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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/21/2012 1:26:48 AM   
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February 27th, 1942

First try


Palembang fell today.

Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 22034 troops, 199 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 1043
Defending force 4080 troops, 49 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 161
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Palembang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
688 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1409 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 55 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 25 (21 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (16 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Assaulting units:
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
38th Division
18th Div /3

Defending units:
Zuid KNIL Battalion
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
1st Manchester Battalion
Palembang Base Force

The nice thing is… installations are undamaged! I am now bracing for bombardment attacks. All fighters in the area are on long range patrol. I probably cannot defeat all bombers, but I certainly can make it cost.

Elsewhere in Sumatra, we landed in Bengkalis and Tandjoengbalai. Both should fall tomorrow.

Over Java, the enemy is losing a lot of planes over my bases. Loss ratio was 4:9 on the 25th, 6:13 yesterday, and 6:22 today. This is good: all planes destroyed now will not be there when we begin moving on Java.

FOW says hi…

Two US Battleships (Nevada and Maryland) were reported sunk today. I have noticed the same in my previous game : around March, old PH stories seem to surface (if you can say that for a sunk vessel).

Overall, seven US BB are reported sunk. I don’t really believe it, but it looks good on the report.

So far, our FOW friend says we have sunk:
- Two carriers (both FOW)
- nine battleships (probably six for real)
- three cruisers (two real)
- nine light cruisers (six I believe)
- sixteen destroyers (twelve?)

I exchange, we have lost (and this is for real)
- three light carriers
- two light cruisers
- ten destroyers

We are ahead, but not by a large margin.

The air losses are a bit better. We claim 1300 enemy planes, for 975 ours. This 1.3:1 ratio was stable all over the month. My opponent is using his bombers a lot against my ships and installations, and pays a heavy cost to my CAP and escorts.



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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/21/2012 11:24:33 PM   
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February 28th 1942

In the air today


Now that enemy carriers have retired, that our remaining ships from mini KB are in port, and that both Loemadjang and Probolinggo have been captured, the southern tip of Java is being reinforced.

My tank regiments are marching on Banjoewangi. An infantry regiment landed in Probolinggo, where several supply convoys unloaded. The enemy is reinforcing Malang. I will probe that base, but unless it falls quickly, I will most probably turn it. There is no rush in southern Java.

My opponent tried to attack my convoys, and a surface force covering them, with his bombers from Surabaya. But the many sorties of the previous day, and my bombing of their airbase, seems to have cost them. Also, most fighter squadrons from Mini-KB made it to safety before their ships sank, and I now have quite a few fighters around.

As a result, it was a very bad day for the Allies…

Morning Air attack on Loemadjang , at 56,106
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 30
B-339D x 1

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-339D: 1 destroyed

Morning Air attack on 7th Tank Regiment, at 57,106 , near Loemadjang
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Allied aircraft
CW-22 Falcon x 6

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
CW-22 Falcon: 1 destroyed


Morning Air attack on TF, near Probolinggo at 56,105
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 9

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 4 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Afternoon Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G4M1 Betty x 9
Allied aircraft
B-339D x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 2 destroyed
139WH-3: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground

Afternoon Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104
Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 10
Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 4 damaged
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Probolinggo at 56,105
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 7

No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
A-24 Banshee: 1 destroyed by flak


At the end of the day, 34 enemy planes were reported lost, for four Japanese.


More news from China

Two fronts are active in China. Between Sian and Tienshui, we are chasing defeated enemy stacks. There were, as you might remember, four stacks of enemy units, corresponding to the former defenders of Yenan, of the Taiyuan-Sian railroad, of Loyang and of Sian.

The Yenan stack was eliminated last week. The Taiyuan stack retreated towards Kungchang, and is being pursued.

The Sian stack had retreated to Tienshui, and was pushed back towards Kungchang. We attacked them today with three tank regiments.

Ground combat at 82,38 (near Tienshui)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 8165 troops, 38 guns, 350 vehicles, Assault Value = 385
Defending force 5774 troops, 69 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2055 casualties reported
Squads: 41 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 227 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 22 (17 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 10

Next stop Kungchang, which seems very loosely held.

The Loyang stack, after a long siege on the secondary road east of Sian, managed to march south, and cut the road between Sian and Nanyang. Several IJA divisions, retiring to Nanyang (in order to redeploy around Chihkiang) attacked them today.

Ground combat at 84,43 (near Nanyang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 60618 troops, 529 guns, 216 vehicles, Assault Value = 2045
Defending force 23277 troops, 159 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 147

Japanese ground losses:
1100 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 62 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled

Allied ground losses:
7348 casualties reported
Squads: 259 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 551 destroyed, 105 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 68 (45 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Units retreated 20

We will meet them again on the road to Ankang…

Near Tuyun, two tank regiments attacked a chinese corps, with little success (but for no losses, such is the magic of armor against the KMT). In Chihkiang, an enemy corps tried to take the base, and found 800 AV behind forts on the other side of the river…

Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 4849 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 194
Defending force 25406 troops, 340 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 791
Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 1)

Allied ground losses:
6132 casualties reported
Squads: 214 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 72 destroyed, 101 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 42 (42 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Here is a map of the situation in China.





In the northwest, my first goal is to push the Chinese in the mountains around Lanchow. I don’t really intend to take Lanchow or Sining right now, but I want to prevent those units from retreating into Sichuan. South of Sian, two divisions and a lot of artillery are converging on Ankang. The main goal, in this area, is to cut the road to Kienko, and, if possible, further damage enemy units here. 800 AV will be left in Sian, as a reserve.

When all is done, I should have about 4000 AV here, ready to march on Kienko, or to move east towards Changsha.

But the war is now moving to Central China. I hold Changteh, Chihkiang, and the crossroads leading to Sichuan. My next objective is Tuyun, to prevent the evacuation of Changsha over the railroad, and then Kweiyang, to cut Chungking and Kunming from Southern China, and the Hunan basin.

At present, I have over 2000 AV in the area, which should allow me to hold the line (we have the good terrain and the fast roads). 2000 more are marching from Sian, and will arrive in about a month. I believe I should be ready to march on Chungking by mid-April, either from Ankang, or from Kweiyang.

Well, that’s the plan, anyway.




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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/22/2012 4:32:24 AM   
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It looks like you have Chiang Kai-Shek on the run.  Keep it up.  They have no supply, so they can't recover disabled squads.  Keep pushing.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/22/2012 10:57:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fcharton

@pax : with enough ifs, you could fit Tokyo into a bottle (as we say here, well, sort of…) Somehow, those surface force interceptions of carriers seem very difficult to pull out, not sure whether this is historical, or a game artifact.


We have similar expression here as well.

I agree, they are hard to pull off against the allies. One reason, I beleive, is simply that the allied CV's are so fast. The IJN SCTF's have little speed advantage unless you are very careful in picking your ships. Many IJN CL's and DD's are slower than the allied CV's.

Clearly, the opposite is not true. Allied SCTF's regularly intercept the KB and create havoc. But then with the Kaga, the KB is quite slow. Not sure this is really the answer here, but it does fit the observed results and does make some sense. Testing would be required to prove out.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/23/2012 8:06:19 PM   
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March first, 1942

A good beginning


(koto flourish) – The briefing room in the Evil Naval Force Subsidiary Headquarters in Macassar – A nice drawing of the coast of South Java on the wall, complete with pine trees, rolling waves, snowcapped peaks, and a bridge with kimonos and umbrellas, hangs from the wall, under the ENF Motto “just botch it” (I know, this motto is a bit ridiculous, but it is also in latin, and nobody noticed because nobody took latin in school).

General Kato, former head of planning in Saigon, now demoted and transferred to forwards operations after an unsuccessful night attack on Singapore (it had happened on a new moon, an auspicious day, but pilots somehow got confused by the lack of moon, and missed their targets by a few hundred nauticals), steel-rimmed glasses, evil looking moustache, boots and horsewhip under his arm (the boots under his arm make him look a bit silly, but he’s in command, so you’d better not notice), addresses ship captains on the eve of Operation Blunder (historians believe the actual name of this operation was Thunder, but that the beginning of the message ordering it got QRN, or whatever they call bad transmission in your favourite milspeak, and that none of the officers who understood English dared oppose an imperial order).

