From: Southern California
The poeple that have given me the most trouble fight before river (Hoooper 1.03, Kamil 1.04 and Flaviusx 1.05), the easyest run to rivers. The river crossing has to be held for 7 turns by russian player. If the German gets over before that, its trouble for the Red army until the blizzard hits. Saying you can't fight forward just is not true.
Your AGS advance is about normal over the river turn 6, again down here logistics is really not an issue until the 2nd turn over the river. D-town turn 4, Kharkov turn 6 and Stalino turn 7 is above average. Your enemy foolishly did not run over river and paid for it. I just dont see any kind of defence down here at all.
Pelton, your killing me here. I have been reading and listening to your advice to try and improve my game, since I consider you one of the top German players. So which is it - fight before the river or run to the river. I took your first advice and I am getting slaughtered in a PBEM game in the South because I fought before the river. And my opponent complimented me on my defensive lines but he believes in your second statement that fighting before the river just does not work (too close to German supply and extra German army from Grp 2), and after the thrashing I am getting, I think so too. It tough to to try and fight the supply system and fight forward as the Russian (maybe impossible).
By the way - not a personal attack - I'm just confused and want you to continue and post all your opinions. It is how I learn, that and getting smacked around a lot.
There's no contradiction here. The Soviet can delay some in the south. A pure runaway to the Dnepr makes things too easy for the Axis. It's especially important imo to throw up some kind of screen to slow down the infantry and force the German to clear lanes of advance with his mobile units -- and make them move north or south rather than east.
Mind you, this will only buy you a turn or two, but every little bit helps.
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