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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/16/2012 4:00:31 PM   
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Turn 106

Overall
Although the number of helds my troops managed to inflict on the enemy is very good, I think this is the turn that broke the southern defences. No proper fallbackline now before the German border, not good. And what is even worse, our counterattacks once more fail miserably. I am now forced to deploy panzers on the frontline once more. Things are not looking good.
The USSR launch a total of 25 attacks, causing 12 helds, 12 retreats and 1 rout. We tried 5 attacks, but only scored 3 helds, 1 retreat and 1 rout.

Losses
USSR : 148.000 troops, 1.870 guns, 794 AFVs, 588 AC.
Axis : 60.000 troops, 1.041 guns, 104 AFVs, 66 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 446.349
Vehicles : 232.786
Armaments : 273.800
Hiwi : 0






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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/16/2012 4:03:29 PM   
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True but I thought the artillery/AT shortage was due to assets being spread out amongst fronts/units etc. Glantz describes a battle in 44 where Model stopped a Russian advance cold by scrounging up every AT gun he could find, coming up with several hundred.

Also: Perhaps the discrepancy in the AFV numbers were refits? Germans tended to count refit tanks/td/etc as new vehicles.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/17/2012 7:33:05 AM   
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Turn 107

Overall
The USSR traps 4 divisions (3 German and 1 Rumanian), and our attempt to relieve them fails (2xCV, 2x#troops ).
There are ALOT of USSR troops in the south, so all new units are promptly sent there to help buy us time.
A total of 19 attacks were made by the USSR, causing 6 helds, 12 retreats and 1 rout. We try to counterattack, launching 3 attacks, resulting in 2 helds and 1 rout. I really do not see any point in counterattacking anymore, even if we do cause a rout we will lose as many troops as the USSR in doing so...

Losses
USSR : 126.000 troops, 1.503 guns, 578 AFVs, 563 AC.
Axis : 51.000 troops, 894 guns, 65 AFVs, 11 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 457.740
Vehicle : 239.464
Armaments : 255.131
Hiwi : 487
The question, when will I reach 500k manpower?
The increase in Hiwi's is due to the destruction of 6 forts in the south.

Pest control
Our cavalry deals with all 7 partisans that appear.







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/18/2012 3:00:25 PM   
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Turn 108

Overall
Another three divisions are trapped, but we fall back in the most threathened area (4-5 hexes) to another line where we will make yet another stand. For now I am hoping to hold another few months, it will be close but it MIGHT work. If so, we will fall back a long way to shorthen the line once more. This is not about victory points, it is about keeping virtual Adolf alive as long as possible now.
The USSR manage 26 attacks this turn, scoring 7 helds, 16 retreats, 1 rout and 2 surrenders. We on the other hand make only 4 attacks, and score 2 helds, 1 retreat and 1 rout.

Losses
USSR : 131.000 troops, 1.575 guns, 624 AFVs, 747 AC.
Axis : 75.000 troops, 1.196 guns, 63 AFVs, 40 AC.

Units lost
The following untis surrendered to the USSR this turn;
-20th Inf div
-44th Inf div
-72nd Inf div
-13th Rum Inf div.

Pools
Manpower : 472.177
Vehicles : 245.179
Armaments : 244.736
Hiwi : 974
(once more the Hiwis are a result of disbanded forts).

Pest control
5 partisans appear, and we flush them out.

OOB/Losses
Not factoring in production numbers, at this rate the USSR will run out of tanks long before we do, atleast that is something... They have lost over 5.000 T34-1942s so far...







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/19/2012 8:13:12 AM   
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Turn 109

Overall
Not a good turn even if the number of attacks are down. Our line is crumbling it seems. Guess I will not be able to hold it untill mud, our situation is deteriorating every turn. Soon I will have to fall back to Germany I guess.
The USSR makes 19 attacks, scoring 5 helds, 13 retreats and 1 rout. Our 3 attacks ammount to 2 retreats and 1 rout.

Losses
USSR : 118.000 troops, 1.355 guns, 529 AFVs, 422 AC.
Axis : 72.000 troops, 954 guns, 64 AFVs, 25 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 473.652
Vehicles : 249.711
Armaments : 250.313
Hiwi : 64

Pest control
We deal with the three partisans that shows up.