You might wonder, gaijin, why an incompetent general is sent to forward operation headquarters. In evil empires like ours, gallantry, élan, and such values that send free world leaders to die in mess uniform and white gloves in front of their troops, are frowned upon. In such societies, the better your CO likes you, the further removed from the front you are.

- Right, gentlemen, enemy carriers have retired, our beach head on Java is secure, our fighters dominate the skies, Operation Blunder, the bombing of Surabaya can now commence. I expect every man to do his best, to do his duty to the country, and the Queen, and to obey the Regulations of the Task Force. Yes, Wasabi?
- But General, we have an emperor, here, not a queen
- Figure of speech, Wasabi, figure of speech, any other question, gentlemen?
- Isn’t the port mined, sir?
- Please, Kendo! We had the area recced, can you imagine the ENF would send a battleship, several cruisers and destroyers, into an enemy minefield, just for the sake of shooting at a few patrol boats? Dismissed, gentlemen.
(Kato writes something on his pad, Kendo blemishes)



Need I elaborate, dear reader? For some unfathomable reason, sending BB Kongo, CA Mogami and Kumano, and assorted DD and DMS, looked like a good idea yesterday night. I had not drunk, which means, old age is probably the only excuse I can find for myself.

Anyway, we found the minefield, two destroyers and two DMS are lost, the rest is barely floating, and will disband in Pamekasan, in the hope enemy bombers won’t notice them before they can get back into enough shape to cross the Java sea, and then limp back to yard. We did sink 3 PT boats and an AMc in return, though…

Embarrassing as this might be, it has little consequences on the war. Operations on Java and Sumatra are not compromised, all three capital ships will most certainly survive (but need quite a while in yard). But I now have a good number of ships that need repairs. Two light carriers, three battleship and a dozen cruisers have severe damage. I will use the three next months to get my navy back into shape. I don’t really need those ships now, anyway.

While looking at ships in need of yard time, I also checked crew experience on most of my ships. If I remember correctly, the manual says something about shakedown cruises. Basically, sailing should increase a crew’s experience. This does not seem to be the case with my convoy ships : most of them have sailed since day one, and still have the same (abominable) experience. In fact, it seems the only way to get experience is to get shot at. In which case, “training” ship crews seems a bit useless…

Any experience on this?


Little else happened today. We damaged a Dutch submarine that came too close to my unloading cargoes in Probolinggo. Mataram, in the DEI, was captured. I now hold most of the islands between Java and Timor. On Sumatra, Praboemoelih (the base south of Palembang) fell to a river crossing by the 38th ID. Two divisions are now marching on Oosthaven. Paratroops have been ordered on Benkoelen.

And a montly review

February 1942 was a good month for Japan.

In China, we captured all the area between Sian and Tienshui. We are now closing on Ankang and Kungchang, and have cleared the northern roads between Paotow, Lanchow and Kiuchuan. We also broke through near Ichang, and captured Changteh and Chihkiang, cutting Changsha from Chungking.

In the Philippines, Mindanao, Cebu and Leyte were captured, and all small islands occupied. The Allies only hold Bataan and Iloilo.

In the Indies, the most important feature was the fall of Singapore, on the seventeenth of February. This allowed an early reinforcement of Burma (now under way) and the quick capture of Palembang. We now have more than three divisions on Sumatra, against very light enemy resistance. The Celebes, Flores, Bali, were occupied, we now have a strong beach head in South Java.

The main setback was the destruction of mini-KB by US carriers. The best I can hope is that the damage done will prevent further action.

As a result, VP ratio progressed from 1.3:1 to 2.1:1. We now hold 490 bases, 68 captured this month.
Plane losses are 1000:1350 (300:400 this month), LCU total losses 400:6600 (120:3200 this month)
We lost 300 planes for 400 enemies, and 120 LCU points, for 3200 Allied.

The economy is steady. The capture of Palembang (undamaged) brought a huge increase in Imperial oil and fuel stocks, and production. Over the month, resource stocks went up from 9.3 to 9.6 million tons, oil stocks from 4.47 to 4.59 million tons, fuel stocks from 7.27 to 7.40 million tons. Only supplies went slightly down from 5.05 to 5.01 million tons. Fuel stocks are now stable. At current usage, fuel and oil reserve would be sufficient to feed the economy for 15 months. In reality, they would last much longer.

We are saving about 7000 HI points every day, and have accumulated about 550 000 HI points so far. Armaments and vehicle stocks are stable around 5000 and 1000. Plane production seems to be able to replace losses, but not to build pools up. We are build 550 frames per month right now, half of them fighters (Zeroes and Oscars in equal numbers). Research has started on the Helen II-a (30 factories repaired, 30 more soon) and will soon start on the A6M5 (Rufe factories repaired). Plane production should, and will, be increased in March.

The flow of supplies to Japan is still insufficient, even though the situation is much less critical than at the beginning of the war. We are almost fine on fuel (at current usage, stocks would last about 1000 days), but low on oil and resources (14 months and 8 months at current usage). Hokkaido convoys can be a little improved, but most of the effort must come from Korea.

What are our objectives for March?

In China, our north western column (a tank regiment, a division and a brigade) should take Jiuchuan, Ansi and Hami, and march on Urumchi. Around Sian, Ankang and Kungchang will be taken. We will probe Lanchow and Kienko. But the main action will be in central China. My objective is to consolidate our positions around Chihkiang, take Tuyun and Kweiyang, and isolate Sichuan.

In Burma, our reinforcements will be used to clear the north of the country, and prepare a defensive line. A small column will move on Lashio and Paoshan (probably empty since the divisions that begin the game there were seen in Mandalay. The goal is to prevent, or at least delay and complicate, the escape of KMT units to India.

In the DEI, we should complete the capture of Sumatra, and hold a large part of Java. In the south, we want to take Timor.

Finally, I need to do something about Port Moresby and the Solomons. I am not really interested in this area, but I don’t want my opponent to consolidate, or not too fast.



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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/23/2012 10:23:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fcharton

If I remember correctly, the manual says something about shakedown cruises. Basically, sailing should increase a crew’s experience. This does not seem to be the case with my convoy ships : most of them have sailed since day one, and still have the same (abominable) experience. In fact, it seems the only way to get experience is to get shot at. In which case, “training” ship crews seems a bit useless…

Any experience on this?



Each ship class seems to have a max exp that training can achieve. There may also be some adjustment for nationality, I'm not sure.

For DD/CA's it appears to be about 50 is the max. For xAK's, it is more like 40 or maybe 45. After that, only getting in battle will increase crew exp. And of course, they have to survive.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/24/2012 11:42:38 AM   
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@Pax : thanks a lot. I was wondering about training convoy crews, but the “default level” seems to be 20/15, very close to what they begin the game with. Warships can reach higher experience, but they also start with much higher values, and progress very slowly (except when they survive combat). I will probably look for ships with low experience for their categories, and build them to default, but for the rest, crew experience can probably be ignored.

March 2nd, 1942

Insults and injuries


The survivors from the Surabaya debacle made to Pamekasan today. One DMS sank on the way, and HEIMS Kongo was torpedoed on the way. She’s probably listed on enemy sinking list, which is good: with a little luck the Allies won’t look for her, and this will buy her time to repair some damage. Kongo is 47/78/42, Mogami 30/52/21, Kumano 22/62/2.

Speaking of sunk ships, I had a close look at VP counts and ship losses yesterday. As per the manual, victory points is the sum of one’s base points and enemy losses in LCU, Planes and Ships. It seems that most of the FOW is concentrated on the ship total. Air and LCU losses are “roughly ok”, Base points are correct, so long you don’t have a huge base unsupplied. So, by substracting Allied LCU and air losses and Japanese base points from total Japanese VP, you get an estimated Ship Loss value, which you can compare with sinking claims.

