, fuel and support seem ok. Any ideas?

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/1/2012 9:38:45 PM   
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Status: online 		The one I keep in Leningrad is flying for me. I have it under Novikov's command, maybe that helps.

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/1/2012 11:21:23 PM   
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My understanding is that these are air defence bases and I stuff them with my latest fighters. But I find again and again that when the enemy are flying, my interceptors are not and after a week of heavy raids, often unescorted, most of my fighter units are a 0 fatigue and full strength not having flown. Leadership doesn't seem to be the issue, Air 4 or 6 gives similar results, supplies, fuel and support seem ok. Any ideas?


Are you looking for them to fly missions outside their hex? I had understood that they were intended to fly CAP over their base/city.

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/2/2012 12:53:31 AM   
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The one I keep in Leningrad is flying for me. I have it under Novikov's command, maybe that helps.

I disband all the others.



Golovanov has just come available so I'll try him. I had the entire Leningrad IAK in the woods by Sviritsa, flying under Danilov. He's not bad apart from 3 initiative. He stood the lot down as hundreds of unescorted bombers were knocking out the last port supplying Leningrad. Just had a similar experience outside Moscow but Golovanov has some serious stats so let's see.

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Why would you think an IAK base would only protect its own hex? Is it in the rules? That wouldn't have been much use at Sviritsa as planes don't fly from a swamp.

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/2/2012 7:09:50 AM   
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I had the entire Leningrad IAK in the woods by Sviritsa, flying under Danilov.

@ Ridgeway

Why would you think an IAK base would only protect its own hex? Is it in the rules? That wouldn't have been much use at Sviritsa as planes don't fly from a swamp.


What kind of woods? Planes can only operate from light woods.


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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/2/2012 9:03:43 AM   
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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/2/2012 6:48:25 PM   
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The one I keep in Leningrad is flying for me. I have it under Novikov's command, maybe that helps.

I disband all the others.



Golovanov has just come available so I'll try him. I had the entire Leningrad IAK in the woods by Sviritsa, flying under Danilov. He's not bad apart from 3 initiative. He stood the lot down as hundreds of unescorted bombers were knocking out the last port supplying Leningrad. Just had a similar experience outside Moscow but Golovanov has some serious stats so let's see.

@ Ridgeway

Why would you think an IAK base would only protect its own hex? Is it in the rules? That wouldn't have been much use at Sviritsa as planes don't fly from a swamp.


I forget if I saw it in the rules, one of the threads or in my fevered imagination....

I may have to run a test to see if they do fly when you attack their hex. Also, I wonder if the type of attack mission matters. For example, they would be more likely to intercept a city bombing mission than a ground support mission.

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/2/2012 8:29:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

The one I keep in Leningrad is flying for me. I have it under Novikov's command, maybe that helps.

I disband all the others.



Golovanov has just come available so I'll try him. I had the entire Leningrad IAK in the woods by Sviritsa, flying under Danilov. He's not bad apart from 3 initiative. He stood the lot down as hundreds of unescorted bombers were knocking out the last port supplying Leningrad. Just had a similar experience outside Moscow but Golovanov has some serious stats so let's see.

@ Ridgeway

Why would you think an IAK base would only protect its own hex? Is it in the rules? That wouldn't have been much use at Sviritsa as planes don't fly from a swamp.


I forget if I saw it in the rules, one of the threads or in my fevered imagination....

I may have to run a test to see if they do fly when you attack their hex. Also, I wonder if the type of attack mission matters. For example, they would be more likely to intercept a city bombing mission than a ground support mission.

Yes, and given that many of the raids targetting nearby or adjacent hexes were unescorted, I'm wondering if the intercept level has any bearing. This, IIRC, is based on a ratio of fighters the AI will attempt to scramble. Recently I've been set to between 120 and 150. Also should get my PBEM back soon and see if new leader makes diffference.

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/4/2012 2:41:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I find that there's some considerable confusion in the combat display.

My IAK fighters are listed as intercepting enemy recce flights. Their intervention in the ground battle, however, is credited to Moscow Air Command, the HHQ. I know the planes are IAK though, because bases directly attached to MAC don't have MiGs. As for the continued lack of intercepts on unescorted bombers, it could be that these fighters are not coded to intercept ground attacks. On the other hand, perhaps these are night bombing raids, but there is nothing I can see in the F11 or CR to identify them as such.

Are night missions noted anywhere?

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/5/2012 9:53:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do any combat reports indicate whether an enemy attack is made in the day or night?

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/5/2012 5:00:47 PM   
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Do any combat reports indicate whether an enemy attack is made in the day or night?

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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/5/2012 5:12:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, that's quite an omision and probably quite simple to fix? A defence wouldn't have to guess, you wouldn't have thought, whether or not the bombs raining on them fell during the day or night. They'd sort of know?



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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/5/2012 5:13:29 PM   
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RE: What Are IAK PVO Air Commands? - 3/5/2012 5:43:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		No doubt, but this will surely apply to every nationality in the system. If this is what's causing my interceptors not to fly, we have a new exploit (to me, anyway), and why not given the bizarre achievements of the Russian night witches. My cunning opponent is now dive bombing my HQs at night, it seems, with Stukas and Gos. The results are extraordinary. Night dive bombing by altimeter? That's brave!

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