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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/28/2012 3:36:59 PM   
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Oh, and this AAR is ofc now open to Oloren
Thank you once more for all your comments and suggestions (even if I did not heed them).



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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/28/2012 4:05:29 PM   
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Gratz Terje and Oloren,

Thx for answering all my silly questions and playing to the end.

To me this game says alot about the current play balance. A game where german did, sorry Terje, very poorly in 41. Not only did russian side have a large army cuz of lack of pockets. Nor did they ever lost much territory and there for manpower/Fac's. So they had HI to support a large 42 army it also had a high manpower regen ability through out the game. Still Terje was able to hold out to 9/44. Considering the average weather in the months between 9/44 and 5/45.
This tells me why i consider the just run for the hills strategy for russian side, problematic. Not to say u if meeting a player with german side skillz might not have much choice. Not only will u lose alot more HI and manpower. U also have to take back all that territory, taking time. Time = time to dig more than Terje ever could/did. Not that it will stop teh juggenaut but it will slow it = more time. I hope we can dispence with the silly notion that Russian will be in Berlin by '43. If so it really is down to the german player. Also if german player just gives up in early 43. Oh no the russian juggenaut is rolling i better give up. Well then there is ofc no chance of holding Berlin by 5/45 while it might actually be plausible to do so.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/28/2012 4:14:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Walloc
1. A game where german did, sorry Terje, very poorly in 41.
2. Time = time to dig more than Terje ever could/did.
3. Oh no the russian juggenaut is rolling i better give up.

Rasmus


1. Why sorry?! I believe I was the first one to say so
2. I think I actually should have been able to dig in alot better than I actually did, but that is simply not enough as the engineers go through forts like hmmm me through a packet of sigs...
3. The USSR juggernaut is a sloooow beast. Oloren constantly said he had some MP issues, and I recall this from my own experience as well when I played the USSR.

The issue ofc, is wether people find it fun to play it through, as there comes a point where the Axis is FUBAR. Still, I felt I learned alot during that last year tbh.


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/28/2012 6:49:56 PM   
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Enjoyed following the AAR! One does not see many going to the bitter end...:)
Especially liked the insightful comments and the sense of humor.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/28/2012 6:54:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: governato

Enjoyed following the AAR! One does not see many going to the bitter end...:)
Especially liked the insightful comments and the sense of humor.


Thank you, although my sense of humor might not be shared by all


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/28/2012 7:31:52 PM   
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Terje gets Sportsman of the Year Award! Good stuff. Great to see players see things through to the end, no matter what the situation. You played a dictator hanging on the bitter end very well

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/28/2012 9:29:11 PM   
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another go as germany terje?

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/29/2012 7:38:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Schmart

Terje gets Sportsman of the Year Award! Good stuff. Great to see players see things through to the end, no matter what the situation. You played a dictator hanging on the bitter end very well


Thank you
Hehe yeah cannot say I felt very SORRY for my virtual men as they died there


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/29/2012 7:39:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juret

another go as germany terje?


There will be another game, Oloren and I are deciding who will play what at the moment
So, yes I'll lose another game


*edit* Yup will be another as Germany, this time with the shortened scenario, and with random weather


Terje

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/29/2012 7:53:16 AM   
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greates respect for your stamina terje. this is one of the few games which were played to the bitter.

i officialy vote for /sticky.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/29/2012 7:53:21 AM   
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will be first to hope better luck for you this time
i will probably follow your AAR with interest

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/29/2012 8:51:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bigbaba

greates respect for your stamina terje. this is one of the few games which were played to the bitter.

i officialy vote for /sticky.


Not much stamina needed for those last turn
Thank you for those kind words.


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/29/2012 8:52:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cpt flam

will be first to hope better luck for you this time
i will probably follow your AAR with interest


Thank you

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/29/2012 10:50:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439

*edit* Yup will be another as Germany, this time with the shortened scenario, and with random weather

Terje


Hi Terje,

Looking at what u produced in last game. Yeah i know the cuircumstances. Non the less and i know u alrdy looking to the detailpart. Pay more attention to details of the amament production. All those 210mm How costs 346 arma per piece plus those 240mm gun u produced too. Prolly not worth it arma wise less u have a big surplus. 1 210mm How = 43 type 41 squads or just over one battalions worth of inf. U always welcome to ask.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/29/2012 11:24:18 PM   
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Well, I'd like to thank Terje for another complete WiTE game. He had a rough start but fought on to the end. Whatever the victory score, Terje was the clear winner and his determination and innovative late game defense proved to be both a challenge and an inspiration.

We have decided to play another game and Terje will take the Germans again. Now that we both have experience in a complete campaign game all the way through, I think we'll both do better. This one will have random weather and while it can really mess up the Axis in 1941, it may prove to be advantageous to the offense since the defense can no longer be certain of the weather at all times.

I am hoping Terje will do another AAR. They are informative and witty and about mid way through them, I have to fight back the impulse of rooting for him. Hats off to my opponent!

As before, we are planning on fighting to the bitter end, whatever comes.

Oloren

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/30/2012 3:25:25 AM   
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Congrats to both players for playing the game to its conclusion! Always good to see late game AARs, there are never enough.

Looking forward to reading the rematch AAR!

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/30/2012 8:31:23 AM   
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You would have won except those 66 King Tigers hadn't been assigned to a unit yet.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/31/2012 10:22:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oloren

1. Well, I'd like to thank Terje for another complete WiTE game. He had a rough start but fought on to the end. Whatever the victory score, Terje was the clear winner and his determination and innovative late game defense proved to be both a challenge and an inspiration.

2. We have decided to play another game and Terje will take the Germans again. Now that we both have experience in a complete campaign game all the way through, I think we'll both do better. This one will have random weather and while it can really mess up the Axis in 1941, it may prove to be advantageous to the offense since the defense can no longer be certain of the weather at all times.

3. I am hoping Terje will do another AAR. They are informative and witty and about mid way through them, I have to fight back the impulse of rooting for him. Hats off to my opponent!

As before, we are planning on fighting to the bitter end, whatever comes.

Oloren



1. Thank you, although your defence in the north as well as you blizzard play broke me, so well won.
2. Nah, I hardly think I'll do better, although I will notice when I am out of armaments alot sooner this time
3. Well off course, must let people have something to laugh over


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/31/2012 10:23:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer

Congrats to both players for playing the game to its conclusion! Always good to see late game AARs, there are never enough.

Looking forward to reading the rematch AAR!


Thank you, but to be technical it will be the re-rematch, and I am allready 0 for 2

Terje

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/31/2012 10:24:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw

You would have won except those 66 King Tigers hadn't been assigned to a unit yet.


Haha yeah, still annoying to see that division of Tigers just standing outside the factory hall when the war is being decided though


Terje

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/31/2012 10:36:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Walloc


quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439

*edit* Yup will be another as Germany, this time with the shortened scenario, and with random weather

Terje


Hi Terje,

Looking at what u produced in last game. Yeah i know the cuircumstances. Non the less and i know u alrdy looking to the detailpart. Pay more attention to details of the amament production. All those 210mm How costs 346 arma per piece plus those 240mm gun u produced too. Prolly not worth it arma wise less u have a big surplus. 1 210mm How = 43 type 41 squads or just over one battalions worth of inf. U always welcome to ask.

Kind regards,

Rasmus


Yeah, there will be alot more disbanded "shiny things" this time around. If I could only stop producing all those Tigers now


Terje

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