This only works for large high VP targets, but I believe it can be put to use to get an answer to questions like “what sank in Pearl?” or “did his carriers really get it?”

Here is the graphic, keep in mind that a BB is about 200 points, and a CV 350.




From 12/7 to 12/10, estimates and reports are roughly equal. That would be Prince of Wales, Repulse, Oklahoma, Arizona and Tennessee.

On the tenth, estimated sinking go up by 200 points, which suggest a BB died of her wounds. This discrepancy lasts until the fourth of January… when the loss of BB West Virginia, on the 10th of December, is confirmed.

Reports and estimates then agree a few days, and show another 180 point discrepancy on the eight of January. And then, the difference goes up again by about 50 points around the 13th of January (battle around Balikpapan), 100 points on the 23rd (KB in Noumea) and 30 on the 28th (KB in Suva). These correspond to unreported sinkings, probably of large cargoes or tankers, or surface vessels (light cruisers).

On the 12th of February, the discrepancy falls by 230 points, as (lo and behold) the loss of BB California is admitted. The discrepancy is about 150 points, which correspond to unreported sinking since the beginning of the war.

And then, on the 23rd and 24th, the reported loss of two enemy CV brings the difference to -550 points, clearly showing they are FOW. Two more BB (Maryland and Nevada) were reported sunk on the 26th of February.

At this point, the difference between estimated ship losses and reported losses is 870 points (in favor of the reports). About 700 of those correspond to the inaccurate report on the two enemy CV. This means at least one of the last two BB reports is wrong, but I would actually believe both are fog of war, and the 190 points of difference correspond to unreported sinking (by KB and others).

This would suggest the following “story” about our raid on PH.
Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Arizona were sunk on the seventh.
West Virginia sank (or was scuttled) on the 10th of December.
California sank on the eight of January, near Lahaina, while trying to move to the West Coast, Maryland and Nevada probably managed to escape.

Big beach

Banjoewangi was captured today. We now hold all South Java, and the port of Banjoewangi, once the mines are cleared, will be a perfect staging area for the invasion of the island. The enemy is concentrating troops in Malang. I sent two infantry regiments to probe the base. If the forts are not too high, we can perhaps take it now, if this proves impossible, we will build up slowly in the south, and wait for the capture of Sumatra and the northern landings.

Speaking of which… Benkoelen was captured by parachute troops. You can’t really leave that port in enemy hands, but capturing it “on foot” implies a large delay. I have not used my paras a lot, in this game, but I am convinced they are the perfect solution to catch lightly defended and isolated bases.

Off Sumatra, Singkep fell today. We are also clearing all the small islands between Singapore and Borneo.

Boyington back in Burma

The AVG showed up over Magwe today. Eleven fighters, we traded one of them for two Oscar. Nothing to call home about, no reason to be sad either, but I am quite happy with the handling of the AVG in this game. In my previous game, they had eaten my light bombers alive, over China. This time, they just died nicely over Rangoon and failed to make a difference in China.

Mandalay fell today. The imperial guard division had been reinforced by an infantry regiment, but against twelve enemy units, I expected a long siege. Looks like dysentery and other regional features take no side.

Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 15441 troops, 126 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 507
Defending force 10194 troops, 30 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 380
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Mandalay !!!

Japanese ground losses:
377 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 75 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
4764 casualties reported
Squads: 304 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 223 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (12 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 38 (36 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 11
Units destroyed 1





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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/24/2012 12:58:59 PM   
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Good analysis on ship sinking. I do the same thing, the only way I know to keep track. Nice to know that I am not the only one doing so ... was afraid I had a rarae affliction!

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/24/2012 6:00:41 PM   
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March 3rd 1942

The Evil Imperial Air Force finest hour


In the East Indies, my opponent persists in sending unaccompanied bomber into harm’s way. Five CW-22 Falcons were shot down over Probolinggo, and two 139WH-3 over Palembang. Over Surabaya, three Hurricane IIb Trop were destroyed by my escorts.

I don’t complain, this is helping a lot with TRACOM, where I now have almost a hundred pilots, but this seems a bit wasteful. Loss ratio was 5:28 today…

The raid on Palembang was the most serious action today. I still don’t have air support there, and need to fly long range patrols from Singkawang and Singapore. But the enemy only scored two hits on refineries, and lost three planes over the base and a few more on their way back.

Repair, or not?

The bombing of Palembang poses an interesting question: should I repair damaged installations? Here are my answers so far…

Manpower : 852 (22) centres (ie 852 operational, 22 damaged). I clearly have enough of those: repair off for all.
Resources : 15441 (339) centres. I am running an excess of about 8000 tons per day, or the production of 40 centres. I have abundant stocks, none of those will be repaired, ever.
Oil : 2422 (208) centres : a no brainer : oilfields should be repaired

Refineries : 2820 (545) : I used to repair those, but I have more refineries than oilfields, and some are easy targets for enemy bombers. I am planning not to repair those anymore. In fact, it is probably more efficient to expand continental refineries (in Manchukuo and China) than to repair damaged ones in the DEI.
Light Industry : 10327 (153) : these produce supplies, and more supplies is good. However, one factory will produce a point per day, and cost 1000 to repair. This is not cost effective.
Heavy Industry : 7297 (23) : This is not a huge cost, but the benefits are not very important either. I am producing more HI than I need now.

Overall, the only installations I am planning to repair are the oilfields. Heavy Industry and refineries might be repaired, but not systematically. Other installations will stay damaged.

This will save on supplies. I should have thought about it before…

Silk Road

A tank regiment captured Kiuchuan today. It was defended by a separate brigade, one of the bad units that serve in the west. We will pursue them towards Ansi, and then Hami. The capture of Kiuchuan cuts western China from possible reinforcements (the slow road from Sining is just too long and slow). My infantry (a division and a brigade) is progressing along the northern road. I expect Turkestan to be ours by May.

In Kungchang, a first attack by two tank regiments reduced the forts. We are attacking tomorrow, and have an infantry brigade arriving the day after. Defenses are very light, a Chinese corps and a base force. This is a bit strange : Kungchang is a pretty good place to make a stand.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/26/2012 12:55:10 AM   
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A dull day in China


Kungchang was attacked again, and forts reduced to zero. I expect the base will fall tomorrow. We have about 2000 AV in the area, and there are 6 units detected in Lanchow. I think we will try to take the place, and perhaps go for Sining afterwards. Once both those bases are taken, retreating units in this area cannot be supplied anymore, and can be left to rot.

Small units are still moving in the central plains. Three corps were in Hwainan for a while, we dislodged them today, destroying 200 squads in the process.

We have destroyed about 20 000 Chinese combat squads since the beginning of the war. Even taking replacements into account, this means the KMT has about 16 000 squads left, or less than half their starting force. Respawning units might bring this total a little higher, but not much.

So far, we have been killing 7 000 combat squads every month. At this rate, there will be little left of the KMT in two months… On the negative, such a reduced army needs less supplies, and the situation is probably not as bad as it should be, had the KMT held their own. This is a paradox of the war in China : as Japan, your best strategy is to let the lack of supply strangle the KMT, but in order to take China, you need to destroy a fraction of the Chinese army, which will alleviate their supply problems…

How strong is the KMT now? This depends on how many disabled squads my opponent could repair. I suspect the Northwest is lightly defended. We shall see very soon. Kunming and the southern border is probably weak as well. Most of the forces should be in Sichuan, and around Changsha. At present, I am holding a central position between Changsha and Chungking. If this Changteh-Kweiyang line can be held, the enemy can be defeated in detail.

Airplane research so far

Out of 80 possible research factories, 27 have been expanded to size 30, and two have fully repaired. There is little point in expanding everything now: long term models don’t repair fast, anyway, and if I realize I was wrong increasing some model, previous supplies and HI spent increasing and repairing are lost.

I have a clear delivery schedule for the Helen. The Helen Ia will be out in April, as planned. I now have one 30 factory researching the IIa model (20%), and a second one will be repaired by the end of the month. This means we should be able to advance the IIa by two months, to July 1942, and the IIb by five. Since they use a specific engine (Nakajima Ha-34), there is little point in overproducing them to gain on research.

