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Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 1:40:58 PM   
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Surely I can't be the only person in the world who has just discovered this game and who would like to read more discussion about it? Didn't Legends bring in any new people?

Or are all Matrix Games forums pretty low volume compared to other game discussion boards?

It seems like 90% of the people frequenting this board are old-time players who don't have much new to talk about...is that about the size of it?


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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 4:58:41 PM   
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The game isn't being pushed through the more main stream distribution routes like Steam. I haven't seen Legends in a retail store either.

The publishers need to get an Ultimate Edition out into the mainstream once the extra content has finished being added with the Legends patches (and the bugs squashed).

Has anyone seen a PC Gamer review of Legends? An ultimate edition distributed in shops might get one.

I think the release of an "ultimate edition" and a publicity push would bring in the numbers of people you mention.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 6:53:00 PM   
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Matrix games is a pretty small distributor think they only sell online.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 7:30:25 PM   
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Good points. Still, Minecraft is a pretty huge hit without any distributor at all, isn't it?

I think we need some of these 120 lurkers to pipe up occasionally. Yes, I mean you!

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 8:18:28 PM   
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Coz everybody dead.
Everybady dead.


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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 9:03:15 PM   
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Also, everyone's busy playing the game instead of talking about it.   




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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 9:38:21 PM   
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Not sure about an ultimate edition, I personally was hoping for one final expansion before that

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 9:48:24 PM   
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Ultimate edition sounds intriguing. Though, I would hope that we get more mod support before that happens.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 9:54:53 PM   
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quote:

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Not sure about an ultimate edition, I personally was hoping for one final expansion before that


Yes and Erik hinted at that.

I think the game could continue to build with this game engine for many more expansions and I would happily pay.

I suspect Elliot would want to make a fully 3D DistantWorlds in the future so the game could reach a bigger audience.


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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/19/2012 11:50:05 PM   
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Ugh, bigger audience has rarely been a good thing for the quality of a game series in my experience. The more people you have to please, the more washed out you have to make it. Still, I wouldn't really mind an update to the graphics engine, if only for improved performance. There's the matter of how much effort to put into it though, seeing as every hour spent creating and debugging a new engine is an hour lost making additional features or bug fixes which would make the actual gameplay even better.

Steam accessibility would no doubt get them customers that like the genre but aren't currently aware of the game though, but that's probably up to Matrix Games's policy and agreements. And yeah, they definitely need to make an ultimate edition thing. With every expansion you're bound to get less and less customers since it requires the original game and expansions first. Not to mention that the game's expensive and doesn't even have a demo; not a good combination.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/20/2012 4:33:33 AM   
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not dead, i check these boards a few times a day, but if i don't have anything important/helpful to say i usually don't bother posting

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/20/2012 4:56:43 AM   
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It's quiet.

Too quiet.

Speaking of dead, though...I have played many campaigns now and have been consistantly winning. I like to play on a small map with scarce habitable planets since I didnt want to overwhelm myself in detail... I mastered the art of colonizing, moving my fleets around, dealing with pirates....and could usually subdue my nastier neighbours and eke out a win.

So I decided to move up to the large map. Being cocky, I picked a ring galaxy with me in the middle. Started game as the humans (as usual). Everyone starting out. 400 worlds, scarce habitable, scarce aliens. Usual max pirates.

After 3 days of playing (about 24 hours of game time) I own about 10 colonies....3 of them used to be homeworlds for races who foolishly declared war on me...

Then I ran into *THEM*. For those who know..you know..for those you don't you don't want to know. Trust me...they are not nice.
My 6 fleets with almost max fighters tech, almost maxed shields and armour....were no match....but with a gift of ships I thought all was not lost.....
Until they started blowing up planets.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/20/2012 3:10:46 PM   
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Let this be a warning to future generations....They came, They saw, they blew me up real good.


My sincerest condolences to your former Empire LiquidSky.






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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/20/2012 4:54:53 PM   
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Until they started blowing up planets.


Now you know why I do the Star Wars thing. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant, next to the power of the force....



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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/20/2012 8:17:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Morelyn

Surely I can't be the only person in the world who has just discovered this game and who would like to read more discussion about it? Didn't Legends bring in any new people?

Or are all Matrix Games forums pretty low volume compared to other game discussion boards?