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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/20/2012 2:46:17 PM   
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Turn 110

Overall
Nothing really changes, but we cut off three USSR tank corps. The enemy will open the pocket next turn, but atleast it is nice to once more see surrounded USSR troops.
The USSR launch 15 arracks, and score 2 helds, 10 retreats, 1 rout and 2 surrenders. The surrenders came when the USSR tank corps pushed through our line and found two undefended forts.
We make 2 attacks and score 1 held and 1 retreat. The held result inflicted 50% of our panzer losses this turn...

Losses
USSR : 106.000 troops, 1.160 guns, 450 AFVs, 336 AC.
Axis : 41.000 troops, 676 guns, 45 AFVs, 93 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 481.394
Vehicle : 255.350
Armaments : 257.525
Hiwi : 113

Pest control
We deal with all 5 partisans that appear.







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/21/2012 2:27:21 PM   
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Turn 111

Overall
1/6th of the way there I guess :D
More importantly, 11 or 12 turns untill mud. Holding this line untill then would be very nice.
The USSR make some attacks and reestablish a link with their surrounded units. We do however push the new USSR troops back and reestablish the small pocket. This time it is better held as well, so one lucky die roll now, and we might destroy alot of tanks next turn. We will see.
A total of 17 USSR attacks results in 1 held, 14 retreats and 2 routs. We make 5 attacks, and for once they all succeed, as we record 4 retreats and 1 rout.

Losses
USSR : 125.000 troops, 1.514 guns, 547 AFVs, 468 AC.
Axis : 52.000 troops, 853 guns, 107 AFVs, 10 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 489.135
Vehicles : 258.527
Armaments : 254.184
Hiwi : 1

Pest control
All three partisans are delt with.

Disclaimer
Sorry had a screenshot of total losses, but forgot to paste it into paint before using copy again...

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/21/2012 7:14:35 PM   
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I am wondering about the condition of your infantry divisions. How is moral looking overall? Have the rebuilt divisions that were lost in the blizzard gained any increase in moral?

How many of his attacks are coming from Rifle corps? You should post a couple battle results screens to give an idea what your front line is facing?

If you cannot hold the pocket and make them surrender maybe you should just route them out.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/22/2012 12:07:55 AM   
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The game is played on a knifes edge and there is only room for one side on the edge.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/22/2012 1:39:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RCH

I am wondering about the condition of your infantry divisions. How is moral looking overall? Have the rebuilt divisions that were lost in the blizzard gained any increase in moral?

How many of his attacks are coming from Rifle corps? You should post a couple battle results screens to give an idea what your front line is facing?

If you cannot hold the pocket and make them surrender maybe you should just route them out.


The units lost in the Blizzard are probably the best infantry divisions I field at the moment. This is because they were allowed to rebuild back in Germany, wheras the units on the line are constantly worn down.

Most of his attacks are from corps sized units, as to rifle corps, I have not looked at that, I do however see alot of tank/mech corps at the front. Will make the next screenshot one of battle results.

True, but IF it holds, I get to destroy some units If I fail this time, there is nothing to do but to rout them as you say.


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/22/2012 1:40:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pelton

The game is played on a knifes edge and there is only room for one side on the edge.


Well, I'll give the USSR the knife, and my own troops some firearms


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/22/2012 2:15:01 PM   
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Turn 112

Overall
Not good. The USSR attack all along the line, and we have to pull back from the sector around Kaunas as the enemy threathens to form a large pocket here. The surrounded USSR troops were relieved once more, so this time we break their link back to their comrades, and then rout them.
31 USSR attacks resulted in 4 helds, 25 retreats, 1 rout and 1 surrender. Our 3 attacks resulted in 1 retreat and 2 routs. More importantky, we once more managed to reform a line. But it is clear that we will soon have to fall back. The next prepared line is in Germany, but we will make use of the mountains in Hungary/Rumania as well. Will stay here for as long as it is relatively safe, but once our army is threathened, we will have to pull back.
Oh, and all the Italians are gone now as well...There goes my diggers.

Losses
USSR : 136.000 troops, 1.809 guns, 787 AFVs, 825 AC.
Axis : 67.000 troops, 1.364 guns, 220 AFVs, 27 AC.

Pools
Hey hey hey, we break the 500k limit...
Manpower : 532.660
Vehicle : 264.334
Armaments : 233.527
Hiwi : 120

Pest control
4 partisans pop up, and our cavalry have a good week as they run around the map pushing partisans away. All are removed from the map.