The other repaired factory produced Rufes. It is now researching the A6M5. This should provide a three months acceleration, and the A6M5 should be available in January 1943.

The next factories to repair should be the Nicks 1a. There are two 30 factories, that will probably not allow to speed the 1a, but can advance the 1c by four months, to January 1943.

Three factories are researching the A6M3. They should not be able to advance it, but will advance de A6M3a by two months, to October 1942, and then the A6M5 by two more, to November 1942.

We will then have five factories researching the Zero line, which means the A6M5b could be ready in June 43, the A6M5c in January 44, and the A6M8 in August 1944. I can, and will, do better than that, by repairing more factories. With PDU off, the Zero line is one of my best past of advance, as lots of squadrons convert to it.

The Tojo line has three factories, which will advance the IIb to January 43, and the IIc to September 43.

Finally, the Oscar line has two factories, which should allow to accelerate the IIb to December 42, the IIIa to December 43, and the Oscar IV to October 44. I certainly can do better here…

I also research later models, estimations will be provided in due time…



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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/26/2012 4:36:45 AM   
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Kungchang was attacked again, and forts reduced to zero. I expect the base will fall tomorrow. We have about 2000 AV in the area, and there are 6 units detected in Lanchow. I think we will try to take the place, and perhaps go for Sining afterwards. Once both those bases are taken, retreating units in this area cannot be supplied anymore, and can be left to rot.

Small units are still moving in the central plains. Three corps were in Hwainan for a while, we dislodged them today, destroying 200 squads in the process.

We have destroyed about 20 000 Chinese combat squads since the beginning of the war. Even taking replacements into account, this means the KMT has about 16 000 squads left, or less than half their starting force. Respawning units might bring this total a little higher, but not much.

So far, we have been killing 7 000 combat squads every month. At this rate, there will be little left of the KMT in two months… On the negative, such a reduced army needs less supplies, and the situation is probably not as bad as it should be, had the KMT held their own. This is a paradox of the war in China : as Japan, your best strategy is to let the lack of supply strangle the KMT, but in order to take China, you need to destroy a fraction of the Chinese army, which will alleviate their supply problems…

How strong is the KMT now? This depends on how many disabled squads my opponent could repair. I suspect the Northwest is lightly defended. We shall see very soon. Kunming and the southern border is probably weak as well. Most of the forces should be in Sichuan, and around Changsha. At present, I am holding a central position between Changsha and Chungking. If this Changteh-Kweiyang line can be held, the enemy can be defeated in detail.


I'm playing (as I have time, and so not very fast at all) Scen 10 Ironman as allies. I can tell you it is really hard for the KMT to repair disabled squads outside of Chungking area. Pulling supply to forward areas is tough. Starting unit morale is so low and leaders are poor. So, likely has not repaired many.

quote:

ORIGINAL: fcharton
Airplane research so far

Out of 80 possible research factories, 27 have been expanded to size 30, and two have fully repaired. There is little point in expanding everything now: long term models don’t repair fast, anyway, and if I realize I was wrong increasing some model, previous supplies and HI spent increasing and repairing are lost.

I have a clear delivery schedule for the Helen. The Helen Ia will be out in April, as planned. I now have one 30 factory researching the IIa model (20%), and a second one will be repaired by the end of the month. This means we should be able to advance the IIa by two months, to July 1942, and the IIb by five. Since they use a specific engine (Nakajima Ha-34), there is little point in overproducing them to gain on research.

The other repaired factory produced Rufes. It is now researching the A6M5. This should provide a three months acceleration, and the A6M5 should be available in January 1943.

The next factories to repair should be the Nicks 1a. There are two 30 factories, that will probably not allow to speed the 1a, but can advance the 1c by four months, to January 1943.

Three factories are researching the A6M3. They should not be able to advance it, but will advance de A6M3a by two months, to October 1942, and then the A6M5 by two more, to November 1942.

We will then have five factories researching the Zero line, which means the A6M5b could be ready in June 43, the A6M5c in January 44, and the A6M8 in August 1944. I can, and will, do better than that, by repairing more factories. With PDU off, the Zero line is one of my best past of advance, as lots of squadrons convert to it.

The Tojo line has three factories, which will advance the IIb to January 43, and the IIc to September 43.

Finally, the Oscar line has two factories, which should allow to accelerate the IIb to December 42, the IIIa to December 43, and the Oscar IV to October 44. I certainly can do better here…

I also research later models, estimations will be provided in due time…

I keep forgetting you are Scen 2, so the Tojo uses the wrong engine (ha-35 instead of RL ha-34). Zeros' move up easy, but honestly, the I generally stay with the 3a. It has the best performance and I don't see a lot of improvement in pilot losses with armor on this aircraft. Durability is just too low. Sam is your only hope.

I've never had success with Nick either. Hopefully, I will be able to see if you do and how you use them.

Oscar is Oscar ... you need them for the range, but they really are just escort kami's. Still, you need them or you lose too many bombers whose pilots take longer to train.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/29/2012 8:59:57 PM   
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March 5th 1942

China crumbling


The capture of northwestern is proving easier than expected. In the far west, our tanks are chasing the brigade that retreated from Kiuchuan.

Ground combat at 81,25 (near Kiuchuan)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 960 troops, 0 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 80
Defending force 1289 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Allied ground losses:
569 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Another unit is detected in Ansi, with a little luck it will be a base force… Our infantry (a division and a brigade) are still marching on Hami.

Kungchang fell today, it was lightly defended. We pursued the KMT towards Lanchow. I am decided to try and take Lanchow and Sining now. Ce qui est fait n’est plus à faire.

Finally, the last enemy held hex on the road to Ankang was cleared today. Ankang will probably fall in a few days, leaving pocketed enemies in the woods between the road and Sian.

Ground combat at 82,43 (near Ankang)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 11029 troops, 102 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 293
Defending force 2184 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Japanese assault odds: 24 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1283 casualties reported
Squads: 79 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 38 (13 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Units retreated 1

The defeated unit is the 59th Chinese corps that tried to capture Nanyang a few weeks ago. It was close to 300 AV back then, and is now reduced to battalion size. I believe this proves one point: in China, it really pays off to hammer defeated units.

The large column retreating from Sian has now reached Nanyang. We will march on Sinyang, and then Hankow, Ichang, and Changteh. We are about a month away from the big push in central China.


Sumatra and Java

Lahat (the dot base in south Sumatra) fell today. The march on Oosthaven can resume. In the north, Medan was easily captured, the installations are undamaged. An air support unit is arriving in a few days, so that we can fly CAP over those oilfields.

In Java, the enemy tried a shock attack in Malang.

Ground combat at Malang (55,105)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 6172 troops, 110 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 452
Defending force 8712 troops, 60 guns, 182 vehicles, Assault Value = 371
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 17 (4 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
643 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 101 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Disruption is probably high, I might attack tomorrow. But we’re headed for a stalemate here.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/30/2012 10:38:52 PM   
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Buildup in Port Blair


My search planes have detected a large enemy concentration in the Andamans. Port Blair has 14 units, 27 000 troops, almost 300 vehicles and as many guns. Bombers and fighters were sent in, for a reconnaissance in force. It wasn’t such a good idea: there were Hurricanes, one or two RAF squadrons, and the third AVG, probably close to full strength. We did shoot down a handful of fighters, but lost 20 bombers in the process.

I wonder what enemy plans are. You would not use so many troops to just make a stand, or deny Port Blair to its rightful owner. If the objective was to reinforce Sumatra, those troops would already be in Sabang or Medan, and landing this early in Tavoy or Mergui looks like a losing proposition, even if he plans an early campaign in Burma.

My best guess is that he might want to build the airfield to bomb Sumatra and Indochina. But even the longest range bombers will not reach Palembang, nor Singapore.

We shall see. In the meantime, I will transfer fighters to Rangoon and Bangkok, and sweep until air superiority can be achieved. This will probably take a while and cost planes and pilots, as the AVG has good pilots and planes, and Hurries are strong customers, but this is worth it. Once the air defenses are gone, a long air bombing campaign can begin.