It seems like 90% of the people frequenting this board are old-time players who don't have much new to talk about...is that about the size of it?



Personally, I think it is because everyone is waiting for the other shoe to drop... until a completed, relatively bug-free patch is released, things are gonna be slow. Just my opinion though.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/20/2012 11:50:11 PM   
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Yeah I'm new and love this game just discovered it aswell, I was wondering why there is not more discussion

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/21/2012 12:43:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: radwyn

Yeah I'm new and love this game just discovered it aswell, I was wondering why there is not more discussion


I do have sympathy for the old-timers, who probably blanche at the notion of yet another "best race" or "favorite weapon" thread.

But I notice that each thread seems to garner hundreds of hits, so I'm wondering who these lurking legions are, and why they don't speak up more often...

(Pssst....hey radwyn, what's your favorite race? )


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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/21/2012 5:29:23 AM   
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Minecraft is a travesty written in java... The worst language for apps since vba.
Play dwarf fortress for gods sakes.

Woops wrong forum.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/21/2012 7:57:09 AM   
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Maybe because of other great games? For example Skyrim, BF3 etc.?

It is looks that you are right - only very low number of new players come here.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/21/2012 11:30:55 AM   
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I've been playing since about 4 months after ROTS, I don't post often but check this forum pretty much every day in hopes of a new update.

TBH if they released an ultimate edition through the more main stream channels, I think a majority of people would give it bad reviews, because alot of the reviews see nowdays like PC GAMER, ACTIONTRIP, IGN, etc. are so shallow + materialistic, they want to see flashy things straight away and do not pay much attention to content. I always play 1400 15x15 or just 1400 in ROTS with all 19 races and i've won atleast 10 or 11 games (there's been plenty more where i've been demolished!) and I'll happily say this is the best space 4x since moo2.

PS. I think minecraft is a good game fairly well implemented, but actually a great idea. They've created a free FPS called Ace of Spades (google it) that tries to mix minecraft and shooting, which is quite fun for 10 minutes.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/21/2012 11:57:11 AM   
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I've played Skyrim, I wasn't impressed. A drab, flavorless addition to the series, if you ask me.

And yes Minecraft was a great idea, I find it great fun. Dwarf fortress is a great game too, btw.

Not to be an "effete intellectual snob" (God, dating myself), but DW is probably too cerebral to ever have a huge audience. Not everyone finds watching hundreds of tiny geometrical shapes waltzing across their screen enthralling.

I may just start a "favorite race" thread anyway...



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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/21/2012 4:38:16 PM   
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Well... Not to be "that guy", but I think the forums are a bit dead because of linear research, completely random level of challenge, which is totally dependent on available resources, encounters with other races and when/if "they" show up. Tactics aren't very deep, and the choices are really that many or exciting.

Once I started seeing the same stuff over and over, and doing the same thing over and over, I lost interest.
DW is an ambitious game, and a good one in many ways, but it's suprisingly easy to get bored with it.
I'm obviously not speaking for everyone, but I think the game, when played for a while, is a bit dead.

I know that comes off really negative, but the potential of DW is not near to being realised. Lack of support for mods is just the most glaring example of how to lose active community members.

A final note to new players, though: If you are interested in the genre and/or settingm do check it out. It is worth the price tag. The game definitely deserves more than a casual look. It is pretty unique with it's ai driven gameplay and epic scale.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/22/2012 2:00:06 AM   
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Yep. What this guy wrote.
Its boring.  For me at last.
I just can feel it and I cant become interested in game.
It lacks something and not very good UI and  lack of events and large scale automatyzation make it boring.For me at last.
Meh.


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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/22/2012 3:28:54 AM   
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quote:

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It's quiet.

Too quiet.

Speaking of dead, though...I have played many campaigns now and have been consistantly winning. I like to play on a small map with scarce habitable planets since I didnt want to overwhelm myself in detail... I mastered the art of colonizing, moving my fleets around, dealing with pirates....and could usually subdue my nastier neighbours and eke out a win.

So I decided to move up to the large map. Being cocky, I picked a ring galaxy with me in the middle. Started game as the humans (as usual). Everyone starting out. 400 worlds, scarce habitable, scarce aliens. Usual max pirates.

