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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/27/2012 8:05:29 PM   
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It seems like the " Reichs Götterdämmerung" has begun, and it will end quickly


Terje, fire up your Wagner for next little while

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/27/2012 8:35:36 PM   
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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 7:11:12 AM   
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Nah, need to RAISE my spirit, so I went with Sabaton's Ghost Division. Seems about right when my panzers are my best units at the moment


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 7:19:38 AM   
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Turn 144

Overall
Well, we have managed to get our best troops back to the Oder Line (with a few exceptions), the USSR is attacking us everywhere, and it seems likely we will lose quite a few divisions in the south. Oh well nothing that can be done about that THIS turn atleast. We will see what we manage to rail out next turn, if any.
A total of 64 USSR attacks result in 8 helds, 57 retreats and 1 rout. We are still able to force the USSR to keep attacking the same old worn down units over and over, that atleast is something. Our 1 attack resulted in a USSR retreat, so a 100% success rate. Cannot ask for more now can we

Losses
USSR : 102.000 troops, 1.026 guns, 522 AFVs, 650 AC.
Axis : 76.000 troops, 1.961 guns, 141 AFVs, 10 AC.

German Pools
Manpower : 13.324
Vehicle : 271.764
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 1 That guy again. You know the one that ALWAYS gets picked last for everything...

Turns to mud
3. Seems I will have a little time to improve the last defensive line after all. And this time the rivers will not be frozen when the enemy tries to cross.







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 9:34:59 AM   
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Congratulations on making it into 1944!

The guns n' mortar losses on both sides each turn are pretty hefty; why are the air losses so one sided? Do you have no Luftwaffe left to die?

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 3:39:54 PM   
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Congratulations on making it into 1944!

The guns n' mortar losses on both sides each turn are pretty hefty; why are the air losses so one sided? Do you have no Luftwaffe left to die?


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Hehehe I have AC enough in my pools to last me untill kingdom come. Nah, the onesided aerial results are most likely since I am not flying that many offensive missions anymore. I am not really attacking, so my fighters are flying defensive CAP and shooting down alot of USSR planes doing so.


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 3:47:43 PM   
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Hi Terje,

Any chance of a OOB/losses update, please?

Kind regards,

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:51:03 PM   
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Hi Terje,

Any chance of a OOB/losses update, please?

Kind regards,

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Sure, lots of screens taken at the start of turn 144 follows below.


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:51:46 PM   
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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:52:13 PM   
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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:52:41 PM   
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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:53:54 PM   
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German pools, focused on AC to answer Randallw properly







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:54:41 PM   
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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:55:18 PM   
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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:55:44 PM   
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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 4:56:08 PM   
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That was the ones I took, if anything else is wanted, just ask.


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 5:05:22 PM   
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Thx Terje.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 5:30:00 PM   
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About the tigers in the pool. I get ur frustration and u could ask the question why cant i make units/put em into other units.
I can understand that line of thinking.

Another question/line of thinking one could do. Is asking why do I have 7,3k AFV/Tanks and so on in my OOB. Things arent exactly going great and i know ur to some extend saving ur pz formations. Non the less looking at all the later war AARs there seems to be a trend of AFV/Tank/So on being significantly to much higher than historic numbers. Begging the question do ppl take enough pz losses with the current engine? or is it just a function of ppl using those formations different.
If u look at what Kursk vs the losses retreating/fighting through Ukraine did to the Pz Truppen. There is a marked diffence. Ofc the latter toke much longer too, affecting any comparions. But if u further look at how tigers was lost. The single highest loss cause to Tigers was destruction by own crews. Lack of fuel, cant repair or transport issues rather than turning over to the enemy and so on. One can ask if these difficulties are represented in game to a high enough degree.
If seen in that light the 250 tigers in pool can be in looked at in a number of ways. Not that it helps on ur frustration and it isnt a criitic of u Terje. Its just doesnt seem like many ask those type of question and well u sparked me to write this.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 5:57:14 PM   
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About the tigers in the pool. I get ur frustration and u could ask the question why cant i make units/put em into other units.
I can understand that line of thinking.

Another question/line of thinking one could do. Is asking why do I have 7,3k AFV/Tanks and so on in my OOB. Things arent exactly going great and i know ur to some extend saving ur pz formations. Non the less looking at all the later war AARs there seems to be a trend of AFV/Tank/So on being significantly to much higher than historic numbers. Begging the question do ppl take enough pz losses with the current engine? or is it just a function of ppl using those formations different.
If u look at what Kursk vs the losses retreating through Ukraine did to the Pz Truppen. There is a marked diffence. Ofc the latter toke much longer too, affecting any comparions. But if u further look at how tigers was lost. The single highest loss cause to Tigers was destruction by own crews. Lack of fuel, cant repair or transport issues rather than turning over to the enemy and so on. One can ask if these difficulties are represented in game to a high enough degree.
If seen in that light the 250 tigers in pool can be in looked at in a number of ways. Not that it helps on ur frustration and it isnt a criitic of u Terje. Its just doesnt seem like many ask those type of question and well u sparked me to write this.