Can air bombing neutralize a well-defended island base?

In other news

On Sumatra, Djambi fell today, the oil fields were not damaged. So far the conquest of Sumatra is beyond my wildest expectations… I am capturing everything at 100%. The only problem, right now, is that Palembang is spoiling fuel at a very fast rate. I am trying to expand the port, to push the limit upwards, and will try to convoy some of it, but with the enemy so close, I’d rather spoil fuel than risk my tankers… In the south, the long crawl to Oosthaven is going on. There is nothing I can do to speed it.

On Java, the situation is stabilized in Malang. We are there, they are there, and we’d both need more troops to dislodge the other. I am sending two tank regiments along the western coast, to try a flanking attack. The idea is to occupy the hex northwest of Malang and enter Malang from here, thus opening the hexside and opening a road north for my troops… Ideally, I would like to try and pocket the 15+ units in Malang and Surabaya.

This will, of course, take some time, but this is fine. The enemy wants a siege, he will have maneuver…

In western China, the two last roadblocks before Lanchow were cleared today. My tanks will move into Lanchow, the infantry will march a few days behind.

Report on bases

Japan now holds 521 bases, 84 more than a month ago. We are capturing about three bases a day. 203 of those bases have engineers, but only eleven bases have more than 100 engineers at the moment.

248 bases have forts (48%), for a total of 534 levels. We build about three fort levels per day. 23 bases have level four or more (+1), 66 have level three (+18), 76 have level two (+8), and 83 level 1 forts (+18)

313 bases have an airfield (60%). 20 have level 7 or more (+6), 70 have level 4 to 6 (+6), 103 have level 2 or 3 (+12) and 119 (+3) level 1. Hankow and Takao are level 9 fields, Manila, Shanghai and Hong Kong level 8.

315 bases (60%) have ports. 16 have level 7 or more (+2), 38 (+1) level 4 to 6, 112 (+9) level 2 or 3, and 149 (+23) level 1.

I am not completely serious about building, yet, but this is taking shape.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 6/30/2012 11:19:43 PM   
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Port Blair

The Battle of the Andamans has begun, and it will be tough. We lost eight planes to four enemies, today. We are resting, and rotating, and attacking again. It will take a while, but this is the only area on the map where my fighters are needed, I can afford an attrition battle.

Banjoewangi and Malang
Banjoewangi was cleared of mines today. This will be my main port for the south Java beach head. Probolinggo, which I used so far, is too close to Surabaya, and Ljoemadjang is on the wrong side of the island…

In Malang, a deliberate attack failed to achieve significant results. I am reinforcing with small units (tank regiments and SNLF battalions), in order to defend the beach head. Three regiments from Mindanao and a division from Singapore will arrive in a few weeks, for the real battle.

Roti
The island next to Koepang was captured today by an SNLF company. This provides nice intelligence on Koepang. Apparently, the enemy has at least four units there. I am keeping Timor for later.

All the islands between Timor and Java have been taken, save one, Kalao, where the program refuses to allow me to disembark. Does anyone know why, and what can be done about it? (paras, I suppose)

Burma, and the bloody 104th
Schwebo fell today. It was easier than expected : the imperial guard division crossed the river, shock attacked, and there! We now hold all the central plains. I will pretend to pursue the defenders, but I am satisfied with this perimeter.

One guard regiment is marching on Lashio, we should be there in a week. The reinforcement column is arriving in Moulmein, most of them will be split between Prome and Magwe, to form a line along the indian border. One division, the 104th will be sent to Lashio, and march on Paoshan.

The 104th has an interesting story. It is a Chinese Expeditionary force division that begins the war in Canton. It participated in the capture of Hong Kong, and then, together with the 38th ID, marched south and captured Pakhoi and Nanning. After the fall of Nanning, the 104th marched on Hanoi, and was sent to Singapore. The fall of the city found her in Johore, and she was sent back to Burma, where she will return to China. A long way back home…

China
Two noteworthy events today : Ankang was captured, which means the road between Tienshui and Nanyang is now my northern frontline. About 25 units are trapped in the forest between Ankang and Sian. I am leaving two divisions here, but the rest of the troops, my artillery “death star”, in fact, which saw little use since the fall of Sian, will move east, and join the battle around Kweiyang.

Between Tuyun and Kweiyang, a first attack disappointed. We failed to achieve better than 1:2 odds, and dealt very limited damage to a Chinese infantry corps. A second division will arrive in two days. I hope I can capture this hex, which would cut Changsha from the Sichuan basin.

My opponent is reinforcing Tuyun by rail. So far, none of those troops have tried to flee towards Chungking. This is good, I want to prevent such a link up, and turn the road from Changteh to Kweiyang into a central position.


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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/1/2012 1:40:52 AM   
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Can air bombing neutralize a well-defended island base?



4E's definitely can. refer to PzB's AAR regarding Christmas Island. THat means 2E's can as well, but it will takes 100's ... many 100's to get equivalent bombloads.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/1/2012 5:18:25 AM   
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My opponent is reinforcing Tuyun by rail. So far, none of those troops have tried to flee towards Chungking. This is good, I want to prevent such a link up, and turn the road from Changteh to Kweiyang into a central position.


My experience with Tuyun shows it doesn't draw supply well for a Chinese garrison or allow fort construction. I don't see you having much difficulty dealing with the base if the Chinese attempt to hold.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/1/2012 10:21:42 AM   
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@SqyMyLemon: that’s very good news. I want the Allies to defend Tuyun, and stay there. The more problem they have getting supplies in, the less they will try a counterattack.

My goal is seal off the troops in the south, while I march on Chungking, and then clear the pocket in Central China. If Kweiyang can be taken, the supply flow from Kunming and Chungking to Changsha, and south China will be very limited, which means those units will not be able to mount a counterattack while I attack the Sichuan basin. But to achieve that, I need to cut them off first.


March 8th 1942

Port Blair, and considerations on ground bombing

No sweeps today, my pilots are resting, we will be back tomorrow.

@Pax : I am going to read PzB’s AAR (in full, it gets quoted so often that I feel I need to read all of it). Meanwhile, I have been investigating a bit, here are a few conclusions.

Bombers use the same ordnance for airfield and ground bombing (GP bombs), and effectiveness is pretty much proportional to bomb tonnage. So, it is yet another of those cases where size (weight here) does matter.

Now, my bombers (level, light, dive, torpedo, patrol) can be sorted by GP bombload (for torpedo bombers, one torpedo = 2x250 kg GP bombs).

At the top, I have the “one tonners” that can carry four 250 kg bombs at normal range: Emilies, Helens, and Sallies.
Just below, I have the three quarters, usually two 250 kg and four 60 kg bombs: Nells and Betties (and perhaps Kates too)
Then, there are the half tonners, like the Mavis, and many fighter bombers (Oscars from IIa onwards, Nicks, late war Zeroes), which carry 2x250kg
Then, the Lillies, with 4x100 kg
Below we are in the realm of light bombers (note that Anns and Maries have surprisingly high bomb loads). These are not useless. In fact, I believe they do a very good job in harassing enemy units, and raising their disruption before an attack, but they are less relevant to the problem at hand.

And of course, to use all these bombers to full effect, you need normal range, that is level four airfields, and less than nine hex ranges. Applying this to Port Blair, this means flying Sallies and Helens from Tavoy and Victoria Point, and Bangkok or Moulmein or Rangoon with Nells and Betties.

I have about 250 Sallies in play right now. Some of them will convert to Helens, but that will be a minority. I intend to use them to reduce Port Blair. To this effect, both Tavoy and Victoria Point will have large air support. I will also move an air HQ either to Bangkok or to Moulmein, to support the Nells and Betties.

All your mines are ours

Just as we finished sweeping Banjoewangi, mines showed up in Probolinggo, submarine-laid, most likely. CA Maya was reported to have hit one, but the damage was very light. I will clear them tomorrow.

In Malang, the Dutch tried to shock attack me out of the hex, but it didn’t quite happen.