After 3 days of playing (about 24 hours of game time) I own about 10 colonies....3 of them used to be homeworlds for races who foolishly declared war on me...

Then I ran into *THEM*. For those who know..you know..for those you don't you don't want to know. Trust me...they are not nice.
My 6 fleets with almost max fighters tech, almost maxed shields and armour....were no match....but with a gift of ships I thought all was not lost.....
Until they started blowing up planets.

GAME OVER

Let this be a warning to future generations....They came, They saw, they blew me up real good.



Anything like this (First time I've seen it, and I've played a lot)? :








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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/22/2012 4:10:49 AM   
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Actually, no..I had several carrier fleets, of which half of them could take out one his 15 ship fleets. It was the mobile AT&T symbols that did me in when I lost most of my worlds in 15 minutes.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/22/2012 5:21:47 AM   
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I've just been busy doing other things lately, playing SW:TOR, Playing WiTP:AE, Working 2 jobs...you know, the usual.

Planning on getting some quality DW time in, but things need to calm down (or the new needs to wear off my other games) first.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/22/2012 11:56:06 AM   
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I've just been busy doing other things lately, playing SW:TOR, Playing WiTP:AE, Working 2 jobs...you know, the usual.

Planning on getting some quality DW time in, but things need to calm down (or the new needs to wear off my other games) first.

Same here. The reason I don't play DW more is because I simply don't have the quality time to do so. There is no such thing as a "let's play a quick DW game". If you're in your teens or 20's you're fine but if you're the general working joe (like me) then finding 1 or 2 time-spots to play DW a week is a good week. But these games quality aren't measured by the number of hours you play but by the number of quality hours you extract from them.


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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/22/2012 3:12:27 PM   
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The main reason I'm not around so much is because I've began scale model building almost a year ago now, but the hobby has escalated and taken more of my free time away.

If it weren't for that, the Picard era Star Trek mod would've been released by now.

I still check the forums every day, but only really for posts related to modding, and to see what my mates Ed, TJ, and Data are up to.

I work on the Picard mod a couple of times a week, and thankfully, it's almost there. I just haven't been able to find the time to make preview pics for it.

I play the game for *scratches head* a couple of hours a month, if that. Still love the game, just feel that time spent playing is time away from modding and modeling!

Well, I've rambled long enough. Back to work....

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/22/2012 4:02:35 PM   
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Count me in as one of those that think DW is the best space 4X since MOO2... but I don't play it anymore. I check about weekly for an update, especially for the ship/fleet controls. The eXpore, eXpand and eXploit opportunities are very good, however the problem starts when you try to eXtinguish with ships/fleets that have their own opinions on how they should be spending their time. Unfortunately this is after a heavy investment of time in the first three Xs.
Here's something radical - I would even prefer an optional MOO2 turn-by-turn tactical battle map rather this RT chaos. At least I would be able to see what my cleverly designed ships are doing with all their fancy weapons and shields.

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RE: Why are these boards so dead? - 2/22/2012 11:49:03 PM   
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I play the game af often as I am able to. I have always loved pc strategy gaming and have been a true gamer since my childhood years... Distant worlds is my most favorite strategy game. It has that charm and character that nowadays, so many big budget games lack. Visit the forum quite often but usually to check on the latest patch progress/update. Work and family takes too much of my time so allocating from 5 to 10 hours to gaming per week is the best I can do.

I don't know about any of you guys but I find that so frustrating. I have to carefully choose my games since I can't afford to waste any of that precious time of mine. I gave up Skyrim in order to play Legends. Having invested well over 50 hours on it I stopped playing without completing the main storyline and moved to Legends. That, most certainly, states something about Skyrim ...... and DW. The only game that I am truly looking forward to right now is ME3. Space has always fascinated me to a rather great extent and sooner or later, any decent 'space' game is going to get my attention... as long as it isn't a first person shooter.

Personally, at this point, I am not at all interested in DW2 3d. All I care about and look forward to is some truly challenging AI, expanded Diplomacy (various galactic senate options, more trading options), better performance, etc. A brand new expansion or an uber patch of some sort to address this issues.

DW has come a long way since the original back in 2010 and I am very happy with the direction that the game is heading to and it is definitely not boring. Not if you'r playing bugs....

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