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STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/8/2012 10:44:39 PM   
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Steiner was/is THE ultimate soldier. He is also a funny, brilliant man.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/8/2012 11:30:20 PM   
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Did Steiner exist? Isn't he just a myth? A fable used to tell the children? Like elves and trolls. Like Santa Claus.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/8/2012 11:34:08 PM   
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I think Steiner is Germany's answer to the US John Rambo.

If Steiner had fought in WWII then the Russians would be speaking german, just as in Vietnam the offical language would be american.

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Did Steiner exist? Isn't he just a myth? A fable used to tell the children? Like elves and trolls.


Orm you have hit the nail on the head.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/8/2012 11:44:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

Did Steiner exist? Isn't he just a myth? A fable used to tell the children? Like elves and trolls. Like Santa Claus.


Nein. I am very real. A troll maybe>

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I think Steiner is Germany's answer to the US John Rambo.


british exil, Steiner surpasses Rambo by universes.


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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/8/2012 11:52:30 PM   
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I think Steiner is Germany's answer to the US John Rambo.


british exil, Steiner surpasses Rambo by universes.



Not quite sure. I mean Rambo was so mean and struck fear into his enemies, his deeds of valour so many to mention, that they had to fit his life story into 4 films, whereas Steiner's life story fits into 2!!

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/8/2012 11:59:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: parusski

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There must have been tens of thousands of "Steiners." In that sense, it's not so much who he was, but what he represents, that brilliant tense presence embarrassed by restraint, a veritable tower of rightness, audacity and ease of inspiration. And I think that's why so much of what his character had to say in the movie leaves the rest of us feeling empty, evasive and inarticulate. In other words, he may not always have drunk beer, but when he did, he drank...





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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 12:04:24 AM   
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There must have been tens of thousands of "Steiners." In that sense, it's not so much who he was, but what he represents, that brilliant tense presence embarrassed by restraint, a veritable tower of rightness, audacity and ease of inspiration. And I think that's why so much of what his character had to say in the movie leaves the rest of us feeling empty, evasive and inarticulate. In other words, he may not always have drunk beer, but when he did, he drank...






Outstanding Prince. I think Steiner represents most soldiers throughout history. They do not love war, don't particularly like officers but are ferocious fighters.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 5:31:46 AM   
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t34s they used t34s I love those guys not using some ridiculous mock up

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 9:51:11 AM   
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Did anyone here read the book?

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 11:20:25 AM   
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Did anyone here read the book?


I read the book and enjoyed it. But it is not a fantastic book. At times an editor was sorely needed.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 7:36:12 PM   
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I think Steiner is Germany's answer to the US John Rambo.

One small tiny difference. Steiner was a bleeding NAZI!

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 7:50:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Did anyone here read the book?


I read the book and enjoyed it. But it is not a fantastic book. At times an editor was sorely needed.
Warspite1

Yes I read the book, bought it from Amazon:

STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND (Ambrose, 1991) T.WAT Publishing Co.

I thought Ambroses' book was right on the money. Ambrose argues forcefully that Steiner's excellent combat record was purely down to bouts of severe violence caused by a long standing peanut brittle addiction, that took hold of the young Steiner in the 1920's. At the age of ten the young German was partially eaten by a Gruffalo - "What's a Gruffalo?" I hear you ask. "A Gruffalo. Why don't you know? [Er no, lets not go down that path] while walking through the deep dark Bavarian wood.

Although he survived the ordeal, he was forever thereafter addicted to the peanut brittle that was administered as pain relief. The brittle addiction became worse as the years wore on, and by the time he was marching into Poland in September 1939 he was well and truly on the Brazilian.

Having survived the war, Steiner moved to Wyoming where he has been able to live a normal Wyoming peanut farmers life; marrying his sister in 1949, he fathered three daughter (who grew one tooth between them).

The BPB habit never left him though and this addiction caused Steiner's brain to shrink. In his frail dotage, indignity was visited upon this sad ex-soldier; in 2005 he took a liking to American Football, and was promptly declared insane. In the last year, now 117, he has been left with little to occupy his days but post banal, childlike comments on a wargaming forum.














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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 8:08:34 PM   
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One small tiny difference. Steiner was a bleeding NAZI


Steiner HATED Nazi's.


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Yes I read the book, bought it from Amazon:

STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND (Ambrose, 1991) T.WAT Publishing Co.

I thought Ambroses' book was right on the money. Ambrose argues forcefully that Steiner's excellent combat record was purely down to bouts of severe violence caused by a long standing peanut brittle addiction, that took hold of the young Steiner in the 1920's. At the age of ten the young German was partially eaten by a Gruffalo - "What's a Gruffalo?" I hear you ask. "A Gruffalo. Why don't you know? [Er no, lets not go down that path] while walking through the deep dark Bavarian wood.

Although he survived the ordeal, he was forever thereafter addicted to the peanut brittle that was administered as pain relief. The brittle addiction became worse as the years wore on, and by the time he was marching into Poland in September 1939 he was well and truly on the Brazilian.

Having survived the war, Steiner moved to Wyoming where he has been able to live a normal Wyoming peanut farmers life; marrying his sister in 1949, he fathered three daughter (who grew one tooth between them).

The BPB habit never left him though and this addiction caused Steiner's brain to shrink. In his frail dotage, indignity was visited upon this sad ex-soldier; in 2005 he took a liking to American Football, and was promptly declared insane. In the last year, now 117, he has been left with little to occupy his days but post banal, childlike comments on a wargaming forum.


Where to begin. I love books from T.WAT publishers. Especially their KSMEYEASS line.