Ground combat at Malang (55,105)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 7899 troops, 118 guns, 176 vehicles, Assault Value = 354
Defending force 7878 troops, 60 guns, 176 vehicles, Assault Value = 275
Allied assault odds: 1 to 3

Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1261 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 159 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 21 (2 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Their disruption and fatigue are probably quite high now, and our attackers are safe for a while. We are patiently waiting for the reinforcements…

Philippines and resources

Bacolod fell today. The Allies only hold one island in the Philippines: Panay. I am reorganizing my garrisons, and preparing the resource convoys to Mindanao and Leyte. They will probably bring resource back to Kagoshima: it is about 30 hexes away, Hong Kong is just 25.

With most of the DEI in Japanese hands, all the small oil and resource convoys need to be organized. My main line of thought, right now, is that everything that makes it to Japan or the mainland can be considered “brought back”, and that lots of small convoys, over short lanes, are much better than massive escorted transports. I will provide more details on my lanes soon.

Lanchow and Kungchang

In Kungchang, two Chinese units had remained in the hex after the base fell. They had nowhere to go, since we controlled all the hexsides. One surrendered today, and the second was wiped out by attrition. We are now free to march on Lanchow.

Talking of which… a first attack by my tank regiments revealed 150 enemy AV in the city, and only level one forts.

Ground combat at Lanchow (81,34)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 3300 troops, 0 guns, 494 vehicles, Assault Value = 266
Defending force 6533 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 150
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Allied ground losses:
1018 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 60 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 14 (5 destroyed, 9 disabled)

We did not achieve 1:1 odds, but disruption is low, and the enemy situation looks pretty bad. The base might even fall before the infantry arrives from Kungchang.

Once Lanchow has fallen, I will probably go for Sining as well. Reconnaissance reports two units, and a few planes, stranded there.


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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/1/2012 5:11:20 PM   
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Bombers use the same ordnance for airfield and ground bombing (GP bombs), and effectiveness is pretty much proportional to bomb tonnage. So, it is yet another of those cases where size (weight here) does matter.

And of course, to use all these bombers to full effect, you need normal range, that is level four airfields, and less than nine hex ranges. Applying this to Port Blair, this means flying Sallies and Helens from Tavoy and Victoria Point, and Bangkok or Moulmein or Rangoon with Nells and Betties.


Do you have any house rules concerning minimum altitude for ground bombing? This is one thing to consider in your assessment for effective bombing results. The lower you fly, the more damaging your bombing will be. In my PBEM as the Allies, my Japanese opponent is bombing as low as 2k. For Japanese bombers, the results have been devastating to Chinese forces. Terrain and forts have been no protection and the disruption caused prevents me from being able to hold out anywhere against ground assault, even 3x terrain. Having almost no AA capability the Japanese suffer few losses as well.

Another thing I've noticed. Supply simply doesn't flow well to Chinese troops in the front lines. If they occupy bases in the rear, the supply routine that dictates 3x supply must be on hand before the base will redirect surplus to other bases/ground units is a killer for the Chinese. I think in order to mount any kind of defence, the Chinese must maintain only garrison requirements in bases and move all excess AV out to keep supply moving.

Keep this in mind as you push forward. Large enemy concentrations in bases are a good thing...for you! Also, I can't stress the importance of bombing bases to drain supply, be it against the ground troops or the base itself. I had 14k of supply at Chungking, three days of Japanese bombing ate up 12k of it.

In my opinion, China is a real problem for an Allied player because of how supply works in the game. Against a Japanese player that knows his stuff, it is indefensible.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/7/2012 10:54:03 AM   
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I have fallen back on this AAR once again, and we are now playing the turn for March 17th,

March 9th 1942, minesweeping gone awry, and those forlorn places in China

The small minefields in Probolinggo were swept today, but two of my DMS captains apparently overdid their job and wandered into the Surabaya major minefield. How one can get lost in one’s own base, and drift over forty six nauticals to end in the middle of a major enemy base (they got fired at by the coast defenses, so they must have been very close) is a mystery to me, but since both skippers went down with their ships, I am afraid I will never know.

Both captains were awarded the Old Maid Cross, a little know Japanese distinction conferred (always posthumously) to servicemen the country is actually happy to be ridden of, and were nominated to the prestigious “IJN bozo of the month award”.

Meanwhile, in China, we took Pingsiang, the dot base south of Changsha. This should increase the pressure on the Hunan basin, and mean 120 less resource centres for the KMT.

In Turkestan, we captured Ansi, only defended by a base force, and the separate brigade we have been pushing around for a week. Will the twelfth tank regiment, that already captured Kiuchuan, conquer all western China singlehandedly?






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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/7/2012 11:31:18 AM   
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March 10th, Dutch tenders, Hell over Blair, and front ends

Java is pretty calm these days. I am attacking every other day in Malang, to keep the enemy busy while I try to turn the place. It seems my opponent is trying to evacuate some of his naval assets in the region. Today, SS I-154 sank AS Zuiderkruis off Semarang. In the Indian Ocean, a small naval force has been detected, apparently retreating towards Australia. A surface squadron was sent to intercept.

We have been sweeping port Blair for two days, and losses are very high already. We are losing 30 planes a day, for about 10 enemies. I am resting, and will come back, but I am beginning to wonder about the cost to my fighters… Not suppressing Port Blair is clearly a problem, as it interdicts naval movement between Rangoon and Singapore. On the other hand, it is not as if I was planning to invade India. I need to think about it.

In China, the hex between Kweiyang and Tuyun has been reinforced with a second Chinese Corps, and today’s deliberate attack failed to capture it. A division from Chihkiang has been sent to reinforce

In Lanchow, a first deliberate attack by my tanks achieved 1:1 odds and reduced the forts. I am not sure why my opponent did not garrison the place, but I will not complain about it.

March 11th, the fall of Lanchow, and bandits all over the road

Our five tank regiment proved sufficient to take Lanchow.

Ground combat at Lanchow (81,34)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 3630 troops, 0 guns, 543 vehicles, Assault Value = 292
Defending force 4783 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Lanchow !!!

Allied ground losses:
2094 casualties reported
Squads: 87 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 173 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (6 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 1

The infantry is one day behind, and will proceed on Sining. The tank regiments will be split: one half will be sent towards Sining, to pursue the defenders of Lanchow, and serve as a vanguard. The other will march on Kiuchuan and the crossroad to Sining, to cut off possible retreats or attempts to reinforce (even though I doubt such a thing is possible).


In Central China, KMT units appeared all along the road from Ichang to Kweiyang. The units lost in the marshes south of Ichang since the beginning of the war reappeared in Ichang, two units took position on the road east of Changteh, eight more appeared in Changteh, and two more at the crossroad west of Chihkiang. Kudos to my opponent for this, it is probably very difficult to coordinate such a move.

This sort of cuts my supply line. Not quite, mind you, since most of those moves were made against hexes I occupied and therefore still control. But I need to clear all those enemies before I can move forward. Fortunately, the 2500 AV from Sian are not between Sinyang and Ichang, lots of fresh and experienced troops are on the way.


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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/11/2012 10:17:11 PM   
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March 12th, 1942, punishment, all around

The Dutch tried to evacuate small ships from Java to Australia, and were punished for doing so…

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
CA Haguro
DD Maikaze
DD Umikaze
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
AM Jan van Amstel, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AM Pieter de Bitter, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
CA Haguro
DD Maikaze
DD Umikaze
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
AGP Eridanus, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

I do realize this is overkill, and not something to gloat about, or even to mention is a respectable AAR, but precious little is happening in the war today, so…


Punishment went both ways, though… In China, I tried to dislodge the troops that invaded Changteh yesterday. This was a very bad idea, as one of the corps was a very strong (500 AV) one.

Ground combat at Changteh (81,50)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 23343 troops, 204 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 767
Defending force 36670 troops, 314 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1161
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Japanese ground losses:
2607 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 280 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
266 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Disruption is high, and my garrison fell from 770 to 480 AV. But I doubt the enemy can take the base, so I suppose all I have to do is to wait for the cavalry, which is now travelling (on foot) between Hankow and Ichang.

