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TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 10:34:54 AM   
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Will a surface TF react if it is set to follow another TF which is set to remain on station?
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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 11:48:39 AM   
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Yes, but by doing so it will reset to retirement allowed, which could pose a problem
in case you don´t want it to leave the followed TF behind and head home.

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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 1:26:01 PM   
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I believe it will only react if it is set to Retirement Allowed.

I have Surface Combat TFs follow Carrier TFs routinely.

I set the SAGs to Retirement Allowed so they will react while the CAGs get set to Remain on Station.

Of course the SAGs will return to base following any reaction leaving the CAGs on thier own.

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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 1:35:40 PM   
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quote:

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I believe it will only react if it is set to Retirement Allowed.


+1

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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 1:47:35 PM   
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I believe it will only react if it is set to Retirement Allowed.


+1


I don´t think so.

Don Bowen said it reacts and then changes to retirement allowed in a similar thread in the war room recently.



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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 2:26:02 PM   
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Well, I'm not an expert, but I restart my game few times, and when I invade Aparri with escort Tf setting 'remain
on station', a couple of allied DD bypass my escort and attack my troop trasport again and again, then my escort intervene;
when I set my escort TF with 'retirement allowed', my TF meet the target first and the troop transport are safe.
this is my experience in game.


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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 3:26:50 PM   
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You should not use Remain on Station. It orders a TF to stay put.

If you want a Tf to cover landings, give it a patrol zone (either one point at the landing site or two-three points around the site) and set it to react. Smaller react is better in this case.

Remain on Station used to mean patrol in WITP but it no longers works that way in AE. AE has hex-by-hex movement and the ability to set specific patrol zones.

Reaction will override all other orders (remain on station, follow, patrol, waypoints). Except for remain on station, the TF will react and then resume it's follow/patrol/waypoints. Reaction, of course, is only to detected enemy TFs. Some recon is always a good idea.

Always consider the main mission of a TF. Setting reaction for a TF with a covering mission can be very bad, as it could react away from the TF it is supposed to protect.

Lots of functions and options - takes a while to learn to use them all. For a surface TF that is supposed to cover a landing:

1. Surface TF should be ordered to move to the landing site, with a patrol zone that includes the landing site. You could also use remain on station without reaction.
2. Set the amphib TF to follow the surface TF at range 0.
3. Depending on conditions, you could then allow the amphib TF to retire independently or change the orders of the two TFs to have them withdraw together.



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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 11:15:52 PM   
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I believe it will only react if it is set to Retirement Allowed.

I have Surface Combat TFs follow Carrier TFs routinely ...


I did that in UV, but in bad wx, an enemy surface fleet can engage your CVs with the escorting surface fleet left out of the action, so now my CVs follow the surface ships.

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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/8/2012 11:24:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

I believe it will only react if it is set to Retirement Allowed.

I have Surface Combat TFs follow Carrier TFs routinely ...


I did that in UV, but in bad wx, an enemy surface fleet can engage your CVs with the escorting surface fleet left out of the action, so now my CVs follow the surface ships.



however, with your CVs following a surface TF set to react your surface TF is gonna drag your CVs into a surface fight

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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/9/2012 1:06:04 AM   
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I have a question on follow TF, does the game process the movement sequentially on entering a new hex, or will they enter together? I have used Follow to have an ASW force follow my transports (having the escorts in the Transport fleet sometimes pushes them over the limit where they can dock at a small port), but after reading the above, would it be better to have the Transports follow the escorts?

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RE: TF Reaction question - 2/9/2012 12:45:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HansBolter


quote:

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

I believe it will only react if it is set to Retirement Allowed.

I have Surface Combat TFs follow Carrier TFs routinely ...


I did that in UV, but in bad wx, an enemy surface fleet can engage your CVs with the escorting surface fleet left out of the action, so now my CVs follow the surface ships.



however, with your CVs following a surface TF set to react your surface TF is gonna drag your CVs into a surface fight


That hasn't happened -- yet -- and you can always set your CVs to follow at 1 or more hexes away from your surface escort.

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