Screenshots
At the request of RCH, some screenshots of battle results. Since I still do not figure out Gimp, there will be 3 pictures. The first one (below) is a randomly chosen held result, the second one, a randomly chosen retreat result and the third is the rout result. All are with the USSR as attacker.







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/22/2012 2:15:42 PM   
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Retreat!






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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/22/2012 2:16:40 PM   
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Run away!!!

Just to clearify, this unit was not a frontline unit, it was in the immediate rear simply acting as a speedbumber.






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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/22/2012 3:07:46 PM   
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Terje, just as a side note, I noticed that in the south there are Hungarian units fighting. I don't believe those units will retreat into Romania. If you don't move them north and clear the Romanian border they might be lost.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/22/2012 5:42:20 PM   
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quote:

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Terje, just as a side note, I noticed that in the south there are Hungarian units fighting. I don't believe those units will retreat into Romania. If you don't move them north and clear the Romanian border they might be lost.


Did not think about that. Good point, and will retify the situation!
Thank you.

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/23/2012 12:06:22 PM   
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Turn 113

Overall
The USSR keeps pushing, and we keep moving weak units back to the places they retreated from to keep the USSR attacking the same hex turn after turn. We got the Hungarians safely north, so that they will not have to fight with their back against the Rumanian border.
The USSR launch 35 attacks, scoring 7 helds, 27 retreats and 1 rout, while our 1 attack was held by the USSR.

Losses
USSR : 103.000 troops, 1.095 guns, 386 AFVs, 513 AC.
Axis : 65.000 troops, 1.373 guns, 107 AFVs, 22 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 542.626
Vehicle : 267.969
Armaments : 209.274
Hiwi : 57

Pest control
Our cavalry deals swiftly with the 4 appearing partisans.









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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/24/2012 8:07:30 AM   
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Turn 114

Overall
The USSR keeps pushing, but we are able to push them back again in alot of locations, we then fill the empty hex with a worn down unit, forcing the USSR to spend MPs on clearing the hex again. The USSR manage 34 attacks, scoring 4 helds, 25 retreats, 4 routs and 1 shatter. Our 6 counter attacks result in 4 retreats and 2 routs, while in all 4 retreats, atleast one unit routs as well.

Losses
USSR : 118.000 troops, 1.332 guns, 715 AFVs, 595 AC.
Axis : 62.000 troops, 1.313 guns, 69 AFVs, 6 AC.
Two things are noteworthy;
1. If all our forces fought as well as the Luftwaffe, we would be in Siberia by now.
2. Our AFV losses are mainly TDs, of which we have plenty to spare, while the USSR losses are mainly in light and medium tanks.

Units lost
The Rumanian 6th Cavalry Division shatters.

Pools
Manpower : 553.136
Vehicle : 272.157
Armaments : 196.078
Hiwi : 195

Pest control
Once more our cavalry deals with the three appearing partisans.







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/24/2012 9:17:10 AM   
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try to hold out untill the mud terje :)

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/24/2012 5:59:16 PM   
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quote:

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try to hold out untill the mud terje :)


That is what we are hoping for at the moment. Not having my virtual Fuhrer shoot himself before 2nd half of -44 is now the objective


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/25/2012 3:30:16 PM   
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Turn 115

Overall
My recon pilots could not believe what they heard, as they were ordered to fly for once (usually there is no need for me to see what lies behind the front). When I opened the turn, I noticed the USSR had suddenly flied alot of deep recon flights this turn, that is something new. After flying my own recon, I was atleast happy to see that the USSR does not really have alot of units in the rear, and there are no signs of any buildup (should have taken a screenshot after my own flights I realize now...oh well).
The USSR keeps pushing everywhere, and I keep putting low TOE units in their path to slow them down, and only counterattack where it seems plausible that I will succeed. I THINK I might be able to hold untill mud, but Rumania will flip this winter no matter what I do.
The USSR launch 35 attacks, scoring 7 helds, 26 retreats and 2 routs, while our own 7 attacks nets us 4 retreats and 3 routs.

Losses
USSR : 146.000 troops, 1.992 guns, 716 AFVs, 550 AC.
Axis : 67.000 troops, 1.344 guns, 93 AFVs, 33 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 566.272
Vehicles : 277.532
Armaments : 191.911
Hiwi : 145

Pest control
3 partisans shows up, and all three are charged by our cavalry.