Such a strong KMT force had to be taken from the Changsha garrison. I will try to move against Hunan. I don’t intend to take Changsha, but increasing pressure there can only help my troops between Changteh and Kweiyang.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/12/2012 11:05:54 PM   
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March 13th, 1942, more punishment in Java, and a better day in central China

In the Indian ocean, we are still chasing Dutch boats, today was a pretty good one.
Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
CA Haguro
DD Maikaze
DD Umikaze
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
AS Janssens, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
AGP Wega, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

And in the afternoon, a bombing run over Surabaya paid off

Afternoon Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
G3M2 Nell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
SS KXIII, Bomb hits 1
SS KXI, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

Reinforcements are now landing in Banjoewangi. A division is unloading now, two regiments are a few days away. Also, a tank regiment managed to turn Malang, and open a corridor through the besieged base. I will soon have over 1000 AV in south Java, and lots of supplies. I want to be on the offensive when the northern landings happen (probably Buitenzorg and Kalidjati).


In China, a first attack in Ichang damaged the invaders. I expect to throw them back into the marshes tomorrow. In Changteh, several bombing runs did more damage to the enemy than yesterday’s failed attack. I will go on bombing the place, and probably bombard as well, once my units are rested.

Allied ground losses:
184 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/12/2012 11:24:34 PM   
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March 14th 1942

In the Indian Ocean, no Dutch ships were detected, or attacked today. But we did have a good day over Surabaya:

Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
G3M2 Nell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
SS KXIII, Bomb hits 1
AR Castor, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AVP Fazant, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS KXI, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

We invaded Ketapang, one of the last enemy held bases on Borneo. As often, it was held by a loose collection of defeated units. About a month ago, my opponent tried to evacuate them, but my Nells from Singkawang sank his transports, and the troops have been left there to rot. Allied bombardment revealed 15 AV against 125 mine (the 24th Infantry regiment). It shouldn’t be too long.


In central China, Ichang was cleared :

Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 25953 troops, 186 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 1006
Defending force 18059 troops, 112 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 459
Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
388 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 73 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3578 casualties reported
Squads: 299 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 365 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 22 (22 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

My troops will now march on Changteh, and oust the Chinese corps there, then we can proceed on Kweiyang.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/13/2012 4:47:08 AM   
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Hi Francois,

Still following along. I'm getting my Japanese fix from your and obvert's AAR's.

I need to learn to say more with less as you do in your AAR. I talk to damn much!

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/13/2012 6:28:26 AM   
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Following it too. A very well done AAR Francois! Really like your style

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/14/2012 12:35:52 AM   
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Thanks a lot, SqzMyLemon. I really enjoy writing this AAR (sometimes I even wonder whether I write the AAR because I play the game, or the other way around), but it is always good to know it reads.

And welcome, Grey Joy, to the weird side, where you spend countless hours roleplaying a bureaucrat (should we call this C&C, clipboards and convoys?). The fact we enjoy it probably says something about our mind, something with a complicated latin name.

But anyway, there’s a war to be fought, with papers, excel spreadsheets, coffee table maths, and beer (this is one thing this game has in common with real warfare: beer abuse!) So let us be about it, as they say in blue water scifi series…


March 15th, 1942, giving up on Port Blair,

Those sweeps over Port Blair are getting expensive. Today, we lost about thirty planes, to ten enemies. Over the last three days, over eighty fighters were shot down, for about thirty bandits. And today another enemy air concentration (Kittyhawks and Airacobras) was detected in Port Moresby. I will sweep it tomorrow, but I doubt it will be painless.

The situation is not bad, I am still leading in air losses (1275 vs 1510), and I have air superiority over my bases and most of the war zone, but I am having misgivings… Shall I go on and try to break the RAF, or just let them alone, as see what happens?

As March, and the amphibious bonus, ends, I will hold most of the Indies: Sumatra, Borneo, the Philippines, the Celebes and Moluccas, most of New Guinea and the Solomons, and the conquest of Java will be a matter of weeks. Everything, save three areas: Timor, Port Blair, and Port Moresby.

Timor is not strongly held, and I should be able to invade it as soon as I’m done with the Phillies. A pair of infantry regiments should do the trick. Port Blair and Port Moresby are most certainly strongly reinforced, and fortified, and an invasion would be a very costly affair. I am considering suppressing them instead, and trying to keep my opponent busy there.

I don’t think leaving Port Blair alone threatens my position. It does interdict shipping to Burma, but I don’t really need it (especially if I manage to take China out of the war). I also complicates an invasion of India, but I am not planning this. On the other hand, All the troops holding the Andamans won’t be fighting my boys in Burma.

I’m very split about Port Moresby. I do understand conventional wisdom says it is a thorn in the Japanese side. Yet, I fail to see the risk. So long Japan holds Rabaul and Manus (and perhaps Horn Island, or a pair of Australian islands in the gulf of Carpentaria Those troops are not going anywhere. Besides, if this can convince my opponent he is winning in the Solomons, and he should begin his reconquest there, I will be very happy : this is the longest road to Japan.

I had first thought of invading Port Moresby from Buna, over the Kokoda trail. But I sent the infantry division to Rabaul instead, as my strategic reserve. I am giving this a couple of weeks, and will think about it again in April. Java and Sumatra are my first order of business, now.

Talking of which, Ketapang fell today, and the enemy seems to be evacuating Malang, and concentrating in Surabaya. This is good, as Surabaya is even more “besiegeable”. A long battle in Surabaya might damage the installations there, but I can afford this, as Palembang was captured intact.



On the supply front, things are going fine. I am saving about 5 000 tons supplies a day, and am getting close to the levels at game start. Fuel stocks are increasing as well, by about 5000 tons a day, excluding bunker fuel. Bunker fuel is down, and my total fuel reserves are marginally increasing. My frugal approach to the economy seems to be paying dividends. I will probably have about 700 000 HI points by the end of the month.

All this suggests I can soon forget about keeping the economy fueled and supplied, and focus on the important aspect: garrisoning and defending the empire. My long term goal is getting pretty clear. I want to make enemy reconquest a very bloody affair, especially at start. The bloodier it begins, the slower it will get. To do so, I think I need three things : a long way to reconquest, ideally, something close to the historical advance on the Solomons, large garrisons even on slow islands. This is the whole point of my attempts in China, its capture will free lots of troops, and good defenses. I am now scavenging all the engineer units I can find, and sending them to build forts, that will be manned. Level four is a minimum, I will try to do better every where I can.


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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/14/2012 9:53:16 AM   
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March 16th, 1942

Over Surabaya, our bombers sank another Dutch submarine and damaged AR Castor, a repair ship. We lost three bombers and two fighters to enemy CAP. Three Dutch bombers were shot down over Malang, where enemy resistance is breaking, even though the forts are still at level two. The evacuation of the base is confirmed, one British brigade disappeared today.

Meanwhile, my reinforcements are unloading in Banjoewangi. We will be in position to march on Malang tomorrow or the day after.

I am now preparing the second phase of the invasion of Java: the northern landings (at this point, I should probably find a cute and warlike name for this operation). I have two divisions near Oosthaven. Once the city is taken, they will land in Buitenzorg. I am sending transports from south Java to Oosthaven (hoping the city will be ours by the time they arrive). I would like to land in Buitenzorg before the end of the month, but the schedule is pretty tight.

Meanwhile, three infantry regiments are staging in Ketapang, and will cross the straits to Kalidjati. I hope the landings to happen around the 20th. This is not exa ctly a feint, as three regiments can conquer quite a bit of ground. I hope to create a threat on Batavia, to prevent the reinforcement of Buitenzorg. Once everything is over, we should have three division equivalents in the north, two in the south, and the conquest should be easy.


In Burma, the 112th infantry regiment captured Lashio, and will march north on Myitkvina. The 104th infantry division, spearheaded by a tank regiment, will march on Paoshan and Tsuyung. In the south, the fifth and sixth guard division are transiting between Moulmein and Rangoon. The former should be based in Prome, the latter in Magwe, and the Imperial Guard division will march northwards. My short term goal, in Burma, is to show enough strength to dissuade an early offensive. Reinforcements will arrive later, a small part once the DEI is captured, the rest when China falls.

