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Mouleiman...the gate to Burma? (More AFB) - 2/19/2012 10:06:11 PM   
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AFBs,

My opponent has broken into Burma (9/42), yet I still hold Rangoon. Is the only efficient way he can supply his forces on his push to India (I still hold the jungles just before the border with India) is through Moulieman?

He keeps running convoys to dock/unload there, thus does my bombing of the Port at said gateway hamper his efforts to resupply his Burmese Liberation Army? He is putting up lots of Oscars over the Port so is it safe to assume he's trying to prevent me from destroying the port?

Ideas? Observations?
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RE: Mouleiman...the gate to Burma? (More AFB) - 2/19/2012 10:22:01 PM   
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Speaking as a JFB I have never had to ship supply to Moulmein. It will move over the trails from Thailand.

It may be that he is shipping in troops though, since that could be quicker than marching over from Rahaeng.

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RE: Mouleiman...the gate to Burma? (More AFB) - 2/20/2012 5:43:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

Speaking as a JFB I have never had to ship supply to Moulmein. It will move over the trails from Thailand.

It may be that he is shipping in troops though, since that could be quicker than marching over from Rahaeng.



Although in truth it is probably safer to ship the troops to Tavoy and move them up the rail line from their...farther for any Allied bombers to fly to attack the transport task force.

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RE: Mouleiman...the gate to Burma? (More AFB) - 2/20/2012 9:57:10 PM   
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I successfully held the river line at Moulmein until about July/August (iirc) in my current PBEM. Using the RN, I was able to keep the sea lanes closed to Moulmein for most of that. The line finally fell when I lose sea contention near Rangoon, stopping my supply runs and starting the Japanese flow into the moulmein port. This coincided with a few days of losing air battles over Rangoon and Moulmein against IJ(N)AF.

The strategy simply started as an effort to keep the Burma open for a while, then escalated into a fully viable defense. Had I put more effort into building up the defenses earlier, I might have held out through '42 assuming the RN would have held out.

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RE: Mouleiman...the gate to Burma? (More AFB) - 2/20/2012 10:48:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: aphrochine

I successfully held the river line at Moulmein until about July/August (iirc) in my current PBEM. Using the RN, I was able to keep the sea lanes closed to Moulmein for most of that. The line finally fell when I lose sea contention near Rangoon, stopping my supply runs and starting the Japanese flow into the moulmein port. This coincided with a few days of losing air battles over Rangoon and Moulmein against IJ(N)AF.

The strategy simply started as an effort to keep the Burma open for a while, then escalated into a fully viable defense. Had I put more effort into building up the defenses earlier, I might have held out through '42 assuming the RN would have held out.


I have to ask though, did your opponent commit Kido Butai to drive off the RN vessels guarding the area around Rangoon/Moulmein? While the IJN land based air can be simply devastating, sometime you just need to use carriers for power projection.

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RE: Mouleiman...the gate to Burma? (More AFB) - 2/21/2012 5:42:22 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: aphrochine

I successfully held the river line at Moulmein until about July/August (iirc) in my current PBEM. Using the RN, I was able to keep the sea lanes closed to Moulmein for most of that. The line finally fell when I lose sea contention near Rangoon, stopping my supply runs and starting the Japanese flow into the moulmein port. This coincided with a few days of losing air battles over Rangoon and Moulmein against IJ(N)AF.

The strategy simply started as an effort to keep the Burma open for a while, then escalated into a fully viable defense. Had I put more effort into building up the defenses earlier, I might have held out through '42 assuming the RN would have held out.


I have to ask though, did your opponent commit Kido Butai to drive off the RN vessels guarding the area around Rangoon/Moulmein? While the IJN land based air can be simply devastating, sometime you just need to use carriers for power projection.


No, the KB was dedicated to the prolonged, and ultimately failed, invasion of New Caledonia for most of the year.

There was plenty of CV combat as the RN flattops exchanged with a variant of the mini-KB on 3 seperate occasions. Surface actions were frequently and I lost 2 RN BB's, one in a duel with the Yamato of the coast of Chittagong (the Yamato also paid a heavy price).

To your point, had the KB taken to the Indian Ocean my Burma defense would not have been so effective. However, knowing the commitment of the KB to SoPac I was able to make a stand. To my point, had defending at Moulmein been the plan from the onset I think it's remotely possible to hold on there even with the KB poking in.

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RE: Mouleiman...the gate to Burma? (More AFB) - 2/21/2012 10:41:23 PM   
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Makes you wonder what he could have accomplished if he'd abandoned the idea of taking New Caledonia and instead tried to push deeper into Burma.

From my point of view Burma (as bad as it is to fight there) is the better choice as it forces the Allies to start with their 4Es out of range of the DEI. You can all but stop at the Indian border, but making the Allies retake all of Burma before getting their 4Es into escorted range of Malaya and the DEI is the better choice.

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RE: Mouleiman...the gate to Burma? (More AFB) - 2/21/2012 11:16:26 PM   
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Which is why you fight for (seemingly) irrelevant locations.

The KB cant be everywhere so you make the JFB's have to make a choice, New Cal or Burma??

He either commits to one and makes the other thrust weaker, or splits KB and dices with its defaeat in penny packets.

Often JFB fail in this time period where the steamroller has run out of gas and a well played AFB game can stretch them (Just like IRL)

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