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/26/2012 7:09:58 AM   
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Turn 116

Overall
Nothing really changes, the USSR pushes my weak units back, then I move them back in front of the USSR again to make them attack the same hex again and again. In the south we managed to isolate a stack last turn, and the USSR did not manage to open the pocket, so we got ourself some prisoners this turn. I was quite pleased when I saw what kind of units we forced to surrender.
The USSR's 23 attacks ammounted to 3 helds, 19 retreats and 1 shatter, while we only made one attack, causing a surrender.

Losses
USSR : 163.000 troops, 2.257 guns, 488 AFVs, 410 AC.
Axis : 47.000 troops, 807 guns, 45 AFVs, 93 AC.

Units lost
The USSR force the 1st Guards Rumanian Infantry Division to shatter. This is not too bad, since Rumania will change sides sooner rather than later anyway.

Units destroyed
The 2nd Rifle Corps, 14th Guards Cavalry Corps and the 11th Guards Cavalry Corps surrender this turn. Two cavalry corps less to worry about is always a nice thing.

Pools
Manpower : 581.718
Vehicle : 282.877
Armaments : 194.463
Hiwi : 142

Pest control
Both appearing partisans are delt with.








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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/26/2012 11:53:08 AM   
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Hi Terje,

Could u show us the losses screen.

TIA,

Rasmus

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/26/2012 12:54:37 PM   
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quote:

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Hi Terje,

Could u show us the losses screen.

TIA,

Rasmus


Ok will be the next screenshot.


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/26/2012 2:56:13 PM   
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The air ratio tends to be distorted somewhat because unlike the other figures, air numbers include units not on the map, ie the national reserve. He may have half his airforce there if he's not deliberately trying to get more airbases generated. Do you have much in your reserve?

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/26/2012 5:38:30 PM   
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quote:

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The air ratio tends to be distorted somewhat because unlike the other figures, air numbers include units not on the map, ie the national reserve. He may have half his airforce there if he's not deliberately trying to get more airbases generated. Do you have much in your reserve?


I think I have about 80-85% of the LW on the map. Their morale is high as ever, so do not see any need to pull more of them back.


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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/27/2012 2:21:30 PM   
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Turn 117

Overall
Yikes. Let this be known as "The Turn of Aerial Losses".
The USSR makes alot of attacks and form 2 pockets around some of my panzer divisions. The northern pocket was lightly held, so there I could rely on ground units only, but in the south the pocket was held by guard units, and I dared not to gamble, but decided to send in as many ground attack planes as possible. They died in huge numbers, but we reopened the pocket in the end.
The USSR made 36 attacks, scoring 4 helds, 31 retreats and 1 rout, while our 5 attacks gained us 4 retreats and 1 rout.

Losses
USSR : 140.000 troops, 1.766 guns, 862 AFVs, 604 AC.
Axis : 62.000 troops, 1.300 guns, 131 AFVs, 224 AC.
Lost about the same ammount of AC this turn as I have usually lost in 10 turns earlier...

Units lost
The 6th Rumanian Infantry Division shatters. Again, not neccessarily a bad thing at this point.

Pest control
Only one partisan shows up, it is delt with.







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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/27/2012 9:18:30 PM   
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SU 21k tanks wow

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/28/2012 2:12:13 PM   
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quote:

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SU 21k tanks wow


Ah come on, they are all massproduced inferior tanks anyway


Terje

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RE: Gnikam eht ni retsasid - Oloren USSR, Terje Axis, N... - 6/28/2012 2:17:15 PM   
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Turn 118

Overall
And there goes the Southern flank. Operation "Bye Bye Rumania" is goven the ok this turn, and we start to move our German and Hungarian troops north. This will accellerate the USSR advance in the south, that is a given, but rather that than to have useful units trapped in the south. The USSR also trap 3 divisions this turn, we do not even think about relieveing them.
A total of 40 USSR attacks were made, resulting in 1 held, 30 retreats and 9 routs.

Losses
USSR : 92.000 troops, 881 guns, 281 AFVs, 520 AC.
Axis : 56.000 troops, 1.243 guns, 107 AFVs, 93 AC.

Pools
Manpower : 618.126
Vehicles : 290.256
Armaments : 199.500
Hiwi : 1

Pest control
No partisans today. Soon this section will be removed alltogether as we will be in our own territory...







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