Kind regards,

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No offence taken
BUT, if you look at it another way, it gets "weird".
1. I am virtual Adolf, my word is law
+2. I am short on tanks
+3. I have a surplus of Tigers
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=I should make a Tiger division




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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 6:13:35 PM   
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No offence taken
BUT, if you look at it another way, it gets "weird".
1. I am virtual Adolf, my word is law
+2. I am short on tanks
+3. I have a surplus of Tigers
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=I should make a Tiger division
Terje


Actually if u ask Pavel. I have seen him modifying save games if bugs of a certain severity is affecting the game. Many thx too Pavel for that btw.
It doesnt hurt to ask........... if he wouldnt be so kind as to insert Panzer Division Lintho( ToE of 250 tigers)

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/28/2012 6:29:15 PM   
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Actually if u ask Pavel. I have seen him modifying save games if bugs of a certain severity is affects the game. Many thx too Pavel for that btw.
It doesnt hurt to ask........... if he wouldnt be so kind as to insert Panzer Division Lintho( ToE of 250 tigers)

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Hahaha. well, considering the games of WorldOfTanks I play, I think THAT division would have a TOE of 250 JagdTigers



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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/29/2012 6:09:54 AM   
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Turn 145

Overall
We are unable to extract many units from the south east, and it now seems certain that we will lose some 10 divisions there. And I realize just now that I forgot to count number of attacks this turn. Sorry about that.

Losses
USSR : 109.000 troops, 1.109 guns, 516 AFVs, 629 AC.
Axis : 74.000 troops, 1.896 guns, 186 AFVs, 102 AC.
Here we see the major drawback of stacking three airfields together, when an overrun occur, you take losses to all three of them instead of just one...

Units disbanded
5 fortified zones are disbanded this turn.

German pools
Manpower : 17.299
Vehicles : 270.386
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 292

Turns to mud
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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/29/2012 7:02:14 AM   
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Turn 146

Overall
The number of USSR attacks is now so high it is getting hard to count... We are pushed back everywhere, and the situation in the SE looks more and more dire. We will extract what we can, and pray for some held results there.
For the first time the USSR manage more than 100 attacks, 103 to be precise. They result in 11 helds, 81 retreats and 11 routs. As a result our losses rise as well.

Losses
USSR : 117.000 troops, 1.193 guns, 514 AFVs, 460 AC.
Axis : 89.000 troops, 2.373 guns, 148 AFVs, 3 AC.

Units disbanded
1 fortifed zone

German pools
Manpower : 19.183
Vehicles : 270.956
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 179

TURNS TO MUD
1. And we still have some space betweem the Oder and the USSR. This is good!







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/29/2012 1:10:25 PM   
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Your tenacity continues to impress

perhaps sabaton's 'once we were soldiers' is even more appropriate

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/30/2012 12:34:34 PM   
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Your tenacity continues to impress

perhaps sabaton's 'once we were soldiers' is even more appropriate


Thank you, always have been called stubborn
Any Sabaton song is ALWAYS right ofc, right now I am hoping to make the USSR pay The Price of a Mile.
I fear though, that before long the USSR will be able to play Attero Dominatus, however before that, at the
Oder Line, we will have ourself a Panzerkampf.

Gee, gotta stop this now, could go on for ages


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/30/2012 12:52:27 PM   
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Turn 147

Overall
The map looks stunning this turn. Those lovely brown spots makes me really happy.
Too bad that USSR managed to force a retreat in the Finnish line just before mud arrives though. Anyway, it is now about delaying the enemy for as long as possible, since fort building is somewhat slow during mud.
The USSR launched 66 attacks, scoring 9 helds, 56 retreats and 1 rout.

Losses
USSR : 81.000 troops, 537 guns, 478 AFVs, 396 AC.
Axis : 62.000 troops, 1.582 guns, 87 AFVs, 5 AC.

German pools
Manpower : 16.254
Vehicles : 272.056
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 3







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 7/31/2012 9:10:50 AM   
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Turn 148

Overall
We are greatly helped by the mud, and it should allow us to save a few more units in the SE. Apart from that, our pools are more or less dry, save when it comes to tigers, panthers and APCs.
The USSR launched 39 attacks, scoring 12 helds and 27 retreats this turn.

Losses
USSR : 76.000 troops, 465 guns, 175 AFVs, 424 AC.
Axis : 38.000 troops, 873 guns, 66 AFVs, 0 AC,

German pools
Manpower : 9.782
Vehicle : 273.789
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 9







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/2/2012 9:34:28 AM   
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Turn 149

Overall
Alot of held results for the USSR, but they do not come where I need them, in the south, so there alot of divisions will be lost. Oh well nothing can be done about it now.
A total of 41 USSR attacks resulted in 10 helds, 29 retreats, 1 rout and 1 surrender. Some units surrendered in the retreat results as well.

Losses
Think there is something irky here again...
USSR : 4.000 troops, 76 guns, 26 AFVs, 76 AC. ????
Axis : 25.000 troops, 556 guns, 46 AFVs, 5 AC.

Units lost
The 197th, 62nd 14th and 225th Infantry Division and the 101st Jaeger Division all surrendered to the USSR.

Units disbanded
5th Jaeger Division, 101st Jaeger Division (just reformed), 3rd Mountain Division, 207th Sec Division, 442 Sec Division, 444 Sec Division, 14th Infantry Division (just reformed), 15th Infantry Division, 35th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Division (just reformed), 225th Infantry Division (just reformed) and the 369th Croat.Infantry Division were all disbanded this turn.
These were units with very low morale and TOE (although the units that just reformed had a TOE of around 30%).
Furthermore another 5 divisions were merged into other divisions this turn.

German pools
Manpower : 39.390
Vehicles : 279.639
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 761







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/2/2012 9:27:28 PM   
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i think there is the next "Kessel" for some divisions in the south. I hope the Oder line works with Forts lev 4.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 8/2/2012 9:36:03 PM   
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i think there is the next "Kessel" for some divisions in the south. I hope the Oder line works with Forts lev 4.


Sappers will buzzsaw through mandmade forts so long as the Soviet player assigns them to the corps or HQ.

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