Most of the action today happened in China. In the far west, the lone tank regiment that took Kiuchuan and Ansi and was pushing a base force and a trashed brigade before it, is now blocked, halfway between Ansi and Hami, by a second brigade, probably from Urumchi, and bombarded daily by planes from Hami. Meanwhile, on the northern road, a full strength division is three days away from Hami, and a mixed brigade a week behind. Those separate brigades are in for a nasty surprise, and those planes in Hami are doomed. Once they are done for, I believe very little is left to defend Urumchi.

In Central China, the road between Ichang and Changteh, cut by a small enemy force, is being cleared. Even in rough terrain, the efficiency of air bombing as a “softener” is proven…

Over 50 combat squads are disabled during the air attacks…

Morning Air attack on 83rd Chinese Corps, at 81,49 , near Changteh

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 25
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 33
Ki-27b Nate x 12
Ki-44 Tojo x 2

Allied ground losses:
381 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44 Tojo x 4
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 22
Ki-44 Tojo x 2

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


And this makes the subsequent land attack much easier

Ground combat at 81,49 (near Changteh)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 3627 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 127
Defending force 1910 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 82

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


The hex should fall tomorrow.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/15/2012 3:00:01 PM   
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March 17th 1942

Done with Sumatra


Today, the Evil Imperial Army captured Oosthaven, at the southern tip of Sumatra. In the north, another infantry division is a marching on Sabang. The conquest of Sumatra is pretty much over, and was quite the walkthrough. The enemy never provided credible resistance and all installations were captured undamaged, together with large oil, fuel and supply stocks.

This somehow foils my evil plans. I had expected a Palembang fortress, or something similar, and the major reason why I wanted a stingy approach to Japanese production was to allow for trashed oilfields in Palembang.

But let us not cry over unspilt milk. The situation in Sumatra is good. Convoys from Medan and Palembang to Malaysia have been set up. I am still spoiling quite a bit of fuel in Palembang, but the port is being built, and this should cease soon. My fuel stocks are not increasing yet. I suspect the spoiling is one cause, and some task forces hanging around in ports another one.

In Oosthaven, my two divisions are now waiting for their transports. Those should arrive in five or six days, which means I should make it to Buitenzorg before the end of the month (and of the amphibious bonus).

No way to fight a war

In western China, near Ansi, the KMT did something very silly today. As you might remember, my tank regiment failed yesterday to dislodge a separate brigade that blocked the road. Today, the brigade counterattacked.

AFB friends, who chance upon this AAR, don’t do this, ever! As a general rule, the Chinese lack anti-tank weapons, and those low quality units that defend border areas even more so. If you try to charge tanks, even disrupted, over open terrain, you get this:

Ground combat at 80,21 (near Ansi)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 1702 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56
Defending force 856 troops, 0 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 70

Allied adjusted assault: 0
Japanese adjusted defense: 65

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)

Allied ground losses:
368 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
9th Separate Brigade
Defending units:
12th Tank Regiment


A waste of a good unit, if you ask me… But let’s not cry over spilt enemy milk…


Popping the cork

As expected, the two Chinese corps blocking the road to Changteh were defeated today. About 1000 AV is a few days away, twice as many are arriving in Ichang. My artillery is further away. The drive on Kweiyang can soon begin.

In Changteh, my opponent actually helped by attacking. That was a bad idea: the KMT attacking the IJA at 2:1 AV ratios in defensive terrain is a dangerous proposition. If the IJA is behind forts, then:

Ground combat at Changteh (81,50)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 35628 troops, 312 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1068
Defending force 23268 troops, 204 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 536
Allied adjusted assault: 192
Japanese adjusted defense: 1233

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6 (fort level 3)

Japanese ground losses:
344 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2352 casualties reported
Squads: 71 destroyed, 209 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled


The Chinese probably are around 700 AV now (I have noticed that a 1 valid combat squad = 1 AV relation seems to hold in such attrition battles). I doubt they will reinforce the hex (they would need to strip the Changsha garrison, which is only around 1500 AV), and I will have around 1500 AV in Changteh in a few days.

Between Kweiyang and Tuyun, the Chinese have reinforced the hex, I have as well, and nobody seems able to break the stalemate.

Ground combat at 75,50 (near Kweiyang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 35039 troops, 405 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 967
Defending force 14605 troops, 192 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 402
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
832 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 112 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled

Allied ground losses:
637 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 99 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)


I am really looking forward to this campaign in central China. According to combat reports, about 20 000 KMT combat squads have been destroyed so far, which leaves (after accounting for replacements and born-again soldiers) the KMT with about 15 000 squads (a little less than half their initial forces). This still represents quite a formidable force, and I doubt a maneuver campaign aiming at striking Chungking can work. Which means my middle term objective is unchanged : destroyed as many squads as I can, to soften Chinese resistance.


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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/15/2012 3:30:51 PM   
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Plus ça change…


Near Ansi, the separate brigade that tried to attack a tank regiment yesterday was punished

Ground combat at 80,21 (near Ansi)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 864 troops, 0 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 74
Defending force 1230 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1

Allied ground losses:
668 casualties reported
Squads: 48 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1


Note how the brigade went from 56 AV yesterday to 2 today (and probably less now…)


For some reason, the enemy tried the same gamble in Sining, with more and better troops, but against two tank regiments.

Ground combat at Sining (80,32)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 8836 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 379
Defending force 1920 troops, 0 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 162
Allied assault odds: 1 to 3

Allied ground losses:
641 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled


Même punition, même motif.

Apparently, Sining has not been reinforced. Apart from the units that retreated from Lanchow, it is defended by Ma Bufang’s 81st corps. I have 1500 AV four days away, I doubt they can hold.


Finally, after the failed enemy attack in Changteh, I did try a counterattack, which didn’t quite succeed.

Ground combat at Changteh (81,50)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 21096 troops, 204 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 589
Defending force 33743 troops, 311 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 888
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Japanese ground losses:
1238 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 138 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Allied ground losses:
508 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


I don’t have enough troops to break the stalemate, and need to wait for the reinforcements, which should be there in a couple of days.

Sapworks

Iloilo, the last enemy held base in the Philippine islands, was attacked today for the first time. To my surprise, a single infantry regiment proved enough to reduce the forts. A second regiment is a hex away, I am waiting for them for the final onslaught.

On Borneo, in Bandjermasin, the 5th Amphibious brigade attacked and managed to reduce the forts. The enemy still has troops, but probably is out of supplies. I am resting tomorrow, and attacking the day after.

On Java, Malang is being evacuated. I am not sure this is a wise decision, this base has good terrain and forts, and once it falls, Surabaya is quite isolated.

All this suggests major advances in the days to come.

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RE: Perfection, of a kind, spence (A) vs fcharton (J) - 7/19/2012 9:07:09 PM   
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AR Castor is reported sunk in Surabaya. The circumstances were a bit odd. Our regular bombing run had damaged her, but she did not sink

AR Castor, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

And then…

Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Allied Ships
AR Castor, and is sunk


Like many others, I had thought sweeps were meant to shoot down enemy fighters. Now, I know they can sink ships as well (although it is a pretty rare occurrence).

AR Castor was the only ship found in port. Another raid on Batavia, and yet another on Semarang yesterday, found nothing. Enemy naval assets have probably been evacuated.


In Bandjermasin, a second day of attack brought the forts to zero. We are resting tomorrow, and will attack the day after. A similar situation prevails in Iloilo.

In China, I have been attacking the small units threatening my supply line between Changteh and Kweiyang. North of Kweilin, an armored car company routed a Chinese division (I know this sounds a bit strange). South of Chihkiang, an IJA division suffered at the hands of two Chinese corps.

Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 10971 troops, 104 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 293
Defending force 5836 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 192
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Japanese ground losses:
1240 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Hate that!

You know nothing is happening in the game when you comment on river crossings and other side actions.

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