Steiner may have encounter some issues due to BPB in 2005. But in November 2011 he was administered massive doses of CPB and his brain expanded to twice that of a normal British footballer prancing around in shorts tossing his long, flowing hair. UUUHH, where were we. In 1986 Steiner married a lovely woman from South Africa(here as a foreign exchange student) and fathered 3 more children. All are brilliant, after their dad, and all entered the IT field(also following dad's 9th career).



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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 10:45:36 PM   
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Coincidently I watched Decision before Dawn yesterday. The protagonists name in that was Cpl Steiner as well. Karl Steiner. Maybe it was his brother cause they both hated NAZI's.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/9/2012 11:03:07 PM   
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Coincidently I watched Decision before Dawn yesterday. The protagonists name in that was Cpl Steiner as well. Karl Steiner. Maybe it was his brother cause they both hated NAZI's.


Karl was one of Steiner's brothers. The other brother was Ricky Bobby Steiner. RB Steiner worked in Talladega Florida until his death in 2006.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 4:15:27 AM   
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Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 6:53:21 AM   
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Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?
Warspite1

Duh, get with the program K G Erwin - his name is actually Steiner, and yes, he's on Brazilian Peanut Brittle (see post 12).


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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 1:19:57 PM   
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Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?


Prescribed by the UK minister of PB. Self-administered 24 times a day.

Duh, get with the program K G Erwin - his name is actually Steiner, and yes, he's on Brazilian Peanut Brittle (see post 12).

Double 'du'tch bus.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 7:24:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?


Duh, get with the program K G Erwin - his name is actually Steiner, and yes, he's on Brazilian Peanut Brittle (see post 12).

Double 'du'tch bus.
Warspite1

What does that mean Steiner?

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 7:56:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?


Duh, get with the program K G Erwin - his name is actually Steiner, and yes, he's on Brazilian Peanut Brittle (see post 12).

Double 'du'tch bus.
Warspite1

What does that mean Steiner?


Well it's a play on words. I was saying DUH to K G Erwin. Then an absolutely horrible, but fun, song from the 80's popped(or pooped) into my mind, watch and enjoy:

Double Dutch Bus VIdeo


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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 8:34:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?


Duh, get with the program K G Erwin - his name is actually Steiner, and yes, he's on Brazilian Peanut Brittle (see post 12).

Double 'du'tch bus.
Warspite1

What does that mean Steiner?


Well it's a play on words. I was saying DUH to K G Erwin. Then an absolutely horrible, but fun, song from the 80's popped(or pooped) into my mind, watch and enjoy:

Double Dutch Bus VIdeo

Warspite1

Right you are corporal.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 8:42:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: parusski


quote:

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?


Duh, get with the program K G Erwin - his name is actually Steiner, and yes, he's on Brazilian Peanut Brittle (see post 12).

Double 'du'tch bus.
Warspite1

What does that mean Steiner?


Well it's a play on words. I was saying DUH to K G Erwin. Then an absolutely horrible, but fun, song from the 80's popped(or pooped) into my mind, watch and enjoy:

Double Dutch Bus VIdeo

Warspite1

Right you are corporal.


So did you watch and love Double Dutch Bus?????

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 8:48:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?


Duh, get with the program K G Erwin - his name is actually Steiner, and yes, he's on Brazilian Peanut Brittle (see post 12).

Double 'du'tch bus.
Warspite1

What does that mean Steiner?


Well it's a play on words. I was saying DUH to K G Erwin. Then an absolutely horrible, but fun, song from the 80's popped(or pooped) into my mind, watch and enjoy:

Double Dutch Bus VIdeo

Warspite1

Right you are corporal.


So did you watch and love Double Dutch Bus?????
Warspite1

Not yet, I'm watching Coronation Street.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/10/2012 8:52:31 PM   
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Not yet, I'm watching Coronation Street.


I love Coronation Street.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/11/2012 12:59:57 AM   
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We're taling about officer Kurt Steiner? Michael Caine?
{Actually, they do look a bit similar.}

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/11/2012 1:04:28 AM   
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We're taling about officer Kurt Steiner? Michael Caine?
{Actually, they do look a bit similar.}


quote:

Kurt Steiner


NEIN. Rolf Steiner, great soldier and brilliant man from Cross of Iron, played by James Coburn.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/11/2012 4:16:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: parusski


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Parusski, I must ask, are you on medication, and is it prescribed or self-administered?


Duh, get with the program K G Erwin - his name is actually Steiner, and yes, he's on Brazilian Peanut Brittle (see post 12).

Double 'du'tch bus.
Warspite1

What does that mean Steiner?


Well it's a play on words. I was saying DUH to K G Erwin. Then an absolutely horrible, but fun, song from the 80's popped(or pooped) into my mind, watch and enjoy:

Double Dutch Bus VIdeo

Warspite1

Right you are corporal.


So did you watch and love Double Dutch Bus?????
Warspite1

Yes I did. The opening lines of the song sound just like Word Up by Cameo.

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/12/2012 10:40:28 PM   
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Here is a video of my block party from yesterday.

Steiner(parusski) back yard party

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/12/2012 10:46:26 PM   
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Here is a video of my block party from yesterday.

Steiner(parusski) back yard party
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Er thank-you for sharing. I had nothing really to say in response other than by posting I have my name on the first six threads

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RE: STEINER: MAN, MYTH, GENIUS, LEGEND! - 2/12/2012 10:48:03 PM   
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Here is a video of my block party from yesterday.

Steiner(parusski) back yard party
Warspite1

Er thank-you for sharing. I had nothing really to say in response other than by posting I have my name on the first six threads


You did not like that video of young Rolf Steiner XII?

And did u think I would let your name stay there???


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